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Out of curiosity, what was the outed persona? Ta

 

I honestly can't remember, it was so long ago. He blamed me for getting him banned the first time because I reported his aggressive posts and PMs (I was sick of the bloke.) He came back a week later and referred to me by name in one of his posts. I grew suspicious and turned out it was him. If I remember I'll let you know! (someone else on here might remember.)

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April 1, 2009

Financial woes at Southampton Football Club jeopardise listed parent

Southampton Football Club's listed parent company was teetering on the brink of administration last night after the club failed to agree an extension of its overdraft with Barclays Bank.

Shares in the AIM-listed Southampton Leisure Holdings will be suspended this morning and Begbies Traynor, the accountancy firm, is standing by to step in as administrator of the troubled club, which has struggled since it was relegated from the Premier League in 2005.

It is heavily indebted after spending more than £30 million on a 30,000-seat stadium four years ago.

Rupert Lowe, its colourful executive chairman, is well known in the City as a former Deutsche Bank banker and the present chairman of WH Ireland, the stockbroker. However, Mr Lowe's return to the club last May after a well-publicised falling-out with Michael Wilde, its chairman, has failed to arrest the decline of the club.

Barclays, which is being advised on talks with Southampton by DLA Piper, the law firm, declined to comment.

However, sources close to the situation said that the board of the club would convene this morning to make the final arrangements to put the club's parent company into administration, with the business expected to apply to a court for an order within the week.

It is understood that then the heavily indebted club will have until the end of the summer to find a buyer or face bankruptcy itself.

Southampton has a £4 million overdraft with Barclays, which it has exceeded, and it also owes Norwich Union about £24 million for its stadium.

It is understood that Barclays declined to extend Southampton's loan or invest equity on the grounds that it was not commercially viable.

However, it is hoped that moves to put the club's parent company, rather than the club itself, into administration will save it from having points docked by the Coca-Cola Championship.

The club received two years of parachute payments, totalling about £13 million, to cope with the reduction in income after relegation; however, inevitably, it was forced to sell its best young players, including Theo Walcott, the England winger, to Arsenal, and Gareth Bale, the Wales defender, to Tottenham Hotspur.

Last year, Southampton avoided relegation to the third tier of English football on the last day of the season, although it faces a similar battle again, sitting second from the bottom of the Championship.

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Why did weston saint say you had gone?

 

Because I sent Weston a message that I was getting fed up with the negativity of most of the posters and a few unhinged and I had asked Steve to cancel my account. Had Steve followed my request I would have been gone but tbh tonight saw this somewhat explosive thread and felt I wanted to add some hope that it may not be the worst of news if not great either.

 

I have an immense amount respect for Weston and whilst I don't know what he said to you, as far as he was concerned I had decided not to post and had packed it in whilst explaining my reasons for the decision. Tonight was the first time I found out I was still registered and able to log in and had given myself a self imposed exile as the forum was changed so that registered users could only view 3-4 days after a game or in less busy periods. Had I known I could have caught up more regularly. Good news is I will be posting a lot less often and reading a lot more following some sage advice from respected source.

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Very sad day for our club but we knew it was coming oneday.

 

The truth is this club needed/needs investment to go forwards. Lowe and Wilde were never going to be the people to do that. They never have been. They thought they could come back and fix things without going that route. Everybody told them that. The previous boards said without investment the club is fooked. Crouch and his people said the same thing. The difference being at least the old board and Crouch's board actively looked for that investment. The first thing Lowe did on his return was to stop discussions with Fulthorpe etc. Just getting a tiny slice of that money would of made a massive difference.

 

When it is all said and done Lowe and Wildes mis-management of this club from the prem years to the gamble of giving Burley £12m in under 2 seasons in the CCC have cost us and cost us dear. They have failed. Their positions are no longer tenable.

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April 1, 2009

 

 

Financial woes at Southampton Football Club jeopardise listed parent

 

 

Southampton Football Club's listed parent company was teetering on the brink of administration last night after the club failed to agree an extension of its overdraft with Barclays Bank.

