saints_is_the_south Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 So far 355 people have pledged to donate a total of approx £705k - A pretty incredible total considering this iniative was only launced just over 24 hours ago. I was thinking, to get these ideas more wide spread what about distributing leaflets at the stadium detailing the ideas? These could also be left in pubs, shops...etc around the city. If contact details were left on them then people who wanted to help would be able to get in touch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 This is the Mark representing the consortium that I spoke to, but it now looks like an attempt to highjack the site's initiative. I personally explained that a trust was the way to go and no money taken until everything in place legally and protected. In no way would I support an open ended company capitalised by the public but run by an unelected few. For me it's a properly set up trust fund or nothing. I may well walk away from this one now. Don't walk away mate you are doing a good job - get the other thread locked for the time being. Keep plugging away with the administrator you are on the right lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Don't walk away mate you are doing a good job - get the other thread locked for the time being. Keep plugging away with the administrator you are on the right lines. +1. Don't give up on this now, you've done a lot of hard work already. Keep going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2009 So far 355 people have pledged to donate a total of approx £705k - A pretty incredible total considering this iniative was only launced just over 24 hours ago. I was thinking, to get these ideas more wide spread what about distributing leaflets at the stadium detailing the ideas? These could also be left in pubs, shops...etc around the city. If contact details were left on them then people who wanted to help would be able to get in touch. The next step has to be going back to the Administrator and arranging to talk to the bank about setting up a trust account which would be inaccessible to individuals until the required sum was reached. At the same time talking to the lawyers and setting up a trust and constitution with temporary trustees pending proper democratic elections. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lordswoodsaints Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 the truth is i would put nothing in......i have in my 42 years contributed more than enough,i have paid to watch thousands of games home and away,a couple of trips to europe,a few grand on merchandise,a paving stone,refreshments for me and the kids,the list could go on and on..........its about time they learned to stand on their own two feet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2009 the truth is i would put nothing in......i have in my 42 years contributed more than enough,i have paid to watch thousands of games home and away,a couple of trips to europe,a few grand on merchandise,a paving stone,refreshments for me and the kids,the list could go on and on..........its about time they learned to stand on their own two feet. To tell the truth , that's how I feel but doing nothing isn't an option I can live with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 People should just wait till there's credence to this Save Our Saints, when it hits the media and takes off I'm sure everything will be clearer. Things can get so misconstrued on a fans forum. Let's wait and see what happens eh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintalan Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 This is the Mark representing the consortium that I spoke to, but it now looks like an attempt to highjack the site's initiative. I personally explained that a trust was the way to go and no money taken until everything in place legally and protected. In no way would I support an open ended company capitalised by the public but run by an unelected few. For me it's a properly set up trust fund or nothing. I may well walk away from this one now. What did I miss? I thought there was outline agreement. I really hope we are not going to have a war between different groups basically aiming for the same thing. As Obama said today "It's a time for unprecedented co-operation" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ooohTerryHurlock Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 the truth is i would put nothing in......i have in my 42 years contributed more than enough,i have paid to watch thousands? of games home and away,a couple of trips to europe,a few grand on merchandise,a paving stone,refreshments for me and the kids,the list could go on and on..........its about time they learned to stand on their own two feet. ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkSFC Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Lets put this to bed now... the thread quoting a company being set up has come from a facebook message and is an error on my part. "group" should hsve been used. I am totally and utterly genuine in everything I am doing in order to SAVE OUR SAINTS. There is no motive other than to form a fan based trust/foundation/co-operative or whatever is best in order to raise funds and be a completely democratic operation run for the fans of Southampton Football Club BY the fans of Southampton Football Club. The email address is purely for contact and is not linked to SAVEORSAINTS other than I set it up a few weeks ago when discussions (particularly around our name) were ongoing. Its dissappointing that some fans feel it neccessary to doubt but I totally understand your caution. I promise everyone that I am doing everything