Idea for the ticket office.

[Wes Tender]

I can't believe how little effort the club seems to be making to solicit donations. We go out of business in 3 weeks unless we can find half a million quid down the back of the sofa, but looking at the OS, you would hardly know there's even a problem.

 

For example:

 

- No flash on the landing page saying that the club is accepting donations and how to do it if you want to (e.g. linking to an online payment system or at least a phone number)

- No big or visible link on the homepage saying the same thing

- Nothing in the navigation

- No post on here

- No email sent to their database

 

etc etc

 

It really doesn't take that long to do this stuff. One day max. if they put their minds to it.

 

Get your finger out boys, the clock is ticking

 

Again, I'm bumping this thread as there continues to be some good ideas coming from it. Anybody else believe that we ought to make it a sticky under the revised name of "Good ideas for the club to raise funds", or some such?

 

As Ken Tone says, there should be some regular communication between us and the club and the administrator to see whether some of these ideas/suggestions are viable and whether they should be implimented.

[paulwantsapint]

Quote:

Originally Posted by paulwantsapint

Is it poss to get a couple of legends teams to play or legends v current team

then could have auction for shirts & kit, special bets fines for fans not in red & white / away shirts

ie

KD / Niemi gloves

MLT boots

Benali card ( lets face it he would get 1 )

Claus mask ( from broken cheek bone )

Killer knee ( must have a spare )

ect

bets

time of 1st goal

score

time certain players last

amount of passes by certain players

ect

 

This is currently being arranged by a Saints fan who has appeared on a channel 4 reality TV show and done a few other bits of radio and tv work.

 

All i can say at this time is that the legends have been contacted and are in the process of sorting out celebrities to play in the game.

 

I believe Eastleigh have agreed in princible to hold the game but still to hear back from SFC about it taking place at St Marys Stadium.

 

This is all i know at this time but once venue and date is sorted i will post on hear and hope as many as you can make it. Will be auctioning of a place in the team etc...............

 

 

Now the club need to pull their finger out & get SMS ready for this life saving match

[Amesbury Saint]

there are 200,000 people on the clubs database.

 

If 50% purchased a virtual ticket at £20 = £2m

 

Would make a big dent in the overdraft.

 

Come on ticket office lets be able to but a ticket for the biggest match of the season "Save our Saints"

[Midfield_General]

Again, I'm bumping this thread as there continues to be some good ideas coming from it. Anybody else believe that we ought to make it a sticky under the revised name of "Good ideas for the club to raise funds", or some such?

 

As Ken Tone says, there should be some regular communication between us and the club and the administrator to see whether some of these ideas/suggestions are viable and whether they should be implimented.

 

Yep. Mods?

[ooohTerryHurlock]

I can't believe how little effort the club seems to be making to solicit donations. We go out of business in 3 weeks unless we can find half a million quid down the back of the sofa, but looking at the OS, you would hardly know there's even a problem.

 

For example:

 

- No flash on the landing page saying that the club is accepting donations and how to do it if you want to (e.g. linking to an online payment system or at least a phone number)

- No big or visible link on the homepage saying the same thing

- Nothing in the navigation

- No post on here

- No email sent to their database

 

etc etc

 

It really doesn't take that long to do this stuff. One day max. if they put their minds to it.

 

Get your finger out boys, the clock is ticking

 

.... But there was time for this at 8.30am yesterday:-

 

Dear "OTH"

 

someone bought to my attention this weekend the number of posts you make with regards to me. I would guess at some point i must have done something to upset you.

 

Please feel free to call me on 02380 71913, or [number removed] or even email me at dluker@saintsfc.co.uk

 

I think i need to clarify what my role at the club actually is for you

 

best wishes

 

David

 

I have emailed him to let him know that I will take him up on the offer of the chat, and it was obviously reassuring that what gets written on here feeds it way back to the club - but honestly is there nothing better to do at the moment? One of my questions that I will put to DL is why are the club so slow to act on the numerous good suggestions that are floated on here - from his notification to me it is obvious that they do keep an eye on what is written on the forum - I eagerly await the discussion!

