trousers Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 On reading this suggestion yesterday I posted a possible identity for this mysterious consortium as the Reuben brothers.Pretty sure their name had come up on one of the -many- takeover threads. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_and_Simon_Reuben Aye.....they are acquaintances of Sundance, ooops, sorry, Lord Marland of Odstock....who happens to be on the board of WH Ireland...
Ian the Red Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 The rumours I have heard are: Rod Stewart/WGS one interested party Souness/Merrington are one consortium Charlene De Calvalho looks the best bet, she only has 3.2 billion to her name!! A couple 100m wouldn't missed too much!!
Wade Garrett Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Does anyone know Jim Ratcliffe? If you do, can you ask him to buy our football club. Cheers. Wade
Jimmy_D Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Are all the "ITKs" on this thread going to look pathetic again, much like they have for the past 3 years? If they do look pathetic, we'll all be looking for another club to support, The 'Saints' Forum probably won't even be here for people to have a go at them...
trousers Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Does anyone know Jim Ratcliffe? If you do, can you ask him to buy our football club. Cheers. Wade Not rich enough. He's only No.25 in the list of wealthiest Britons
trousers Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Souness/Merrington are one consortium I thought they were in separate consortia?
bridge too far Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Does anyone know Jim Ratcliffe? If you do, can you ask him to buy our football club. Cheers. Wade This Jim Ratcliffe? Lives in Southampton? http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/profile-jim-ratcliffe-britains-most-private-billionaire.aspx
Ian the Red Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 I thought they were in separate consortia? Well that was what I was told after Saturday's game, they are in together.
itchen Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 John Motson grew up watching Charlton So did I. And I was at SMS on Saturday too. Perhaps I'm the mystery buyer. What have the ITKers heard 'cause I need to know too.
trousers Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Well that was what I was told after Saturday's game, they are in together. This is where I read about them being in competition with each other. Perhaps they've since joined forces? http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-1167770/Former-managers-Souness-Merrington-battle-control-Southampton.html Former managers Souness and Merrington battle to take control of Southampton Graeme Souness is ready to step in and save his old club Southampton from going out of business in a £15million deal. Souness is part of a consortium bidding to take control after the Championship strugglers' parent company, Southampton Leisure Holdings, went into administration last week. Saints have debts of nearly £30m but despite this Souness will face competition from another former Southampton manager, Dave Merrington, who is part of a rival consortium.
trousers Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 This Jim Ratcliffe? Lives in Southampton? http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/profile-jim-ratcliffe-britains-most-private-billionaire.aspx ....and he seems to be chums with a certain bank beginning with 'B'..... The press consensus was that “Ratcliffe of Runcorn should be sent packing”, but he managed to extract £50m. Governments are not the only agencies prepared to back Ineos, says the Daily Mail. “It seems to have had no difficulty persuading Barclays Capital, Merrill Lynch and Morgan Stanley to underwrite its £5bn cash offer [for BP].” Hmmm.....
Trader Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 This Jim Ratcliffe? Lives in Southampton? http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/profile-jim-ratcliffe-britains-most-private-billionaire.aspx Lyndhurst I think
Wade Garrett Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 This Jim Ratcliffe? Lives in Southampton? http://www.moneyweek.com/news-and-charts/profile-jim-ratcliffe-britains-most-private-billionaire.aspx I don't think there's another billionaire Jim Ratcliffe who lives in Southampton.
itchen Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Lyndhurst I think Nicholas Lyndhurst? Used to dodgy deals after all...
Trader Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Trouble is, I don't think Ratcliffe's interested in football. With his money he could have taken over or at least invested in Saints anytime in the last few years. Frankly, he's probably got more sense than to "invest" in football.
Wade Garrett Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Trouble is, I don't think Ratcliffe's interested in football. With his money he could have taken over or at least invested in Saints anytime in the last few years. Frankly, he's probably got more sense than to "invest" in football. Apparently, he supports Man Utd.