possible to genuinely make this happen. The administrator (Mark Fry) put me in touch with "derry" this morning and this is how I have come to join this forum. The poll being run is great and has backed up my belief that Saints fans will dig deep to support this initiative. I have already recieved many emails of support, please keep them coming!! Until next week...heres to 3 points tomorrow! MSFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2009 The simple fact is that we have better than £1/2m already pledged, Myself, Weston and Duncan Holley are meeting tomorrow, there are already confidential contacts with other interested parties, as long as this doesn't turn into a buggers muddle, it has the approval of the administrator who wants us to continue and provided we don't end up with a load of half baked initiatives, it could back things up in the event of no bid or an underfunded credible bid. Either way I don't want to see the club collapse, and see the ideal solution a credible accepted bid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_Ash Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Lets put this to bed now... the thread quoting a company being set up has come from a facebook message and is an error on my part. "group" should hsve been used. I am totally and utterly genuine in everything I am doing in order to SAVE OUR SAINTS. There is no motive other than to form a fan based trust/foundation/co-operative or whatever is best in order to raise funds and be a completely democratic operation run for the fans of Southampton Football Club BY the fans of Southampton Football Club. The email address is purely for contact and is not linked to SAVEORSAINTS other than I set it up a few weeks ago when discussions (particularly around our name) were ongoing. Its dissappointing that some fans feel it neccessary to doubt but I totally understand your caution. I promise everyone that I am doing everything possible to genuinely make this happen. The administrator (Mark Fry) put me in touch with "derry" this morning and this is how I have come to join this forum. The poll being run is great and has backed up my belief that Saints fans will dig deep to support this initiative. I have already recieved many emails of support, please keep them coming!! Until next week...heres to 3 points tomorrow! MSFC Well said, you have to make yourself very clear on this site or people will pick it to bits. People also need to realise that this thread is what people hypothetically would pledge to help saints nothing more than that really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Lets put this to bed now... the thread quoting a company being set up has come from a facebook message and is an error on my part. "group" should hsve been used. I am totally and utterly genuine in everything I am doing in order to SAVE OUR SAINTS. There is no motive other than to form a fan based trust/foundation/co-operative or whatever is best in order to raise funds and be a completely democratic operation run for the fans of Southampton Football Club BY the fans of Southampton Football Club. The email address is purely for contact and is not linked to SAVEORSAINTS other than I set it up a few weeks ago when discussions (particularly around our name) were ongoing. Its dissappointing that some fans feel it neccessary to doubt but I totally understand your caution. I promise everyone that I am doing everything possible to genuinely make this happen. The administrator (Mark Fry) put me in touch with "derry" this morning and this is how I have come to join this forum. The poll being run is great and has backed up my belief that Saints fans will dig deep to support this initiative. I have already recieved many emails of support, please keep them coming!! Until next week...heres to 3 points tomorrow! MSFC There is no point in having multiple organisations. There is only one aim, save the club from extinction. To that end all initiatives should be drawn together into one appeal/trust/effort. The way forward is working together or really facing multiple failures. But any initiative has to have a sound basis and be trusted by those who pledge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Derry sounds as though he can take this move on. Others have helped by offering their knowledge(legal) and time. We need to broadcast this once, we have agreed exactly what we are going to try to do. If other groups are trying to upstage us they will very quickly be found out. We simply need to be able to put our position forward in a manner that can be easily read, understood and appreciated. The marches received publicity and they had a far less inspiring reason then than the one we have now. Our ship has been holed and we could be the ballast to keep it afloat. However we do need people from outside this forum and a lot of them to get anywhere near to our target. Let's get our message across once we know exactly what we intend to do. LET US PERSUADE THE DOUBTERS BY PUTTING A COMPLETE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF THEM. SHOW THAT WE ARE NOT JUST A FORUM THAT FIGHTS AND BICKERS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Not a good time for me as were going on short working week as of next week, but could probably cobble together a couple of hundred for the cause. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 3 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 April, 2009 (edited) Derry sounds as though he can take this move on. Others have helped by offering their knowledge(legal) and time. We need to broadcast this once, we have agreed exactly what we are going to try to do. If other groups are trying to upstage us they will very quickly be found out. We simply need to be able to put our position forward in a manner that can be easily read, understood and appreciated. The marches received publicity and they had a far less inspiring reason then than the one we have now. Our ship has been holed and we could be the ballast to keep it afloat. However we do need people from outside this forum and a lot of them to get anywhere near to our target. Let's get our message across once we know exactly what we intend to do. LET US PERSUADE THE DOUBTERS BY PUTTING A COMPLETE PACKAGE IN FRONT OF THEM. SHOW THAT WE ARE NOT JUST A FORUM THAT FIGHTS AND BICKERS. The infrastructure and legal framework has to be in place or there is nowhere to collect the money if needed. Leaping in and firing all the publicity up whilst having no infrastructure in place is asking for chaos and the collapse of any momentum, when people ask where and how do I pay the money and have no means to pay cheque/transfer/credit/debit. More importantly who has access and how secure is the account. In any event we need to know whether there are credible and viable bids for the club. The Administrator has agreed to keep me updated. Edited 3 April, 2009 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 To everyone who pledged their time and expertise, may I suggest that you email me at saintsfansconsortium@yahoo.com stating what you have to offer?! It will be easier to have this info in one place should we need to call upon you. At the moment we have a group of people well placed to make this happen. There will no doubt be times when others will be needed!!! Spread the word, keep the faith and SAVE OUR SAINTS Mark, delighted to see such a move. I have already sent a PM to Derry, he has my contact details. I run my own small company, have business experience and a few qualifications. I have already spent (lost) money buying shares so would be happy to part of anything that is viable and run correctly with Saints best interest at the heart. I am a fan of some 40+ years, a season ticket holder for some 30 years; have travelled the country indeed Europe watchin Saints - just for the record if there any sad b£$%^%$s out there doubting the good intentions of those on this thread! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Derry/Mark, IF the fans did put together enough serious cash to save the club and clear debts, what would then happen from there? For example, maintaining the club by paying wages/paying ground staff/making us competitive on the pitch etc. Surely this would need an investor(s)? Great work by the way guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 The infrastructure and legal framework has to be in place or there is nowhere to collect the money if needed. . You may want to look at forming a community interest company http://www.cicregulator.gov.uk/index.shtml "Community Interest Companies (CICS) are limited companies, with special additional features, created for the use of people who want to conduct a business or other activity for community benefit, and not purely for private advantage. This is achieved by a "community interest test" and "asset lock", which ensure that the CIC is established for community purposes and the assets and profits are dedicated to these purposes. Registration of a company as a CIC has to be approved by the Regulator who also has a continuing monitoring and enforcement role" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Just seen something very interesting. Comes from the sun online I am told CRAIG DAVID has emerged as a shock contender to save Southampton from going out of business. The 27-year-old pop star is a huge Saints fan and has followed their rise and fall since he was a boy. He has expressed his shock at seeing the club he supports formally put up for sale after its parent company called in administrators to rescue the Championship strugglers. Half a dozen parties have shown an interest in trying to prevent the South Coast side from folding. And now R&B singer-songwriter David has vowed to lend his support to the cause, calling on serious backers to ‘fill me in’. The ‘Born To Do It’ star said: “I’ve been a big Saints supporter since I was five and like most kids dreamed of one day running out of the tunnel at the old Dell in red and white stripes! "The club is too important to me and the people of Southampton in general to be in this kind of mess, so it’s vital that we all do what we can to help. "I’m currently on tour in Japan otherwise I’d definitely be showing my support on the terraces at St Mary's tomorrow for the Charlton game. "But I am happy to help out in any way I can and if anybody is thinking of starting a campaign or a consortium to save the club, count me in and get in touch!”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Let me say that I have contacts with many sources relating to SFC. When "Derry" asked me to assist him I emailed those sources explaining the situation and asking that they not email me with information further as it might be seen as a conflict of interest. From my point of view I want to see SFC continue. I want to see a viable group takeover the running of SFC. I see what we are trying to achieve is a back up if all else fails. "Derry" already knows my diary is pretty full for the next two critical weeks but I will support him and the Save our Saints Group as best I can. Come on you red & whites (why do some say come on you reds? We are Red & White - Lifes blood) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Can we have one of those things on the site that add up all the monies pledged so far so dont have to keep adding it up. I too can help with any administrative work required, experienced pa and good