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I totally agree with Sir Parky.

 

And according to Private Eye, since she 'started dying', on top of the money raised for her children, the Saintly Max Clifford has trousered at least £200,000.

 

Spare a thought for him also.

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"She was brought up on a sink estate, as a child came to know drugs and crime, was barely educated, ignorant and puerile. Then she was projected to celebrity by Big Brother and became a media chattel to be exploited til the day she died."

 

Agreed that people should express their views freely. I have absolutely no qualns about giving my opinion, and neither should anyone else.

 

Regarding Michael Parkinson's attack on Jade (above), I think he needs to remember his working class roots. What he sees as reasons for her NOT being allowed to be famous would exclude most of the population of this country. If anything, I feel that those parts of her life make her rise to fame all the more admirable.

 

Parky I fear is a class snob.

AND he clearly states that she was expkoited! By who Michale, by who? Your mates mate, that's who,

 

Just like me, before anyone says it

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"She was brought up on a sink estate, as a child came to know drugs and crime, was barely educated, ignorant and puerile. Then she was projected to celebrity by Big Brother and became a media chattel to be exploited til the day she died."

 

Agreed that people should express their views freely. I have absolutely no qualns about giving my opinion, and neither should anyone else.

 

Regarding Michael Parkinson's attack on Jade (above), I think he needs to remember his working class roots. What he sees as reasons for her NOT being allowed to be famous would exclude most of the population of this country. If anything, I feel that those parts of her life make her rise to fame all the more admirable.

 

Parky I fear is a class snob.

AND he clearly states that she was expkoited! By who Michale, by who? Your mates mate, that's who,

 

Just like me, before anyone says it

 

And your point is? She was still a thick bint who took pride in the fact.

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And your point is? She was still a thick bint who took pride in the fact.

 

My point is that the story is just one rich famous celeb slagging off a fellow rich famous celeb, for being a rich famous celeb. It's stupid lazy journalism from a man who should know better.

 

Why would any normal person agree with the man, he is not constructing half as good an argument as people on here do. Emu should have gone for the jugular.

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My point is that the story is just one rich famous celeb slagging off a fellow rich famous celeb, for being a rich famous celeb. It's stupid lazy journalism from a man who should know better.

 

Why would any normal person agree with the man, he is not constructing half as good an argument as people on here do. Emu should have gone for the jugular.

 

I think it's fact that he is a well respected broadcaster the balls to say it in public. This at a time when most of the media is obsessed with 'Saint' Jade.

 

No he hasn't done anything special, but he is spot on IMO. Personally I don't see why anyone who didn't know her gives a sh*t, yet the article states thousands turned up on the streets for her funeral. Sky news even had a 2 hour show covering the event. How sad is your life if you go to/watch her funeral, aside from those that knew her.

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I think it's fact that he is a well respected broadcaster the balls to say it in public. This at a time when most of the media is obsessed with 'Saint' Jade.

 

No he hasn't done anything special, but he is spot on IMO. Personally I don't see why anyone who didn't know her gives a sh*t, yet the article states thousands turned up on the streets for her funeral. Sky news even had a 2 hour show covering the event. How sad is your life if you go to/watch her funeral, aside from those that knew her.

No argument with anything you say there. I am merely pointing out that the sory has absolutely nothing to do with her bckground, she aspired to be. Who doesn't do that?

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No argument with anything you say there. I am merely pointing out that the sory has absolutely nothing to do with her bckground, she aspired to be. Who doesn't do that?

 

I'll agree that her background is largely irrelvant to what she has "achieved" in life. However I cannot agree that she aspired to be anything. She simply saw the chance to make a quick buck from some 2-bit, trashy reality TV show and took it.

 

Yes the media and the retards who watch big brother deserve a lot of the blame for her completely exhausted stay in the spotlight. However, that does not excuse her involvement. She has been a terrible role model for young people accross the country.

