Gym equipment

[thesaint sfc]

I've worked in an office and done f*ck all for too long. I bought a treadmill before Christmas which has well and truly sorted me out. I do about 4-5 miles on it once or twice a week. I'm looking at getting something else that works on the upper half of my body. Anyone got anything in particular they recommend? I'm thinking of getting a chin up bar to wedge in the door frame or something like that. I was looking at rowing machines but they seem to be rather expensive!

 

Any suggestions?

 

WSS please don't post on this thread

Edited 23 March, 2009 by thesaint sfc
Not your body, my body.

[Saints11]

Get a bench, with that you can work your chest, and go from there. Free weights are the best option bya mile, not machines!

[Thedelldays]

depends on the space you have...

 

personally, I dont rates treadmills. although easy to use, it would be more beneficial using the outdoors as it will do you more good...

 

a X-trainer is better for you (IMO) than a treadmill...

 

maybe a bench with some weights...?

[Colinjb]

I have some free weights and they are excellent, just be sure to start slow and work your way up, I have a weak back and as a result have used weights which my arms have been able to cope with but my spinal cord and back muscles couldn't!

[thesaint sfc]

I have some free weights and they are excellent, just be sure to start slow and work your way up, I have a weak back and as a result have used weights which my arms have been able to cope with but my spinal cord and back muscles couldn't!

 

Well that's very kind of you.

 

How would you like me to send you payment to cover the postage?

[thesaint sfc]

I've got a couple of free weights but I've found that I'll do 50 a day for a week and it gets easier and easier and nothing happens. They're pretty heavy too. I'll find out what weight when I get home. Maybe I need to get a full set of them and work my way through the various weights.

[Thedelldays]

I've got a couple of free weights but I've found that I'll do 50 a day for a week and it gets easier and easier and nothing happens. They're pretty heavy too. I'll find out what weight when I get home. Maybe I need to get a full set of them and work my way through the various weights.

you dont just pick up weights and see results

 

you have to stretch, warm down, and have rest days etc and actually do the weights properly

[thesaint sfc]

It's feels pretty pointless stretching and warming down when they haven't made you feel even 1% like you've done anything - I'll try and get some bigger weights and do as you suggest.

[Saint Keith]

I've worked in an office and done f*ck all for too long. I bought a treadmill before Christmas which has well and truly sorted me out. I do about 4-5 miles on it once or twice a week. I'm looking at getting something else that works on the upper half of my body. Anyone got anything in particular they recommend? I'm thinking of getting a chin up bar to wedge in the door frame or something like that. I was looking at rowing machines but they seem to be rather expensive!

 

Any suggestions?

 

WSS please don't post on this thread

 

ive got a concept 2 rowing machine im about to put up for sale. and im only up the road from you

[Patrick Bateman]

I've got a couple of free weights but I've found that I'll do 50 a day for a week and it gets easier and easier and nothing happens. They're pretty heavy too. I'll find out what weight when I get home. Maybe I need to get a full set of them and work my way through the various weights.

 

Because you're doing it wrong.

 

With weights, you need a very heavy session. Pick a weight you can do 3 sets of 12 with. With up to a minute between sets.

Do this (for example) with a bicup curl.

Then do the same with something the dumbell kick back for your triceps, pick a few routines you like.

Then, go back and start again - do all the same, 3 sets of 12.

 

The next day your muscles should hurt. This is good. You have torn the fibres and they will repair, slightly larger (but not yet noticeable) to cope with the demand on the body.

If you eat more protein (so an extra chicken breast) this will encourage faster and bigger muscle growth.

 

Do NOT work on that muscle group that day. Sometimes a 2 day break is needed.

If you go to a gym, the ideal is upper body 1 day (plus cardio), lower body the next day (plus cardio), with core muscle workout alternate days too.

 

If you do the same routines every day, you end up with diminishing returns and almost negative muscle growth.

So, alternate days.

Also, don't believe that doing 3 sets of 5 reps on a much heavier weight will work, it won't. 10-12 reps is the most beneficial number of reps for muscle growth.

 

Oh, and if you're moving your neck and back as you move the weight up and down (for example on a bicep curl), the weight is too heavy and you'll damage your neck and/or back eventually. It should be a smooth movement of the arm, only.