arranging and minuting muinutes.Jan, I think you have much to offer. I will speak to "Derry" tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithinoz Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Read the 'appeal' on OS. They (Crouch, Richards) appear to be asking for cash handouts. Administration is a disaster, but not a natural disaster like the recent bushfires in my backyard. I want something for my money - i want to guarantee administration won't happen again. The trust plans described on this thread appear to me to be far more palatable in that we're getting some kind of democratic process and each of us become small owners with the related ownership rights (agm, voting, etc) & we, like minded people can therefore avoid any further Lowe-type fiasco's that threaten to drive 'our' club out of business. However, We need to act fast otherwise the appeal will take money that could otherwise be used by the trust. Who's going to do it?, who's going to stand up & be counted?, Keith?, Illingsworth? (he's always been a true die hard fan whatever people's personal opinions of him). Someone - please ???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Keithinoz Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Apologies for my previous thread. I'm covering old ground - went to bed, got back up, forgot the time difference. I'm coming home in September after 16 years away & I just want to go see my team again. (last game 1-3 at home to Oldham, Benali scored a screamer of an OG). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Fat Controller Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 (edited) there is 200,00 on the database... ok if 100.000 donated £50 as a token gesture/bond then that would clear barclays off of overdraft. Not everyone can afford a grand, some may scrape £50 but there is no elite-ist here it is for 1 goal to save our club, Create 200,000 bonds at £50 and sell them off on the basis that you will not see your cash again unless we survive and make the premiership. Let the city council contract with Norwich union for the purchase of the stadium, to rid us from that debt and lease it back to us Inevtably we will lose players due to finances dictating, and even we are clobbered with 10 points and league 1 football i'd be happy as long as my club remains for me and my kids and future generations to support. We are now paying for Wilde's £7.5miliion transfer gamble to get us up when Burley was in charge... hindsight is a wonderful thing and we could have made the premiership. £50 per bond - i'll buy 10, and have all ready lost out finacially with 150 shares... but its like your family .. you support it through good and bad times Edited 4 April, 2009 by The Fat Controller Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 £500? Cheaper than a divorce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 what was it nick - throw it up inan auction! It is only a small lapel badge but with a picture of the 1901-1902 ?(from memory)team that would have been worn by a fan then at games.To most it may be of little interest as just an old badge but as a historic collectors piece it is very rare as there wouldnt have been many made and also most would have been lost in time. Gary Chalk did some research for me for an item on this site regarding the RAF dog team incident and so I would like him to have first chance of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 This is the Mark representing the consortium that I spoke to, but it now looks like an attempt to highjack the site's initiative. I personally explained that a trust was the way to go and no money taken until everything in place legally and protected. In no way would I support an open ended company capitalised by the public but run by an unelected few. For me it's a properly set up trust fund or nothing. I may well walk away from this one now. Don't be hasty, I know you won't, but I agree with you. I would like to suggest that when a trust fund is set up, monies are not put into Barclays. Somewhere with established ethics like the Co-op Bank, which is a mutual, would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Read the 'appeal' on OS. They (Crouch, Richards) appear to be asking for cash handouts. Administration is a disaster, but not a natural disaster like the recent bushfires in my backyard. I want something for my money - i want to guarantee administration won't happen again. The trust plans described on this thread appear to me to be far more palatable in that we're getting some kind of democratic process and each of us become small owners with the related ownership rights (agm, voting, etc) & we, like minded people can therefore avoid any further Lowe-type fiasco's that threaten to drive 'our' club out of business. However, We need to act fast otherwise the appeal will take money that could otherwise be used by the trust. Who's going to do it?, who's going to stand up & be counted?, Keith?, Illingsworth? (he's always been a true die hard fan whatever people's personal opinions of him). Someone - please ???? There are two urgent and different needs. One is to keep the club going for the remainder of this season. I will donate a cheque to Crouch's appeal this afternoon, and it won't distract from my pledged amount to the Trust Fund. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 If you need to track down Gavyn Davies, your best bet will be to pitch up at the Emirates Stadium, Islington at around three o'clock tomorrow where Mr Davies and his family have season tickets for some considerable time. If I were you, I'd grab him at half time, so you don't take him away from his beloved Arsenal. I still have no doubt he has SFC at heart. From what I understand he didn't get on with Lowe (who did?), so perhaps he has to shoulder some of the blame for driving away a "friend" (and a very useful one at that) to the club. If he was interested, or wanted to front a consortium, I'd have him no problem. