Mole Posted 19 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 April, 2009 Watch this vid and on 28 secs tell me if you laugh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uQe8TKXnUQ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 (edited) Watch this vid and on 28 secs tell me if you laugh. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uQe8TKXnUQ That's a fair perspective from the loony left BBC Stanley. Iain Tomlinson was clearly wronged as he wanted no part in the protests. The woman who is haranguing the police was there for a fight, no matter which way she puts it. But, it seems, that even with the protesters some of the police involved had camoflaged their badges. This has occurred before and the Met have said it wouldn't happen again. Well, they are wrong. So some heads have to roll. Edited 19 April, 2009 by TopGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 19 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 April, 2009 That's a fair perspective from the loony left BBC Stanley. Iain Tomlinson was clearly wronged as he wanted no part in the protests. The woman who is haranguing the police was there for a fight, no matter which way she puts it. But, it seems, that even with the protesters some of the police involved had camoflaged their badges. This has occurred before and the Met have said it wouldn't happen again. Well, they are wrong. So some heads have to roll. What's that got to do with the price of fish? I was asking who lol'd on 28 secs of the vid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Boy Saint Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 That's a fair perspective from the loony left BBC Stanley. Iain Tomlinson was clearly wronged as he wanted no part in the protests. The woman who is haranguing the police was there for a fight, no matter which way she puts it. But, it seems, that even with the protesters some of the police involved had camoflaged their badges. This has occurred before and the Met have said it wouldn't happen again. Well, they are wrong. So some heads have to roll. That's at the next dust up when everyone with filming equipment will be decapitated on sight. That woman who got a back hander and a length of his truncheon got what she deserved; the copper told her to go away but she had to pull the Tigers tail not once but twice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 What's that got to do with the price of fish? I was asking who lol'd on 28 secs of the vid. tbf Stanley your reputation as a poster is only built by yourself. I was trying to help you out and do justice to the clip. Never mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 That's at the next dust up when everyone with filming equipment will be decapitated on sight. That woman who got a back hander and a length of his truncheon got what she deserved; the copper told her to go away but she had to pull the Tigers tail not once but twice. Agreed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 19 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 April, 2009 tbf Stanley your reputation as a poster is only built by yourself. I was trying to help you out and do justice to the clip. Never mind. You've lost me, never mind.:smt102 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 But on the civil liberties side, there's a question about whether the police have been political rather than law enforcing. I'm sure you all know Shami Chakrabarti etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 19 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 April, 2009 But on the civil liberties side, there's a question about whether the police have been political rather than law enforcing. I'm sure you all know Shami Chakrabarti etc. I'm all for pulling out of the EU human rights agreement so i guess you could say me and Miss Chakrabarti don't see eye to eye, but much like Cherie Blair i'm not sure how much she believes in out of principle and how much she believes in for financial reasons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 I'm all for pulling out of the EU human rights agreement so i guess you could say me and Miss Chakrabarti don't see eye to eye, but much like Cherie Blair i'm not sure how much she believes in out of principle and how much she believes in for financial reasons. I won't argue with that with reference to her particularly. But the wider subject remains. I'm sure that even you Stanley will agree that the police were used as a political and military weapon against the miners in 1985. The G20 thing seems to have elements of the same, even if not sanctioned from above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 19 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 19 April, 2009 I won't argue with that with reference to her particularly. But the wider subject remains. I'm sure that even you Stanley will agree that the police were used as a political and military weapon against the miners in 1985. The G20 thing seems to have elements of the same, even if not sanctioned from above. You have to look at the history of G20 demonstrations. This is a hardcore of organised anarchists that operate on a global scale. They are intent on vandalism and violence. They also desecrated the Cenotaph with grafiti a few years back. The police were out to stop a repeat. That is not to say the special riot section aren't thugs in uniform - they clearly are, that is why they are employed in that position. If lessons are to be learnt i'm sure the main one will be to be a little more discrete and drag miscreants away from prying eyes before "enforcing the law" in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 19 April, 2009 Share Posted 19 April, 2009 You have to look at the history of G20 demonstrations. This is a hardcore of organised anarchists that operate on a global scale. They are intent on vandalism and violence. They also desecrated the Cenotaph with grafiti a few years back. The police were out to stop a repeat. That is not