Delmary Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 As there are alledgedly 19 interseted parties (inevitdably including the tirekickers with or without Barry Briefcase) should we not have an rumour 'list' below that we can scrub the also rans from or use to run a sweepstake? ;-) OK so todate with odds? 1. Salz/Crouch - probably favourites Evens? 2. Gavyn Davies - ? Suspect in with one of the others? 5-1 3. Fulthrope/Merrington - funds? 3-1 4. Souness? not sure of backer as his previous guy went to Wolves 8-1 5. Heineken Lady? - Dutch Royal family as friends, is that what is know as 'Total fantasy'? 1000-1 6. Iranian/Isreali Brothers? Really - would this not be worse that Lowe/Crouch in terms of potential hostilities? ;-) 20-1 7. Richard Branson - now putting money into Brawn GP - 50-1 8. Paul Allen - naturrally the only choice for SFC! 1000-1 so if its 19 who are the others? NB. All odds to increase exponentially if LifeLongSaint is involved. ;-) Gavyn Davies is not involved in any bid.
ottery st mary Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 I am sure a wealthy man called Kennedy(not morgan scouser of Wolves fame) Sale Sharks .Kennedy with Souness?
dubai_phil Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Is the rumoured Paul Miller on his own or is he teaming up with Ossie Ardilles?
trousers Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Is the rumoured Paul Miller on his own or is he teaming up with Ossie Ardilles? Is this for an orange wedge?
dubai_phil Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Is this for an orange wedge? Why would I want an Orange wedgie when I have those Slovakian (and thanks to Legod 3rd coming Latvian) weird chicks on Skype Just passing on what I heard from a mate who drives a taxi
saintwarwick Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Davies hates Lowe, I believe. Many people hate Lowe I believe, mainly saints fans.
trousers Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Just passing on what I heard from a mate who drives a taxi Fare point
SFKA South Woodford Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Reported on Skysports news earlier, that the administrators said that they have now received over 30 enquiries for Saints.
trousers Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Reported on Skysports news earlier, that the administrators said that they have now received over 30 enquiries for Saints. Haven't we reached a point here whereby having too many suitors could actually delay the process long enough for us to miss a deadline? Or indeed the administrator could inadvertantly miss the best deal by not being able to see the wood for the trees and/or wheat for the chaff? Slightly concerned of Hampshire.
Wade Garrett Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 Haven't we reached a point here whereby having too many suitors could actually delay the process long enough for us to miss a deadline? Or indeed the administrator could inadvertantly miss the best deal by not being able to see the wood for the trees and/or wheat for the chaff? Slightly concerned of Hampshire. To be honest, I think most of the 'suitors' just wanted a free corporate day last Saturday. Tyre-kicking convention. They were probably all schooled by our favourite photocopier salesman.
thorpie the sinner Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 I am hoping the administrators will be able to see through the parties looking for a freebie straight away!!! There probably are three maximum serios bids!!! saying that, it wouldn't surprise me if we get to the stage where we have 1hour to go!! It's just the Sants way!
NickG Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 still not one consortium gone public nor a single decent rumour....strange??
miserableoldgit Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 still not one consortium gone public nor a single decent rumour....strange?? I look at this as encouraging. It was always said on here that any prospective buyers worth their salt wouldn`t let anything leak out! Over to you Trousers for some more stream references!!
ghq Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 Cumbria is the product of Local Government re-organisation; previously it was the counties of Cumberland and Westmorland, with Barrow-in-Furness and the Walney peninsula being in 'God's own' Lancashire. Also, from the ever reliable Wikipedia ( area in km/sq ): 1 North Yorkshire 8,038 2 Cumbria 6,768 3 Devon 6,564 4 Lincolnshire 5,921 5 Norfolk 5,371 6 Northumberland 5,013 7 Suffolk 3,801 8 Hampshire 3,679 So to my reckoning, Hants is the biggest in England. All those listed above are north of Watford Gap or west of Dorset. Surely ineligible!
dubai_phil Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 still not one consortium gone public nor a single decent rumour....strange?? NDA's no doubt
Badger Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 On the subject of Jim Ratcliffe: Apparently, he supports Man Utd. So he's not interested in football then ?
spyinthesky Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 I very much hope there is a bidder out there who can inject suitable funds and stability into our club. However let's not get too carried away with the financial 'worth' of any consortium. QPR have, apparently, the wealthiest backers of all and yet they have not achieved a great deal on the pitch. Suggest we ought to rein in our collective expectations if, and when, new owners are known. However, at the moment I suppose, anything is going to be better than the current situation.