Shares in the AIM-listed Southampton Leisure Holdings will be suspended this morning and Begbies Traynor, the accountancy firm, is standing by to step in as administrator of the troubled club, which has struggled since it was relegated from the Premier League in 2005.

It is heavily indebted after spending more than £30 million on a 30,000-seat stadium four years ago.

Rupert Lowe, its colourful executive chairman, is well known in the City as a former Deutsche Bank banker and the present chairman of WH Ireland, the stockbroker. However, Mr Lowe's return to the club last May after a well-publicised falling-out with Michael Wilde, its chairman, has failed to arrest the decline of the club.

 

Barclays, which is being advised on talks with Southampton by DLA Piper, the law firm, declined to comment.

However, sources close to the situation said that the board of the club would convene this morning to make the final arrangements to put the club's parent company into administration, with the business expected to apply to a court for an order within the week.

It is understood that then the heavily indebted club will have until the end of the summer to find a buyer or face bankruptcy itself.

Southampton has a £4 million overdraft with Barclays, which it has exceeded, and it also owes Norwich Union about £24 million for its stadium.

It is understood that Barclays declined to extend Southampton's loan or invest equity on the grounds that it was not commercially viable.

However, it is hoped that moves to put the club's parent company, rather than the club itself, into administration will save it from having points docked by the Coca-Cola Championship.

The club received two years of parachute payments, totalling about £13 million, to cope with the reduction in income after relegation; however, inevitably, it was forced to sell its best young players, including Theo Walcott, the England winger, to Arsenal, and Gareth Bale, the Wales defender, to Tottenham Hotspur.

Last year, Southampton avoided relegation to the third tier of English football on the last day of the season, although it faces a similar battle again, sitting second from the bottom of the Championship.

 

This is the bit I just can't buy here as to me the PLC and the Football Club are one and the same.

 

I just can't see the CCC allowing this type of chicanery to go through (not that I don't want them to try of course).

 

I'm presuming this will all have to be sorted PDQ as there is no way the CCC management and others will want this hanging around whilst they try and work out who actually has got relegated.

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April 1, 2009

Financial woes at Southampton Football Club jeopardise listed parent

Southampton Football Club's listed parent company was teetering on the brink of administration last night after the club failed to agree an extension of its overdraft with Barclays Bank.

Shares in the AIM-listed Southampton Leisure Holdings will be suspended this morning and Begbies Traynor, the accountancy firm, is standing by to step in as administrator of the troubled club, which has struggled since it was relegated from the Premier League in 2005.

It is heavily indebted after spending more than £30 million on a 30,000-seat stadium four years ago.

Rupert Lowe, its colourful executive chairman, is well known in the City as a former Deutsche Bank banker and the present chairman of WH Ireland, the stockbroker. However, Mr Lowe's return to the club last May after a well-publicised falling-out with Michael Wilde, its chairman, has failed to arrest the decline of the club.

Barclays, which is being advised on talks with Southampton by DLA Piper, the law firm, declined to comment.

However, sources close to the situation said that the board of the club would convene this morning to make the final arrangements to put the club's parent company into administration, with the business expected to apply to a court for an order within the week.

It is understood that then the heavily indebted club will have until the end of the summer to find a buyer or face bankruptcy itself.

Southampton has a £4 million overdraft with Barclays, which it has exceeded, and it also owes Norwich Union about £24 million for its stadium.

It is understood that Barclays declined to extend Southampton's loan or invest equity on the grounds that it was not commercially viable.

However, it is hoped that moves to put the club's parent company, rather than the club itself, into administration will save it from having points docked by the Coca-Cola Championship.

The club received two years of parachute payments, totalling about £13 million, to cope with the reduction in income after relegation; however, inevitably, it was forced to sell its best young players, including Theo Walcott, the England winger, to Arsenal, and Gareth Bale, the Wales defender, to Tottenham Hotspur.

