Consortium / Prospective buyer in now!

[derry]

Although I don't think I every abused you I wasn't in favour of administration.

 

I don't feel "f**king stupid" though. I'm hopeful but still very nervous.

 

This could (and hopefully will) turn out well in the long run, but it could also still end in disaster.

 

Maybe I'm just a risk adverse accountant but I would still have looked to avoid admin for as long as possible.

 

I understand where you are coming from but in the end maybe it was Barclays getting rid of the impediment. I can't think that they haven't had some sort of contact with at least one of the bids and had a pretty shrewd idea where this may end up.

 

If and it's an iffy if, the league don't have legal grounds for a points deduction and again a big if the team pulls it's collective finger out, this could turn out to be the start of a new era.

[derry]

Wonder who he is meeting ?!?

 

 

Regards

 

 

Morph

 

I do a lot of puzzles, and you've confirmed my suspicions. I must say I hope it succeeds, it would be really the best outcome possible. IMHO of course;).

[Toomer]

Nothing amusing Exit2, I was saying last season that no shrewd investor or consortium would consider paying for the club when they could sit in the trees waiting for the bones of our revenue streams to picked clean.

 

The vultures have simply stopped circling and hardly surprisng Fry isn't hanging around - have you listened to his interviews? We might not make it until the end of the season without investment. Nothing to with who was in charge the same result would have happened but maybe just a bit sooner. Michael Wilde started this mess and the board sanctioning the overspending of money we couldn't afford couple that with declining revenues last season and the Lowe effect this season has just destroyed the club's finances.

 

We can blame Lowe, Crouch or Wilde but our fans simply don't want to support the team in difficult times or during a mundane season outside the premiership so god knows what they will be like when we get relegated to League 1.

 

Good afternoon Rupert, ex directory today.

[Viking Warrior]

Alpine

 

I have had a pop at you about this in the past.

 

I still don't think it is a good position to be in, there are still so many barriers

to overcome.

 

I still don't like the idea of being in administration so will not apologise to you

as you have always been negative. Burley the Players and Lowe. I respect your opinion but do not necessarily agree with it

 

The only good thing about the events over the last few days is lowe and co have gone and there is some semblance of normality appearing between some of the fans on this site and the boardroom squabbles. For me that is a real positive.

 

Now get behind wotte and the team from now until the end of the season

 

The futures Bright the futures red and white

[alpine_saint]

Not the time me old mate - you may feel like gloating and you may have a point but today is not the time.

 

As I've tried to explain, I am not the slightest bit gloating or smug.

 

Outraged, yes.

[alpine_saint]

Alpine

 

I have had a pop at you about this in the past.

 

I still don't think it is a good position to be in, there are still so many barriers

to overcome.

 

I still don't like the idea of being in administration so will not apologise to you

as you have always been negative. Burley the Players and Lowe. I respect your opinion but do not necessarily agree with it

 

The only good thing about the events over the last few days is lowe and co have gone and there is some semblance of normality appearing between some of the fans on this site and the boardroom squabbles. For me that is a real positive.

 

Now get behind wotte and the team from now until the end of the season

 

The futures Bright the futures red and white

 

See, I still dont get this. I never demanded administration, but argued that it would replace "no hope" with "some hope". And was abused for it by the likes of you. But so it has proven..........

 

Yet despite that, you still dont think you should button it, you now feel you have the right to lecture me about something else.

 

Utterly bizarre.

[Gingeletiss]

They're hurting AS.......and so they bl**dy well should be IMHO;)

[NickG]

I have just been told that there is currently a meeting going on now between a prospective buyer / consortium and Messers Fry and the legal team from the administrators

 

I have to say fair play to Mark Fry as he isnt hanging around here and Im quite hopeful that we will get a deal we are waiting for.

 

 

Back to Baj's comment about 15 interested parties, dont you think it is amusing they have come out now when either Lowe has gone or they can pick the club up for nowt

 

lets not rush in for the first billionaire!

[Clapham Saint]

I understand where you are coming from but in the end maybe it was Barclays getting rid of the impediment. I can't think that they haven't had some sort of contact with at least one of the bids and had a pretty shrewd idea where this may end up.

