SaintNeil90 Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 Yesterday we missed Gillet. He steps back from play and claims all the lose balls. He plays like a terrier, always at peoples feet making the tackles. He then plays the ball out to the wings and creates space. No-one did that yesterday and its beyond me why Schneiderlein wasn't thrown on. Schneiderlein is similar to Gillet in the sense he steps back and trys to great space with his passing, switching the ball whenever he can. Therefore he has to play at Watford.
70's Mike Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 Yesterday we missed Gillet. He steps back from play and claims all the lose balls. He plays like a terrier, always at peoples feet making the tackles. He then plays the ball out to the wings and creates space. No-one did that yesterday and its beyond me why Schneiderlein wasn't thrown on. Schneiderlein is similar to Gillet in the sense he steps back and trys to great space with his passing, switching the ball whenever he can. Therefore he has to play at Watford. the bit missing, in your words , from Morgan is "he plays like a terrier , always at peoples feet making tackles" he plays like a poodle , and is it their feet because he has been beaten in the tackle. not a CCC player wish Arsenal would hurry up and buy him
SaintNeil90 Posted 5 April, 2009 Author Posted 5 April, 2009 So you would rather keep Wotton in the middle. Slow, cant pass, always hoofing the ball, and a liability with his rash tackling?
70's Mike Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 So you would rather keep Wotton in the middle. Slow, cant pass, always hoofing the ball, and a liability with his rash tackling? no i would like to see a basic 4-4-2 in a game we hacve to win Davis James JPS Perry Skacel Thompson Euell Surman Holmes DMG BWP SH*T OR BUST
derry Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 Yesterday we missed Gillet. He steps back from play and claims all the lose balls. He plays like a terrier, always at peoples feet making the tackles. He then plays the ball out to the wings and creates space. No-one did that yesterday and its beyond me why Schneiderlein wasn't thrown on. Schneiderlein is similar to Gillet in the sense he steps back and trys to great space with his passing, switching the ball whenever he can. Therefore he has to play at Watford. But not if they play a diamond, he needs men out wide, Holmes WL/BWP WR he then has passing options and we will begin to play. Wotton is awful. He should have been right back instead of Thompson, He, Thompson and Lallana were absolutely dire and caused us awful problems.
up and away Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 Yesterday we missed Gillet. He steps back from play and claims all the lose balls. He plays like a terrier, always at peoples feet making the tackles. He then plays the ball out to the wings and creates space. No-one did that yesterday and its beyond me why Schneiderlein wasn't thrown on. Schneiderlein is similar to Gillet in the sense he steps back and trys to great space with his passing, switching the ball whenever he can. Therefore he has to play at Watford. I agree about Gillet, but do not see Morgan solving that problem. The only solution I can see is SoccerMums, move Lloyd James into midfield and find someone else for right back, maybe Wotton? I am not sure Lloyd James can do that job positionally, but he is the only one I can see to put in the tackles. Maybe Euell, but to me this is the key area that needs addressing.
saintsforlife7 Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 no i would like to see a basic 4-4-2 in a game we hacve to win Davis James JPS Perry Skacel Thompson Euell Surman Holmes DMG BWP SH*T OR BUST Euell is not a central midfielder, imo Schneiderlin should play because at least he can pass to somwbody on his own team. Thomson should not play again this year, not up to scratch one bit yet. Davis James JPS Perry Skacel Smith Lallana Schneiderlin Holmes Saga Euell
Arizona Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 I know stats aren't the be all and end all but... Morgan Schneiderlin Starts: 23 Subs: 5 Goals: 0 Assists: 0 Shots on target: 4 Shots off target: 11 Headers won: 1 Added to that he tackles like a jellyfish and spends half his life in the physio room. "Flatter to deceive" doesn't quite do it justice somehow.