to say the special riot section aren't thugs in uniform - they clearly are, that is why they are employed in that position. If lessons are to be learnt i'm sure the main one will be to be a little more discrete and drag miscreants away from prying eyes before "enforcing the law" in future. Lol at your cenotaph point. The monuments and statues of all that is great and good have been vandalised since time immerorium. By activists, hooligans and general punks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jawillwill Posted 20 April, 2009 Share Posted 20 April, 2009 I see that the IPCC is to investigate a third incident. Have they completely given up on climate change these days. Talk about dumbing down. That's like moving from a science to a social science :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warsash saint Posted 20 April, 2009 Share Posted 20 April, 2009 Just heard that on the radio that the woman who was hit on the legs 'Feared for her life' Lol of course she did, as soon as Max Clifford took her under his wing. & bagged £50,000 for the shoptlifting, ex-heroine addict :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doublesaint Posted 20 April, 2009 Share Posted 20 April, 2009 & bagged £50,000 for the shoptlifting, ex-heroine addict :mad: She had a fixation on Florence Nightingale or Mother Theresa? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff leopard Posted 20 April, 2009 Share Posted 20 April, 2009 Lest we forget that many of the rights (rights that have elevated us from the role of worker-drones) that we take for granted in this day and age were not just handed down to us. People had to wrestle them out of the hands of the powers-that-be, through peaceful and violent protest, resorting to guerilla warfare/terrorist tactics, and many people had to die for this. And I have no doubt that the blinkered/reactionary idiots of the time enjoyed slating their actions, labelling them anarchist scum and chearing on the police as they cracked heads. If we loose the right to protest (or at least have to expect to be seriously assualted if we dare speak out) then free speech will be next. And if you approve of the police tactics employed here then don't be surprised that if in the future you, or members of your family, go to a football game and find yourself kettled for 8 hours with no food or water. And as you sit there, p1ssing in your pants, don’t forget the role you played in allowing this to happen. As my man Vass said over the week-end, the police are our servants, not our masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeff leopard Posted 20 April, 2009 Share Posted 20 April, 2009 The police use force to pus back protesters now they want them sacked. What about the many more protectors throwing bricks at the police??? This isn't in the news any more. Probably the biggest threat to the 'reform' movement is the media going too far the other way, kettling people into a position of feeling sorry for the police. The female protester running into the arms of Max Clifford leaves a very bad taste in the mouth, almost as bad as the footage of her being slapped and then struck. The police must have the right to use force when appropraite, but they cant be allowed to resort to punishing the majority for the actions of a tiny minority. And this goes the other way too, we can't deem all coppers as ****s just because a handful got slap-happy. As we've all seen in the Isreal/Palastine conflict, collective punishment just makes a bad situation much much worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 20 April, 2009 Share Posted 20 April, 2009 The police use force to pus back protesters now they want them sacked. What about the many more protectors throwing bricks at the police??? This isn't in the news any more. I'm all for protesters who cross the line getting banged up, just the same as any copper who does wrong. The problem is the courts will pass down pathetic non-custodial sentences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 20 April, 2009 Share Posted 20 April, 2009 Lest we forget that many of the rights (rights that have elevated us from the role of worker-drones) that we take for granted in this day and age were not just handed down to us. People had to wrestle them out of the hands of the powers-that-be, through peaceful and violent protest, resorting to guerilla warfare/terrorist tactics, and many people had to die for this. And I have no doubt that the blinkered/reactionary idiots of the time enjoyed slating their actions, labelling them anarchist scum and chearing on the police as they cracked heads. If we loose the right to protest (or at least have to expect to be seriously assualted if we dare speak out) then free speech will be next. And if you approve of the police tactics employed here then don't be surprised that if in the future you, or members of your family, go to a football game and find yourself kettled for 8 hours with no food or water. And as you sit there, p1ssing in your pants, don’t forget the role you played in allowing this to happen. As my man Vass said over the week-end, the police are our servants, not our masters.A percentage of protesters go to maim and cause destruction. if a policemen had been seperated however good or bad a copper he was he would have taken a severe beting or worse. Yes people have a right to protest but many live to bring our society down. I didnt see many people complaining when the countryside march turned into the police beating up a load of the marchers that day. Country peope wishoing to uphold their life . As for the man who died , it was pointed out that he may well have received his internal injuries by someboidy giving him resusitation, if his spleen or liver was enlarged that could have been the reason.We have to wait and see. the oliceman hittng him was uncalled for and he should be punished.The woman well.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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