 

If and it's an iffy if, the league don't have legal grounds for a points deduction and again a big if the team pulls it's collective finger out, this could turn out to be the start of a new era.

 

You may well be right.

 

However 99.99% of posters on this forum don't and never will know the full story behind what happened.

 

From the information that we have, although it will hopefully pay off it seems risky to me.

 

Of course it could also be that something new comes to light that changes that but...

[DaintyDave]

Gotta love this forum. Everyone "hears" things. Administrators have been in charge 4 days but already apparently they are giving away news of meetings with potential investors to fans on internet sites?

 

Wind in necks, stop posting ******, no-one knows a thing, as has been consistently proven over repeated waves of takeover nonsense on here.

 

Of course the administrator is at the club today, he is running it, and of course there are qualified parties looking around the club and of course they are being hosted by the administrators today, but Mark Fry / Begbies are not passing info on to people from on here, so just accept we know nothing, this could either work out great or be the death of the club, depending on whether someone can do a huge deal in super-fast time, and PLEASE can some people stop patting themselves on the back for us getting rid of Lowe and Wilde - wait until we're safe for that, otherwise the one month of Lowe-free existence will seem like a very pyrrhic victory

[ottery st mary]

I just want to be on record as the first to say this...

 

As he is meeting TODAY and made the announcement THIS MORNING

 

That means the Bidders must have come forward on

 

FRIDAY!!!!

 

Knew it all along

 

No it is definitely Wednesday.

 

COYR Win, Win and more of the same. :smt049

[John B]

See, I still dont get this. I never demanded administration, but argued that it would replace "no hope" with "some hope". And was abused for it by the likes of you. But so it has proven..........

 

Yet despite that, you still dont think you should button it, you now feel you have the right to lecture me about something else.

 

Utterly bizarre.

 

It surely depends if we have points reduced.

 

 

Administration usually means a points reduction and relegation

 

 

If we stay in the Championship then administration is a good thing but that was the reason the points reduction was introduced to stop clubs spending when they had no money

[ottery st mary]

What bolllocks, the intent of the stayaway was misguided

AND SO was Rupert on so many decisions. Look forward because you have to now BUT please do not blame the true fans..Rupert has gone forever, hopefully.

 

Saints will recover now.:smt049

[DaintyDave]

Also if there are no half-yearly financials to go off, WTF are prospective buyers being given to make a decision based off? Anyone have any ideas/thoughts?

[Judge_B]

The only people who could possibly have thought that administration was a plausable idea probably also think the best way to do a bungee is just jump and hope someone ties the other end of the rope to something when you're halfway down

[SW11_Saint]

Nothing amusing Exit2, I was saying last season that no shrewd investor or consortium would consider paying for the club when they could sit in the trees waiting for the bones of our revenue streams to picked clean.

 

The vultures have simply stopped circling and hardly surprisng Fry isn't hanging around - have you listened to his interviews? We might not make it until the end of the season without investment. Nothing to with who was in charge the same result would have happened but maybe just a bit sooner. Michael Wilde started this mess and the board sanctioning the overspending of money we couldn't afford couple that with declining revenues last season and the Lowe effect this season has just destroyed the club's finances.

 

We can blame Lowe, Crouch or Wilde but our fans simply don't want to support the team in difficult times or during a mundane season outside the premiership so god knows what they will be like when we get relegated to League 1.

Wondered when you'd raise your head above the parapet again.

 

He's f*cked up, he's gone, good riddance, you can stop defending him now. Doesn't that feel good?

[dubai_phil]

Gotta love this forum. Everyone "hears" things. Administrators have been in charge 4 days but already apparently they are giving away news of meetings with potential investors to fans on internet sites?

 

Wind in necks, stop posting ******, no-one knows a thing, as has been consistently proven over repeated waves of takeover nonsense on here.

 

Of course the administrator is at the club today, he is running it, and of course there are qualified parties looking around the club and of course they are being hosted by the administrators today, but Mark Fry / Begbies are not passing info on to people from on here, so just accept we know nothing, this could either work out great or be the death of the club, depending on whether someone can do a huge deal in super-fast time, and PLEASE can some people stop patting themselves on the back for us getting rid of Lowe and Wilde - wait until we're safe for that, otherwise the one month of Lowe-free existence will seem like a very pyrrhic victory

 

greetings seond new poster of the day.

