Are you watching Rupes??

[Nineteen Canteen]

You already know my views on this but, in short, Lowe started the snow ball effect. He has not learnt from past mistakes and would not have done so even if he was here for the whole time. His management merry-go-round would have continued as history, and present day tells us. Yes granted Wilde should not have ******ed £7 million up the wall. Crouch however i feel a little less blame for.

 

Mike, Crouch maybe less to blame as he was probably taken in as much as the rest of us. However, my understanding is until the eleventh hour he backed Lowe until he switched forcing Lowe to resign. Crouch and Lowe in hindsight even as recently as the past few months could have saved this club IMO. the balance of good and necessary evil if you like. IMO Crouch on his own was too soft and to concerned about fans' perceptions.

 

Lowe was responsible mostly for the relegation but I think his initial prudence has in hindsight been proven to be a wise approach and whilst he may have made further mistakes if he had been here without a break i don't think they would have been quite so catastrohpic as what has happened this season. I couldn't critiscise anyone in trying to make the best of this season and putting on a positive spin. Survival without support from day 1 was bigger odds than last weeks Grand National winner.

[stthrobber]

I agree with your theory but a very tough decision to make by the club given the circumstances and I wouldn't have liked to call it knowing what was at stake. What do you think, putting yourself in their shoes for a moment? (I accept and understand you would have liked to have seen lower prices)

 

Firstly I would have reopened the avenues of communication between club and fans/fans groups that disappeared when Lowe resigned last time.

 

It's seems a tried and tested method in retail that if the product is not selling, then reduce the price and instigate a sale.

 

I appreciate Lowe was between a rock and a hard place whereas during his last tenure, he was criticised for being too public, and on his return, he was quite the opposite. When you read the articles on the OS there was scant mention of our woes.

 

I also appreciate that many fans wouldn't walk across the road to piddle on Lowe if he was on fire, but someone has to speak to the fans to get their views.

 

It's just my opinion, but in not speaking to the fans, on their return, many felt cut adrift from the club and found alternatives to their Saturday routines.

 

I did recently speak to someone from corporate sales and suggest that they reduce the price of corporate tickets, even suggesting they sell a two tier system because those of us that don't drink alcohol feel that £100 for the Mike Channon Suite is a very high price, whereas a former senior manager now at another Championship club was only too happy to do a deal to get the bums on seats when Saints were away. We paid £50 each for a 3 course meal with match ticket etc.

 

I know that the response from a lot of fans to the question "what can we do for you" would be "get Lowe out" but to others like me, constructive suggestions as to how to improve gates would have been given. Likewise, I wouldn't be prepared to pay £2.50 for a pasty in the concourse because it would be less than half of that from a shop.

 

I can't blame Lowe for the irresponsible "speculate to accumulate" manner with which Burley, Hone and Dulieu etc saddled our club with over priced players like Wayne Thomas on inflated wages and who hasn't made a contribution this season, but I can say that the Dutch experiment was too risky at its inception and when Lowe got together with Wilde, Pearson had no chance of staying on.

 

This season could have been done differently with different results even if it has been driven by cost cutting.

[um pahars]

Um, I didn't realise until last night who you were

 

Of course dear troll, of course.:smt119:rolleyes::smt119:rolleyes:

 

If you didn't know who I was then how come you mention me in your "first" ever post on this forum??? LMFAO.

 

And then of course there's the PM's you've sent, along with knowing who I was a week or so into your "first" posts on this board by mentioning me by name;)

 

If you're going to come up with a cover story, then you at least have to be consistent.

 

Not the best troll on this board, but perhaps the funniest8-[

[Window Cleaner]

 

Not the best troll on this board, but perhaps the funniest8-[

 

 

Not a patch on Scooby or Tommac. Those were trolls with a capital T.

[um pahars]

Not a patch on Scooby or Tommac. Those were trolls with a capital T.

 

Scooby was a mentalist with a comic twist (was it really performance art???).

 

Tommac was actually serious (which is really scary as he was sniffing around the Club at some point).

 

Whereas Sundance, Flashman, Third Bear, Nineteen Canteen is just a classic WUM (and not the brightest either as his cover story is never consistent LOL).

 

There was another good troll on here, but I've forgotten his name, will have to rack my brains for it.

[70's Mike]

Many of us know each other on here even if we use forum names does anyone admit to knowing Nineteen and co.

It will be interesting to see how many still post on here next season when the reason for their posting, ie support of rupert, is finally , god willing, GONE for good

[Tamesaint]

Well then maybe you shouldn't have come on here under your new guise of Nineteen Canteen and begin by defaming others on here with lies, false accusations and allegations that had to be removed.:smt119:rolleyes:

 

It's all very well coming on here today in your new guise of the "respectable" Nineteen Canteen Mk VI, but sadly the legacy of your posts, wind ups, antagonism, rude and insulting PM's can't be consigned to history just because of your latest "24 hour" persona (in fact you can't even help yourself from your digs under this new persona).:cool:

 

Keep up the good work though as you are an interesting character;)

 

I reckon the new respectable 19 Canteen came about because some idiot yesterday posted on here hoping that 19 died soon. It has probably made him consider his own mortality & he wants to redress his reputation just in case the Grim Reaper was to strike!!

