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Yes

As far as im concerned these two people are the cause of everything bad that has happened to this club. Their mismanagement has brought the club to its knees. They came back saying they were the only ones who could save the club. One year later and the club is taking its last breaths.

 

LOWE AND WILDE OUT

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Does a bear shiit in the wood ?

 

Depends on what type of bear were talking about. A better then your average bear might not! He would steal your picnic basket though. Which again is Lowes fault!

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does a bear shiit in the wood ?

 

Rupert lowe : Destroyer of 124 years of proud history in the pursuit of a quick buck.

 

amen!

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Nah, let's give 'em another chance - who knows, Lowe might put in a bit of his own money, appoint a decent manager, keep away from the changing room and training ground, find new investment etc. And then there's always the f-ing world-class catering to save us....oh.

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Does a bear shiit in the wood ?

 

Rupert Lowe : Destroyer of 124 years of proud history in the pursuit of a quick buck.

 

It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it

 

It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages

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here we go again...

 

So Lowe isnt to blame at all?? :rolleyes:

 

Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today.

 

But surely Wilde is the main culprit

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Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today.

 

But surely Wilde is the main culprit

 

all links in a very long chain, with Wilde and Lowe at either end.

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all links in a very long chain, with Wilde and Lowe at either end.

 

Yes I totally agree but as most people hate Lowe he gets all the blame when I think lots should be heaped on Wilde and his fantasies.

 

Even now fans think Investment fist spouted by Wilde will solve everything which of course it would in theory.

 

 

But in practise it is very difficult to get in large investors because of the circumstances at SFC

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Yes I agree but as most people hate Lowe he gets all the blame when I think lots should be heaped on Wilde and his fantasies.

 

Even now fans think Investment fist spouted by Wilde will solve everything which of course it would in theory.

 

 

But in practise it is very difficult to get in large investors because of the circumstances at SFC

 

You have a point. Lowe's biggest mistake was coming back I think. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

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You have a point. Lowe's biggest mistake was coming back I think. That was the straw that broke the camel's back.

 

Yes again that was Wilde thinking something could be achieved when we were already stuffed.

 

We needed to off load our high earners by selling them and not loaning them to reduce the overdraft

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Yes again that was Wilde thinking something could be achieved when we were already stuffed.

 

Lowe and Wilde together ;-)

 

also, Lowes BIGGEST mistake imo, was not investing in the playing side after FA cup final, that was the time to push on.

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Lowe and Wilde together ;-)

 

also, Lowes BIGGEST mistake imo, was not investing in the playing side after FA cup final, that was the time to push on.

 

I know everybody says that but buying in players does not guarantee success.

 

 

Where was the money to come from? We were investing in the Academy and if Bale Walcott Jones had not been sold we would have been in administration earlier

 

 

WE have been trying to get investment for years

 

 

Losing Strachan was the key because we were rudderless

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I know everybody says that but buying in players does not guarantee success.

 

 

Where was the money to come from?

 

 

WE have been trying to get investment for years

 

we did have cash there, must have got a bit from fa cup run, europe, prem position and sky money, not to mention player sales. Didnt need vast amounts, just 1 or 2 like WGS wanted, would have been enough...but i guess we will never know.

 

Also, RL wanted waaay to much per share, if as rumoured a while ago people were interested but he turned down bids, bet he wished he had taken it now

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we did have cash there, must have got a bit from fa cup run, europe, prem position and sky money, not to mention player sales. Didnt need vast amounts, just 1 or 2 like WGS wanted, would have been enough...but i guess we will never know.

 

Also, RL wanted waaay to much per share, if as rumoured a while ago people were interested but he turned down bids, bet he wished he had taken it now

 

Yes but at the time the Sky money was not as big as it is today

 

But as you rightly know say it is only ifs and whats.

 

 

The investment Wilde put in has really caused the problem because it did not bring success and we have to pay the wages of the players

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Yes but at the time the Sky money was not as big as it is today

 

But as you rightly know say it is only ifs and whats.