Smirking_Saint Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 I know stats aren't the be all and end all but... Morgan Schneiderlin Starts: 23 Subs: 5 Goals: 0 Assists: 0 Shots on target: 4 Shots off target: 11 Headers won: 1 Added to that he tackles like a jellyfish and spends half his life in the physio room. "Flatter to deceive" doesn't quite do it justice somehow. Has he honestly only won 1 header in 28 games ?? Wow, that is pretty impressive. I agree with 70's mike, set the team up nice and simple, use the width and allow the midfield to play. Got to go for it now. Davis James Size Perry Skacel BWP DMG Surman Holmes Euell Saga
bolo Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 I know stats aren't the be all and end all but... Morgan Schneiderlin Starts: 23 Subs: 5 Goals: 0 Assists: 0 Shots on target: 4 Shots off target: 11 Headers won: 1 Added to that he tackles like a jellyfish and spends half his life in the physio room. "Flatter to deceive" doesn't quite do it justice somehow. 1 f***ing header won in 23 starts... You have got to be kidding me.... Even i could do better than that! and i am 5 foot 6....
Arizona Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 1 f***ing header won in 23 starts... You have got to be kidding me.... Even i could do better than that! and i am 5 foot 6.... I was astonished when read it... He has actually won a header this season.
L1Minus10 Posted 5 April, 2009 Posted 5 April, 2009 I was astonished when read it... He has actually won a header this season. I remember it, he turned his back as someone went to shoot and it hit him on the back of the head
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 6 April, 2009 Posted 6 April, 2009 I know stats aren't the be all and end all but... Morgan Schneiderlin Starts: 23 Subs: 5 Goals: 0 Assists: 0 Shots on target: 4 Shots off target: 11 Headers won: 1 Added to that he tackles like a jellyfish and spends half his life in the physio room. "Flatter to deceive" doesn't quite do it justice somehow. Still better than Wotton though.
fanimal Posted 6 April, 2009 Posted 6 April, 2009 Has he honestly only won 1 header in 28 games ?? Wow, that is pretty impressive. I agree with 70's mike, set the team up nice and simple, use the width and allow the midfield to play. Got to go for it now. Davis James Size Perry Skacel BWP DMG Surman Holmes Euell Saga best form of defence is attack!
alpine_saint Posted 6 April, 2009 Posted 6 April, 2009 I know stats aren't the be all and end all but... Morgan Schneiderlin Starts: 23 Subs: 5 Goals: 0 Assists: 0 Shots on target: 4 Shots off target: 11 Headers won: 1 Added to that he tackles like a jellyfish and spends half his life in the physio room. "Flatter to deceive" doesn't quite do it justice somehow. Schnedierlin is the new Agustin Delgado. Considering the plight the club is in, we've probably wasted as much money on him in real terms too.
iansouthstander Posted 6 April, 2009 Posted 6 April, 2009 Has he honestly only won 1 header in 28 games ?? Wow, that is pretty impressive. I agree with 70's mike, set the team up nice and simple, use the width and allow the midfield to play. Got to go for it now. Davis James Size Perry Skacel BWP DMG Surman Holmes Euell Saga We need a ball winner in midfield. None of these fellas can tackle. We really are short of combative midfielders , especially when Gillett isn't around.
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 April, 2009 Posted 6 April, 2009 best form of defence is attack! Thank you my friend, just believe we need to go for it now. We need a ball winner in midfield. None of these fellas can tackle. We really are short of combative midfielders , especially when Gillett isn't around. I agree we could do with a combatative midfielder but truth is we have not got one without Gillet and with Wotton being sh!te and all, from what i have seen lately DMG has changed for me and looking like he is ready to muck in for the team, Surman isn't too bad, lacking form i know. Truth is, with the right set up (football playing team) we should be able to take the game to them, BWP and Holmes will give width and a bit of pace. Play off euell if you need and also ensure the team is not as one dimensional as it is now. I fully agree, everyteam needs a ball winner but i can't see who ?? Unless maybe push JPS up (think he CDAJ in holding role, seems assured on ball) but that would upset the defence. :smt017 But, i am not paid to make decisions. (not football ones anyway)
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 6 April, 2009 Posted 6 April, 2009 Has he honestly only won 1 header in 28 games ?? Wow, that is pretty impressive. I agree with 70's mike, set the team up nice and simple, use the width and allow the midfield to play. Got to go for it now. Davis James Size Perry Skacel BWP DMG Surman Holmes Euell Saga That's probably the worse midfield this grand old club has fielded in 30 years . BWP - Is not and never will be a wide midfield player in any meaningful sense . DMG - An average striker that can do some kind of job there - but only just . Surman - Drowning under the weight of responsibility & expectation . Holmes - Inconsistently capable but can't possibly be match fit . The trouble is the alternatives are as bad or even worse (Wotton ) - which just shows how desperately weak this squad is . I think back 12 months and Nigel Pearson had the likes of Jhon Viafara or Youseff Safri to pick from , and plenty on here said that squad was poor !