Last year, Southampton avoided relegation to the third tier of English football on the last day of the season, although it faces a similar battle again, sitting second from the bottom of the Championship.

 

 

oh poo

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This is the bit I just can't buy here as to me the PLC and the Football Club are one and the same.

 

I just can't see the CCC allowing this type of chicanery to go through (not that I don't want them to try of course).

 

I'm presuming this will all have to be sorted PDQ as there is no way the CCC management and others will want this hanging around whilst they try and work out who actually has got relegated.

 

Not if trying gets them relegated this season and on minus 17 next!

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guys, havent we had a few too many 'admin tommorows' recently for people to believe nothing.

 

this aint going to happen. if it was the administrators wouldn't have allowed us to offer new contracts to thomson and perry

 

Unfortunately it's on the times website or I would be inclined to agree with you.

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Not if trying gets them relegated this season and on minus 17 next!

 

I was thinking more of crossing everything and somehow pulling off a scam where the PLC goes in to admin and the football club does not, thus avoiding any points deduction.

 

I can't see it could be done so maybe it's just wishful thinking on this dark night!!!!!!!

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This is the bit I just can't buy here as to me the PLC and the Football Club are one and the same.

 

I just can't see the CCC allowing this type of chicanery to go through (not that I don't want them to try of course).

 

I'm presuming this will all have to be sorted PDQ as there is no way the CCC management and others will want this hanging around whilst they try and work out who actually has got relegated.

 

I agree, I think this is an idea that they have come with up as a last desperate attempt to avoid that 10 pt or more deduction.

 

If Ashley as owner of Newcastke went bankrupt could he be divorced from the club as a separate entity. Surely the club would be classed as an asset of his as Saints i presume is an asset of SLH. The two are intrinsicly linked IMO.

 

Bang goes the 'it may not be that bad news theory'!

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I was thinking more of crossing everything and somehow pulling off a scam where the PLC goes in to admin and the football club does not, thus avoiding any points deduction.

 

I can't see it could be done so maybe it's just wishful thinking on this dark night!!!!!!!

 

Well yeah but I can imagine the FL taking a very dim view of something like this. I could imagine them imposing sanctions for beating the system.

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Source?

 

SSN and its been confirmed he will take over for the rest of the season as from tomorrow morning.

 

The rumour I heard a lil while back was a rehash of Shearer coming to us following a takeover from a yet unknown money man at the end of the season.

 

Either it was a load of balls (most likly option)

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Said money man got no-where near taking us over so Shearer took what was offered up north. He is surly in a no lose situation up there so cant blame him taking that job ahead of anything he may be offered elsewhere fact or fictional.

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Well Alan Shearer is not joining us. he's about to takeover at newcastle for the remainder of the season

 

So thats one rumour put to bed

 

Shearer obviously became fed up waiting for the Fulthorpe deal to materialise.;)

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Posted this on the share movement thread

 

Just got home from a dinner in Sindlesham, Berkshire. Whilst i was there I took a phone call to say that the shares will be suspended at 7am tomorrow. The information was not known until after the market closed tonight.

 

Someone is still working to try to bring in a buyer but if it does not happen by the time of the board meeting tomorrow 11am (I am told) we will be appointing an Administrator.

 

Sad time for SFC.

 

Like FF I have received this from 2 sources.

 

The points deduction is suspended until the end of the season. If we are in the bottom 3 (before deduction) we take the hit next season. If we finish outside the bottom 3 the 10 points are applied. Whatever way you look at it we start next season in Div 1. Lets hope it is without the 10 points deduction by getting out of the bottom 3.

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I was thinking more of crossing everything and somehow pulling off a scam where the PLC goes in to admin and the football club does not, thus avoiding any points deduction.

 

I can't see it could be done so maybe it's just wishful thinking on this dark night!!!!!!!

If it does the trick then I expect that the rules will be changed because of us and this manouevre may go down in history as 'doing a Saints'

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