revolution saint Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 IMO New Labour are more comunist than Socialist. The whole ethos of the party is to take money out of peoples pockets by putting up taxes so they can dictate how the money is spent. To be fair that's the ethos of every mainstream political party - they just argue over how much money and who they take it from. If you're going to call new labour communist then you could just as easily refer to the conservative party as facists. Of course they're not but in a just as tenous link as yours you could argue that they lean that way due their last election campaign focusing on immigration. Obviously it's a laughable suggestion that the conservatives are facists but so is the idea that new labour (or even old labour) are communists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Spot on (again) RS. Many 'wealthy (and not-so-wealthy) socialists' would say that, actually, they would want everyone to have the opportunities they've had and to be able to enjoy the things they enjoy. That's hardly hypocrisy, now is it Including dodgy films at the taxpayers expense?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 To be fair that's the ethos of every mainstream political party - they just argue over how much money and who they take it from. If you're going to call new labour communist then you could just as easily refer to the conservative party as facists. Of course they're not but in a just as tenous link as yours you could argue that they lean that way due their last election campaign focusing on immigration. Obviously it's a laughable suggestion that the conservatives are facists but so is the idea that new labour (or even old labour) are communists. The further to the right the Conservatives go the better. At present they are sucessfully claiming the middle ground, but i hope that once they win the next election (and they will) they move to the right more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Including dodgy films at the taxpayers expense?? It was Jacqui Smith's husband, it was a mistake, it's been (or is being paid) back. It's hardly cash for questions is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 It was Jacqui Smith's husband, it was a mistake, it's been (or is being paid) back. It's hardly cash for questions is it? It's still funny as **** given her wish to crack down on the porn industry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 The further to the right the Conservatives go the better. At present they are sucessfully claiming the middle ground, but i hope that once they win the next election (and they will) they move to the right more. I'm not so sure the tories will but you never know. I'll be willing to bet that labour and the tories fight the next election with identical manifestos that concentrate on improving services, reducing taxes and making rabbits appear from hats. Whoever gets in will pander to focus groups and concentrate on the job in hand which incidentally is not running the country but making sure they win the next election. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 It was Jacqui Smith's husband, it was a mistake, it's been (or is being paid) back. It's hardly cash for questions is it? Yes but how many times has it gone down before? Why do the paying public have to fork out for their TV and Internet links? It's just a joke. do not forget Maggie T forewent some of her salary because "her husband was a rich man". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Yes but how many times has it gone down before? Why do the paying public have to fork out for their TV and Internet links? It's just a joke. do not forget Maggie T forewent some of her salary because "her husband was a rich man". And Labour ministers have eschewed a pay increase to which they were entitled, although MPs have had their salaries increased. http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKL1734278520080617 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Yes but how many times has it gone down before? Why do the paying public have to fork out for their TV and Internet links? It's just a joke. do not forget Maggie T forewent some of her salary because "her husband was a rich man". I'm not really defending Jacqui Smith or her husband but as I understand it her internet connection was being paid for because she needed for it work. That's not particularly unusual. The mistake occurred because her TV deal was packaged with the internet connection. It was a mistake and it is embarassing for her but it's £30 quid. More embarassing is that MP who employed his sons to do non-existant work. For the life of me I can't remember what side of the house he was on but that's the kind of thing that should be highlighted. It's also individual error and I guess both major parties are equally guilty of having MPs who abuse the system. In answer to Stanley though - yes, it is kind of funny but then so is googling teresa may with safe search turned off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 It's still funny as **** given her wish to crack down on the porn industry. Probably why she's reportedly given him an 'ear bashing' and he's apologised publicly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Probably why she's reportedly given him