 

 

The investment Wilde put in has really caused the problem because it did not bring success and we have to pay the wages of the players

 

The investment Wilde put in !! your having a laugh right, he did not put one penny in, despite all his pledges to do so, the man is a fraud, will he have the guts to turn on Saturday !!!!!

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The investment Wilde put in !! your having a laugh right, he did not put one penny in, despite all his pledges to do so, the man is a fraud, will he have the guts to turn on Saturday !!!!!

 

Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe.

 

 

I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him.

 

 

I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster

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Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe.

 

 

I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him.

 

 

I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster

 

Equally! Lowe started the domino effect, Wilde carried it on, then they both join together to make sure they all fall over :-(

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Equally! Lowe started the domino effect, Wilde carried it on, then they both join together to make sure they all fall over :-(

 

Yes but whoever was in charge this season would probably have led us to administration.

 

 

I bet Crouch is really happy he is just like us a fan.

 

 

It is the same with the UK economy the Tories and Liberals are laughing because they not in charge

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A sad day but St Marco its easy to lay the blame at Lowe and wilde

 

But the world financial melt down has a big say in what has happened.

I think a number of other clubs will now follow suit, they were just waiting for the first club to put it head above the parapet.

 

Oh and Crouch , hone and co are equally to blame if you look at last years accounts

 

Still one at least one **** on here will be celebrating won't you stanley

are you inviting your mate alpine round to share a bottle of cider?

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A sad day but St Marco its easy to lay the blame at Lowe and wilde

 

But the world financial melt down has a big say in what has happened.

I think a number of other clubs will now follow suit, they were just waiting for the first club to put it head above the parapet.

 

Oh and Crouch , hone and co are equally to blame if you look at last years accounts

 

Still one at least one **** on here will be celebrating won't you stanley

are you inviting your mate alpine round to share a bottle of cider?

 

 

Hone did recognise there was a problem but he is quite happy probably living on the money he earnt at SFC

 

 

Crouch was still living in Wilde's fantasy world that investment was round the corner highly unlikely as you say because of the credit crunch.

 

 

Lowe failed to keep us in the Premiership and failed to keep us out of Administration but was not completely to blame for getting the club into the situation it is today

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Well he did spend £8 million on players but in general I agree with your sentiments thats why I think he is a lot more culpable than Lowe.

 

 

I also blame Crouch a little for believing Wilde's fantasies and backing him.

 

 

I know fans wanted Lowe out but getting in Wilde has turned into a disaster

 

You really are a piece of work...:rolleyes:

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Hone did recognise there was a problem but he is quite happy probably living on the money he earnt at SFC

 

 

Crouch was still living in Wilde's fantasy world that investment was round the corner highly unlikely as you say because of the credit crunch.

 

 

Lowe failed to keep us in the Premiership and failed to keep us out of Administration but was not completely to blame for getting the club into the situation it is today

 

Crouch isn't really to blame. I think Burley has a lot to answer for.

 

The buck stops with Lowe and Wilde, although as eluded to, Wilde is the big villain in this piece. Without spunking £8m on players we would now not be defaulting £8m into our overdraft.

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Obviously he was responsible for taking us down but not for causing the mess we are in today.

 

But surely Wilde is the main culprit

 

I think the total, complete and utter shambles of mockery of a shambles that this season has become is completely and utterly down to Rupert Lowe and no other...

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Crouch isn't really to blame. I think Burley has a lot to answer for.

 

The buck stops with Lowe and Wilde, although as eluded to, Wilde is the big villain in this piece. Without spunking £8m on players we would now not be defaulting £8m into our overdraft.

 

No Crouch is not to blame much but he was taken in by Wilde's fantasies that is my point.

 

I just wish he had worked with Lowe in 2006 thats all

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I think the total, complete and utter shambles of mockery of a shambles that this season has become is completely and utterly down to Rupert Lowe and no other...

 

Wilde brought in Lowe and agrred with what he was doing.

 

 

Cost cutting was always going to lead to bad team performances but I hoped we could have won three or four games and would have been slightly further up the table.

 

Last season we were not much better hardly winning away

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It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it

 

It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages

 

Lowe tried to save it ???