 

It's only one step up the moral ladder from organised mafia trading drugs and humans to fund their life styles. She may not be harming anyone, but she has sure as heck p*ssed a lot of people off.

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I'll agree that her background is largely irrelvant to what she has "achieved" in life. However I cannot agree that she aspired to be anything. She simply saw the chance to make a quick buck from some 2-bit, trashy reality TV show and took it.

 

Yes the media and the retards who watch big brother deserve a lot of the blame for her completely exhausted stay in the spotlight. However, that does not excuse her involvement. She has been a terrible role model for young people accross the country.

 

It's only one step up the moral ladder from organised mafia trading drugs and humans to fund their life styles. She may not be harming anyone, but she has sure as heck p*ssed a lot of people off.

 

Largely, sorry but totally irrelevant in my opinion, sorry.

 

And I have to say how well you put your argument, much better than Parky my friend.

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I have to say I am a little suprised Parky said it at all. Let's be honest it's not like he has a reputation for 'grilling' stars on his show or being outspoken about anything. That's why so many celebs. like him, they get an easy ride and publicity when invited on. I mean he must have some of the most non-descript interview techniques ever and I haven't seen anything remotely 'controversial' said or asked by him on the occasions I have bothered to watch. In fact half the reason so many turned up on set sozzled, was because they a) knew they would get away with it and b) because the programme director knew that it would probably liven up what was about to be a very dull conversation.

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Largely, sorry but totally irrelevant in my opinion, sorry.

 

And I have to say how well you put your argument, much better than Parky my friend.

 

Well, the only relevance of her background is that had she been born on a 40 acre country estate, been sent to Harrow (is that an all boys school? Well you get the idea) and got a PHD from Oxford, she probably wouldn't have felt the need to go on some trashy TV show. She'd probably be running a large retail chain or something instead.

 

That's not me being snobbish, I hate snobs a chavs equally.

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Hmm yes, I'm not sure I see it the way Parky does. He talks of a barely educated woman, who grew up in an under privilaged background, and possibly would have stayed there had it not been for Channel 4 and their Big Brother series. He cites that she was all that was paltry and purile in GB. Yet I notice that he doesn't hit out at the broadcasting company. That would be biting the hand that has fed you for so many years. So Channel 4 gets away scot free in his assessment, and Jade Goody is an easy target. Frankly, his statement, perhaps heavily edited, is a result of lazy thinking, or lazy journalism. Yet what Jade Goody was doing was nothing more than taking advantage of an opportunity put in her path, that she was undoubtedly equipped for. Because Channel 4 wanted to put a show out that was paltry and purile. That is the very essence of the Big Brother show.

 

If Jade Goody is to blame for anything, it is that she never looked beyond the bounds of her own programming or social conditioning. Being brought up as she was, her conditioning hemmed her in to be an under-achiever. But even so, she broke out of those bounds, just for a little while. Maybe CH4 are to be congratulated for helping her to do so. Somehow, I don't think so though.

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"She was brought up on a sink estate, as a child came to know drugs and crime, was barely educated, ignorant and puerile. Then she was projected to celebrity by Big Brother and became a media chattel to be exploited til the day she died."

 

Agreed that people should express their views freely. I have absolutely no qualns about giving my opinion, and neither should anyone else.

 

Regarding Michael Parkinson's attack on Jade (above), I think he needs to remember his working class roots. What he sees as reasons for her NOT being allowed to be famous would exclude most of the population of this country. If anything, I feel that those parts of her life make her rise to fame all the more admirable.

 

Parky I fear is a class snob.

AND he clearly states that she was expkoited! By who Michale, by who? Your mates mate, that's who,

 

Just like me, before anyone says it

 

He never said she should not 'be allowed' to be famous, what I presume he was meaning was more a reflection on todays society as a whole, where young people are brought up in areas where drugs are commonplace and people are poorly educated, which in itself is not their fault. As for being exploited by the media, I do not agree with that part, she played the media to her advantage from the point of view of transforming herself to a 'racist outcast' in the eyes of the media, into some sort of media star, unfortunately only because she was dying of cancer. The people who are responsible mainly for making the non entity that she was into someone famous, are the 'great' British public.