 

... By the way i have never met the guy and he has never done me any disservice and from what some have written I understand he is a nice guy, all I have done is questioned his focus and his drive (as also with Leighton Mitchell and also Mark Long... in fact the whole team working under RL and also MW) but his email on monday has done little to change my opinion but I am open minded enough to be convinced otherwise.

[Wes Tender]

Bump. I see that OTH has posted a separate thread to re-focus attention to this, but that hasn't been made a sticky either.

 

Obviously the Mods don't think that ideas on saving the club rate very highly in the scheme of things...

[AK]

A simple idea might be to put up the ticket details for Monday's match on the OS.

 

If they are there i can't find them.

[Bartosz Bialkowski]

.... But there was time for this at 8.30am yesterday:-

 

Dear "OTH"

 

someone bought to my attention this weekend the number of posts you make with regards to me. I would guess at some point i must have done something to upset you.

 

Please feel free to call me on 02380 71913, or [number removed] or even email me at dluker@saintsfc.co.uk

 

I think i need to clarify what my role at the club actually is for you

 

best wishes

 

David

 

I have emailed him to let him know that I will take him up on the offer of the chat, and it was obviously reassuring that what gets written on here feeds it way back to the club - but honestly is there nothing better to do at the moment? One of my questions that I will put to DL is why are the club so slow to act on the numerous good suggestions that are floated on here - from his notification to me it is obvious that they do keep an eye on what is written on the forum - I eagerly await the discussion!

 

... By the way i have never met the guy and he has never done me any disservice and from what some have written I understand he is a nice guy, all I have done is questioned his focus and his drive (as also with Leighton Mitchell and also Mark Long... in fact the whole team working under RL and also MW) but his email on monday has done little to change my opinion but I am open minded enough to be convinced otherwise.

 

Nice of you to post his mobile number

[arfurdent]

Can we not get back to the more serious issue of Lucy Pinder walking about with he nipples poking out.

 

pay once per nipple, works for me

[Saints67]

A simple idea might be to put up the ticket details for Monday's match on the OS.

 

If they are there i can't find them.

 

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/tickets/?page_id=3

 

scroll about 2/3rds way down page.

[AK]

http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/tickets/?page_id=3

 

scroll about 2/3rds way down page.

 

The only reason it's there now is that I pointed out to the ticket office that they were missing, fair play to them adding it back so quickly.

[MarkSFC]

Great Idea - Its just amazing that the first two games after going into admin are two of just four games this season that were marketed to encourage people to come back to football - too little to late!.

 

I'm a ST holder and would happily rip it up and buy again, but I think we do need to look at David Luker'srole in all this - seriousily we have been trotting out ideas all season on this forum and practically doing the blokes job for him. What salary is he on and does anyone know if he is deffering anypart of it?? I'm not proposing a witch hunt but even in admin all we have come up with officially is send a cheque in to the ticket office. Personally there is massive ammounts of good will out there and I like hundreds/thousands more will be happy to donate to Save our Club and pretty much do anything I can without any gaurantees but Blindly sending money to the ticket office without any clear view on the direction we are taking should be viewed with a little bit of caution. The club can raise a lot of money in a short space of time but this money needs to be channeled and used wisely.

 

The virtual ticket is a brilliant idea and its great to see the positive respones. I am also concerned with Dave Lukers performance in his role. Positive radical action was needed in January at the latest, but any suggestions for reducing ticket prices were met with "season ticket holders wouldnt welcome this or would want money back" type of responses.

The posts on here and the reality is that season ticket fans in the main would not have worried one iota if prices were as Charlton.......for most "the experience" is the main attraction for going to games and the atmosphere generated by 25K + is (usually!) far superior to that of 15K!!

It may also of helped the (freezing-performance wise) players - Im thinking Forest as well - to actually get used to larger crowds and perform.

The "CLUB" have missed so many opportunities!!!!!!!:smt115

[Neil]

Just a thought - Hampshire Senior Cup Final is Thursday 30 April at SMS - VT (Sholing based) v Fleet Town.

Could Saints boost the crowd and income for this with a bit of marketing, and sell tickets in advance to get a bit of cashflow? Imagine there are Hampshire FA regs on min/max ticket prices etc, but could be worth exploring as every bit helps, and as there is a game scheduled we may as well make the most of it.