 

You are more than correct, obviously by law, Mark Fry will not be handing out ANY information. Also once an interested party seeks to start to talk to the Administrators they will be required to sign an NDA so again they will not be talking about anything regarding the discussions.

 

However, our fan base is made up of widely diverse backgrounds locations and careers.

 

Besides normal fans this forum has it's share of plants pr's and gurus.

 

Some of those people have wide links in the business community world-wide, some are old friends of people now employed at the club, some simply know some wealthy businessmen.

 

As Tim alluded to on an old thread most Saints fans who may have something to offer have been trying in any way they could over the past days or longer. Whether it be "finding Paul Allen's phone number" to interpreting some foreign corproate structure to helping find a city lawyer not already contracted to a particular party.

 

One respected poster publicly stated that he would step back as he had been asked to help somedody putting together a bid. It is highly likely others have as well.

 

This is a good thing it means that some of the bidders may not simply be asset strippers but maybe looking to judge or continue some of the great traditions of this club. The "leaks" don't include details so far, don't include names but they are all part of one very valuable commodity right now - helping to give hope that with Lowe gone we CAN sell the club and we really DO have a future.

[ericofarabia]

I just want to be on record as the first to say this...

 

As he is meeting TODAY and made the announcement THIS MORNING

 

That means the Bidders must have come forward on

 

FRIDAY!!!!

 

Knew it all along

 

Okay maybe the first on record ......

[Micky]

"Smug" is totally the wrong word.

 

Relieved at being right

Pleased at being vinidcated

Outraged thinking back on the abuse and having our intelligence insulted.

 

Wonder if anyone will have the good grace to apologise if we get bought in the next couple of weeks....

 

Sincere apologies. Sorry, really really sorry, on my knees begging your forgiveness, bowing furiously to your unchallenged knowledge and intelligence - will never have the audacity to ever question your undoubted mastery of all situations Saints.

 

Then again - let's wait and see how administration pans out - I seem to remember we have had our fair share of false 'new dawns' - so perhaps we'll wait a couple of years to pass judgement and not claim the moral high ground after just a few hours - eh?

[alpine_saint]

Sincere apologies. Sorry, really really sorry, on my knees begging your forgiveness, bowing furiously to your unchallenged knowledge and intelligence - will never have the audacity to ever question your undoubted mastery of all situations Saints.

 

Then again - let's wait and see how administration pans out - I seem to remember we have had our fair share of false 'new dawns' - so perhaps we'll wait a couple of years to pass judgement and not claim the moral high ground after just a few hours - eh?

 

And, of course, you were NOT passing judgement when you sneered at my opinion, were you ?

[Saint Fan CaM]

Alpine is right - fact is there are some of us that realised that while administration was a terrible option to face, the club was so far gone (and in so many ways) it was the ONLY way to realistically get rid of the old guard and usher in the new. Tough pill to swallow, but sometimes the old adages of "no pain no gain" and "one step back, two steps forward" can be oh so true. Lets not gloat though Alps - now is not the time - we need to see it happen and stay in this awful division first.

[Micky]

And, of course, you were NOT passing judgement when you sneered at my opinion, were you ?

 

Yes I was passing judgement - my judgement being that you were (are) far to quick to take the moral high ground with you usual 'I told you so' attitude. Was I passing judgement - yes, HTH.

[alpine_saint]

Yes I was passing judgement - my judgement being that you were (are) far to quick to take the moral high ground with you usual 'I told you so' attitude. Was I passing judgement - yes, HTH.

 

Fine, then allow me to pass the judgement that anyone who abused their fellow posters because they were shiitting their pants at the prospect of administration whilst the others supported it was an idiot, borne out by the fact that one source is saying there are 15 parties interested in buying Saints, and another is saying 19 parties are interested.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Doesn't today's expected attendance completely give lie to that final paragraph?

 

No, the rats that started deserting the ship after Charlton's 3rd goal was more proof that a lot of fans don't understand the word support. I have huge respect for those in the Northam who waved their STs today at the 'plastics' and its not about Lowe, Wilde or Crouch its simply about buying a ticket on a regular basis to support you team. Too many have forgotten that and that is a large part why we are where we are tonight. The fans were obviously on a wave of optimism especially those returning after a self imposed absence but the players I suspect thought the same as those in the Northam. Where the f*** were you? Too little too late.

