JustMike Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 just got my tickets, taking my 3 year old to her 1st game too. Under 5000 left, are expecting a sell out. COYR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the saint in winchester Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Just got my tickets too. Joked with the guy that we normally just walk up on the day, but thought had better book in advance based on reports I was reading. He agreed and said they were opening the corners and were confident of a sellout. The response has been massive. We are officially a 30k+ fanbase. We are doing out part to show that to potential investors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 How exactly? Have you asked the reasons why each person is coming?! Couldn't we just have left Lowe out of it on a positive thread? People are coming along because we're in absolutely dire need of support and money. Any relation to Lowe could only be measured fairly on average over a season. And even then, probably with a similar campaign in this league, as it wouldn't be fair to compare League 1 attendence figures for example. I've asked the the 8 in my gang and 5 would not be coming along if Lowe was still here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Supporting Lowe was our only option (like him or not), me and about 15,000 others who regularly attended home games knew that, but this morning it appears over 10-15,000 have somewhat tragically and belatedly woken up to the fact. Lowe didn't fail - our support did and I have been spouting all season that the fans who boycotted the club would bring about the demise through revenue reduction and offset any cost cutting measures the board tried. A simple logic that was beyond the grasp of many I'm afraid. I can hold my head high along with many other ST holders and regular attendees those who go to the game tomorrow for the first time this season are the ones who were wrong and need to hang your heads in shame. I hope no one stands next to me and my mates with some misguided bullish attitude boasting about it's good to be back or words to the effect (see Garret's earlier comments as a case in point) . Boycotting was not and never was going to be the answer and the cracks in the support are now like giant crevices as far as I am concerned and irreperable. ummm yes he did. We all know the history of it, relegation, poor choice of managers on more than one occasion. Not supporting WGS, only spending £90,000 in our 1st season in the championship, coming back again with Wilde etc etc. The fans are now almost reunited (apart from those that are crying over Lowe), the ground will be full once again, potential investers WILL come now Lowe and Wilde have gone. The future is bright, its red and white COYR!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stepgar Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Just got my ticket and the lady said that there is only a few thousand tickets left. so dont be the one with no ticket tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 It is no real surprise that fans are turning out in numbers, how about they pledge their support for next season as well.I went and visited a sick relative just before they died, sadly i didnt in the months leading up to it and probably still wouldnt have had he still be alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Latest email from Mr Luker: Halfway point?? I wish!! We’re open until 8pm tonight Currently 22.5k sold. Very, very busy. We have extra staff now here until we close so queuing here wont be too bad today. Would advise all supporters to buy in person here rather than the booking line to save huge collections queues tomorrow. The response from supporters is mind blowing. We had queues at 8am this morning and I don’t think we have stopped once. Itchen North will open very soon, and we will also see how much we can start eating into the away end later if demand still persists (and we know it will do) David Luker Head of Supporter Services Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 ummm yes he did. We all know the history of it, relegation, poor choice of managers on more than one occasion. Not supporting WGS, only spending £90,000 in our 1st season in the championship, coming back again with Wilde etc etc. The fans are now almost reunited (apart from those that are crying over Lowe), the ground will be full once again, potential investers WILL come now Lowe and Wilde have gone. The future is bright, its red and white COYR!! This type of post brings me back to when the Wilde bunch rode into town, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 This type of post brings me back to when the Wilde bunch rode into town, how do you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 He's just feeling a little bit Lowe at the moment Mike;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Supporting Lowe was our only option (like him or not), me and about 15,000 others who regularly attended home games knew that, but this morning it appears over 10-15,000 have somewhat tragically and belatedly woken up to the fact. Lowe didn't fail - our support did and I have been spouting all season that the fans who boycotted the club would bring about the demise through revenue reduction and offset any cost cutting measures the board tried. A simple logic that was beyond the grasp of many I'm