[stevegrant]

The virtual ticket is a brilliant idea and its great to see the positive respones. I am also concerned with Dave Lukers performance in his role. Positive radical action was needed in January at the latest, but any suggestions for reducing ticket prices were met with "season ticket holders wouldnt welcome this or would want money back" type of responses.

The posts on here and the reality is that season ticket fans in the main would not have worried one iota if prices were as Charlton.......for most "the experience" is the main attraction for going to games and the atmosphere generated by 25K + is (usually!) far superior to that of 15K!!

It may also of helped the (freezing-performance wise) players - Im thinking Forest as well - to actually get used to larger crowds and perform.

The "CLUB" have missed so many opportunities!!!!!!!:smt115

I'd disagree.

 

If the club decided in January that they were cutting prices for ALL games for the second half of the season to £15, many season ticket holders would have been ****ed off - myself included - as the cost-per-game of a season ticket would then actually have been MORE than buying on a per-game basis (it's currently just over £16 per game based on the March Madness renewal price of £380).

 

While I understand and appreciate the financial position of needing to get as much cash in as possible, there were very few "public" signs of the severity of the situation to the average fan, particularly given that we didn't sell a single player in the transfer window.

 

Perhaps they could have done the £15 deal for a couple more games, but any more than that could have had a longer-term effect, not just in terms of season ticket sales but also with matchday sales as well. Just because tickets are suddenly cheaper every game, that doesn't mean people are automatically going to return in their droves and, more importantly, attend on a regular basis.

 

As a slightly long-winded example:

 

Current price £24, averaging 7k matchday sales = £168k per match

x 23 home games per season = £3.864m

 

Club tries to stimulate attendances by dropping the prices for the following season across the board to £15, which brings 17k matchday sales for the first 5 games = £255k per match = £1.275m, but the football on show is crap, people are ****ed off, etc, so despite the price drop, people can't be arsed to pay to watch a crap team, so the attendances fall away again. The next 5 games drops to 13k matchday sales = £195k per match = £975k, and then the remaining 13 matches average 10k matchday sales = £150k per match = £1.95m.

 

While the matchday sales have increased by £400k over the course of a season, the club has had to reduce the cost of a season ticket in line with the matchday price reduction. Therefore instead of getting 10,000 season ticket holders at £350 (£3.5m), they're getting 10,000 at £250 (£2.5m), so they end up losing out overall.

[MarkSFC]

I'd disagree.

 

If the club decided in January that they were cutting prices for ALL games for the second half of the season to £15, many season ticket holders would have been ****ed off - myself included - as the cost-per-game of a season ticket would then actually have been MORE than buying on a per-game basis (it's currently just over £16 per game based on the March Madness renewal price of £380).

 

While I understand and appreciate the financial position of needing to get as much cash in as possible, there were very few "public" signs of the severity of the situation to the average fan, particularly given that we didn't sell a single player in the transfer window.

 

Perhaps they could have done the £15 deal for a couple more games, but any more than that could have had a longer-term effect, not just in terms of season ticket sales but also with matchday sales as well. Just because tickets are suddenly cheaper every game, that doesn't mean people are automatically going to return in their droves and, more importantly, attend on a regular basis.

 

As a slightly long-winded example:

 

Current price £24, averaging 7k matchday sales = £168k per match

x 23 home games per season = £3.864m

 

Club tries to stimulate attendances by dropping the prices for the following season across the board to £15, which brings 17k matchday sales for the first 5 games = £255k per match = £1.275m, but the football on show is crap, people are ****ed off, etc, so despite the price drop, people can't be arsed to pay to watch a crap team, so the attendances fall away again. The next 5 games drops to 13k matchday sales = £195k per match = £975k, and then the remaining 13 matches average 10k matchday sales = £150k per match = £1.95m.

 

 

While the matchday sales have increased by £400k over the course of a season, the club has had to reduce the cost of a season ticket in line with the matchday price reduction. Therefore instead of getting 10,000 season ticket holders at £350 (£3.5m), they're getting 10,000 at £250 (£2.5m), so they end up losing out overall.

