brightspark Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 Someone who knows League 1. Who maybe has taken a team up from the division before. If by some miracle we are in The Championship, and Wotte doesn't stay, i'd love to be able to attract a name like Curbishley, although realistically it will have to be someone like Steve Cotterill or Sven Goran Eriksson...
these things take time Posted 7 April, 2009 Posted 7 April, 2009 I think Paul Tisdale would be the best choice, but if we get relegated to League 1, then I doubt he would come here. As at the moment it looks like Exeter will be joining us next season.
SaintRobbie Posted 7 April, 2009 Author Posted 7 April, 2009 I don't buy this. If they are successful with us they can go up with us. If they succeed again, they can go up again. Why shouldn't someone do a Keegan with us??? If they are then poached by United, Chelsea or England, fine by me. Cos we'll be in the Premiership by then!!! Agree with that. Part of my thinking on Ince was that I suspect after being stung in the Premiership last time he might stay and see the job done at Saints - we'd have the Premiership potential unlike MK Dons as well.
SaintRobbie Posted 7 April, 2009 Author Posted 7 April, 2009 (edited) or should we keep him afterall? Walk like an Egyptian! Edited 8 April, 2009 by SaintRobbie
Badger Posted 8 April, 2009 Posted 8 April, 2009 or a better dancer...? Always thought Ince had an uncanny resemblance to Kid Creole
SaintRobbie Posted 8 April, 2009 Author Posted 8 April, 2009 Always thought Ince had an uncanny resemblance to Kid Creole Nah....
SaintRobbie Posted 10 April, 2009 Author Posted 10 April, 2009 Breaking news... Ince linked to the QPR manager job... !
Mr Saints Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Was speaking to the Southend goalkeeping coach on Thursday. Tilson is apparently being lined up for Ipswich if Magilton gets sacked at the end of the season. If it doesn't come off, could be a good shout for us as he knows League 1 inside out.
OldNick Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Was speaking to the Southend goalkeeping coach on Thursday. Tilson is apparently being lined up for Ipswich if Magilton gets sacked at the end of the season. If it doesn't come off, could be a good shout for us as he knows League 1 inside out. Firstly to play next season we have to be taken over. Secondly if the new people are looking to put in somebody as uninspiring I expect we are going to have another load of smalltime businessmen running us.
Mr Saints Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Firstly to play next season we have to be taken over. Secondly if the new people are looking to put in somebody as uninspiring I expect we are going to have another load of smalltime businessmen running us. Well I just can't see Paul Allen bringing in Frank Rijkaard.
Badger Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Well I just can't see Paul Allen bringing in Frank Rijkaard. Jimmy Gabriel will be back from Seattle then.
explorer saint Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Boothroyd and Adams good shout but I'd go for Holloway he would shake this lot out of their general apathy and recreate that self belief those players that are still here next season. Whoever is our next manager he must be British
sidthesquid Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 I think Paul Tisdale would be the best choice, but if we get relegated to League 1, then I doubt he would come here. As at the moment it looks like Exeter will be joining us next season. Grayson went down a division to go to Leeds. He would be well up my list of candidates - our budget will be about equal to theirs - but a bit more long-term potential
WestSaint Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Thing is, look at our recent unsuccessful managers - Gray, Wigley, Sturrock, JP, Wotte...all 'nice' guys who couldn't get the job done. Maybe a c*nt is what we need? Sturrock is proven and has been successful in Div 1 with both Plymouth and Sheffield Wednesday. I could understand the appointment if it was made - but could equally understand that the fans want someone previously not attached with the club
WestSaint Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 (edited) What about Paul Tisdale? Ex Saint and doing well with Exeter. Thats a reasonable call. 2 play off finals at Wembley and currently first season in league are third and in automatic playoff place. We may be in the same division as Exeter next season and Tisdale and Perryman although relatively inexperienced in the league are certainly names to keep in mind. Edited 11 April, 2009 by WestSaint
LGTL Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 I'd happily take a young, up and coming manager who has done a good job at a lower level and would potentially see Saints as a step up. I would get away from the Ince's and Boothroyd's becasue they will never come here. I'd love Darren Ferguson but can't see him leaving Peterborough.
mitch01 Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 boothroyd, pardew, ince, wise I´ll just be chuffed if we still have a club
Window Cleaner Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 I'd happily take a young, up and coming manager who has done a good job at a lower level and would potentially see Saints as a step up. I would get away from the Ince's and Boothroyd's becasue they will never come here. I'd love Darren Ferguson but can't see him leaving Peterborough. Why would Ferguson want to leave Peterborough in the CCC and come to Saints in League 1?? No logic in that is there. We will get another manager who asks less than 200K a year, because we just ain't going to get a moneybags owner.