afraid. I can hold my head high along with many other ST holders and regular attendees those who go to the game tomorrow for the first time this season are the ones who were wrong and need to hang your heads in shame. I hope no one stands next to me and my mates with some misguided bullish attitude boasting about it's good to be back or words to the effect (see Garret's earlier comments as a case in point) . Boycotting was not and never was going to be the answer and the cracks in the support are now like giant crevices as far as I am concerned and irreperable. "Supporting Lowe was our only option, me and about 15,000 regulars knew this" !!!!! Dont EVER prosume to speak for me Nineteen. I haven't missed a home game all season and i KNOW Lowe was our WORST option. I welcome back with open arms those who couldn't stomach coming along and supporting while Lowe was here, and rather be sitting next to one of them Saturday than Lowe apologists like you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Petersfield Saint Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 How about the club issuing fans an offer that they guarentee to buy a s/t next season? if we could get 15-20000 guarentors to purchase that would also send a message to investors. Great idea - I haven't had a s/t since 2002 but would happily get behind this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Katalinic Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 "Supporting Lowe was our only option, me and about 15,000 regulars knew this" !!!!! Dont EVER prosume to speak for me Nineteen. I haven't missed a home game all season and i KNOW Lowe was our WORST option. I welcome back with open arms those who couldn't stomach coming along and supporting while Lowe was here, and rather be sitting next to one of them Saturday than Lowe apologists like you. Seconded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 So, stay away fans like me are being urged to go to the last few games of the season. Then why can’t I buy a ticket yet for the Palace and Burnley games? I’d have thought that whoever is in charge now would be looking to make the product of this ailing business as readily available as possible. Err, you can - I bought mine yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 "Supporting Lowe was our only option, me and about 15,000 regulars knew this" !!!!! Dont EVER prosume to speak for me Nineteen. I haven't missed a home game all season and i KNOW Lowe was our WORST option. I welcome back with open arms those who couldn't stomach coming along and supporting while Lowe was here, and rather be sitting next to one of them Saturday than Lowe apologists like you. Fair enough but if we'd had good attendances all season we probably wouldn't be in this mess. The phrase 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' springs to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Fair enough but if we'd had good attendances all season we probably wouldn't be in this mess. The phrase 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' springs to mind. we still would have been in the brown stuff, investers would not come whilst Lowe and Wilde were here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Topcat Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Fair enough but if we'd had good attendances all season we probably wouldn't be in this mess. The phrase 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' springs to mind. We would not be in this mess if Lowe had not come back because:- 1. Attendances would have been 5,000 to 8,000 higher per game. 2. Pearson would have stayed as the Manager (fired by Lowe) and we would have not had the awful Jan Portaloo selected by R. Lowe. In case you may not have noticed we are:- 1. Short of revenue 2. Sitting in a relegation slot. Each of the points relates to the actions of Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 how do you mean? We had days of adulation and how the investment would roll in as Lowe had left, the ground would be full .....and then where did it get us.Again I dont want anyone but Lowe but something that will give us a future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Fair enough but if we'd had good attendances all season we probably wouldn't be in this mess. The phrase 'cutting off your nose to spite your face' springs to mind. You of course, know this for a fact??......can you give me tonight's lottery numbers,then I will buy the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 5 Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 "Supporting Lowe was our only option, me and about 15,000 regulars knew this" !!!!! Dont EVER prosume to speak for me Nineteen. I haven't missed a home game all season and i KNOW Lowe was our WORST option. I welcome back with open arms those who couldn't stomach coming along and supporting while Lowe was here, and rather be sitting next to one of them Saturday than Lowe apologists like you. What he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 You of course, know this for a fact??......can you give me tonight's lottery numbers,then I will buy the club. I don't know that for a fact, which is why I said probably wouldn't be in this mess. I don't think any potential investors will be too impressed by an average attendance of around 16,000, especially when it is a drop of around 7,000 from the previous season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Blocks 1 and 2 open... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 "Supporting Lowe was our only option, me and about 15,000 regulars knew this" !!!!! Dont EVER prosume to speak for me Nineteen. I haven't missed a home game all season and i KNOW Lowe was our WORST option. I welcome back with open arms those who couldn't stomach coming along and supporting while Lowe was here, and rather be sitting next to one of them Saturday than Lowe apologists like you. Will you still feel the same if the club dies or maybe even worse due to League sanctions and a cobbled together rescue package does a Luton Town? The thing is I admire you Docker -P for supporting the club regardless of your opinions about the board. We all support Southampton and stuck by them so for the same reason I don't know if I can stomach the return of the 'triumphant' fickle fan who will be gone if we drop into League 1 next season and no doubt a fair few will not return if stay up. 14,999 regulars knew that supporting the team was the only way to help it's long term survival, Lowe or not. Not sure what Docker-P was doing there. Lowe apologist? Good one, more a believer in common sense and simple business principals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 We would not be in this mess if Lowe had not come back because:- 1. Attendances would have been 5,000 to 8,000 higher per game. 2. Pearson would have stayed as the Manager (fired by Lowe) and we would have not had the awful Jan Portaloo selected by R. Lowe. In case you may not have noticed we are:- 1. Short of revenue 2. Sitting in a relegation slot. Each of the points relates to the actions of Lowe. I wholeheartedly agree with point 2, even though his record was not good he at least had the fans behind him.If we had only won 3 in 17 this season then the crowds would be pretty much the same as now. Whoever was in charge would have to make massive cuts and it would be interesting how LC would have done so.Very difficult for whoever was in charge and having to reduce the overdraft by a million in these times is even harder. RL kept Jan too long, but cutting the clubs costs was thre only way forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 What he said. And if it's too little too late? Still welcome back the rubberneckers because that is what they amount to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saints_is_the_south Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Can we not have atleast 1 thread that isn't a about Rupert f*cking lowe? Anyway seems block 1 & 2 are open which will be snapped up in no time, David Luker also said the ticket office were consdiering opening block 43 in the Northam. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Griffo Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Umm, I have a season ticket in block 4. If blocks 1,2,3 are open again, is it likely they will completely sell out, or would it be likely I could just walk across and stand in an empty space? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 "Supporting Lowe was our only option, me and about 15,000 regulars knew this" !!!!! Dont EVER prosume to speak for me Nineteen. I haven't missed a home game all season and i KNOW Lowe was our WORST option. I welcome back with open arms those who couldn't stomach coming along and supporting while Lowe was here, and rather be sitting next to one of them Saturday than Lowe apologists like you.I understand your point Docker P but dont get too comfortable with some of those returning fans saturday as they will disappear again until the next train crash is going to happen.Pre Sheff Utd last season what was the average 22K last game 32000 , new season 19k (yes there were factors to account for that) saturday when we look as we may only play 3 more home games 30k , if we are saved or relegated back to 10k-15k. i dont care who i sit to if they are saints fans as long as they are there good and bad. Welcome back to every one of the returning fans but this time you have no excuses not to keep coming back week on week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 We had days of adulation and how the investment would roll in as Lowe had left, the ground would be full .....and then where did it get us.Again I dont want anyone but Lowe but something that will give us a future. The thing is though that even though Lowe wasnt here when wilde came in, he still had a major say in investment, takeovers etc due to his shares and those proxied to him. The difference this time is that its out of his hands so he cant demand XXp for them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Will you still feel the same if the club dies or maybe even worse due to League sanctions and a cobbled together rescue package does a Luton Town? The thing is I admire you Docker -P for supporting the club regardless of your opinions about the board. We all support Southampton and stuck by them so for the same reason I don't know if I can stomach the return of the 'triumphant' fickle fan who will be gone if we drop into League 1 next season and no doubt a fair few will not return if stay up. 14,999 regulars knew that supporting the team was the only way to help it's long term survival, Lowe or not. Not sure what Docker-P was doing there. Lowe apologist? Good one, more a believer in common sense and simple business principals. the club would still be in trouble