 

You can thank me when you look as tonned and in shape as me

[1576]

Good website here for demos of lots of exercises.

 

http://www.criticalbench.com/exercises/exercises.htm

[Saint Stimp]

Because you're doing it wrong.

 

With weights, you need a very heavy session. Pick a weight you can do 3 sets of 12 with. With up to a minute between sets.

Do this (for example) with a bicup curl.

Then do the same with something the dumbell kick back for your triceps, pick a few routines you like.

Then, go back and start again - do all the same, 3 sets of 12.

 

The next day your muscles should hurt. This is good. You have torn the fibres and they will repair, slightly larger (but not yet noticeable) to cope with the demand on the body.

If you eat more protein (so an extra chicken breast) this will encourage faster and bigger muscle growth.

 

Do NOT work on that muscle group that day. Sometimes a 2 day break is needed.

If you go to a gym, the ideal is upper body 1 day (plus cardio), lower body the next day (plus cardio), with core muscle workout alternate days too.

 

If you do the same routines every day, you end up with diminishing returns and almost negative muscle growth.

So, alternate days.

Also, don't believe that doing 3 sets of 5 reps on a much heavier weight will work, it won't. 10-12 reps is the most beneficial number of reps for muscle growth.

 

Oh, and if you're moving your neck and back as you move the weight up and down (for example on a bicep curl), the weight is too heavy and you'll damage your neck and/or back eventually. It should be a smooth movement of the arm, only.

 

You can thank me when you look as tonned and in shape as me

 

All good advice, although the amount of reps most beneficial is subject to opinion. No doubt about it, if you are looking to get bigger, the best way is to get stronger. And you have no chance of doing this if you aren't going to be committed.

 

I also agree with getting freeweights and a bench, you work way more muscles that way.

 

This website is pretty handy for planning workouts, both for fitness and weight training. Theres a good body map on the weight training link which shows what exercises you can do for each muscle.

 

http://www.exrx.net/

[Sev]

I've worked in an office and done f*ck all for too long. I bought a treadmill before Christmas which has well and truly sorted me out. I do about 4-5 miles on it once or twice a week. I'm looking at getting something else that works on the upper half of my body. Anyone got anything in particular they recommend? I'm thinking of getting a chin up bar to wedge in the door frame or something like that. I was looking at rowing machines but they seem to be rather expensive!

 

Depends what sort of size and strength you are now, and what you're aiming to achieve? Being fitter? Leaner? Having better upper body strength? Being able to use that strength for longer? Liking how you look in a fitted top!?

 

If you were seriously considering rowing machines then that suggests you might have enough space for a bench and free weights? That would give you the most options. A chin up bar can be good though if you want something cheaper and that takes up minimal space when not in use. A decent sturdy cantilever one would be like this: http://www.ukfitnesssupplies.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=929

 

A chin up bar might not help if either (a) you don't already have enough upper body strength to do a single chin-up in the first place or (b) you weigh too much for the chinup bar to support you safely. Presumably from the treadmill exercise mentioned you're not morbidly obese, so you should be ok on (b).

 

If your aim is to make your arms bigger, then a chin up bar is only going to really work for so long until you plateau from doing reps of your own weight, at which point you'll want free weights if you're trying to build more muscle rather than just stay lean.

[StuRomseySaint]

Depends what you are trying to achieve.

 

Cardio-wise.... treadmills are pointless. Get out on the road. Cross Trainers are far more beneficial than treadmills if you really want something at home.

 

Also, Wii Fit is good if you follow it, Yoga, Pilates and Circuit Training all do their bit.

 

Weights wise, machines only do so much, free weights reach more areas.

 

But an exercise ball from Asda for a fiver, buy a set of dumbells, there is so many exercises you can do with that.

 

Having said that, get a gym membership, get a programme wrote for you to achieve your specific goals, and change it round regulary. After 4 sessions of doing the same routine, your body starts to adapt to cope with the pressures, so the most important thing is to keep changing things round and keep your body guessing for best results.

[LGTL]

Also, remember any benefits gained are reversable, so to maintain any muscle mass you have to keep up your exercise programme.