an 'ear bashing' and he's apologised publicly. I thought that she lived round at her sister's anyway. Probably why the old man was watching porn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 I thought that she lived round at her sister's anyway. Probably why the old man was watching porn. Possibly, although I think she lives at her sister's house when she's doing her Ministerial duties and at her own house when she's doing her consituency duties. I guess her Ministerial duties take up more of her time. She should dump him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 29 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Possibly, although I think she lives at her sister's house when she's doing her Ministerial duties and at her own house when she's doing her consituency duties. I guess her Ministerial duties take up more of her time. She should dump him. We should dump her, and her comrades Go Labour! Socialism Rocks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 (edited) Possibly, although I think she lives at her sister's house when she's doing her Ministerial duties and at her own house when she's doing her consituency duties. I guess her Ministerial duties take up more of her time. She should dump him. The nonsense about adult films is a bit silly. Virgin offers a bit of tit and some soft scenes, whoopee doo. If it was that hardcore Virgin would be under pressure not to sell it. It's embarrassing for Smith but not against the law that her hubby watched a bit of light smut. The real focus should be on the fact that she claimed Virgin TV, though she says it is a "mistake". Under an FOI request it would be interesting to see how many other MPs have claimed for TV subscriptions. I bet there's a fair number. Edited 29 March, 2009 by TopGun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 The nonsense about adult films is a bit silly. Virgin offers a bit of tit and some soft scenes, whoopee doo. If it was that hardcore Virgin would be under pressure not to sell it. It's embarrassing for Smith but not against the law that her hubby watched a bit of light smut. The real focus should be on the fact that she claimed Virgin TV, though she says it is a "mistake". Under an FOI request it would be interesting to see how many other MPs have claimed for TV subscriptions. I bet there's a fair number. Well, she says it was a broadband bundle that she'd signed up for and she didn't realise it included TV. Could be I suppose - there are so many bundled deals out there these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Well, she says it was a broadband bundle that she'd signed up for and she didn't realise it included TV. Could be I suppose - there are so many bundled deals out there these days. I wouldn't argue with a basic bundled deal anyway, there's so little in it cash wise. Smith should tell her hubby there's plenty of free porn online that he can watch and keep her out of trouble! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Go Labour! Socialism Rocks! Keep going JB. If you say it often enough, you'll start believing it Come on over to the dark side, you know you want to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TopGun Posted 29 March, 2009 Share Posted 29 March, 2009 Keep going JB. If you say it often enough, you'll start believing it Come on over to the dark side, you know you want to. As JB started the thread I suspect his comment was ironic badger! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 The nonsense about adult films is a bit silly. Virgin offers a bit of tit and some soft scenes, whoopee doo. If it was that hardcore Virgin would be under pressure not to sell it. It's embarrassing for Smith but not against the law that her hubby watched a bit of light smut. The real focus should be on the fact that she claimed Virgin TV, though she says it is a "mistake". Under an FOI request it would be interesting to see how many other MPs have claimed for TV subscriptions. I bet there's a fair number. Oh Ms Smith knows her way around an expenses claim form apparently. Apparently she pays her husband (and claims for it I suppose) 20K a year to be her assistant, when he has time off from watching porn, Oceans 13 and some animated cartoon films of course.She has claimed (according to Sky News) buckets of folding for a room at her sisters, a dining room table,a sofa,a kitchen sink and a whole pile of other stuff. The woman is a profiteer of the system,why should she worry about 20£ for a couple of films when the rest runs into C of Ks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Spot on (again) RS. Many 'wealthy (and not-so-wealthy) socialists' would say that, actually, they would want everyone to have the opportunities they've had and to be able to enjoy the things they enjoy. That's hardly hypocrisy, now is it It depends if you make sure you find ways of not putting what we would call a fair shhare in the pot. I dont know what his politics are but Sir Phillip Green who owns BHS etc is a tax exile , he enjoys the wealth created here to live tax free.It is people like that who i dislike.Labour mp'S who create taxs for everyone after making sure they can avoid it as well. I want the nurses to earn 10k a wqeek the moiners 10k a week as long as i dont in any way have to fund it.It s easy to be a