Saint 76er Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 still not one consortium gone public nor a single decent rumour....strange?? Au contraire on the rumour front... The rather exotic Dutch lady whose father owned a brewery (the kind of lady I had in actual fact hoped to meet myself one day ). Rocking Rod + WGS, which takes care of the pre game entertainment then. Every game will be like the Superbowl. As a personal opinion I might add David Beckham to this crew, feeling fairly sure Rod would have been having kickabouts with old golden balls over in LaLa land and Becks did mention us as a potential takeover target. Then there is the jewish brothers from Iraq who moved to Iran (talk about out of the frying pan for a pair of jews!) before hot footing it to London to make their fortune. Even that nice Mr Souness is apparently keen to grace us with his presence once again, and he actually knows something about football (which is admittedly an unlikely qualification for a Saints owner). So there you have it, a veritable potpourri of highly credible rumours indicating the high powered negotiations that must surely be taking place behind closed doors even as I type....
Delmary Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Updated odds? 1. The Tchenguiz Brothers? They have the funds but the credit crunch has exposed them to hugh loses. Are they right for Saints? Who knows? - 3-1 2. Tom Scott - Has links to Askham & Richards? 4-1 3. Salz/Crouch - A rival bidder might just beat them to the final post. 5-1 4. Souness? Has yet to issue any denial - 10-1 5. Fulthrope/Merrington - Will Asturius finally be able to produce the funds? Unlikely? 25-1 6. Gavyn Davies - Has publically stated that he's not involved with any bid - 25-1 7. Heineken Lady? - Dutch Royal family as friends, is that what is know as 'Total fantasy'? 1000-1 8. Richard Branson - now putting money into Brawn GP - 50-1 9. Paul Allen - naturrally the only choice for SFC! 1000-1 10. Aliens from Mars - 150000-1 11. LifeLongSaint - 500000-1
SW11_Saint Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 What possible interest would Rod Stewart have in us ? He likes "Sailing" (boom! boom!)
Ashby Saint Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 One of the possible interested parties might be the fella currently at Birmingham - David Gold - I think. I remember when we had the last wave of take overs that he was selling up his shares at Birmingham and looking to reinvest in another club. They interviewed him on 5Live and he even mentioned wanting to buy a southern club. Maybe the circumstances have long changed for this one as I think the sale of Birmingham fell through didn't it? However, he may still have been interested enough to make an enquiry.
homesick-saint Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Souness was originally in a consortium with Brian Kennedy (owner of Weatherseal) and his brother Sean. I have mutual mates of Brian and Sean and would have heard if they were up for it. If Souness is serious I would be very suprised if kennedy was involved. He's invested very heavily in the States in an aquisition that Sean has been running so i doubt if he has the liquididity or the will. I don't know who would be backing Souness this time round.
saint lard Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Updated odds? 1. The Tchenguiz Brothers? They have the funds but the credit crunch has exposed them to hugh loses. Are they right for Saints? Who knows? - 3-1 2. Tom Scott - Has links to Askham & Richards? 4-1 3. Salz/Crouch - A rival bidder might just beat them to the final post. 5-1 4. Souness? Has yet to issue any denial - 10-1 5. Fulthrope/Merrington - Will Asturius finally be able to produce the funds? Unlikely? 25-1 6. Gavyn Davies - Has publically stated that he's not involved with any bid - 25-1 7. Heineken Lady? - Dutch Royal family as friends, is that what is know as 'Total fantasy'? 1000-1 8. Richard Branson - now putting money into Brawn GP - 50-1 9. Paul Allen - naturrally the only choice for SFC! 1000-1 10. Aliens from Mars - 150000-1 11. LifeLongSaint - 500000-1 Anil/Mukesh Ambani ?