 

 

Steve..good point well made. I agree £15 for too long wouldnt necessarily have benefited. My main point really is that they did far too little far too late!

[Kaiser Soze]

I completely disagree.

 

Why would you pay £60 to watch 90 mins of effortless dross? In years of supporting Saints, like many others, I have spent thousands and thousands so I don't see why we should feel obligated to plough more money into the football club, all due to p1sspoor management.

 

The Club should be doing more for the fans, rather than crying out for more handouts. We've done enough, it's about time they gave something back. Run concerts, training camps etc etc, but asking fans to pay double for a game is nothing short of a bloody cheek.

 

Que abuse...

[Alain Perrin]

I completely disagree.

 

Why would you pay £60 to watch 90 mins of effortless dross? In years of supporting Saints, like many others, I have spent thousands and thousands so I don't see why we should feel obligated to plough more money into the football club, all due to p1sspoor management.

 

The Club should be doing more for the fans, rather than crying out for more handouts. We've done enough, it's about time they gave something back. Run concerts, training camps etc etc, but asking fans to pay double for a game is nothing short of a bloody cheek.

 

Que abuse...

 

Three points:

 

1) I don't think this is a thread should be used for attacks on David Luker, it is about doing positive things for Saints. I would suggest that David's role isn't as proxy fundraiser and I am sure he's got other things to do to make sure Saints runs efficiently.

2) ... But someone at the club needs to raise the profile of fundraising.

3) I still think the virtual ticket has legs (I would say that) as it is a tangible thing, rather than a money black hole.

4) His mobile number should be removed pronto.

5) The point about the fundraising is that it is optional. Cutting prices / increasing prices is fraught with problems. If you want to save Saints (and can afford to do so) Saints should be making it as easy as possible to donate.

 

Ok, so that's five points, but you get my drift.

[Iowsaintsfan]

final day of the season show our game against forest on the big screens? no real cost to SFC and a way to make a few easy quid?

[Papa Shango]

Another good idea floating around this forum. Also it would only be like paying for a premiership game these days and I'm sure most of us would still be paying premiership prices if we were still in that league.

 

But we're not playing in the Premiership, we'll be in League 1 next season. The above post from Kaiser Soze is spot on. It's disgusting that fans who have already put thousands into the club over the years are being asked to put more money into the club because of the boards f*ck ups.

[Mustapha Fag]

thing is how many people would be put off due to money constraints at this time?

 

Theres a lot of unemployment out there, not everyone will be able to afford to pay double and if they feel pressured into paying it they may well just stay away

[Toadhall Saint]

If Saints went with the idea I'd pay - but it should be optional - like actually attending games - its optional. I hear what people are saying re paying thousands over the years but this is the here and now.

[SaintRobbie]

Students/OAPs for £1?

[Jonnyboy]

On the subject of the ticket office,

 

The OS says buying a shirt gets you a ticket for the home games this season.

 

Anyone know how much a shirt is in there these days?? Cheers

[ooohTerryHurlock]

Three points:

 

1) I don't think this is a thread should be used for attacks on David Luker, it is about doing positive things for Saints. I would suggest that David's role isn't as proxy fundraiser and I am sure he's got other things to do to make sure Saints runs efficiently.

2) ... But someone at the club needs to raise the profile of fundraising.

3) I still think the virtual ticket has legs (I would say that) as it is a tangible thing, rather than a money black hole.

4) His mobile number should be removed pronto.

5) The point about the fundraising is that it is optional. Cutting prices / increasing prices is fraught with problems. If you want to save Saints (and can afford to do so) Saints should be making it as easy as possible to donate.

 

Ok, so that's five points, but you get my drift.

 

 

I phoned Mr Luker today to have our chat. TBF found him a nice chap and probably appreciated much more the predicament they are in. I think there hands are pretty much tied with regard to the fundraising due to the football league enquiry. A lot of red tape I guess - he left me with the quote that the best way people can help at the moment is by BUYING A TICKET! It appears from the conversation that they are understaffed and doing the best they can in the circumstances - but until the league situation clears itself the fundraising stuff is on the back foot. With regard to auctioning the shirts from the games it appears they simply do not have enough stock!