socialist as long as you dont have to fund it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 And as for Jackie Smith and the rest of this government, don't get me started, i had high hopes in 1997 but that has been all but destroyed by this bunch of middle class career politicians. That goes for both parties as well, though the Tories have always been career politicians.Fuengirola you can spout all your pro Labour stuff as i presume you are not having to live in all the rubbish that the government has put our way.It is their policies thqat have helped you receive 25% less for your £ now by the way. The nation is on its knees and i can see little improving, unless the country make things the world requires we cannot carry on borrowing, sooner or later the world is going to think that we are bankrupt and then the pound will go through the floor. if you rely on a pension or investments from the UK you will not be happy then either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 And Labour ministers have eschewed a pay increase to which they were entitled, although MPs have had their salaries increased. http://uk.reuters.com/article/UKNews1/idUKL1734278520080617 but they dont need pay increases as they can fiddle as much as they like and have loads of apologists who try and defend them. I have at no time tried to defend MP's of other parties who have steppd over the line, it is about time others did so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Oh Ms Smith knows her way around an expenses claim form apparently. Apparently she pays her husband (and claims for it I suppose) 20K a year to be her assistant, when he has time off from watching porn, Oceans 13 and some animated cartoon films of course.She has claimed (according to Sky News) buckets of folding for a room at her sisters, a dining room table,a sofa,a kitchen sink and a whole pile of other stuff. The woman is a profiteer of the system,why should she worry about 20£ for a couple of films when the rest runs into C of Ks. It was stated on the radio he was on 40k!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Possibly, although I think she lives at her sister's house when she's doing her Ministerial duties and at her own house when she's doing her consituency duties. I guess her Ministerial duties take up more of her time. She should dump him.and when she makes a claim for him to have treatment on his repetitive strain injury i assume that will be allowed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Spot on (again) RS. Many 'wealthy (and not-so-wealthy) socialists' would say that, actually, they would want everyone to have the opportunities they've had and to be able to enjoy the things they enjoy. That's hardly hypocrisy, now is it "Wealthy Socialists"! Now there's an oxymoron. So ultimately yes, it is hypocrisy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 It was stated on the radio he was on 40k!!! Well yes, you're probably right, I only sort of half overhead half of Sky's pitch on it yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 I feel sorry for the poor fella. He's obviously not getting enough in the Ministerial bed so felt the need to bang a couple out over some subscription p0rn. Not his fault his dozy bint of a missus decided to claim it back on expenses without checking it first. I don't think he needs to apologise for anything. So what? yeah, ok, i ordered a few mucky films, but where's the harm in that. Not his fault he's not getting enough, but he should have had the balls to say it and not cower behind his missus career by apologising like a poof. There was a time when Government Ministers were renowned for getting plenty, just read old Clarkey's diaries, but whether it's because there are too many doris's in the Cabinet these days, or these New Labour wimps are all too busy attending ****y old focus groups or waste-of-time think tanks late into the night instead of getting their oats, i don't know. Personally, i would like a well laid Home Secretary who was able to make chilled out rational decisions and then she wouldn't have to get all embarrassed and try to save her career when she catches her old man knocking one out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 (edited) I feel sorry for the poor fella. He's obviously not getting enough in the Ministerial bed so felt the need to bang a couple out over some subscription p0rn. Not his fault his dozy bint of a missus decided to claim it back on expenses without checking it first. I don't think he needs to apologise for anything. So what? yeah, ok, i ordered a few mucky films, but where's the harm in that. Not his fault he's not getting enough, but he should have had the balls to say it and not cower behind his missus career by apologising like a poof. There was a time when Government Ministers were renowned for getting plenty, just read old Clarkey's diaries, but whether it's because there are too many doris's in the Cabinet these days, or these New Labour wimps are all too busy attending ****y old focus groups or waste-of-time think tanks late into the night instead of getting their oats, i don't know. Personally, i would like a well laid Home Secretary who was able to make chilled out rational decisions and then she wouldn't have to get all embarrassed and try to save her career