[Nineteen Canteen]

Of course dear troll, of course.:smt119:rolleyes::smt119:rolleyes:

 

If you didn't know who I was then how come you mention me in your "first" ever post on this forum??? LMFAO.

 

And then of course there's the PM's you've sent, along with knowing who I was a week or so into your "first" posts on this board by mentioning me by name;)

 

If you're going to come up with a cover story, then you at least have to be consistent.

 

Not the best troll on this board, but perhaps the funniest8-[

 

I seriously had no idea Stephen and to say I was surprised would be an understatement. I'm assuming you haven't been asked to help with Save Our Saints with David, Duncan, Steve and Ron? I may not always agree with them but as fellow Saints fan I certainly respect them but unfortunately you have made yourself into a parody of an important fan and the exception to the rule. You tried Stephen and failed and whilst there is nothing wrong in that the way in which you now choose to conduct yourself renders your posts the bleatings of a bitter and twisted indiviudal with little support despite towing a populist line. Sad really.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Many of us know each other on here even if we use forum names does anyone admit to knowing Nineteen and co.

It will be interesting to see how many still post on here next season when the reason for their posting, ie support of rupert, is finally , god willing, GONE for good

 

Mike I won't go and hopefully next season we can enjoy some common ground if supporting the same club isn't already enough.

[um pahars]

I seriously had no idea Stephen and to say I was surprised would be an understatement. I'm assuming you haven't been asked to help with Save Our Saints with David, Duncan, Steve and Ron? I may not always agree with them but as fellow Saints fan I certainly respect them but unfortunately you have made yourself into a parody of an important fan and the exception to the rule. You tried Stephen and failed and whilst there is nothing wrong in that the way in which you now choose to conduct yourself renders your posts thted befre bleatings of a bitter and twisted indiviudal with little support despite towing a populist line. Sad really.

 

Oi cheeky, you knew my name three moths ago, you knew it under all your previous guises so why be shy now LMFAO.:smt119:smt119:cool:

 

You're a troll, simple as that.

 

How about this before we even mentoined UM, Daren, Justin Fashanu and the Itchen South incident :smt119:smt1198-[

 

Apparently, back in January you hadn't posted before:smt030:smt117:smt117:---)

 

just someone who finally decided to overcome their aversion to forums

[Nineteen Canteen]

Oi cheeky, you knew my name three moths ago, you knew it under all your previous guises so why be shy now LMFAO.:smt119:smt119:cool:

 

You're a troll, simple as that.

 

How about this before we even mentoined UM, Daren, Justin Fashanu and the Itchen South incident :smt119:smt1198-[

 

Apparently, back in January you hadn't posted before:smt030:smt117:smt117:---)

 

Stephen I just called you by your name as everyone else was calling you Steve. Seems now you are in need of some new friends as you have been left amongst the tumbleweed of the Saints Trust .

 

On a more sincere note what has happened to Doug? Concerned he has stopped posting although he was getting a bit irratic I enjoyed talking with him.

[saintsmike25]

Do you really think playing a long lasting game of blame at Rupert Lowe (which most of it he rightfully deserves) will actually change anything?

 

How about instead of looking back at the past, look ahead into ways of saving this club instead of blame and more blame. Rupert is not involved in the club anymore, and he shouldn't be involved in debate about the club.

[um pahars]

Stephen I just called you by your name as everyone else was calling you Steve.

 

Of course dear Troll, of course.

 

You've been making it up as you've gone along since saying it was your first post on a forum back in January:smt119:rolleyes: Trouble is, you're not bright enough to keep the cover story running and it didn't take long before finding out about your multiple personas.

 

Why have you had so many??? Did you get banned under all the others or does Scooby's performance art thingy have a much wider audience than we all thought???

[Gingeletiss]

I seriously had no idea Stephen and to say I was surprised would be an understatement. I'm assuming you haven't been asked to help with Save Our Saints with David, Duncan, Steve and Ron? I may not always agree with them but as fellow Saints fan I certainly respect them but unfortunately you have made yourself into a parody of an important fan and the exception to the rule. You tried Stephen and failed and whilst there is nothing wrong in that the way in which you now choose to conduct yourself renders your posts the bleatings of a bitter and twisted indiviudal with little support despite towing a populist line. Sad really.

 

Says the most hateful, and spiteful poster on here..........get back under your rock. Listen to what people say about you.....who knows you???....why your hatred of Crouch, as you seem to mention him in every thread..........disappear Troll.

[Viking Warrior]

Can anyone join this debate

 

Who is Doug NC?

 

Who is long shot

 

and who is Help Me Rhonda

 

and Finally who the F*** is Alice?

 

:)

 

PS Im Mike

[Viking Warrior]

Off to the Game Now

 

have fun on the forum this afternoon

 

Come on Saints bring some happiness to the fans and this forum and stuff the

eagles

[JustMike]

Lowe oversaw us getting relegated from the prem, and now he has done it again (albeit aided and abetted by others). I hope to god we have a club to support next year and that Lowe will never darken another doorway at SMS again