[Greedyfly]

All good advice, although the amount of reps most beneficial is subject to opinion. No doubt about it, if you are looking to get bigger, the best way is to get stronger. And you have no chance of doing this if you aren't going to be committed.

 

I also agree with getting freeweights and a bench, you work way more muscles that way.

 

This website is pretty handy for planning workouts, both for fitness and weight training. Theres a good body map on the weight training link which shows what exercises you can do for each muscle.

 

http://www.exrx.net/

 

 

Yeah I agree with that. The rep argument is just that. The scientific consensus though is that to increase the muscle mass significantly you should work the muscle (and group) to fail, that is so you can't lift another rep. You should then not work the muscle or group significantly for at least 4 days...2 days isn't long enough if you are working the group to fail. It is, afteall, the resting that actually grows the muscle not the gym work per se. Also protein shakes/substitutes aren't just for the bodybuilders of the world, they are hugely beneficial to anyone looking to lose weight and or pack on muscle.

 

Free weights are often considered more beneficial to machines as you get no help from them as oppossed to an assisted machine and you also have to rely on core stabililty to make sure you are doing the exercise correctly. This forces the body to work even harder per rep.

 

Id like add that those saying running machines are not worth while I would have to disagree with. True, running in the elements is more strenous than running in a controlled environment and as an exercise provides far more gains physiologically but there are reasons why a treadmill is it's equal:

 

1. The average (and not so average) persons biggest problem with exercise is concentration, motivation and dedication. It is scientifically proven that those with access to a TV are more motivated to train, to train well and to train for longer. The stimulation provided by moving pictures and sounds allow the person to remain entertained whilst doing something they often would rather not...greater than that of a mp3 or anything else. Thus having said piece of equpiment in your lounge for example is a great way for the average person to stay fit.

 

2. The stress and strains placed on muscles and joints is significantly decreased from that of road running versus a treadmill. As such they help maintain motivation and in turn people are more likely to go back training the next day as oppossed to nursing sore muscles and injuries.

[thesaint sfc]

Yeah I agree with that. The rep argument is just that. The scientific consensus though is that to increase the muscle mass significantly you should work the muscle (and group) to fail, that is so you can't lift another rep. You should then not work the muscle or group significantly for at least 4 days...2 days isn't long enough if you are working the group to fail. It is, afteall, the resting that actually grows the muscle not the gym work per se. Also protein shakes/substitutes aren't just for the bodybuilders of the world, they are hugely beneficial to anyone looking to lose weight and or pack on muscle.

 

Free weights are often considered more beneficial to machines as you get no help from them as oppossed to an assisted machine and you also have to rely on core stabililty to make sure you are doing the exercise correctly. This forces the body to work even harder per rep.

 

Id like add that those saying running machines are not worth while I would have to disagree with. True, running in the elements is more strenous than running in a controlled environment and as an exercise provides far more gains physiologically but there are reasons why a treadmill is it's equal:

 

1. The average (and not so average) persons biggest problem with exercise is concentration, motivation and dedication. It is scientifically proven that those with access to a TV are more motivated to train, to train well and to train for longer. The stimulation provided by moving pictures and sounds allow the person to remain entertained whilst doing something they often would rather not...greater than that of a mp3 or anything else. Thus having said piece of equpiment in your lounge for example is a great way for the average person to stay fit.

 

2. The stress and strains placed on muscles and joints is significantly decreased from that of road running versus a treadmill. As such they help maintain motivation and in turn people are more likely to go back training the next day as oppossed to nursing sore muscles and injuries.

 

I totally agree with this. I think I'm going to go on the treadmill 90% of the time, and go out running the other 10% - so most of the time do my 5 miles on the treadmill - but occasionally go out running across the fields. My problem is that when I've gone running across the fields in the past I've had the tendancy to think 'f*ck me' and slow down. With the treadmill, I never slow down. I often set it to go faster to reach my distance faster.

 

Totally 100% agree with what you said about TV. I used to go on there with nothing. Since going on there with an mp3 player time goes much quicker and I'm able to take my mind off of things more. You find yourself not just staring at the distance you've run slowly going up and you just run.