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He never said she should not 'be allowed' to be famous, what I presume he was meaning was more a reflection on todays society as a whole, where young people are brought up in areas where drugs are commonplace and people are poorly educated, which in itself is not their fault. As for being exploited by the media, I do not agree with that part, she played the media to her advantage from the point of view of transforming herself to a 'racist outcast' in the eyes of the media, into some sort of media star, unfortunately only because she was dying of cancer. The people who are responsible mainly for making the non entity that she was into someone famous, are the 'great' British public.

 

I cannot argue with you on that summary doublesaint.

 

I do find it somewhat ironic that he sounds like he is jealous of her fame though. What really is his problem? If he wants the limelight that she now leaves behind he is welcome to do a Richard and Judy on some up and coming freeview channel and invite some top notch worthy celebs on like he used to do in his heyday.

Let us not forget the interviews that made Parky famous:

 

George Best - famous for kicking a pigs bladder around, ****ging ex miss worlds and beng an alcoholic (famously on that show). Did George save lives by highlighting the risks of alcoholism? No, he revelled in it and that interview should not have taken place let alone be broadcast. Parky cites Georhe as one of his best mates, yet chose to take the money rather than help him out. A very very sad life story, but Parky took the filthy folding stuff off the back of it.

 

Another top interview that puts Parky 'up there' was with a man who made his name and fortune by shoving his hand up an emu's arse and generally being unhinged in public. Hilarious, genius? I don't think so.

 

 

 

He took the money for those interviews did this "working class lad from Barnsley" (irrelevant detail?) and would most definitely have had her on his show given the opportunity.

 

In 2007 he retired saying "There's so much I want to do that I can't do if I'm restricted by doing 20 TV shows a year. I'd love to spend six months in Australia and three months of the year in New York."

 

Hard life isn't it! easier to enjoy if you are actually alive to enjoy it, which Jade isn't. Nice one Parky how you gonna explain that one when you get interviewed by the big man upstairs?

 

 

Here's a quote from him that makes him a hypocrite in my book.

""All my life I've seen what happens to people when they become famous. It can destroy then and corrode them. .....they sign a pact with the Devil....."

Michael Parkinson

 

Erm, if the cancer don't get you the fame will perhaps.

 

I am sorry but he is entitled to his opinion, but for a man of his priviledge it is distasteful.

 

Rant over, back to my cornflakes.

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LOL.

 

A few weeks ago some of us were saying the same things as Parky, but were branded as insensitive, immoral and accused of metaphorically stamping on her still warm body and ****ing on her grave!

 

Now everyone is agreeing with Parky!

 

Talk about hypocritical!

 

No they aren't Weston.

 

I would wager that Parky would have got paid less for this bile a few weeks ago, so has kept his powder dry to maximise income received for it. Anyone know who his publicist is? He is not quite up there with Max Clifford but he is very good indeed. Well worth his 20%

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LOL.

 

A few weeks ago some of us were saying the same things as Parky, but were branded as insensitive, immoral and accused of metaphorically stamping on her still warm body and ****ing on her grave!

 

Now everyone is agreeing with Parky!

 

Talk about hypocritical!

 

Read back up the thread. Not everyone.

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LOL.

 

A few weeks ago some of us were saying the same things as Parky, but were branded as insensitive, immoral and accused of metaphorically stamping on her still warm body and ****ing on her grave!

 

Now everyone is agreeing with Parky!

 

Talk about hypocritical!

 

It did amuse me a bit. I completely agree with everything Parky said, especially the point (which I tried to make many a time) that she does not deserve the hero/martyr status she's being given.

