saintwarwick Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/latest/2009/03/30/veterans-could-get-id-cards-for-nhs-115875-21238757/ The government are looking at issuing special ID cards to forces veterans, they could get priority treatment on the NHS amongst many things. Brilliant idea IMO even though I'm bias. The forces do a brilliant job and deserve to be looked after when in civvy street. What do others think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 I also think the govt. should show more respect to the Gurkas. It takes the p1ss how economic migrants get treated better than the brave men of Nepal who have showed unstinting loyalty to the crown for so many years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 For once, we agree, Stanley - I certainly think the Gurkhas should get better treatment, and as far as I'm concerned, anyone willing to die for this country should be damn well given first dibs to live here if anyone is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Good stuff..... that should mean that I no longer need my private healthcare?! Discounts as well! Get in there, at least I know I would have earnt them, unlike them student c*nts who get discounts simply for being c*nts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Well done Stuart. I'm impressed you managed to shoehorn in a "You don't know, man! You weren't there!" rant against students so early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I also think the govt. should show more respect to the Gurkas. It takes the p1ss how economic migrants get treated better than the brave men of Nepal who have showed unstinting loyalty to the crown for so many years. Stanley, I have to say that I have found something on which I completely agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Good stuff..... that should mean that I no longer need my private healthcare?! Discounts as well! Get in there, at least I know I would have earnt them, unlike them student c*nts who get discounts simply for being c*nts. Stu; the armed forces are public servants, paid for by the working man's taxes, and also, how do you think these subsidies will be funded ? When the students are reaping the rewards of their education, their taxes provide for these services. Or maybe they should be permitted to opt out of paying for military adventures theyn don't agree with, and the spreading of democracy at the point of a gun ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Stu; the armed forces are public servants, paid for by the working man's taxes, and also, how do you think these subsidies will be funded ? When the students are reaping the rewards of their education, their taxes provide for these services. Or maybe they should be permitted to opt out of paying for military adventures theyn don't agree with, and the spreading of democracy at the point of a gun ? lol, are we really going to go down the same old road of you telling me that all students will be paying more tax, and me telling you it's b*llocks as half of them are doing pointless courses? Save it for another thread. And anyway, lots and lots of student discounts can be found in bars, clubs, shops, sports venues etc, it would be nice and certainly more deserved if there was an 'ex-forces' category in with Child, Student, Adult and OAP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 lol, are we really going to go down the same old road of you telling me that all students will be paying more tax, and me telling you it's b*llocks as half of them are doing pointless courses? Save it for another thread. Actually no I am not, but then again not all students are c@nts are they ? I don't disgree with the main point of this thread, but you, predictably, had to get your cheap dig in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I do not just because someone is "ex forces" they should get priority NHS treatment???? :smt017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 All public and private service providers should offer forces discounts imo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GenevaSaint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/latest/2009/03/30/veterans-could-get-id-cards-for-nhs-115875-21238757/ The government are looking at issuing special ID cards to forces veterans, they could get priority treatment on the NHS amongst many things. Brilliant idea IMO even though I'm bias. The forces do a brilliant job and deserve to be looked after when in civvy street. What do others think? For how long? For ever? Why should someone who's served 3 years get preferential treatment over me for say something serious such as cancer treatment? Or a hip replacement? If the injury was sustained in the line of duty absolutely, otherwise no. What if this person was dishonourably discharged etc? If I've been paying top whack NI and tax for 20 years how does someone jump the queue above me if they were in the services for the minimum term and come out aged 21? I've not read the mirror article, but there are potentially lots of issues here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 :smt017 I think you can just about work out what he meant Scotty my lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Having been a Junior Leader, and then 22 under the flag, I have to be in favour of this..it's a difficult time for us vetrans you know:D:smt083 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smirking_Saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Totally agree with this, believe that the treatment our veterans recieve is terrible, just seem to get forgotton, especially the ones that fought for our freedom i.e world wars. And the ghurkas are just treated completely unfairly. However i see the potential landmine issues that this will undoubtedly drag up. Maybe having a minimum service time or action seen or something :smt017 lol, are we really going to go down the same old road of you telling me that all students will be paying more tax, and me telling you it's b*llocks as half of them are doing pointless courses? Save it for another thread. And anyway, lots and lots of student discounts can be found in bars, clubs, shops, sports venues etc, it would be nice and certainly more deserved if there was an 'ex-forces' category in with Child, Student, Adult and OAP As for the above quote, wow, that quite alot of animosity towards the