 

Thanks everyone for your advice - it definitely looks like weights are the way to go. I want to build myself up quite considerably. I'm not in bad shape at all at the moment and I do quite a bit of excercise in comparison to most my age I think it's fair to say. However I do think being in shapes a pretty big deal. I'm a vegetarian so 'an extra chicken breast' unfortunately isn't going to happen. I don't suppose these protein drinks are vegetarian are they? Maybe a ridiculous question.

 

I'll be printing off PB's advice and trying to get into a similar routine.

 

I bought one of these yesterday.

 

http://www.goldsgymdirect.co.uk/images/products/golds-full/GG-G749.jpg

 

I don't actually really know what to do with it yet, but it gets good reviews and seems to be the right sort of thing. I'll also buy a chin up bar today as they're nice and cheap

 

http://www.ukfitnesssupplies.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=929

 

wasn't quite what I was expecting - it looks huge! I was thinking of just a pole I could fit between the door frame - I'll have a look into it.

 

I'll also be investing in a set of weights, and possibly a bench if I can afford it.

 

How much do you want for the rowing machine Keith?

 

Cheers for your advice all.

 

(except WSS, you bast*rd )

[thesaint sfc]

Should I buy this?

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dumbell-set-50kg_W0QQitemZ300302190178QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Strength_Training?hash=item300302190178&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting

[hamster]

Should I buy this?

 

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dumbell-set-50kg_W0QQitemZ300302190178QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Strength_Training?hash=item300302190178&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2|65%3A7|39%3A1|240%3A1318#ebayphotohosting

 

"Pick up only" like it.

[Saint Keith]

.

 

How much do you want for the rowing machine Keith?

 

 

they're about £700 brand new, its 3 years old... and hardly used

 

happy to receive a decent offer

[thesaint sfc]

they're about £700 brand new, its 3 years old... and hardly used

 

happy to receive a decent offer

 

I don't have the funds at the moment to even put in a decent offer mate based on £700 3 years ago.

[Sev]

I totally agree with this. I think I'm going to go on the treadmill 90% of the time, and go out running the other 10% - so most of the time do my 5 miles on the treadmill - but occasionally go out running across the fields. My problem is that when I've gone running across the fields in the past I've had the tendancy to think 'f*ck me' and slow down.

 

If you haven't done so already then use http://maps.live.com/ or http://maps.google.co.uk/ and work out an outdoor route where you know the distance, rather than running until you're bored. Then go running with a watch so you have a goal. Have a few mental markers along the route to compare your progress against along the route each time, so that you keep pushing instead of getting bored / slowing down / giving yourself rests that you wouldn't do on a treadmill.

 

I bought one of these yesterday.

 

http://www.goldsgymdirect.co.uk/images/products/golds-full/GG-G749.jpg

 

I don't actually really know what to do with it yet, but it gets good reviews and seems to be the right sort of thing. I'll also buy a chin up bar today as they're nice and cheap

 

http://www.ukfitnesssupplies.co.uk/ProductDetail.asp?ProductID=929

 

wasn't quite what I was expecting - it looks huge! I was thinking of just a pole I could fit between the door frame - I'll have a look into it.

 

My Mrs bought one of those first things years ago, I scoffed at it at first, but it's surprisingly good at targetting your abs. You get on your knees, grip the bars and roll it forwards as flat to the floor as you can go without collpasing, then haul yourself back again, and repeat.

 

You can get single bar doorway pull up bars, but I've seen enough to stay away from those eg youtube. Ones like the bar in the link are bigger but are removable within seconds and fold away flat.

[Saint Keith]

I don't have the funds at the moment to even put in a decent offer mate based on £700 3 years ago.

 

im only looking for about £200

[Greedyfly]

I totally agree with this. I think I'm going to go on the treadmill 90% of the time, and go out running the other 10% - so most of the time do my 5 miles on the treadmill - but occasionally go out running across the fields. My problem is that when I've gone running across the fields in the past I've had the tendancy to think 'f*ck me' and slow down. With the treadmill, I never slow down. I often set it to go faster to reach my distance faster.

 

Totally 100% agree with what you said about TV. I used to go on there with nothing. Since going on there with an mp3 player time goes much quicker and I'm able to take my mind off of things more. You find yourself not just staring at the distance you've run slowly going up and you just run.