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Don't be hasty, I know you won't, but I agree with you. I would like to suggest that when a trust fund is set up, monies are not put into Barclays. Somewhere with established ethics like the Co-op Bank, which is a mutual, would be good. The reason I favoured Barclays was simple. They would see the money coming into a trust account and realise that there were assets available and imminent and be less likely to pull the plug on the club accounts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I applaud the attempts to save our saints and would certainly find some funds myself but i would not go to barclays or any of the other crooked banks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Let me say that I have contacts with many sources relating to SFC. When "Derry" asked me to assist him I emailed those sources explaining the situation and asking that they not email me with information further as it might be seen as a conflict of interest. From my point of view I want to see SFC continue. I want to see a viable group takeover the running of SFC. I see what we are trying to achieve is a back up if all else fails. "Derry" already knows my diary is pretty full for the next two critical weeks but I will support him and the Save our Saints Group as best I can. Come on you red & whites (why do some say come on you reds? We are Red & White - Lifes blood) Ron I don't think you have a confliction problem. For one thing you don't divulge confidential information and more importantly what we are doing isn't competing with any bid and unless others see it differently, is purely a fall back position to try and save the club or as others have said to me and I agree, a way of assisting a worthwhile and credible bidder and there is, in the event of a possible shortfall. I would be interested in feedback regarding my last remark because it does move the goalposts somewhat and would need careful thought. I am hopeful that a credible offer that needs no help will be agreed and we can then stand down. I have heard back from Paris Smith and Randall who have put me in touch with someone else who I haven't managed to talk to yet and therefore don't quite know where it will take us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Can we have one of those things on the site that add up all the monies pledged so far so dont have to keep adding it up. I too can help with any administrative work required, experienced pa and good arranging and minuting muinutes. Janet, Ron has given me your contact details and any help will be gratefully accepted. I will be in direct touch as soon as I see where we are going. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I applaud the attempts to save our saints and would certainly find some funds myself but i would not go to barclays or any of the other crooked banks. I know how you feel, I hope we don't need them but in the event we have to be able to collect the money and they are the only way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2009 You may want to look at forming a community interest company http://www.cicregulator.gov.uk/index.shtml "Community Interest Companies (CICS) are limited companies, with special additional features, created for the use of people who want to conduct a business or other activity for community benefit, and not purely for private advantage. This is achieved by a "community interest test" and "asset lock", which ensure that the CIC is established for community purposes and the assets and profits are dedicated to these purposes. Registration of a company as a CIC has to be approved by the Regulator who also has a continuing monitoring and enforcement role" Thanks for that, I am just about to talk to a lawyer and will get him to look at that as well as a trust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BridgnorthSaint Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 £500 from me - If the missus doesn;t find out!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adysaint Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I've got £1000 in a Natwest saver online account thingy. Gathering interest. I was saving it for a rainy day. It just started raining. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Javi Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I know a third party who would inject money by getting 50% of some players's rights to help. 200k or 500k could come quickly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strummer Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I have money available, but what are the likely returns on investment. Or is this just a charity thing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian the Red Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Derry, think you had better get things moving pretty quick, cant see anyone wanting to buy the club after that gutless, spineless performance...... I am extremely optimistic.... all of the time.