Consortium / Prospective buyer in now!

[alpine_saint]

Quite, I doubt if Alpine has heard of the expression "Out of the frying pan into the fire" which is odd given what happened the last time Lowe went.

 

Let's wait and see what happens eh Alpine? Despite what you seem to believe, there are worse people out there than Rupert Lowe.

 

(PS, whatever happened to the mooted Paul Allen takeover Alpine?)

 

Do shut up with your obsessive stalking.

 

Lowe never went away - part of the problem why the Wilde-led years were unsuccessful because potential investers were spooked by Lowe still being in the background with his cronies, ready to make a comeback. And so it has proven....

 

You are part of the historical revisionist brigade on here that insist the Wilde years were worse than the last year under Lowe. Utter bolllllocks. Lowe never got us anywhere near promotion, and got us relegated (twice now...) to boot.

 

If we had had a decent, consisten manager with no personal issues unde Wilde, we would have been promoted with the squad we had, and all this *****ing would be "moot" Sadly, we had George Burley, who even now is ballsing up his latest part-time job.

 

As I have said countless times, no hope has been replace with some hope - a complete change in direction and a clean sweep of the culture of ego-driven failure is now on the cards, and I am utterly convinced this is the right way forward.

 

So, you see, your carefully-chosen digs have had no impact at all.

[OldNick]

Lowe never went away - part of the problem why the Wilde-led years were unsuccessful because potential investers were spooked by Lowe still being in the background with his cronies, ready to make a comeback. And so it has proven....

 

You are part of the historical revisionist brigade on here that insist the Wilde years were worse than the last year under Lowe. .

Talk about being revisionist! A 6% shareholding never was enough to stop a take over.No investor wanted to pay a price for the shares to tempt them to sell.We had/have interested parties who are too worried counting the pennies rather than knocking all others out of the way with an impressive bid.

Any investro who has to worry if it is £5m too much is hardly going to get us into dreamland, more like poundland.

[Wade Garrett]

Talk about being revisionist! A 6% shareholding never was enough to stop a take over.No investor wanted to pay a price for the shares to tempt them to sell.We had/have interested parties who are too worried counting the pennies rather than knocking all others out of the way with an impressive bid.

Any investro who has to worry if it is £5m too much is hardly going to get us into dreamland, more like poundland.

 

Rich people will not pay over the odds for a Mars Bar, let alone a football club. If someone wants it, he will pay just enough, no more no less.

[um pahars]

Funny, cos he said the opposite in an article for that scintillating read "Accountancy Age":

 

I remember that article of some 5 or 6 years ago, I spoke to him less than a year ago.

 

Post the whole link up on it, as I'm sure things (and his opinion) may have changed somewhat in the intervening years, as I'm sure he was rather bullish on that article about football clubs listing.

 

Additionally, as I said in my earlier response (which included the Crouch overdraft that you have once again overlooked;)), our listing was not a "major factor".

 

I'm sure it "helped" (it certainly wouldn't have hindered), but the overiding factor as to why many Clubs, listed and non listed, were recipients of so much money at that time was due to the huge amounts of money flowing in to the game (primarily from TV rights).

 

 

(BTW the overdraft that Crouch inherited was £6.1m at 31/12/07 - the peak of £6.3m Lowe referred to was after Crouch had stepped down, but before the year end - and the overdraft stood at £5.7m at 30/6/08. Not really what you were inferring then!).

 

(Or if you were after cash and cash equivalents it was -£5.8m when Crouch came on the scene and reduced to -£4.4m 6 months later)

Edited 14 April, 2009 by um pahars

[dubai_phil]

Rich people will not pay over the odds for a Mars Bar, let alone a football club. If someone wants it, he will pay just enough, no more no less.

 

Unless their called Mike Ashley, Abu Dhabi or Man City :-)

[OldNick]

Rich people will not pay over the odds for a Mars Bar, let alone a football club. If someone wants it, he will pay just enough, no more no less.

thats where you are wrong.I agree some will not but many will.You only have to look at when a new Ferrari is going to be released and there is a waiting list. How country estates are put to sealed bids etc. if a wealthy person really wants something they get it.

[Wade Garrett]

Unless their called Mike Ashley, Abu Dhabi or Man City :-)

 

Ashley struck what seemed a good deal at the time, but his investment has gone tits up because of his mismanagement of the club. Abu Dhabi, I'll give you, although I don't know what they paid.

 

But what about the Arabs who are refusing to pay over the odds for Liverpool? I still don't think rich people will pay any more than they need to.

[Wade Garrett]

thats where you are wrong.I agree some will not but many will.You only have to look at when a new Ferrari is going to be released and there is a waiting list. How country estates are put to sealed bids etc. if a wealthy person really wants something they get it.

 

True, when they want something and have a bit of competition they will go the extra mile.

 

Whether there is the same demand for Saints as a new model Ferrari I don't know. I doubt it.

[OldNick]

True, when they want something and have a bit of competition they will go the extra mile.

 

Whether there is the same demand for Saints as a new model Ferrari I don't know. I doubt it.

If they want us, they want us. if they are not sure whether a £1m or so makes the difference i cant see that helps us long term except for surviving until the next crisis