[Nineteen Canteen]

Fine, then allow me to pass the judgement that anyone who abused their fellow posters because they were shiitting their pants at the prospect of administration whilst the others supported it was an idiot, borne out by the fact that one source is saying there are 15 parties interested in buying Saints, and another is saying 19 parties are interested.

 

Alpine, only 2 are being considered as serious. I don't know what that says about the other 17 or whatever number it is but i guess it's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Any chancer with a £1 and a 'big plan' could throw their hat in the ring so I think we can say there may be 2 realistic bids and 1 I suspect we know and has a history of never being quite ready.

[Micky]

Fine, then allow me to pass the judgement that anyone who abused their fellow posters because they were shiitting their pants at the prospect of administration whilst the others supported it was an idiot, borne out by the fact that one source is saying there are 15 parties interested in buying Saints, and another is saying 19 parties are interested.

 

That may well be the case - I am unsurprised that so many people want to be associated (own even) SFC. But whether this is the success that we all want it to be remains to be seen. The speed at which you assumed the moral high ground was frightening - perhaps it is time to dismount your steed, wait to see where the club is in two years time and then you can gleefully trot out your 'I told you so' line.

 

Yes, with administration, there is a chance for us to move forward now, but equally we could simply continue to fall into oblivion.

[Micky]

Alpine, only 2 are being considered as serious. I don't know what that says about the other 17 or whatever number it is but i guess it's not exactly a ringing endorsement. Any chancer with a £1 and a 'big plan' could throw their hat in the ring so I think we can say there may be 2 realistic bids and 1 I suspect we know and has a history of never being quite ready.

 

That is what worries me to a certain extent - how many tyre kickers are in the group? It would be nice to know that we had at least half a dozen 'capable' interests at least.

[alpine_saint]

That may well be the case - I am unsurprised that so many people want to be associated (own even) SFC. But whether this is the success that we all want it to be remains to be seen. The speed at which you assumed the moral high ground was frightening - perhaps it is time to dismount your steed, wait to see where the club is in two years time and then you can gleefully trot out your 'I told you so' line.

 

Yes, with administration, there is a chance for us to move forward now, but equally we could simply continue to fall into oblivion.

 

Whereas we were guaranteed the oblivion option under Lowe.

[alpine_saint]

That is what worries me to a certain extent - how many tyre kickers are in the group? It would be nice to know that we had at least half a dozen 'capable' interests at least.

 

What sublime arrogance.

 

I couldnt give a shiiit if only one was serious, so long as he follows through.

[OldNick]

No, the rats that started deserting the ship after Charlton's 3rd goal was more proof that a lot of fans don't understand the word support. I have huge respect for those in the Northam who waved their STs today at the 'plastics' and its not about Lowe, Wilde or Crouch its simply about buying a ticket on a regular basis to support you team. Too many have forgotten that and that is a large part why we are where we are tonight. The fans were obviously on a wave of optimism especially those returning after a self imposed absence but the players I suspect thought the same as those in the Northam. Where the f*** were you? Too little too late.

I try not to criticise the fans who genuinely have not gone due to their dislike of Lowe.I dont understand it much as it is a self defeating attitude. The ones leaving early are not missed.

I arrived at the ground and heard a bloke talking on the pa system and thought oh no we;ve got the mayor or some fan pleading with fans, hw embarrassing and then was amazed to see LC on the screen with the mike.Then we had LM,(great at speaking and whipping up the masses, he is good at it) add this to knowing Askham was in the directors box and the day didnt seem as chipper as I thought it would be.

[St Marco]

I try not to criticise the fans who genuinely have not gone due to their dislike of Lowe.I dont understand it much as it is a self defeating attitude. The ones leaving early are not missed.

I arrived at the ground and heard a bloke talking on the pa system and thought oh no we;ve got the mayor or some fan pleading with fans, hw embarrassing and then was amazed to see LC on the screen with the mike.Then we had LM,(great at speaking and whipping up the masses, he is good at it) add this to knowing Askham was in the directors box and the day didnt seem as chipper as I thought it would be.