students, without which many of the services we recieve would not be available. I do agree that many seem just to p*ss it up and do next to nothing however if they do take up the pointless degree courses etc they end up paying for them without having anything to show. I have been a student, both at college where i undertook the A levels and Btec course that got me the job i have now and i am currently half way through my degree in electrical engineering, albiet that i am employed and so paid to undertake the course i am still a student. A bit of a stereotype i feel. And yes i would say the majority of students would end up paying back more taxes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 18 Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 As an ex serviceman myself I would be in total favour of this scheme, particuarly If I walked into casualty with a splinter then I do believe I should be seen before some civvy scrote with his leg half amputated. I also feel that my local pub should offer a large discount an any acoholic beverage I wish to purchase with no limits on quantity. I would also expect free petrol and flights to go and visit as many fellow ex servicemen as I choose, I happen to have some good mates in Newcastle Liverpool and America. Thank you Gordon, please introduce it NOW Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Why should someone who's served 3 years get preferential treatment over me Difficult to qualify that, surely would depend on where those 3 years were spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tombletomble Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Difficult to qualify that, surely would depend on where those 3 years were spent. This is why I think you have to be careful with this proposal. I have a lot of respect for the forces for doing something that i would not be willing to do. However, they join up through there own choice. In a situation where, for example, two patients both required treatment for cancer. One of them served in the forces for 10 years the other spent that time being a teacher I think that it would be hugely unfair for thew ex forces patient to automatically get preferential treatment. They have both given their time for the benifit of our society. Why through the NHS that we all pay in to should some be more equal than others Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mack rill Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 As i was at the sharp end of the Cod War,,,,,Do you reckon i should qualify for free fish and chips Stuey? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Block 18 Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 As i was at the sharp end of the Cod War,,,,,Do you reckon i should qualify for free fish and chips Stuey? Be interested to know if you were on the "Lincoln" for that little event. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 As an ex-serviceman I of course agree with this but, as has been raised above, there should be caveats. For example: someone who served 3 years in the RAF, sat mostly at Hendon or such like, should not (IMO) get preferential treatment. But someone who has served the full 22, or who has been forced to retire due to injuries occurred during service, or who has spent x-amount of time on the front line (e.g. 2-3x6 month tours and having been under fire in Iraq or Afgahnistan) should most definitely get something for putting their life on the line for Queen and country. And no, it is nothing like the same as teachers do. I know, I spent 25 years in the RN and am now a teacher! Incidentaly, this is one area where the USA are definitely better than the UK. When there service personnel retire they get an ID card with the rate they were of at retirement with 'rtd' after it. They are then permitted full use of US military bases 'worldwide' including the medical facilities, gyms, bars, duty free shops, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I get free private healthcare with my NUS card. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I agree with Stu though, ex-forces should definitely be entitled to 10% off at Top Man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I agree with Stu though, ex-forces should definitely be entitled to 10% off at Top Man. Hmmm, I thought this was the lounge not TMS. :confused::smt017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 As an ex-serviceman I of course agree with this but, as has been raised above, there should be caveats. For example: someone who served 3 years in the RAF, sat mostly at Hendon or such like, should not (IMO) get preferential treatment. But someone who has served the full 22, or who has been forced to retire due to injuries occurred during service, or who has spent x-amount of time on the front line (e.g. 2-3x6 month tours and having been under fire in Iraq or Afgahnistan) should most definitely get something for putting their life on the line for Queen and country. And no, it is nothing like the same as teachers do. I know, I spent 25 years in the RN and am now a teacher! Incidentaly, this is one area where the USA are definitely better than the UK. When there service personnel retire they get an ID card with the rate they were of at retirement with 'rtd' after it. They are then permitted full use of US military bases 'worldwide' including the medical facilities, gyms, bars, duty free shops, etc. Full agreement with the above from another Serviceman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Er, don't servicemen join up to defend the right of the common man to be treated equally and fairly? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minsk Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 Er, don't servicemen join up to defend the right of the common man to be treated equally and fairly? No, we sign up to get to travel the world at the tax-payer's expense and to qualify for a pension at the age of 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 and to kill people legally...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 2 April, 2009 Share Posted 2 April, 2009 and to kill people legally...... Are you suggesting you like to kill people? Would you like to sexually violate them first? Or perhaps after? Or do you just get off on the killing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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