 

By

 

Dismissing Nigel Pearson

Going for an Academy Youth Team

Bringing in TWO untried Dutch people

Selling any experienced player capable of scoring a Goal

Loaning out other experienced players that are scoring Goals for our CCC Opponents

 

Think again my friend ....... his pride was hurt when he was ousted ........ He came back on a mission ........ nearly accomplished

 

Lowe IS the Destroyer of Saints ..... aided of course by Judas Wilde's backing

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I'm just an ordinary fan, and this is my first post.

The idea of Lowe staying after this is absolutely unthinkable. Surely even he must realise that now.

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Lowe tried to save it ???

 

By

 

Dismissing Nigel Pearson

Going for an Academy Youth Team

Bringing in TWO untried Dutch people

Selling any experienced player capable of scoring a Goal

Loaning out other experienced players that are scoring Goals for our CCC Opponents

 

Think again my friend ....... his pride was hurt when he was ousted ........ He came back on a mission ........ nearly accomplished

 

Lowe IS the Destroyer of Saints ..... aided of course by Judas Wilde's backing

 

You maybe right but I thought he was cutting costs to try to balance the books and save us from Administration.

 

But what do I know

 

 

Whatever he tried to do did not work.

 

 

But then it was virtually an impossible task as he could not sell the high earners

 

I still think Wilde destroyed the club not Lowe but both should go

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I'm just an ordinary fan, and this is my first post.

The idea of Lowe staying after this is absolutely unthinkable. Surely even he must realise that now.

 

You really are new ??

 

Lowe will be the LAST to leave ......... he will turn out the light .......... and take HIS light bulb

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You really are new ??

 

Lowe will be the LAST to leave ......... he will turn out the light .......... and take HIS light bulb

 

There is no money in it for Lowe surely he will be off

 

 

Not so certain about Wilde he is the Football Chairman not Lowe

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Wilde brought in Lowe and agrred with what he was doing.

 

 

Cost cutting was always going to lead to bad team performances but I hoped we could have won three or four games and would have been slightly further up the table.

 

Last season we were not much better hardly winning away

 

Agreed with maybe but didn't actually do it.

Forget cost cutting, that's a smokescreen, the decision to bring in Poortvielt for Pearson was absolutely ridiculous... In an actual of pure petulance and ego, Lowe took out a perfectly good manager and replaced him with a man who had no experience of English football whatsoever..

It was an act of complete and utter madness and it has completely and utterly ruined this season..

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I honestly cant believe that anyone could not blame Rupert Lowe for destroying this club!!! Yes Wilde is to blame as well, but surely no one can say that this is not Mr Lowes fault for many many years of mis-management. Imho Wilde is just a small part of the bigger picture.

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Mike "COYR" Wilde was the idiot selling himself in 2006 as the "evolution not revolution" saviour who would take us to a whole new world..

 

Well since he appeared on the scene he certainly has took us to a whole new world but not the world we fans hoped for back then !

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Michael Wilde has been nothing short of an unmitigated disaster. The same goes for Lowe.

 

Wilde OUT.

 

Lowe OUT.

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It is not Lowe who destroyed the club he tried to save it

 

It was Michael Wilde and those players bought in on huge wages

 

it was those idiot directors last season who increased the overdraft big time last season when we also lost the parachute payments they should have been cutting costs and offloading players instead of giveing silly money to jason euall etc

i do not blame crouch has he was only their a shorttime last season.

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it was those idiot directors last season who increased the overdraft big time last season when we also lost the parachute payments they should have been cutting costs and offloading players instead of giveing silly money to jason euall etc

i do not blame crouch has he was only their a shorttime last season.[/quote]

 

That is no excuse, he has been involved at various times with the stewardship of this club, and he takes his fair share of the blame along with a whole host of others.

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WE have been trying to get investment for years

 

I wonder what constitutes "trying" - is it lowe sitting on his arse waiting for the phone to ring saying (and I've heard him say this) "well they know where we are if they want to invest!"

 

or is trying having some charasmatic Southampton FC figure going out into the business community and actually selling the club

 

I think I know the answer

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