 

I saw it the other way really. I saw a sincere Saints fan who seemed a lot cooler then i would be if i lost £1.9m that week......

 

I think his standing ovation was a good touch too.

[OldNick]

I saw it the other way really. I saw a sincere Saints fan who seemed a lot cooler then i would be if i lost £1.9m that week......

 

I think his standing ovation was a good touch too.

I thought it was naff but I didnt hear it all, I was too busy passing water.

[Micky]

What sublime arrogance.

 

I couldnt give a shiiit if only one was serious, so long as he follows through.

 

Struggling with the arrogance remark, although not particularly surprised that its there.

 

I too would like a serious buyer to emerge, but surely the more (serious) parties that we have interested - the better it is for the club. It opens more doors and gives us more possibilities to get ourselves on a sure footing for the future. Remember, no so long ago we were offered the SISU deal and decided (rightly or wrongly) not to accept it. Therefore the more options that we get over the next couple of weeks - the better chance we have of survival, progression and eventual success.

 

Where arrogance fits into any of that - I am at a loss.

[Nineteen Canteen]

I try not to criticise the fans who genuinely have not gone due to their dislike of Lowe.I dont understand it much as it is a self defeating attitude. The ones leaving early are not missed.

I arrived at the ground and heard a bloke talking on the pa system and thought oh no we;ve got the mayor or some fan pleading with fans, hw embarrassing and then was amazed to see LC on the screen with the mike.Then we had LM,(great at speaking and whipping up the masses, he is good at it) add this to knowing Askham was in the directors box and the day didnt seem as chipper as I thought it would be.

 

I don't think you were alone Nick I felt pretty much the same, so much for new hope etc. The whole sorry mess has clearly affected the players not surprisingly and by Tuesday our slide though League 1 may even be sealed.

Again its no good McMenemy supporting the club when its just a question of when the life support gets turned off. He was offered the opportunity to stay involved but prefeered to get replaced by a train from the good old days.

 

Nothing to be chipper before and after? Well I decided to go away for Easter.

[Nineteen Canteen]

I thought it was naff but I didnt hear it all, I was too busy passing water.

 

Just water?!

[70's Mike]

No, the rats that started deserting the ship after Charlton's 3rd goal was more proof that a lot of fans don't understand the word support. I have huge respect for those in the Northam who waved their STs today at the 'plastics' and its not about Lowe, Wilde or Crouch its simply about buying a ticket on a regular basis to support you team. Too many have forgotten that and that is a large part why we are where we are tonight. The fans were obviously on a wave of optimism especially those returning after a self imposed absence but the players I suspect thought the same as those in the Northam. Where the f*** were you? Too little too late.

 

 

so when we beat Cardiff and Preston in front of small crowds the players liked it ?

but against Forest and today they decided we will not bother because "its to little to late"

nothing to do with Wotte tellinf everyone how much the players were up for those games

[John B]

so when we beat Cardiff and Preston in front of small crowds the players liked it ?

but against Forest and today they decided we will not bother because "its to little to late"

nothing to do with Wotte tellinf everyone how much the players were up for those games

 

I cant understand the original posting either.

 

 

I just dont think the team is good enough confident or up for it

Edited 4 April, 2009 by John B

[70's Mike]

I cant understand the original posting either.

 

 

I just dont think the team is confident or up for it

 

or good enough which is the simple fact of the matter and the real problem

[John B]

or good enough which is the simple fact of the matter and the real problem

 

Yes I missed that out originally

[tommi]

Fine, then allow me to pass the judgement that anyone who abused their fellow posters because they were shiitting their pants at the prospect of administration whilst the others supported it was an idiot, borne out by the fact that one source is saying there are 15 parties interested in buying Saints, and another is saying 19 parties are interested.

 

Are you really that stupid? There could be 400 parties interested in buying Saints but until 1, yes just 1 of them comes up trumps and actually does it (buys us) it means sweet **** all.

[tommi]

Well if Exit2, FF and Morph are posting about who the prospective buyer could be it's obviously none other than the Delboy of the South or one of his very influential friends.... who served us so well!

 

LC = nice genuine bloke, decent Saints Fan. I just hope he realises the best place for him is sat in the stands and not trying to play with big boys.