 

Thanks everyone for your advice - it definitely looks like weights are the way to go. I want to build myself up quite considerably. I'm not in bad shape at all at the moment and I do quite a bit of excercise in comparison to most my age I think it's fair to say. However I do think being in shapes a pretty big deal. I'm a vegetarian so 'an extra chicken breast' unfortunately isn't going to happen. I don't suppose these protein drinks are vegetarian are they? Maybe a ridiculous question.

 

Yep all true. I think it was Theo Papthitus that made the very same point on Dragons Den one episode. Probably one of the few times the designer didn't get torn a new one.

 

Anyway I digress...

 

You'll probably be suprised to know that Whey Protein is a bi-product of milk so it's suitable for vegetarians but not vegans. There is plenty of research if you google it but Maximuscle products (although quite pricey) are well respected, researched and reputable. I am pretty sure that you could find similar products for a lot less but personally when I am training I like to be confident in that which I am consuming.

[Patrick Bateman]

I'm a vegetarian so 'an extra chicken breast' unfortunately isn't going to happen. I don't suppose these protein drinks are vegetarian are they? Maybe a ridiculous question.

 

Hmmm, slight problem - if you're a veggie, you need to get extra protein from somewhere else you really won't build yourself up.

 

I'm not sure if most protein shakes are suitable or not? Personally I think they taste foul, even the chocolate bars which is why I eat shed loads of extra chicken instead.

 

Failing that, you've always got eggs and baby food - both work!!

[thesaint sfc]

im only looking for about £200

 

Hmmmm. I'll have a think about it mate. I crashed into a brand new BMW Z4 in November and I'm hoping to get my car fixed with the bonus I got the other day. If it works out costing less than I expect then you may well have a deal. Sadly, I've never known taking a car to the garage and it costing you less than you expect.

[thesaint sfc]

Hmmm, slight problem - if you're a veggie, you need to get extra protein from somewhere else you really won't build yourself up.

 

I'm not sure if most protein shakes are suitable or not? Personally I think they taste foul, even the chocolate bars which is why I eat shed loads of extra chicken instead.

 

Failing that, you've always got eggs and baby food - both work!!

 

I'm a vegetarian - we eat nut roast and hideous things like that! I think I'll give a protein drink a go - if not I guess baby food could be worth a try? I can't stand eggs on their own.

 

edit: a quick search on wikipedia and it says: Examples of high-protein foods are tofu, dairy products, fish, and meat.

 

I quite like Tofu so I guess that problems sorted!

[thesaint sfc]

If you haven't done so already then use http://maps.live.com/ or http://maps.google.co.uk/ and work out an outdoor route where you know the distance, rather than running until you're bored. Then go running with a watch so you have a goal. Have a few mental markers along the route to compare your progress against along the route each time, so that you keep pushing instead of getting bored / slowing down / giving yourself rests that you wouldn't do on a treadmill.

 

 

My Mrs bought one of those first things years ago, I scoffed at it at first, but it's surprisingly good at targetting your abs. You get on your knees, grip the bars and roll it forwards as flat to the floor as you can go without collpasing, then haul yourself back again, and repeat.

 

You can get single bar doorway pull up bars, but I've seen enough to stay away from those eg youtube. Ones like the bar in the link are bigger but are removable within seconds and fold away flat.

 

Thanks mate - my friend has got a garmin which is specifically for that sort of thing, so I'll ask if I can borrow his. Otherwise there's supposedly something in my phone which tracks the distance you've covered and the time taken. I live in the middle of countryside so looking for places to run is dead easy.

 

After having a look at those videos on youtube, no matter how fake they look, I don't fancy that! I'll have a look around for the one you suggested on ebay or similar. Cheers.

[LGTL]

Hmmm, slight problem - if you're a veggie, you need to get extra protein from somewhere else you really won't build yourself up.

 

I'm not sure if most protein shakes are suitable or not? Personally I think they taste foul, even the chocolate bars which is why I eat shed loads of extra chicken instead.

 

Failing that, you've always got eggs and baby food - both work!!

 

You're doing the right thing there mate. Most literature finds no benefit of protein shakes, and it's far more beneficial to stick with natural protein. Saves quite a bit too.

