St Marco Posted 31 March, 2009 Posted 31 March, 2009 Yes As far as im concerned these two people are the cause of everything bad that has happened to this club. Their mismanagement has brought the club to its knees. They came back saying they were the only ones who could save the club. One year later and the club is taking its last breaths. LOWE AND WILDE OUT
alpine_saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Posted 31 March, 2009 Does a bear shiit in the wood ? Rupert Lowe : Destroyer of 124 years of proud history in the pursuit of a quick buck.
Mr Saints Posted 31 March, 2009 Posted 31 March, 2009 I pray I'm wrong, but I don't think it will make much difference now. They have killed us.
St Marco Posted 31 March, 2009 Author Posted 31 March, 2009 Does a bear shiit in the wood ? Depends on what type of bear were talking about. A better then your average bear might not! He would steal your picnic basket though. Which again is Lowes fault!
saint lard Posted 31 March, 2009 Posted 31 March, 2009 This is not the time for recriminations Bellends,the both of them.
offix Posted 31 March, 2009 Posted 31 March, 2009 does a bear shiit in the wood ? Rupert lowe : Destroyer of 124 years of proud history in the pursuit of a quick buck. amen!
Papa Shango Posted 31 March, 2009 Posted 31 March, 2009 Yes of course. I don't even see how it's up for debate.
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Posted 31 March, 2009 yeah, the reason we are in this sh1t in the first place. He should have f***ed off after the cup final.
Saint Fan CaM Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Nah, let's give 'em another chance - who knows, Lowe might put in a bit of his own money, appoint a decent manager, keep away from the changing room and training ground, find new investment etc. And then there's always the f-ing world-class catering to save us....oh.
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Does a bear shiit in the wood ? Rupert Lowe : Destroyer of 124 years of proud history in the pursuit of a quick buck. It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it it was Michael Wilde here we go again... So Lowe isnt to blame at all??
70's Mike Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it it was Michael Wilde a lone voice in the wilderness
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 here we go again... So Lowe isnt to blame at all?? Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today. But surely Wilde is the main culprit
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today. But surely Wilde is the main culprit all links in a very long chain, with Wilde and Lowe at either end.
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 (edited) all links in a very long chain, with Wilde and Lowe at either end. Yes I totally agree but as most people hate Lowe he gets all the blame when I think lots should be heaped on Wilde and his fantasies. Even now fans think Investment fist spouted by Wilde will solve everything which of course it would in theory. But in practise it is very difficult to get in large investors because of the circumstances at SFC Edited 1 April, 2009 by John B
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Yes I agree but as most people hate Lowe he gets all the blame when I think lots should be heaped on Wilde and his fantasies. Even now fans think Investment fist spouted by Wilde will solve everything which of course it would in theory. But in practise it is very difficult to get in large investors because of the circumstances at SFC You have a point. Lowe's biggest mistake was coming back I think. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 (edited) You have a point. Lowe's biggest mistake was coming back I think. That was the straw that broke the camel's back. Yes again that was Wilde thinking something could be achieved when we were already stuffed. We needed to off load our high earners by selling them and not loaning them to reduce the overdraft Edited 1 April, 2009 by John B
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Yes again that was Wilde thinking something could be achieved when we were already stuffed. Lowe and Wilde together ;-) also, Lowes BIGGEST mistake imo, was not investing in the playing side after FA cup final, that was the time to push on.