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Clucking anoys me that she has been shot to messiah type famedom just because she has cancer. The same people who flood facebook with tributes to 'A loving soul' and talk about her as if she were a modern day Mother Teresa are most likely the same morons who were calling for her head after the race incident on celebrity BB. How easily their views were 'purchased' by clever PR work from a man who preys on the weak easy target celebrities.

 

He must have been kicking himself when that bint Kerry Katona fired him as he could have milked the sheet out of her situation. Then along comes Jade and he must have thought he won the lotto with that one!

 

It annoys me that people say she has done so much for the cancer cause. If women chose to ignore the facility which is available to them to get checked up for cancer then more fool them. Allegedly Jade herself ignored this facility and as such paid the price. If she had a little more intelligence then maybe she would have got checked up sooner and something could have been done.

 

My heart goes out to her little boys as they are left without a mother, however I do not agree with the media hype which has sucked in so many 'sheep' surrounding JG.

 

And dont get me started on her pikey of a husband!

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Let us also be thankful that Jade Goody was not born a Scouser as this might have meant televised all night candlelit vigils from Liverpool Cathedral, as legions of 'shellsuits' file past to pay respects.

 

Not to mention national debate about cancellation of football fixtures etc.

 

And yes I agree with Parky.

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It annoys me that people say she has done so much for the cancer cause. If women chose to ignore the facility which is available to them to get checked up for cancer then more fool them. Allegedly Jade herself ignored this facility and as such paid the price. If she had a little more intelligence then maybe she would have got checked up sooner and something could have been done.

 

The ignorance demonstrated in this statement makes me question your 'intelligence', like it or not, her very public plight resulted in a huge increase in women having smear tests which will have saved alot of families the heartache her family are experiencing.

I trust when you reach 50 you will ensure year on year you have your prostate checked.

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You ****.

 

Sorry Ponty but 'are right' should contain 9 stars not 4.

 

It's no different that sleeping around without protection but refusing to get checked for STD's. Cervical cancer is obviously a serious illness and early signs can be spotted meaning it stands a good chance of being prevented with simple measures - like smear tests.

 

If people choose not to get these done thinking 'it wont happen to me' or 'I dont have time to do this' then it's not as if they have done everything possible to prevent this.

 

Its like someone who smokes 20 a day who gets cancer. Give up the fags - stand a better chance of not getting cancer. Take smear tests - stand a better chance of spotting the early signs and preventing cancer.

 

It may sound harsh but Jade chose to ignore having these tests even though she (alledgedly) slept around when she was younger and that only changed when something wasnt right, then she even chose to ignore doctors advice about staying for futher tests after the initial one instead chosing to go onto celeb BB again. Hardly the ideal role model to promote girls to get checked up.

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The ignorance demonstrated in this statement makes me question your 'intelligence', like it or not, her very public plight resulted in a huge increase in women having smear tests which will have saved alot of families the heartache her family are experiencing.

I trust when you reach 50 you will ensure year on year you have your prostate checked.

 

But why should it take a rascist ill-educated fake celeb to be unfortunate enough to contract cancer to get these girls to go and get checked up?

 

It's all that is wrong with todays 'I want to be a celeb or just like the celebs' attitude of most young women without half a brain. Ill get slated for saying it but it's just another form of wanting to copy celebs, it just so happens that this is probably the first worthy thing that a celeb has done which is being copied in mass. It just annoys me that all these women wouldnt of taken advantage of a very much available facility which can save their life, until a celeb advises them to (indirectly)

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it just so happens that this is probably the first worthy thing that a celeb has done which is being copied in mass.

 

"The course of our lives is determined by how we react-what we decide and what we do-at the darkest of times. The nature of that response determines a person's true worth"

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But why should it take a rascist ill-educated fake celeb to be unfortunate enough to contract cancer to get these girls to go and get checked up?