LGTL Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Why would Ferguson want to leave Peterborough in the CCC and come to Saints in League 1?? No logic in that is there. We will get another manager who asks less than 200K a year, because we just ain't going to get a moneybags owner. Well Grayson did it from Blackpool to Leeds, as he saw them as a "bigger" club. Can't really see that happening with Saints though.
Roger Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Surely paul tisdale. He has taken exeter up 1 league and maybe another. He used to play for us and his teams play really good football.
Papa Shango Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Surely paul tisdale. He has taken exeter up 1 league and maybe another. He used to play for us and his teams play really good football. Not a bad shout. Boothroyd would be good as well.
hypochondriac Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 too expensive Seeing as we have no idea about our finances for next year it would be foolish to write it off yet.
70's Mike Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Alan Knill , Bury manager, think he was ex Saints or Paul Tisdale from Exeter both could do a good job for us in Div1
Pat from Poole Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 John Sitton... Best shout of all. "And you, you ****, I'll ****ing have you, I'll take you all on, you ****s......."
Pat from Poole Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Surely paul tisdale. He has taken exeter up 1 league and maybe another. He used to play for us and his teams play really good football. Paul Tisdale seems a good guy, but I'm not sure about having a manager who's quite well-spoken and wears cravates. Doesn't seem right somehow.
hugh Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Sean O'Driscoll maybe, none of the others though. As an alternative, how about Nigel Adkins at S c u n thorpe Utd. Achieved promotion from Div 1 on zero resources and although they were relegated I remember the team played good attacking football and gave us a fright at St.Marys. Has stuck with them, although they might just be fading from the playoff places, it could mean he would consider a change.
eelpie Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 Wotte didn't do too badly until yesterday maybe he's just been lucky to get the three wins on the bounce, precious little since. The team he picked was predictably awful and unbalanced. He should have made two substitutions and changed it after 20 mins and taken Thompson and Lallana off. Again at half time possibly three changes. He didn't do a damn thing, Smith came on at 64mins, BWP at 73mins and Liptak for Thompson at 80mins FFS. At 3-1 down Wotton was still playing as a holding midfielder FFS. It was probably the most incompetent managerial performance from any manager I've seen in 55 years. You have it there. Wotte is a manager who has lost the plot. We have become a team that has turned it's back on what it did at least do well under JP - skilful passing play (and we did get some decent away wins) to one that relies on blind hoofing. Appalling tactics. A manager for League 1 starting with minus 10 points is going to take some finding, especially as we will have lost the best of our reasonably experienced youth.
Viking Warrior Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 I don't think we as fans will have a say who we will have as a manager I just hope we don't have some meglomaniac like they have at QPR taking over our club. They change managers more frequently than the sheets at a plush hotel in london This thread is about Wotte and I would like to give him another season to put things right. This thread has ****ed me off somewhat. When I posed this question last week re would the fans now turn on Wotte, I was called a thick **** + + by some more esteemed posters. and here we have a thread debating a replacement for wotte barely a week later.
Viking Warrior Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 PS SHearer and Dowie will be availble next season providing Jo Kinnear makes a full recovery
um pahars Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 I don't think we as fans will have a say who we will have as a manager I just hope we don't have some meglomaniac like they have at QPR taking over our club. They change managers more frequently than the sheets at a plush hotel in london Where have you been lately?????
Wiltshire Saint Posted 11 April, 2009 Posted 11 April, 2009 I think Paul Tisdale would be the best choice, but if we get relegated to League 1, then I doubt he would come here. As at the moment it looks like Exeter will be joining us next season. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!!!!1 LOL!!! "if we get relegated" People should take note of the David Armstrong thread where Tommy Widdrington is getting just as many backers as Tisdale is on this thread. Personally I would go for TW over PT. He has a fire in his belly.
charliemiller Posted 12 April, 2009 Posted 12 April, 2009 Peter Taylor , Mickey Adams , Stuart Pearce or Peter Reid for me in either division.
SaintRobbie Posted 17 April, 2009 Author Posted 17 April, 2009 PS SHearer and Dowie will be availble next season providing Jo Kinnear makes a full recovery I dont think so.... Shearer will stay at the Toon if they go down IMHO.
Wildgoose Posted 18 April, 2009 Posted 18 April, 2009 I think someone like Steve Tilson from Southend, or even Danny Wilson who's now at Swindon would do a good job at Saints..... they have both taken smaller clubs than Saints to promotion in the past and even though Wilson lost his way a bit I think he would do well......also like the idea of Paul Tisdale being given a chance
John B Posted 18 April, 2009 Posted 18 April, 2009 I think someone like Steve Tilson from Southend, or even Danny Wilson who's now at Swindon would do a good job at Saints..... they have both taken smaller clubs than Saints to promotion in the past and even though Wilson lost his way a bit I think he would do well......also like the idea of Paul Tisdale being given a chance George Burley took Ipswich to the Premiership It does not mean managers who have had a team promoted will always do so Wotte seems OK to me why change?