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 April, 2009 Posted 6 April, 2009 That's probably the worse midfield this grand old club has fielded in 30 years . BWP - Is not and never will be a wide midfield player in any meaningful sense . DMG - An average striker that can do some kind of job there - but only just . Surman - Drowning under the weight of responsibility & expectation . Holmes - Inconsistently capable but can't possibly be match fit . The trouble is the alternatives are as bad or even worse (Wotton ) - which just shows how desperately weak this squad is . I think back 12 months and Nigel Pearson had the likes of Jhon Viafara or Youseff Safri to pick from , and plenty on here said that squad was poor ! I agree, the midfield probably is not great and the squad is definately poor but i picked what best i could from what i feel we should work with ? I disagree with DMG though i thought he showed some promise and had a good engine on him and i think with the right guidence he could become a good midfielder (plus on it was reported he had a good season at port vale in midfield) With the wingers the team is screaming for width and i don't know who else to put there really, i think they could offer some pace ?? Dunno, only my opinion obviously.
forever a red and white Posted 6 April, 2009 Posted 6 April, 2009 strangely i would like bwp to start, saga may tire slightly busy week ahead. Davis James Saejis Perry Rudi BWP WOtton Surman Holmes *(if fit) Saga Euell wotton at least adds some steal and leadership
Smirking_Saint Posted 6 April, 2009 Posted 6 April, 2009 Don't get me wrong, i don't actually rate BWP that highly and can't see the northam stands affection to him. But i believe at the moment he adds a dimension that the club is missing, the long ball is too 1 dimensional and if the opposition can counter it and withstand it, as Charlton IMO did, then we offer nothing else. A bit of pace up the wings however will. The only other thing would be to use Ryan Smith but on the left, where he should have come on sat so that he can actually use his left foot to effect. Don't get me wrong i really don't think he is great but use his pace, ask him to beat the man and get balls in the box.
Mowgli Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Is Saga still with us - I never noticed him on Saturday.... Scheiderlin and Holmes would be good starts to give us width against Watford. They have a good understanding between them.
Wildgoose Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 I agree about Gillet, but do not see Morgan solving that problem. The only solution I can see is SoccerMums, move Lloyd James into midfield and find someone else for right back, maybe Wotton? I am not sure Lloyd James can do that job positionally, but he is the only one I can see to put in the tackles. Maybe Euell, but to me this is the key area that needs addressing. But midfield is James' natural position isn't it? so yes I agree and would like us to play him there as the best option, but who do you play at right back, Wotton is surely too slow?!
Chez Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Lets get rid of the bloody diamond and get two central midfieders in the side. I really really don't want to select Wotton in my side but other than playing Gobern in the centre I see little option. When I saw Gobern in the middle against Manu he looked decent and if I had seen a little more I'd get him in immediately. **** it, as at matters nto what I put down here I'm going to include Gobern. I'd like to see Lallana return to the middle and played in the hole behind Euell. Lets flood the midfield a little bit and get some pasing going to bring Surman into the side who has struggled since we started hoofing. Is Patterson fit? I don't understand why he had dissapeared fromt he scene otherwise. Davis James Saeijs Perry Skacel Smith Gobern Schneiderlin Surman Lallana Euell Forecast Liptak Patterson Saga BWP
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