 

It's all that is wrong with todays 'I want to be a celeb or just like the celebs' attitude of most young women without half a brain. Ill get slated for saying it but it's just another form of wanting to copy celebs, it just so happens that this is probably the first worthy thing that a celeb has done which is being copied in mass. It just annoys me that all these women wouldnt of taken advantage of a very much available facility which can save their life, until a celeb advises them to (indirectly)

 

Shut up you utter, utter ignorant c*nt.

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Sorry Ponty but 'are right' should contain 9 stars not 4.

 

It's no different that sleeping around without protection but refusing to get checked for STD's. Cervical cancer is obviously a serious illness and early signs can be spotted meaning it stands a good chance of being prevented with simple measures - like smear tests.

 

If people choose not to get these done thinking 'it wont happen to me' or 'I dont have time to do this' then it's not as if they have done everything possible to prevent this.

 

Its like someone who smokes 20 a day who gets cancer. Give up the fags - stand a better chance of not getting cancer. Take smear tests - stand a better chance of spotting the early signs and preventing cancer.

 

It may sound harsh but Jade chose to ignore having these tests even though she (alledgedly) slept around when she was younger and that only changed when something wasnt right, then she even chose to ignore doctors advice about staying for futher tests after the initial one instead chosing to go onto celeb BB again. Hardly the ideal role model to promote girls to get checked up.

 

You probably choose to drive every day - does this mean that you should get killed in a car crash? Life is not always about choices.

 

Smear tests are 1 in every 5 years - what happens if you get it just after an all clear smear?

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You probably choose to drive every day - does this mean that you should get killed in a car crash? Life is not always about choices.

 

Smear tests are 1 in every 5 years - what happens if you get it just after an all clear smear?

 

A bit like a cars MOT test, except the penalty for not having one can be quite heavy. Maybe they should make them a legal requirement for all women over a certain age?

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A bit like a cars MOT test, except the penalty for not having one can be quite heavy. Maybe they should make them a legal requirement for all women over a certain age?

 

They do. 35. Jade was 27. Albeit not legal but why not make it mandatory for females at an earlier age?

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They do. 35. Jade was 27. Albeit not legal but why not make it mandatory for females at an earlier age?

 

You see, this is the sort of post that demonstrates ignorance...

 

 

All women between the ages of 25 and 65 are regularly invited for a smear test

 

Under the NHS Cervical Screening Programme, all women between the ages of 25 and 65 are regularly invited for a smear test. The system is automated, so as long as you're registered with a GP you should receive a letter asking you to make an appointment.

 

As a result of research that evaluated the optimal frequency for cervical screening, women are now invited for their first test at 25. They're then invited every three years until the age of 49, and every five years from 50 to 64.

 

From 65, only those who've had recent abnormal tests are offered another test.

 

It didn't even take a great deal of searching : http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/womens_health/issues_smeartest.shtml

 

I may be reading it wrong but it doesn't say anywhere about it being a legality to get tested.

 

The onus,however, is on the individual to book an appointment once they have been automatically reminded.

 

Jade was 27, so unless she wasn't registered with a doctor had received a letter inviting her to make an appointment two years prior to her eventual death.

 

Also, reminders are sent out every three years, not five.

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Oh and to further prove my point -

 

As a result of research that evaluated the optimal frequency for cervical screening, women are now invited for their first test at 25. They're then invited every three years until the age of 49, and every five years from 50 to 64.

 

If it attacked anyone after a clear smear from say just after 25 - they would be screwed.

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You see, this is the sort of post that demonstrates ignorance...

 

 

 

 

It didn't even take a great deal of searching : http://www.bbc.co.uk/health/womens_health/issues_smeartest.shtml

 

I may be reading it wrong but it doesn't say anywhere about it being a legality to get tested.

 

The onus,however, is on the individual to book an appointment once they have been automatically reminded.

 

Jade was 27, so unless she wasn't registered with a doctor had received a letter inviting her to make an appointment two years prior to her eventual death.

 

Also, reminders are sent out every three years, not five.

 

No they are not, unless you are over 40. FACT.

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