when she catches her old man knocking one out. Bof Labour MPs have always been a bit on the iffy side,remember Southampton's very own John Stonehouse ?? I worked with his sister at a holiday job once, Lady Mayoress she was because her Mum was mayor. I'm sure she might have had an inkling that he hadn't really drowned himself. Mind you the others aren't much better, Lonhro, Profumo, mind you Christine Keeler and Mandy Rice-Davies were top crumpet, better than a couple of iffy TV films. Edited 30 March, 2009 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 (edited) I feel sorry for her in respect it is embarrassing i suspect that she is not able to fulfill his needs.It is their private business but unfortunately it has been brought into the open. She will now forever have the tag pointed at her and I doubt her political career will procede much more.As a tax payer im more concerned that these claims were habitual and are just the tip of the iceberg. I also wonder if the MP had to come from the area and so it would stop MP's being parachuted in to safe seasts, that would end the arguement for constituancy homes, and also have advantage that the person elected understood the local issues. Edited 30 March, 2009 by OldNick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Durleyfos Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 What Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 I feel sorry for her in respect it is embarrassing i suspect that she is not able to fulfill his needs.. Well I don't fancy her anyway. I'd rather watch Oceans 13 if that was the only other option really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Surely every MP from all parties claims for every single penny they can. I would do the same thing in their position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Surely every MP from all parties claims for every single penny they can. I would do the same thing in their position.I agree I think they all are a bunch of snakes, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 I agree I think they all are a bunch of snakes, But some are more snakely than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuengirola Saint Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Fuengirola you can spout all your pro Labour stuff as i presume you are not having to live in all the rubbish that the government has put our way.It is their policies thqat have helped you receive 25% less for your £ now by the way. The nation is on its knees and i can see little improving, unless the country make things the world requires we cannot carry on borrowing, sooner or later the world is going to think that we are bankrupt and then the pound will go through the floor. if you rely on a pension or investments from the UK you will not be happy then either. I am Labour through and through but i feel very let down by this bunch of pampered idiots, the sleaze and expense account fiddles would still be happening if the Tories were in power. I just feel so helpless that the people of Britain now have two Centre right parties to choose from now and that is not democracy. As i said earlier they are just a bunch of career politicians now and as much as it pains me to say it at least Thatcher had some beliefs,( mind you still getting lashed up when she goes) It's the same here in Spain the Socialist Workers Party that govern are a carbon copy of New Labour, I don't rely on the exchange rate but i know a few people who do and it has affected them a bit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuengirola Saint Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 I agree I think they all are a bunch of snakes, Oh yeah you still haven't told me where you got the info about Tony Benn taking his money out of the country yet, if it's true i'll hold my hands up and never read one of his books again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 I should be visiting some friends in Nueva Andalucia in the summer. If you fancy a pint i'll be more than happy to try to educate you on the evils of socialism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuengirola Saint Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 I should be visiting some friends in Nueva Andalucia in the summer. If you fancy a pint i'll be more than happy to try to educate you on the evils of socialism. Thats right wing country eh? Marbella, i don't live in Fuengirola anymore, i'm in Málaga capital now. Too many moaning expats in the resorts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 30 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 March, 2009 (edited) Keep going JB. If you say it often enough, you'll start believing it Come on over to the dark side, you know you want to. To be fair, I am very tempted. This socialism lark pays really well. What's Blair earning these days - somewhere in the region of £12m? Prescott managed to run 2x 4.2 litre jags even with high fuel prices and it now transpires that Jacqui Smiths expense claims total £157k in the last year. So here's my plan.... I will bang on about fairness and equality, not forgetting re-distribution of wealth - I won't bother with how that wealth will be created as this doesn't matter to your average socialist. Then I will buy a red rose to wear on my jacket. I will then get