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 (edited) Lowe and Wilde together ;-) also, Lowes BIGGEST mistake imo, was not investing in the playing side after FA cup final, that was the time to push on. I know everybody says that but buying in players does not guarantee success. Where was the money to come from? We were investing in the Academy and if Bale Walcott Jones had not been sold we would have been in administration earlier WE have been trying to get investment for years Losing Strachan was the key because we were rudderless Edited 1 April, 2009 by John B
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 I know everybody says that but buying in players does not guarantee success. Where was the money to come from? WE have been trying to get investment for years we did have cash there, must have got a bit from fa cup run, europe, prem position and sky money, not to mention player sales. Didnt need vast amounts, just 1 or 2 like WGS wanted, would have been enough...but i guess we will never know. Also, RL wanted waaay to much per share, if as rumoured a while ago people were interested but he turned down bids, bet he wished he had taken it now
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 we did have cash there, must have got a bit from fa cup run, europe, prem position and sky money, not to mention player sales. Didnt need vast amounts, just 1 or 2 like WGS wanted, would have been enough...but i guess we will never know. Also, RL wanted waaay to much per share, if as rumoured a while ago people were interested but he turned down bids, bet he wished he had taken it now Yes but at the time the Sky money was not as big as it is today But as you rightly know say it is only ifs and whats. The investment Wilde put in has really caused the problem because it did not bring success and we have to pay the wages of the players
fos1 Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Yes but at the time the Sky money was not as big as it is today But as you rightly know say it is only ifs and whats. The investment Wilde put in has really caused the problem because it did not bring success and we have to pay the wages of the players The investment Wilde put in !! your having a laugh right, he did not put one penny in, despite all his pledges to do so, the man is a fraud, will he have the guts to turn on Saturday !!!!!
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 The investment Wilde put in !! your having a laugh right, he did not put one penny in, despite all his pledges to do so, the man is a fraud, will he have the guts to turn on Saturday !!!!! Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe. I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him. I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Anyone got a high powered rifle and scope I can borrow?
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Anyone got a high powered rifle and scope I can borrow? Lee Harvey Oswald had one contact the Dallas Police
JustMike Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe. I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him. I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster Equally! Lowe started the domino effect, Wilde carried it on, then they both join together to make sure they all fall over :-(
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Equally! Lowe started the domino effect, Wilde carried it on, then they both join together to make sure they all fall over :-( Yes but whoever was in charge this season would probably have led us to administration. I bet Crouch is really happy he is just like us a fan. It is the same with the UK economy the Tories and Liberals are laughing because they not in charge
Viking Warrior Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 A sad day but St Marco its easy to lay the blame at Lowe and wilde But the world financial melt down has a big say in what has happened. I think a number of other clubs will now follow suit, they were just waiting for the first club to put it head above the parapet. Oh and Crouch , hone and co are equally to blame if you look at last years accounts Still one at least one **** on here will be celebrating won't you stanley are you inviting your mate alpine round to share a bottle of cider?
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 A sad day but St Marco its easy to lay the blame at Lowe and wilde But the world financial melt down has a big say in what has happened. I think a number of other clubs will now follow suit, they were just waiting for the first club to put it head above the parapet. Oh and Crouch , hone and co are equally to blame if you look at last years accounts Still one at least one **** on here will be celebrating won't you stanley are you inviting your mate alpine round to share a bottle of cider? Hone did recognise there was a problem but he is quite happy probably living on the money he earnt at SFC Crouch was still living in Wilde's fantasy world that investment was round the corner highly unlikely as you say because of the credit crunch. Lowe failed to keep us in the Premiership and failed to keep us out of Administration but was not completely to blame for getting the club into the situation it is today
alpine_saint Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe. I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him. I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster You really are a piece of work...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Hone did recognise there was a problem but he is quite happy probably living on the money he earnt at SFC Crouch was still living in Wilde's fantasy world that investment was round the corner highly unlikely as you say because of the credit crunch. Lowe failed to keep us in the Premiership and failed to keep us out of Administration but was not completely to blame for getting the club into the situation it is today Crouch isn't really to blame. I think Burley has a lot to answer for. The buck stops with Lowe and Wilde, although as eluded to, Wilde is the big villain in this piece. Without spunking £8m on players we would now not be defaulting £8m into our overdraft.
Daren W Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today. But surely Wilde is the main culprit I think the total, complete and utter shambles of mockery of a shambles that this season has become is completely and utterly down to Rupert Lowe and no other...