even if we had say 28,000 average per game, just would have prolonged the inevitable. We still would need investment, which would not have come whilst lowe and wilde were here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 And if it's too little too late? Still welcome back the rubberneckers because that is what they amount to? Get over yourself. Sanctimonious c**k jockey. At the the start of the season you and equally deluded mongs like mongi, were spouting off how the boycotters numbered in their mere hundreds and would have no impact and now you want to blame them for the demise of SFC. You were wrong then and it's no surprise that you're wrong now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nathan Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Just spoke to the ticket office getting my tickets for Watford and there are currently 6361 tickets available. It did go down to 4000 but they have now opened all corners. So that means about 23,000 have been sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 The thing is though that even though Lowe wasnt here when wilde came in, he still had a major say in investment, takeovers etc due to his shares and those proxied to him. The difference this time is that its out of his hands so he cant demand XXp for themDream on Mike.It is a fallacy that he blocked investment, he with Wilde and LC did not agree to SISU as they wouldnt answer pertinent questions. I have long held the belief that the Paul Allen deal was held up by other respected people at the club,many scoff at that but I believe it like you do RL did the same.I do know if the PA thing is true and that the people dithered and couldnt make their minds up is true anything RL did wrong is nothing. UMp has put forward a very good case it wasn't true but from people i know that were on both sides of the board were very much believing it was the truth. I wonder if ever there were minutes of meetings that could now be accessed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 the club would still be in trouble even if we had say 28,000 average per game, just would have prolonged the inevitable. We still would need investment, which would not have come whilst lowe and wilde were here. What NC conveniently forgets is that the crowds were not just down due to Rupes, the 'product' on offer has tended to be very lean fare, and the customers voted with their feet when they judged they were not being given 'value for money'. Crowds of 28K would not have got us any more points, our league position is down to Portaloo, and that as much as anything else has impacted the club's finances and chances of garnering investment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 the club would still be in trouble even if we had say 28,000 average per game, just would have prolonged the inevitable. We still would need investment, which would not have come whilst lowe and wilde were here.If we were gettinmg 28k crowds it may have prolonged the inevitable, but people would be more inclined to invest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 What NC conveniently forgets is that the crowds were not just down due to Rupes, the 'product' on offer has tended to be very lean fare, and the customers voted with their feet when they judged they were not being given 'value for money'. Crowds of 28K would not have got us any more points, our league position is down to Portaloo, and that as much as anything else has impacted the club's finances and chances of garnering investment.I agree the product on offer was lean, so all the fans back saturday you admit wont be there next season as the fare will be bloody leaner than on a spoon in a soup kitchen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Dream on Mike.It is a fallacy that he blocked investment, he with Wilde and LC did not agree to SISU as they wouldnt answer pertinent questions. I have long held the belief that the Paul Allen deal was held up by other respected people at the club,many scoff at that but I believe it like you do RL did the same.I do know if the PA thing is true and that the people dithered and couldnt make their minds up is true anything RL did wrong is nothing. UMp has put forward a very good case it wasn't true but from people i know that were on both sides of the board were very much believing it was the truth. I wonder if ever there were minutes of meetings that could now be accessed? nick.........get over yourself FFS. Some very respected posters on here, have said that this was the case, I myself believe this was the case, so stop deluding yourself.........he shafted this club, not once but twice....live with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Latest email from Mr Luker: According to Charltonlife they are expecting to sell 800-1000 tickets,so room for a nibble surely! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stu Man Do Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Just over 22k sold as of about 10 mins ago. All corners are now open for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 From the Evening Standard - including quotes from Lowe Barclays is at the centre of an embarrassing row today as the bank, sponsor of the English Premiership, was accused of "sentencing to death" Southampton Football Club. Championship side Southampton, one of the few clubs listed on the stock market, saw parent company Southampton Leisure fall into administration yesterday. Its shares had been suspended a day earlier after it admitted it was unable to get its half-year accounts signed off by its auditors by the 31 March deadline. Southampton's financial crisis has been an open secret in football circles for months, but chairman Rupert Lowe today launched an extraordinary attack blaming the club's troubles on its bankers Barclays. Lowe - who is also chairman of broker WH Ireland, recently embroiled in controversy over the takeover of a rival - said: "This a bizarre situation and should have been avoided. I am frankly amazed that Barclays have done what they have done." He accused the bank of effectively foreclosing on a £4 million overdraft facility with the club. "I don't consider £4 million to be a very substantial figure in terms of salaries paid to people like Bob Diamond," he said, referring to the head of Barclays Capital who has for years routinely been paid more than £20 million a year. Lowe claimed Barclays had agreed to relax overdraft arrangements to enable Southampton to pay its player wages of £1 million a month, but then bounced three cheques. Barclays said it was making "ongoing efforts to find a suitable solution" but the club required "substantial further investment". Southampton, currently in the Championship relegation zone, has had a roller-coaster ride in the past two years. It had been hoped the sales of Theo Walcott to Arsenal and Gareth Bale to Tottenham Hotspur would stabilise the club financially. But debts are now reckoned to have topped £30 million, and a string of suitors offering to bail out and buy the club were rebuffed by the board. Just for you nickh;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barry Horne Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Surely the fact we've won less than a handful of games at home this season is the reason for the poor attendances. I've got a season ticket but have to admit the quality of football has been so dire that had I not had one, I'm not sure I would have forked out to go to SMS to watch the shower of sh*te being served up week after week. Blame Lowe, JP or whoever for that but I think it's safe to say that if the team head been winning games and scoring goals the crowds would have been a lot higher, regardless of the Lowe factor. Bottom line is, the entertainment was not good enough to tempt casual fans to dip into their pockets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 nick.........get over yourself FFS. Some very respected posters on here, have said that this was the case, I myself believe this was the case, so stop deluding yourself.........he shafted this club, not once but twice....live with it.Ginge are you for real on this? RL a man who is backed by Askham who have a common interest, money.They can see the books, and we were losing over 30k a week. Even a school kid can work out that if you are losing that week week you have a very shaky investment.So along comes MR Moneybags who doesnt worry if he loses a few million.Askham and Lowe say 'Go away, our shares will be worthless in a few months so we dont want to sell them.' It is nonsense,I dont mind some well thought out replies but that is a plain silly. As I have said i can 100% guarantee that RL was showing prospective investors around the club weeks and weeks ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 I agree the product on offer was lean, so all the fans back saturday you admit wont be there next season as the fare will be bloody leaner than on a spoon in a soup kitchen That is inevitable due to to human nature. The current response is purely emotional. The only income any football club can count on is ST sales, everything else is down to individual circumstance; mood, weather, family, finance, work, the reputation and nature of the opposition, the competition being played, etc,etc,etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamesaint Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Will you still feel the same if the club dies or maybe even worse due to League sanctions and a cobbled together rescue package does a Luton Town? The thing is I admire you Docker -P for supporting the club regardless of your opinions about the board. We all support Southampton and stuck by them so for the same reason I don't know if I can stomach the return of the 'triumphant' fickle fan who will be gone if we drop into League 1 next season and no doubt a fair few will not return if stay up. 14,999 regulars knew that supporting the team was the only way to help it's long term survival, Lowe or not. Not sure what Docker-P was doing there. Lowe apologist? Good one, more a believer in common sense and simple business principals. Just admit it Nineteen. You backed the wrong horse. You got it wrong. Lowe's second tenure at this club has been a complete disaster. I would have thought that you may now start to admit it but no you still live in a strange surreal world. On saturday you will see the true potential of this club when the fans get together. Lowe prevented this potential from being realised. Sometimes in life you have to take one step back to take 2 forward. I just sincerly hope that we can emerge from this sorry mess that we are now in with a united fan base and no Lowe / Wilde on the scene. If we do, then the step backwards we are taking may be worth it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 From