pictured on some protest about something or other. Then stand for an MP. Bingo! Go Labour! Socialism Really Does Pay! (There you go, I've even changed my strapline as part of my conversion) (Oh and when I've finished my profiteering from this amazing idea, you can have a copy of "JB How I profited from Socialism and how it created wealth (for me)", signed of course) Edited 30 March, 2009 by Johnny Bognor Changed the name of my book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Thats right wing country eh? Marbella, i don't live in Fuengirola anymore, i'm in Málaga capital now. Too many moaning expats in the resorts! Visited Malaga once (and all the shops were shut for siesta). Far too much concrete to make it a place i'd wish to visit again and full of Spaniards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 To be fair, I am very tempted. This socialism lark pays really well. What's Blair earning these days - somewhere in the region of £12m? Prescott managed to run 2x 4.2 litre jags even with high fuel prices and it now transpires that Jacqui Smiths expense claims total £157k in the last year. So here's my plan.... I will bang on about fairness and equality, not forgetting re-distribution of wealth - I won't bother with how that wealth will be created as this doesn't matter to your average socialist. Then I will buy a red rose to wear on my jacket. I will then get pictured on some protest about something or other. Then stand for an MP. Bingo! Go Labour! Socialism Really Does Pay! (There you go, I've even changed my strapline as part of my conversion) (Oh and when I've finished my profiteering from this amazing idea, you can have a copy of "JB How I profited from Socialism and how it created wealth (for me)", signed of course) Nah, stay Tory, you can make just as much : "( The Tory leader in the Welsh assembly ) was heavily criticised after it emerged in a breakdown of assembly members' allowances that he, and fellow Conservative AM Alun Cairns, had claimed for portable music players worth a combined £398. Mr Bourne also claimed more than £5,000 over the past two years for his bathroom and £120 to buy trouser press." "Meanwhile, the Sunday Mail reveals Scots Tory MEP John Purvis has admitted paying £120,000 of tax payers money to a firm he owns. Millionaire landowner John Purvis funnelled the taxpayers' cash through a company, he admits to being a partner in. He claimed £120,000 in expenses for six members of staff." "And in another revelation, it was reported that Sir Robert Atkins, a Tory MEP and former minister, used his parliamentary expenses to fly to his son's wedding in America." "Den Dover, the party's chief whip in Brussels, quit over the weekend after paying his wife and daughter a reported £758,000 over nine years through a company for secretarial and support services. On Thursday, Giles Chichester, the Conservative leader in the European Parliament, resigned his post after it emerged he transferred more than £400,000 of staff expenses to a private family company." "North West MEP Sajjad Karim, who recently defected from the Liberal Democrats, admitted paying his wife £26,000 a year as an office assistant while she was a primary school teacher." "Tory MPs Sir Nicholas and Ann Winterton broke Parliamentary expenses rules by claiming rent on a £700,000 flat they had bought outright." "Senior Tory MP Jacqui Lait has claimed more than £100,000 in second-home allowances on her constituency base nine miles from Westminster." " Tory MP Bob Neill claims the second-home allowance for a flat in his constituency just over 30 minutes' drive from Westminster. ............ Mr Neill bought his flat in Chislehurst, a sought-after part of his constituency, in 2007 for £365,000. He also owns a flat in Poplar, East London - about six miles or 20 minutes' drive from Westminster. In 2006-07 he claimed £22,110 Additional Costs Allowance - the maximum for that year - even though he was elected in a by-election three months into the Commons' financial year." To quote Bruce Forsyth "Good game, good game". Over to you, JB. :D:D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Or then again maybe we all just agree that they are all robbing barstewards, regardless of their particular political colour, and start campaigning for an open and fully accountable Parliament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 30 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 March, 2009 (edited) To quote Bruce Forsyth "Good game, good game". Over to you, JB. :D:D I start with this as my opening shot.... http://timesbusiness.typepad.com/money_weblog/2009/03/mps-10-most-outrageous-expense-claims.html#more Here is a top 10 of the most claimed in staffing and office costs: Gardiner, Barry (Lab) = £123,852 Malik, Mr Shahid (Lab) = £121,086 Rogerson, Dan (LD) = £116,381 Gwynne, Andrew (Lab) = £116,060 Johnson, Ms Diana R. (Lab) = £116,005 Herbert, Mr Nick (Con) = £115,984 Newmark, Mr Brooks (Con) = £115,380 Reed, Mr Jamie (Lab) = £115,160 McCarthy, Kerry (Lab) = £114,936 Clark, Paul (Lab) = £114,313 Hmmm.....Nick and Brooks haven't really got the hang of this expense claiming. Here is the top 10 of car expenses claimed: Anderson, Janet (Lab) = £13,851 Robertson, Mr Laurence (Con) = £12,178 O'Brien, Mr Mike (Lab) = £10,564 Sheerman, Mr Barry (Lab/Co-op) = £8,802 