[Saint Keith]

Sadly, I've never known taking a car to the garage and it costing you less than you expect.

 

have to agree with you on that one. fortuanatly my heap of crap is about to go.

 

let me know on the rower. i wont bother putting it on ebay til i get back from holiday, so no rush

[aids victim]

Hmmm, slight problem - if you're a veggie, you need to get extra protein from somewhere else you really won't build yourself up.

 

I'm not sure if most protein shakes are suitable or not? Personally I think they taste foul, even the chocolate bars which is why I eat shed loads of extra chicken instead.

 

Failing that, you've always got eggs and baby food - both work!!

 

I eat more Turkey now, as a bloke that I train with told me to, as it has more protein in

[GenevaSaint]

If you haven't done so already then use http://maps.live.com/ or http://maps.google.co.uk/ and work out an outdoor route where you know the distance, rather than running until you're bored.

QUOTE]

 

Cracking website to measure runs is http://www.fetcheveryone.co.uk or .com cannot remember. On the training section you can map out runs by double clicking to mark waypoints. It measures the miles or KMs as you go.

[GenevaSaint]

Cardio-wise.... treadmills are pointless.

 

In what way Stu?

[TheCholulaKid]

Narcissism is soooo 80s.

[Patrick Bateman]

I eat more Turkey now, as a bloke that I train with told me to, as it has more protein in

 

Interesting, I thought they were about the same, but I won't argue, but what I do know is that Turkey is cheaper - which isn't a bad thing when you eat as much bloody chicken as I do!!!!

[thesaint sfc]

Interesting, I thought they were about the same, but I won't argue, but what I do know is that Turkey is cheaper - which isn't a bad thing when you eat as much bloody chicken as I do!!!!

 

Turkey is nicer too, don't you think?

[aids victim]

Interesting, I thought they were about the same, but I won't argue, but what I do know is that Turkey is cheaper - which isn't a bad thing when you eat as much bloody chicken as I do!!!!

 

Turkey has a slightly higher amount of protein in it and the reason why it is drier is that it has less saturated fats. I think Chicken has the advantage that it contains Amino acids (good and bad) that Turkey doesn't.

 

I still have a bit of chicken, as I prefer it, but there's not a massive difference, but it's cheaper and slightly better for you, so if you get through as much of it then it gives you a saving in the long run I guess!!

[Saint Stimp]

You're doing the right thing there mate. Most literature finds no benefit of protein shakes, and it's far more beneficial to stick with natural protein. Saves quite a bit too.

 

I use protein shakes, and I can honestly say that I have noticed a difference since I started. The ones I drink don't taste too bad either, quite nice when mixed with milk tbh! That said, a good diet is definitely more important.

[aids victim]

I use protein shakes, and I can honestly say that I have noticed a difference since I started. The ones I drink don't taste too bad either, quite nice when mixed with milk tbh! That said, a good diet is definitely more important.

 

I started off using protein shakes from the gym, Fitmaxx ones, with 50g protein in them, but at £3 a pop, I realised how much cash I was wasting and now use that money to buy things like Turkey, Chicken, Tuna, Mackerel, Sardines and even Steak and these are good sources of protein and much better for you I believe.

 

However, just because I say this it's not gospel, but just ideas of what you can try, as it worked for me and I have been recommended diets/exercises/schedules by other people that have worked for them, but not for me, it's all about trial and error and enjoying it

[Thedelldays]

sod the advice...

 

get some anavar, dianabol and stanabol.

 

you will get the rewards in about 4 weeks...guaranteed

[Thedelldays]

i am in to my fitness when I have a period alongside at home...

 

I have tried protein shakes and did not like them

BSN NO-Xplode is pretty darn good...take the recomended dose 30 mins before your workout and you will be pumped for it...maybe mix it with some creatine (some do taste foul)...

 

however, if you want some 'different' training aids.....I know a few sites that could help you out without the apparent known side effects....

 

all depends on your goal

 

http://www.bodyshapersfitness.com/prodView.asp?idProduct=413

 

No-Xplode DOES make you "up for it" every time you take it..