the Evening Standard - including quotes from Lowe Barclays is at the centre of an embarrassing row today as the bank, sponsor of the English Premiership, was accused of "sentencing to death" Southampton Football Club. Championship side Southampton, one of the few clubs listed on the stock market, saw parent company Southampton Leisure fall into administration yesterday. Its shares had been suspended a day earlier after it admitted it was unable to get its half-year accounts signed off by its auditors by the 31 March deadline. Southampton's financial crisis has been an open secret in football circles for months, but chairman Rupert Lowe today launched an extraordinary attack blaming the club's troubles on its bankers Barclays. Lowe - who is also chairman of broker WH Ireland, recently embroiled in controversy over the takeover of a rival - said: "This a bizarre situation and should have been avoided. I am frankly amazed that Barclays have done what they have done." He accused the bank of effectively foreclosing on a £4 million overdraft facility with the club. "I don't consider £4 million to be a very substantial figure in terms of salaries paid to people like Bob Diamond," he said, referring to the head of Barclays Capital who has for years routinely been paid more than £20 million a year. Lowe claimed Barclays had agreed to relax overdraft arrangements to enable Southampton to pay its player wages of £1 million a month, but then bounced three cheques. Barclays said it was making "ongoing efforts to find a suitable solution" but the club required "substantial further investment". Southampton, currently in the Championship relegation zone, has had a roller-coaster ride in the past two years. It had been hoped the sales of Theo Walcott to Arsenal and Gareth Bale to Tottenham Hotspur would stabilise the club financially. But debts are now reckoned to have topped £30 million, and a string of suitors offering to bail out and buy the club were rebuffed by the board. Just for you nickh;) Rebuffed by the board, but i thought they weren't interested because Lowe was there? I assume SISU was one of those, and to be fair as I dont know what offers the paper is meaning they didnt say RL did but the board which could have been over the last 2 years. Would it include barry the Briefcase? It is hardly specific is it? As I say th3ey wouldnt turn down offers if they were going to lose the lot would they? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Ginge are you for real on this? RL a man who is backed by Askham who have a common interest, money.They can see the books, and we were losing over 30k a week. Even a school kid can work out that if you are losing that week week you have a very shaky investment.So along comes MR Moneybags who doesnt worry if he loses a few million.Askham and Lowe say 'Go away, our shares will be worthless in a few months so we dont want to sell them.' It is nonsense,I dont mind some well thought out replies but that is a plain silly. As I have said i can 100% guarantee that RL was showing prospective investors around the club weeks and weeks ago. Can you also 100% guarantee, that when offered a price for his shares, Stupert said no, unless the same price was paid to all his buddies....over to you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 . As I have said i can 100% guarantee that RL was showing prospective investors around the club weeks and weeks ago. And.......where did they go ? ( PS, refer back to Ginge's post on the previous page ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Just admit it Nineteen. You backed the wrong horse. You got it wrong. Lowe's second tenure at this club has been a complete disaster. I would have thought that you may now start to admit it but no you still live in a strange surreal world. On saturday you will see the true potential of this club when the fans get together. Lowe prevented this potential from being realised. Sometimes in life you have to take one step back to take 2 forward. I just sincerly hope that we can emerge from this sorry mess that we are now in with a united fan base and no Lowe / Wilde on the scene. If we do, then the step backwards we are taking may be worth it.I suggest that we all backed the wrong horse one way or other.Wilde got his way in on the back of a populist wave of fans support, he then in turn called him back.No punter comes out of this feeling too clever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 Rebuffed by the board, but i thought they weren't interested because Lowe was there? I assume SISU was one of those, and to be fair as I dont know what offers the paper is meaning they didnt say RL did but the board which could have been over the last 2 years. Would it include barry the Briefcase? It is hardly specific is it? As I say th3ey wouldnt turn down offers if they were going to lose the lot would they? Again...you just run around in circles....Stupert was the board, ask those to whom opposed him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 3 April, 2009 Share Posted 3 April, 2009 And.......where did they go ? ( PS, refer back to Ginge's post on the previous page )They didnt come up with the goods obviously.There was talk of somebody on the eve of administration but couldnt get the funds together.Another Fulthorpe it seems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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