Hoyle, Mr Lindsay (Lab) = £8,790 Vaz, Rt Hon Keith (Lab) = £8,644 Connarty, Michael (Lab) = £8,520 Barron, Rt Hon Kevin (Lab) = £8,509 Tami, Mark (Lab) = £8,420 Cook, Frank (Lab) = £8,382 Naughty Laurence, he should really join his socialist comrades!!! Here is the top 10 claims on rail travel....... Milburn, Rt Hon Alan (Lab) = £15,785 Howarth, Rt Hon George (Lab) = £14,842 Simon, Mr Siôn (Lab) = £14,176 Kaufman, Rt Hon Sir Gerald (Lab) = £13,394 Grogan, Mr John (Lab) = £13,242 Browning, Angela (Con) = £13,169 Miliband, Rt Hon Edward (Lab) = £12,579 Gwynne, Andrew (Lab) = £12,460 Smith, Geraldine (Lab) = £12,419 Taylor, David (Lab/Co-op) = £12,210 Angela really hasn't got the hang of this yet. Here are the top 10 spenders on air travel...... MacNeil, Mr Angus (SNP) = £30,560 Carmichael, Mr Alistair (LD) = £24,721 Joyce, Eric (Lab) = £22,689 Doran, Mr Frank (Lab) = £20,903 Thurso, John (LD) = £18,241 Sarwar, Mr Mohammad (Lab) = £17,295 Alexander, Danny (LD) = £16,516 Bruce, Rt Hon Malcolm (LD) = £16,403 Kennedy, Rt Hon Charles (LD) = £14,690 Salmond, Rt Hon Alex (SNP) = £14,441 Here is the top 10, based on staff members travel allowances Sarwar, Mr Mohammad (Lab) = £4,500 Begg, Miss Anne (Lab) = £4,418 Bruce, Rt Hon Malcolm (LD) = £4,179 Robertson, Angus (SNP) = £4,119 Salmond, Rt Hon Alex (SNP) = £3,821 McKenna, Rosemary (Lab) = £3,301 Battle, Rt Hon John (Lab) = £3,180 Etherington, Bill (Lab) = £3,100 Winterton, Rt Hon Rosie (Lab) = £2,980 Roy, Mr Frank (Lab)£2,937 The top 10 claimants for IT (Note this doesn't include pay per view movies) Byrne, Mr Liam (Lab) = £2,545 Blunt, Mr Crispin (Con) = £2,523 Tipping, Paddy (Lab) = £2,445 McGuire, Mrs Anne (Lab) = £1,883 Lidington, Mr David (Con) = £1,804 Follett, Barbara (Lab) = £1,788 May, Rt Hon Theresa (Con) = £1,767 Williams, Stephen (LD) = £1,739 Turner, Dr Desmond (Lab) = £1,719 Michael, Rt Hon Alun (Lab/Co-op) = £1,685 There seems to be a bit of a trend here. Do you want me to go on? Oh OK then, here is a list of the top 10 expense claimers in 2008: Malik Shahid / Labour = £185,421 Byrne Liam / Labour = £178,116 Ryan Joan / Labour = £173,691 Norris Dan / Labour = £172,733 Farron Tim / Lib Dem = £172,327 Doran Frank / Labour = £171,836 MacNeil Angus / SNP = £169,971 Levitt Tom / Labour = £168,660 Salmond Alex / SNP = £166,814 Mundell David / Conservative = £166,598 I really feel David has let the side down. THis research has convinced me that Socialism really does pay Go Labour! Socialism Really Does Pay so much better than Centre Right Politics! (Don't forget, How I profited from Socialism and how it created wealth (for me) will be available from good book stores in about 10 years time) Edited 30 March, 2009 by Johnny Bognor Just plugging my new book Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 My MP isn't on the list. Not surprising as he's not a Socialist or a wishy washy Liberal like the bulk of those on the lists. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 30 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 March, 2009 My MP isn't on the list. Not surprising as he's not a Socialist or a wishy washy Liberal like the bulk of those on the lists. Who's your MP, I will let you know how much they've claimed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Who's your MP, I will let you know how much they've claimed? Alan Duncan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Go Labour! Socialism Really Does Pay so much better than Centre Right Politics! Ah - got you there ! This Government IS most definitely centre-right, not many true socialists left, unfortunately. Bliar ( sic ) was the true inheritor of Maggie's legacy. Nu-Labour, Tory Lite, Different colour, same old sh1te. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Another of Browns finest moments was selling off the countrys gold reserves when the price was rock bottom. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/4162054/Gordon-Browns-decision-to-sell-half-of-the-UKs-gold-reserves-cost-UK-5billion.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
revolution saint Posted 30 March, 2009 Share Posted 30 March, 2009 Ah - got you there ! This Government IS most definitely centre-right, not many true socialists left, unfortunately. Bliar ( sic ) was the true inheritor of Maggie's legacy. Nu-Labour, Tory Lite, Different colour, same old sh1te. Sadly this is true. Go Tories, Facists rock! Don't forget to buy my book, "How the Daily Mail taught me to stick my head in the sand at the smallest sign of an argument and resort to shouting slogans" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 30 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 30 March, 2009 (edited) Alan Duncan. Duncan, Mr Alan (Con) = £141,771 244th on the list .... and one for the 'real socialists', Dennis Skinner claimed £67,891 (2nd from bottom on the list)....... ........only to be beaten by a Tory on £44,551 (Holloway, Mr Adam (Con)). So even the most socialist of socialists still claims more than a Tory. Your honour, the case for the prosecution is now closed. Mods you can lock this thread now (BTW I'll offer forum members a 10% dicsount on my book when it's published) Edited 30 March, 2009 by Johnny Bognor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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