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 April, 2009 Posted 18 April, 2009 It pains me to say this but if Wotte can keep us up I would actually give him a chance.
John B Posted 18 April, 2009 Posted 18 April, 2009 It pains me to say this but if Wotte can keep us up I would actually give him a chance. Yes I agree but it begs the question why was he not given the job in the first place. Perhaps with Saga Euell Sageis playing regularly and James and McGoldrick playing better the squad is in a better shape than when JP was here. But the tactics are probably better
SaintRobbie Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Posted 18 April, 2009 It pains me to say this but if Wotte can keep us up I would actually give him a chance. It does not pain me to say this, but if Wotte keeps us up I would still sack the useless fraud who ruined our season and conned his way into the managerial appointment. Mr 'TotalYouthFootballWillWorkMrLoweAndIAgreeItsAllTheFansFaultForNotSupporting' Wotte IS history in 3 games time IMHO. If not? Then our new owners may need to seriously examine their bid again (which I am assuming contains an ambitious plan for the Club as well as a man to lead it).
John B Posted 18 April, 2009 Posted 18 April, 2009 It does not pain me to say this, but if Wotte keeps us up I would still sack the useless fraud who ruined our season and conned his way into the managerial appointment. Mr 'TotalYouthFootballWillWorkMrLoweAndIAgreeItsAllTheFansFaultForNotSupporting' Wotte IS history in 3 games time IMHO. If not? Then our new owners may need to seriously examine their bid again (which I am assuming contains an ambitious plan for the Club as well as a man to lead it). I just think Wotte has done a reasonable job since he has taken over as probably as good as Pearson so why should he not stay.
Kadeem Hardison Posted 18 April, 2009 Posted 18 April, 2009 Why hasn't Tommy Widdrington been mentioned on this thread yet? Sometimes I think our fans are so blind to the obvious.
SaintRobbie Posted 18 April, 2009 Author Posted 18 April, 2009 I just think Wotte has done a reasonable job since he has taken over as probably as good as Pearson so why should he not stay. Because I think his contribution should be assessed holistically. Wotte fed the sweety mice to Lowe years ago that Total Youth Football would work. It has resulted in relegation. Wotte had JP removed and then changed Club policy to allow men into the team when it became obvious we were going down under the strategy. It is not surprising that by playing Saga, Euell, Skacel etc we have had better results. Had JP not had the same restrictions I feel that we would be bottom half but probably not relegation certainties. Wotte has been clumbsy in his support of Lowe and criticism of the fans. Wotte is Lowe's man. The new owners should bring in their own man if the management team from top to bottom is going to be tailored for success and for unity. Whats more I dont think he's any good, so far he has relegated a Dutch team, left his international jobs shall we say...errrr... suddenly and will IMHO relegate Saints. If he doesnt then I'll say, 'phew that was lucky' but still insist he is removed I'm afraid. Wotte was one of the architects of this fallacy of a season. He needs to leave with his master (and according to Lowe himself 'good friend') regardless. Time for a change. I like the Aidy Boothroyd suggestions.
John B Posted 18 April, 2009 Posted 18 April, 2009 Because I think his contribution should be assessed holistically. Wotte fed the sweety mice to Lowe years ago that Total Youth Football would work. It has resulted in relegation. Wotte had JP removed and then changed Club policy to allow men into the team when it became obvious we were going down under the strategy. It is not surprising that by playing Saga, Euell, Skacel etc we have had better results. Had JP not had the same restrictions I feel that we would be bottom half but probably not relegation certainties. Wotte has been clumbsy in his support of Lowe and criticism of the fans. Wotte is Lowe's man. The new owners should bring in their own man if the management team from top to bottom is going to be tailored for success and for unity. Whats more I dont think he's any good, so far he has relegated a Dutch team, left his international jobs shall we say...errrr... suddenly and will IMHO relegate Saints. If he doesnt then I'll say, 'phew that was lucky' but still insist he is removed I'm afraid. Wotte was one of the architects of this fallacy of a season. He needs to leave with his master (and according to Lowe himself 'good friend') regardless. Time for a change. I like the Aidy Boothroyd suggestions. So you had no problem with Pearson leaving as he was Crouch's man. A lot of what you say is conjecture I would have thought but he seems to be doing a reasonable job to me. With regard to his comments on Fans I would have that a fairly large number of other fans would be in agreement with him
OldNick Posted 18 April, 2009 Posted 18 April, 2009 It pains me to say this but if Wotte can keep us up I would actually give him a chance.If he keeps us up it would be be just as ludicrous as getting rid of NP as it would be him.
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