Edited 24 March, 2009 by Thedelldays

[Weston Super Saint]

 

No-Xplode DOES make you "up for it" every time you take it..

 

LOL.

 

I think he only wants to do a few weights

[thesaint sfc]

I'm going to give this guy off the friday ad a

WEIGHT TRAINING bench and set of weights, good condition, £20 , Haywards Heath, 07044325**5.

 

What questions should I ask him? lol

[Essruu]

I'm going to give this guy off the friday ad a

WEIGHT TRAINING bench and set of weights, good condition, £20 , Haywards Heath, 07044325**5.

 

What questions should I ask him? lol

 

"How heavy are the weights and if they're over 10kg will you help me lift them into my car please?"

[StuRomseySaint]

In what way Stu?

 

In the way that you can go out on the roads and run 5 miles and burn more calories than you will by doing 5 miles on the treadmill.

 

You can 'cheat' on treadmills so to speak and actually end up doing less than 5 miles.... the 5 miles is based on the rotation of the belt and not on how far you actually run.... anyway, that's not the main reason, the main reason is it it better and much more interesting to go out on the road and do a few hills in between etc...

[St Will]

3 letters....

 

TRX

[Greedyfly]

I'm a vegetarian - we eat nut roast and hideous things like that! I think I'll give a protein drink a go - if not I guess baby food could be worth a try? I can't stand eggs on their own.

 

edit: a quick search on wikipedia and it says: Examples of high-protein foods are tofu, dairy products, fish, and meat.

 

I quite like Tofu so I guess that problems sorted!

 

 

There is a slight issue here however...

 

Although you should, by all means, start eating an increased amount of protein between training sessions, having a tofu sandwich (I am being flippant but you get my drift) after a weight session is more likely to give you stomach ache and the effect it has on your muscles ability to repair (and grow) will be minimal compared to that of a shake. It is FACT that the best time to have the biggest influx of protein is within 10 mins of finishing a workout. Unfortunately protein takes longer to break down than any other food substance which is why solids aren't as good as fluids when trying to flood your muscles with protein and carbs so that they repair. However by mixing protein with water (or for a far better taste, milk) the body will easily start to absorb and repair the muscles quicker. You will get faster results this way, and go for a mix that has something with a little carb in it as well, it helps the body drive the protein into the muscles.

[thesaint sfc]

There is a slight issue here however...

 

Although you should, by all means, start eating an increased amount of protein between training sessions, having a tofu sandwich (I am being flippant but you get my drift) after a weight session is more likely to give you stomach ache and the effect it has on your muscles ability to repair (and grow) will be minimal compared to that of a shake. It is FACT that the best time to have the biggest influx of protein is within 10 mins of finishing a workout. Unfortunately protein takes longer to break down than any other food substance which is why solids aren't as good as fluids when trying to flood your muscles with protein and carbs so that they repair. However by mixing protein with water (or for a far better taste, milk) the body will easily start to absorb and repair the muscles quicker. You will get faster results this way, and go for a mix that has something with a little carb in it as well, it helps the body drive the protein into the muscles.

 

Thanks mate - I'll order some protein drinks when I'm next placing an order with Tesco.

[thesaint sfc]

In the way that you can go out on the roads and run 5 miles and burn more calories than you will by doing 5 miles on the treadmill.

 

You can 'cheat' on treadmills so to speak and actually end up doing less than 5 miles.... the 5 miles is based on the rotation of the belt and not on how far you actually run.... anyway, that's not the main reason, the main reason is it it better and much more interesting to go out on the road and do a few hills in between etc...

 

That's a very good point Stu, but when I've gone running across the fields which I have done lots in the past, I often slow down, speed up etc etc. Where as on a treadmill it is a constant pace and I never slow down (because I can't!) so I'm sure for its disadvantages there are advantages. I've got short legs too which I'm sure is a bonus! I don't get time to run during the day, so I have to run at night and I've tried doing that before and ended up nearly injuring myself! It's stickt countryside where I live so no street lights or anything. Once the clocks change and the evenings are lighter then I'll be trying to go out on runs a bit more, but I think running a couple of miles on the treadmill every evening has got to be doing a fair bit of good to me, certainly better than doing nothing.

Edited 26 March, 2009 by thesaint sfc

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