Anyway with regard to his article in January it was pretty much the case that we were somewhat mis informed as to how bad the picture really was - however I did point out that this was in stark contradiction to MW programme notes at the Cardiff game that stated we were having very constructive discussions with our backers - but some four or five weeks later we have gone pop on an overdraft facility that is £100K over limit but some £2million less than at the start of the season - very strange.

 

Mr Luker and I talked for half an hour at length - and I apologised for some of the critisium I levelled at him and appreciate now that he probably isn't as influential as I thought him to be. However I still think some of the decisions made and the plans of action that have been followed are shocking to say the least.

[derry]

One thing to remember with all this, a lot of people are buying extra tickets, I picked up 3 today. To double the cost for people buying extra tickets would in some cases be counter productive, They wouldn't buy them.

[Amesbury Saint]

One thing to remember with all this, a lot of people are buying extra tickets, I picked up 3 today. To double the cost for people buying extra tickets would in some cases be counter productive, They wouldn't buy them.

 

thats why we should have a virtual match to buy a ticket for, with a range of prices.

[Amesbury Saint]

thats why we should have a virtual match to buy a ticket for, with a range of prices.

 

and with 200,000 on the database, if we could sell 100,000 at £20 Barcalys would be smiling!

[derry]

thats why we should have a virtual match to buy a ticket for, with a range of prices.

 

Have a real extra match at the end of the season, maybe past v present be much more interesting.

[Amesbury Saint]

Have a real extra match at the end of the season, maybe past v present be much more interesting.

 

but does that not over complicate things - having to open the ground, stewards etc.

 

perhaps it could be a subeuto (sp?) match between MLT and BT?

[derry]

but does that not over complicate things - having to open the ground, stewards etc.

 

perhaps it could be a subeuto (sp?) match between MLT and BT?

 

I understand where you are coming from, but filling the ground hypothetically on a something for nothing basis might turn more people off than the cost of playing a match of some sort. I think that may well remain hypothetical.

[Amesbury Saint]

I understand where you are coming from, but filling the ground hypothetically on a something for nothing basis might turn more people off than the cost of playing a match of some sort. I think that may well remain hypothetical.

 

do both then!

[Saint_clark]

I've got a season ticket, but even if the ticket office don't go for this i'll donate the price of a ticket anyway.

[ooohTerryHurlock]

Nice of you to post his mobile number

 

I think its his work one = he had never met me and was happy for me to call him on it so can't see the problem with it

[ooohTerryHurlock]

thats why we should have a virtual match to buy a ticket for, with a range of prices.

 

... This is something Dave Luker and I talked about - I think is a fab idea and he said he thought it was a good idea but there are a lot of Logistical reasons why it can't be done - and also the situation with this audit seam to be holding us up. I think the idea of having a ticket sent out that says you were there is a great idea - especially if you are a far way saint in oz or America - but to be honest I was pretty much left with the impression they could n't even afford the stamp! He said the franking machine was broken and they can't even afford to get it fixed - things are very desperate, very depressing really.

[Amesbury Saint]

... This is something Dave Luker and I talked about - I think is a fab idea and he said he thought it was a good idea but there are a lot of Logistical reasons why it can't be done - and also the situation with this audit seam to be holding us up. I think the idea of having a ticket sent out that says you were there is a great idea - especially if you are a far way saint in oz or America - but to be honest I was pretty much left with the impression they could n't even afford the stamp! He said the franking machine was broken and they can't even afford to get it fixed - things are very desperate, very depressing really.

 

shame really

 

They could use the online ticket site so except for the stamp and envolope its all profit.

[ooohTerryHurlock]

shame really

 

They could use the online ticket site so except for the stamp and envolope its all profit.

 

I think its a shame cause it was a cracking idea for faraway saints - Its a shame a lot of the ideas are not being utalised.

[Toadhall Saint]

Please don't tell me that the only reason this hasn't got legs is because of a broken franking machine.

[Amesbury Saint]

I think its a shame cause it was a cracking idea for faraway saints - Its a shame a lot of the ideas are not being utalised.