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Crouch isn't really to blame. I think Burley has a lot to answer for. The buck stops with Lowe and Wilde, although as eluded to, Wilde is the big villain in this piece. Without spunking £8m on players we would now not be defaulting £8m into our overdraft. No Crouch is not to blame much but he was taken in by Wilde's fantasies that is my point. I just wish he had worked with Lowe in 2006 thats all
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 I think the total, complete and utter shambles of mockery of a shambles that this season has become is completely and utterly down to Rupert Lowe and no other... Wilde brought in Lowe and agrred with what he was doing. Cost cutting was always going to lead to bad team performances but I hoped we could have won three or four games and would have been slightly further up the table. Last season we were not much better hardly winning away
SaintRichmond Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages Lowe tried to save it ??? By Dismissing Nigel Pearson Going for an Academy Youth Team Bringing in TWO untried Dutch people Selling any experienced player capable of scoring a Goal Loaning out other experienced players that are scoring Goals for our CCC Opponents Think again my friend ....... his pride was hurt when he was ousted ........ He came back on a mission ........ nearly accomplished Lowe IS the Destroyer of Saints ..... aided of course by Judas Wilde's backing
Stubby Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 I'm just an ordinary fan, and this is my first post. The idea of Lowe staying after this is absolutely unthinkable. Surely even he must realise that now.
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 (edited) Lowe tried to save it ??? By Dismissing Nigel Pearson Going for an Academy Youth Team Bringing in TWO untried Dutch people Selling any experienced player capable of scoring a Goal Loaning out other experienced players that are scoring Goals for our CCC Opponents Think again my friend ....... his pride was hurt when he was ousted ........ He came back on a mission ........ nearly accomplished Lowe IS the Destroyer of Saints ..... aided of course by Judas Wilde's backing You maybe right but I thought he was cutting costs to try to balance the books and save us from Administration. But what do I know Whatever he tried to do did not work. But then it was virtually an impossible task as he could not sell the high earners I still think Wilde destroyed the club not Lowe but both should go Edited 1 April, 2009 by John B
SaintRichmond Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 I'm just an ordinary fan, and this is my first post. The idea of Lowe staying after this is absolutely unthinkable. Surely even he must realise that now. You really are new ?? Lowe will be the LAST to leave ......... he will turn out the light .......... and take HIS light bulb
John B Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 You really are new ?? Lowe will be the LAST to leave ......... he will turn out the light .......... and take HIS light bulb There is no money in it for Lowe surely he will be off Not so certain about Wilde he is the Football Chairman not Lowe
Daren W Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Wilde brought in Lowe and agrred with what he was doing. Cost cutting was always going to lead to bad team performances but I hoped we could have won three or four games and would have been slightly further up the table. Last season we were not much better hardly winning away Agreed with maybe but didn't actually do it. Forget cost cutting, that's a smokescreen, the decision to bring in Poortvielt for Pearson was absolutely ridiculous... In an actual of pure petulance and ego, Lowe took out a perfectly good manager and replaced him with a man who had no experience of English football whatsoever.. It was an act of complete and utter madness and it has completely and utterly ruined this season..
spain saint Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 I honestly cant believe that anyone could not blame Rupert Lowe for destroying this club!!! Yes Wilde is to blame as well, but surely no one can say that this is not Mr Lowes fault for many many years of mis-management. Imho Wilde is just a small part of the bigger picture.
Foxstone Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Mike "COYR" Wilde was the idiot selling himself in 2006 as the "evolution not revolution" saviour who would take us to a whole new world.. Well since he appeared on the scene he certainly has took us to a whole new world but not the world we fans hoped for back then !
Mole Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 Michael Wilde has been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster. The same goes for Lowe. Wilde OUT. Lowe OUT.
solentstars Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages it was those idiot directors last season who increased the overdraft big time last season when we also lost the parachute payments they should have been cutting costs and offloading players instead of giveing silly money to jason euall etc i do not blame crouch has he was only their a shorttime last season.
Foxstone Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 it was those idiot directors last season who increased the overdraft big time last season when we also lost the parachute payments they should have been cutting costs and offloading players instead of giveing silly money to jason euall etc i do not blame crouch has he was only their a shorttime last season.[/quote] That is no excuse, he has been involved at various times with the stewardship of this club, and he takes his fair share of the blame along with a whole host of others.
georgeg Posted 1 April, 2009 Posted 1 April, 2009 WE have been trying to get investment for years I wonder what constitutes "trying" - is it lowe sitting on his arse waiting for the phone to ring saying (and I've heard him say this) "well they know where we are if they want to invest!" or is trying having some charasmatic Southampton FC figure going out into the business community and actually selling the club I think I know the answer
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