SW11_Saint Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 One of the possible interested parties might be the fella currently at Birmingham - David Gold - I think. I remember when we had the last wave of take overs that he was selling up his shares at Birmingham and looking to reinvest in another club. They interviewed him on 5Live and he even mentioned wanting to buy a southern club. Maybe the circumstances have long changed for this one as I think the sale of Birmingham fell through didn't it? However, he may still have been interested enough to make an enquiry. Think you mean David Sullivan, the other sordid little man at Brum. There was talk of him trying to get involved in West Ham or someone a while back - he's an Essex boy I think. The fraud police are still sniffing around Birmingham so not sure he'd be able to make a move, or right for us (oh for a rich, hard-working chairman who doesn't (want to) get his face in the paper every other day!).
dubai_phil Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Updated odds? 1. The Tchenguiz Brothers? They have the funds but the credit crunch has exposed them to hugh loses. Are they right for Saints? Who knows? - 3-1 2. Tom Scott - Has links to Askham & Richards? 4-1 3. Salz/Crouch - A rival bidder might just beat them to the final post. 5-1 4. Souness? Has yet to issue any denial - 10-1 5. Fulthrope/Merrington - Will Asturius finally be able to produce the funds? Unlikely? 25-1 6. Gavyn Davies - Has publically stated that he's not involved with any bid - 25-1 7. Heineken Lady? - Dutch Royal family as friends, is that what is know as 'Total fantasy'? 1000-1 8. Richard Branson - now putting money into Brawn GP - 50-1 9. Paul Allen - naturrally the only choice for SFC! 1000-1 10. Aliens from Mars - 150000-1 11. LifeLongSaint - 500000-1 Think you have to include some combination of ex-Spurs players in that list somewhere, Vega has been supposed to be sniffing around down the road, not sure if it's a FIRM bid (Vega is the name of the Syrian patent busting Viagra BTW) Someone mentioned Paul Miller in an earlier thread, and my mate in the Chapel End reckons he saw Ardilles (although as hmy mate was on Britannia Road in his taxi at the time how he ever spotted him amongst the bollards I'll never know...)
camdijk Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Someone mentioned Paul Miller in an earlier thread, and my mate in the Chapel End reckons he saw Ardilles (although as hmy mate was on Britannia Road in his taxi at the time how he ever spotted him amongst the bollards I'll never know...) Would Radio Solent let him have time off from his radio broadcasts though? ;-)
westmidlandsaint Posted 12 April, 2009 Posted 12 April, 2009 1. The Tchenguiz Brothers? They have the funds but the credit crunch has exposed them to hugh loses. Are they right for Saints? Who knows? - 3-1 Did I miss something here? who are the The Tchenguiz brothers, when were they linked? why are they linked?
NickG Posted 12 April, 2009 Posted 12 April, 2009 apart from one brief mention in papers of Souness v Merrington don't think anyone has been linked apart from wishful thinking on here?
Delmary Posted 12 April, 2009 Posted 12 April, 2009 1. The Tchenguiz Brothers? They have the funds but the credit crunch has exposed them to hugh loses. Are they right for Saints? Who knows? - 3-1 Did I miss something here? who are the The Tchenguiz brothers, when were they linked? why are they linked?Speculation from Morph.
Morph Posted 12 April, 2009 Posted 12 April, 2009 Speculation from Morph. Not from me. I was responding to seculation from elsewhere I'm afraid. Someone called Mustafa Fag. I know nothing about this : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=251490#post251490 Regards Morph
Amesbury Saint Posted 12 April, 2009 Posted 12 April, 2009 Not from me. I was responding to seculation from elsewhere I'm afraid. Someone called Mustafa Fag. I know nothing about this : http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=251490#post251490 Regards Morph But what do you know?
Morph Posted 12 April, 2009 Posted 12 April, 2009 But what do you know? I know that I'll know more tomorrow, particularly with regard a certain consortium, but my information that ownership the Club and ownership of the stadiium would separate seems to be proving correct. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=250668#post250668 Regards Morph
Amesbury Saint Posted 12 April, 2009 Posted 12 April, 2009 I know that I'll know more tomorrow, particularly with regard a certain consortium, but my information that ownership the Club and ownership of the stadiium would separate seems to be proving correct. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?p=250668#post250668 Regards Morph thank you - always good to read what you say
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