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2009 I have money available, but what are the likely returns on investment. Or is this just a charity thing? It's not an investment, there is no return and it is much too early to talk of discount benefits etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 4 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 4 April, 2009 (edited) Derry, think you had better get things moving pretty quick, cant see anyone wanting to buy the club after that gutless, spineless performance...... I am extremely optimistic.... all of the time.... I wish I was. The team needs the same treatment as that poor bloody horse I backed today. Anyway it sounds as though there was a decent meeting today and the next few days should tell. I had a chat with a senior manager today and filled him in on what we are trying to do, he was with the people concerned and like everyone else of course is hoping for the best. After all it's his job on the line. Whilst I am devastated by the abysmal performance I am hoping things will be resolved pretty quickly. I did see one of the principal players Anthony Salz in the reception so I have a pretty good idea what is happening. Apart from the incompetent team selection and the unbelievable failure to change things around after 20 mins then again at half time,the team looked like they were walking to the gallows. Nothing can happen quickly, I am waiting for a response from a lawyer who has offered to help regarding setting up a trust or community company. The administrator wants us to be a fallback in the event of there being no suitable buyer. I have a lot of helpers but as yet not a lot we can do. It makes sense to combine with the Save our Saints provided they have a cast iron trust or means of absolutely protecting any money paid in with no access until used or returned. I think Leon Crouch's initiative is great for the here and now and can be paid to the club but we can't do that. Every penny has to be protected, it is not our money. Edited 4 April, 2009 by derry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red Posted 4 April, 2009 Share Posted 4 April, 2009 Regular viewer of this site, although never posted until now - mind you tempted to many times but always felt all opinions, including one's I was totally opposed to deserved to be expressed. Funny how some regular members on here seem more concerned about other members views more than SFC - never understood that? Any way nothing slightly funny about our situation at the moment. I have supported Saints since 1974 and for the most part loved it - many many great memories ! I now live in Ireland and cannot get to SMS as often, but cannot stand by and watch my beloved club dissappear and will pledge at least £1,000 for this initiative - more if I can, but I am also sending donations directly to Saints. Also happy to aid remotely with any other fund raising ideas. I have lots - does anyone know who to address these to? Thanks and keep the faith ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 April, 2009 Share Posted 5 April, 2009 What is the target amount? £25m should fund a couple of seasons with an aim to returning to the CCC and staying there. £50m - £100m if we are truly ambitious and not to mention a profitable crowd average of about 20,000. Oh well, back to the drawing board. Can I respectfully suggest that before your average fan goes pumping 000's into our club they maybe better off reducing their mortgages or increasing their nest eggs for the rainy days ahead. Lets face it c.12k of them have presumably already been doing that this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 5 April, 2009 Share Posted 5 April, 2009 I wish I was. The team needs the same treatment as that poor bloody horse I backed today. . They'll be selling Lallana and Euell burgers in Belguim alongside their usual Aintree delicacies then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SW11_Saint Posted 5 April, 2009 Share Posted 5 April, 2009 £25m should fund a couple of seasons with an aim to returning to the CCC and staying there. £50m - £100m if we are truly ambitious and not to mention a profitable crowd average of about 20,000. Oh well, back to the drawing board. Can I respectfully suggest that before your average fan goes pumping 000's into our club they maybe better off reducing their mortgages or increasing their nest eggs for the rainy days ahead. Lets face it c.12k of them have presumably already been doing that this season. Can I respectfully suggest you **** off, unless you have something constructive to say? Your hero Lowe has failed - spectacularly - and has left us on the brink of League 1 and in Adminstration. Stop trying to to take your frustration out on those trying to help the club and go have a little cry... you'll feel better for it, believe me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strummer Posted 5 April, 2009 Share Posted 5 April, 2009 It's not an investment, there is no return and it is much too early to talk of discount benefits etc. All ownership is an investment, derry. First rule of business. Presumably that's what you're talking about it, or is it just throwing money at the wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFC Forever Posted 5 April, 2009 Share Posted 5 April, 2009 If one is struggling to make a reasonable stake is it possible to keep adding to the fund? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 5 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 5 April, 2009 All ownership is an investment, derry. First rule of business. Presumably that's what you're talking about it, or is it just throwing money at the wall? It's a contribution to saving the club. It probably won't be needed, however in my opinion a football club should invest every penny that comes in, in the team. Anybody that puts money into a football club and wants a secure investment with a return should consider investing somewhere else. The only way to make a small fortune out of a football club apart from being a player/manager is start with a big fortune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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