[alpine_saint]

Are you really that stupid? There could be 400 parties interested in buying Saints but until 1, yes just 1 of them comes up trumps and actually does it (buys us) it means sweet **** all.

 

Are you really that stupid ? There were 0 parties interested until Lowe piissed off.

[jimmysaint7]

Well if Exit2, FF and Morph are posting about who the prospective buyer could be it's obviously none other than the Delboy of the South or one of his very influential friends.... who served us so well!

 

LC = nice genuine bloke, decent Saints Fan. I just hope he realises the best place for him is sat in the stands and not trying to play with big boys.

 

administrator said crouch was not involved with any interest

[Nineteen Canteen]

so when we beat Cardiff and Preston in front of small crowds the players liked it ?

but against Forest and today they decided we will not bother because "its to little to late"

nothing to do with Wotte tellinf everyone how much the players were up for those games

 

Not sure if they liked it but they were employed by a company that was still in business and expected to be paid for their work, good enough or not. What would happen to anyone's work rate if they went to work to be told the company had gone bust and the future was bleak and with no g'tees?

[Nineteen Canteen]

administrator said crouch was not involved with any interest

 

If true (which I doubt) best news I've heard since last May.

[Gordon Mockles]

It's a shame that your posts while often correct manage to leave openings for you to be attacked.

 

The "fans are to blame" for not attending is a valid point - of course they deprived the club of needed revenues.

 

But the REASONS why they declined are always blurred on here - the boycott is the most often blamed.

 

But, the point that is always missed is that the majority of fans stayed away because they were FED UP paying out their money to watch garbage results. They became fed up of having the p8ss taken out of them at work after a televised game. The decisions taken with regard to the managerial structure resulted in us NOT WINNING FOOTBALL MATCHES and being an embarrassment on the television.

 

Chicken & Egg, self fulfilling

 

That is NOT a (should have kept NP type rant) it is merely observation, you pay peanuts you get monkeys, you build a Lapland in the New Forest you get a pikey rip off, you serve bad food in a restaurant you get no clients. we played bad football, the fans didn't go, we didn't earn enough revenue, the Bank said - whoa. Result

 

We're screwed unless rabbits get pulled out of hats

 

Good post! We've had better fans than the club deserve & anyone who says otherwise is a moron!!

[aintforever]

Fine, then allow me to pass the judgement that anyone who abused their fellow posters because they were shiitting their pants at the prospect of administration whilst the others supported it was an idiot, borne out by the fact that one source is saying there are 15 parties interested in buying Saints, and another is saying 19 parties are interested.

 

As it stands the club could still be ****ed, I fail to see your point.

[St_Tel49]

Struggling with the arrogance remark, although not particularly surprised that its there.

 

I too would like a serious buyer to emerge, but surely the more (serious) parties that we have interested - the better it is for the club. It opens more doors and gives us more possibilities to get ourselves on a sure footing for the future. Remember, no so long ago we were offered the SISU deal and decided (rightly or wrongly) not to accept it. Therefore the more options that we get over the next couple of weeks - the better chance we have of survival, progression and eventual success.

 

Where arrogance fits into any of that - I am at a loss.

Don't worry about it Micky - its all part of Alpine's "discussion" strategy. Within a couple of posts he starts using emotive and abusive terms and by the end of another couple of posts its interpreted as you who have been abusing him. Its like talking to a wall and even less rewarding.

[Nineteen Canteen]

**** off you ****

 

Are you upset you missed BWP's goal?

[SaintJackoInHurworth]

I don't get all the arguents on here scouring over past disagreements, but let's just leave that now can we?!!!

 

The fact is our club is at risk, but there is still hope. So let's hold on to that hope and do all we can to fan the flames of interest from those can make a genuine difference. Let's get behind all the different campaigns to save our club as best as we can, whether that be buying merchandise from the club shop, giving to support the daily cash flow of the club, becoming part fo a supporters group lobbying to raise financial support, joining a group like the 'Save our Saints' group on Facebook (http://www.facebook.com/inbox/?ref=mb#/group.php?gid=67729837464), voting in the poll to pledge financial support, suggesting ideas on this or other forums...etc.

 

Together, maybe, just maybe... we can see our club rescued and able to fight another day!!!

 

COYR!!