 

With any fundraising activity there is a balance between spending huge amounts of time on an event for little reward. However, selling tickets online for the match of our lives "SAVE our SAINTS" has lots of benefits

 

- low cost to set up - uses existing online shop and processes

- does not involve the actual cost of staging a match.

- could link with the e news they send out

-club has 200,000 on database to market to

- for fans who live away / overseas they can contribute

- a range of prices (link a normal match) can be charged so suitable for all fans

- also allows the club to review the database between "warm" contacts and "cold" contacts, and archieve old contacts

- basis of marking next years ST and members to wam contacts

[Leicestersaint]

I think the story of the franking machine sums it up - the current set up seems devoid of urgency, initiative, energy or general gumption.

 

This is a great idea so let's give it a go.

[Charlie Wayman]

Another Idea.

 

Screen all our remaining away games on the SMS screens and let fans attend as for a normal match paying normal ticket prices... like a cup game, you'd get your own seat but you'd have to pay for it?

[brmbrm]

Can we not get back to the more serious issue of Lucy Pinder walking about with he nipples poking out.

 

pay once per nipple, works for me

 

Mate, they aren't "he" nipples. They are "she" nipples. Haven't seen as many in my life as perhaps i would like, but take it from me, they are definitely "she".

[Wilko]

Where will the money ultimately go?

 

I'm not being negative, but is making small donations like this going to help with the bigger picture? I don't really understand what happens during administration.

[SFC Forever]

Why don't we simply have an end of season friendly. Even a saints v Pompey game. Anything to fill the ground for one more time. Plenty of players would volenteer I'm sure.

[Hemel Saint]

Forest Away could be a do-or-die game for both sides.

 

A thought on a way to help raise ticket sales for our last game at SMS...

 

Priority for getting Forest away tickets...

1) the obviously priority is for Season Ticket holders get their stab at buying these tickets first.

2) Second preference will then go to members that also buy a dual-ticket that also includes a ticket for the last home game as well.

3) 3rd Priority will be for non-members who also get a shout at the dual-ticket scheme too.

4) The final call is then fans wanting to buy tickets for the Forest game only!!

 

It might be a tad complicated to administer for the Club, and there will always be people who will feel hard done by, but in these desperate times it may be worth a shout!

 

It just might get a few hundred more into the last game....at £25 each!!!!

 

.

[Mole]

there are 200,000 people on the clubs database.

 

If 50% purchased a virtual ticket at £20 = £2m

 

Would make a big dent in the overdraft.

 

Come on ticket office lets be able to but a ticket for the biggest match of the season "Save our Saints"

 

Sorry, but LOL.

[surrey1saint]

I'd be up for this.

[Mole]

PAY DOUBLE is a great idea IF the stadium if full.

 

It's far from it. So rather than pay double, why not buy an extra ticket, or more, and give them away?

 

Same money for the club, fewer empty seats in the ground.

 

I'd be willing to help out by accepting a free ticket.

[SP Saint]

Why not simply have a sale to get rid of the remaining tickets? Reduce the price and have a sell out.

 

The megastore cuts prices on shirts and no-one complains. Ryanair etc do it with airline tickets.

 

Come on ticket office - just do it and do it now.

[OldNick]

Why not simply have a sale to get rid of the remaining tickets? Reduce the price and have a sell out.

 

The megastore cuts prices on shirts and no-one complains. Ryanair etc do it with airline tickets.

 

Come on ticket office - just do it and do it now.

I agree even if they cut the price for walk ups

[lenwilkins]

Why not simply have a sale to get rid of the remaining tickets? Reduce the price and have a sell out.

 

The megastore cuts prices on shirts and no-one complains. Ryanair etc do it with airline tickets.

 

Come on ticket office - just do it and do it now.

 

Yes, now is the time for David Luker and the guys to do something innovative. If they don't react to changing circumstances and remain stuck in their old ways, people at SMS could be out of work shortly.

 

Help us to help you! Cut the prices for Burnley from now, including walk ups. Get the extra revenue from ticket sales plus food and drink etc and help create a great atmosphere for the players.

 

(I don't suppose anyone from the club reads this do they or is there a 'Ticket Office' user?)