trousers Posted 31 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Did you see a program on BBC2 a month or so ago called Million Dollar Traders? You remind me of the dozy bint who seemed to suffer a nervous breakdown every time the share price moved a little bit. So some bloke in Basingstoke sells 5000 shares @ 9p and that HUGE, M-A-S-S-I-V-E £450 trade is somehow a damning indictment of how the entire company is run?! I'm almost tempted to put in some rolling eyed crayon effects but I don't want my new stalker to reappear after I finally threw off the previous one... Basingstoke? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Basingstoke? It's the new City of London dontchaknow!! BTW Basingstoke used to be by the sea, but the sea found it too boring and moved away!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Did you see a program on BBC2 a month or so ago called Million Dollar Traders? You remind me of the dozy bint who seemed to suffer a nervous breakdown every time the share price moved a little bit. So some bloke in Basingstoke sells 5000 shares @ 9p and that HUGE, M-A-S-S-I-V-E £450 trade is somehow a damning indictment of how the entire company is run?! I'm almost tempted to put in some rolling eyed crayon effects but I don't want my new stalker to reappear after I finally threw off the previous one... It's "programme" not "program". American dumbing down of the English language is a pet hate of mine. Anyway back to the waffle you posted. Explain to me how Saints crashing share price is normal given that the AIM isn't following the trend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2009 It's "programme" not "program". American dumbing down of the English language is a pet hate of mine. Anyway back to the waffle you posted. Explain to me how Saints crashing share price is normal given that the AIM isn't following the trend. Saints' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Saints' ^^^^^ *smirk* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 It's "programme" not "program". American dumbing down of the English language is a pet hate of mine. I thought it appropriate to dumb down my explanations to you as much as possible. Explain to me how Saints (sic) crashing share price is normal given that the AIM isn't following the trend. If you still don't understand it after all this time I think it's unlikely it the penny will suddenly drop now... but let me have one more attempt in terms you might understand: Suppose the average length of a chip is 10cm. I'm talking about English chips here by the way, not dumbed down American crisps. If you compare 2 bags of chips, one called AIM Chips and one called Saints Chips, you can expect them to have the same average length of chip. If you looked at them one at a time you might find some AIM Chips were longer than Saints Chips initially, then nearer the end of the bags they might be round the other way. But across the bag as a whole, you might find the AIM Chips had an average length of 10.1cm and the Saints Chips might average 9.9cm. That is close but not that close, because you are using a small sample. If you compared 1000 bags of each, you'd find the averages pretty much identical. With share prices, if Saints shares are correlated to the AIM Index then you'd expect the prices to match over a long period of time - like the average length of chips would match over a large number of bags. However over a short period of time the Saints shares might be relatively lower than the AIM Index (shorter chips), but at other times they might be higher (longer chips). So over a short period of time you might find they seem quite different, much like if you picked a single chip from the 2 bags then a Saints Chip could be half the length of an AIM Chip. But you'd not be the fizziest drink in the fridge to hold your stumpy Saints Chip in the air and declare they are nothing like AIM Chips just because you found a short one. Tomorrow I will use bricks to explain why the quoted share price is not the value of the major shareholders' shares. Or I might just poke my eyes out instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I thought it appropriate to dumb down my explanations to you as much as possible. If you still don't understand it after all this time I think it's unlikely it the penny will suddenly drop now... but let me have one more attempt in terms you might understand: Suppose the average length of a chip is 10cm. I'm talking about English chips here by the way, not dumbed down American crisps. If you compare 2 bags of chips, one called AIM Chips and one called Saints Chips, you can expect them to have the same average length of chip. If you looked at them one at a time you might find some AIM Chips were longer than Saints Chips initially, then nearer the end of the bags they might be round the other way. But across the bag as a whole, you might find the AIM Chips had an average length of 10.1cm and the Saints Chips might average 9.9cm. That is close but not that close, because you are using a small sample. If you compared 1000 bags of each, you'd find the averages pretty much identical. With share prices, if Saints shares are correlated to the AIM Index then you'd expect the prices to match over a long period of time - like the average length of chips would match over a large number of bags. However over a short period of time the Saints shares might be relatively lower than the AIM Index (shorter chips), but at other times they might be higher (longer chips). So over a short period of time you might find they seem quite different, much like if you picked a single chip from the 2 bags then a Saints Chip could be half the length of an AIM Chip. But you'd not be the fizziest drink in the fridge to hold your stumpy Saints Chip in the air and declare they are nothing like AIM Chips just because you found a short one. Tomorrow I will use bricks to explain why the quoted share price is not the value of the major shareholders' shares. Or I might just poke my eyes out instead. That has really made me chuckle.Stanley im sorry but Jonah is a class act. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 That has really made me chuckle.Stanley im sorry but Jonah is a class act. He's a class something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Did you see a program on BBC2 a month or so ago called Million Dollar Traders? You remind me of the dozy bint who seemed to suffer a nervous breakdown every time the share price moved a little bit. So some bloke in Basingstoke sells 5000 shares @ 9p and that HUGE, M-A-S-S-I-V-E £450 trade is somehow a damning indictment of how the entire company is run?! I'm almost tempted to put in some rolling eyed crayon effects but I don't want my new stalker to reappear after I finally threw off the previous one... jonah, You financial times paper delivery boy....Give me back my crayons or I will have one of your'e hissy fits..so there....I think you are a lot cleverer than nick gives you credit for.:smt049 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I thought it appropriate to dumb down my explanations to you as much as possible. If you still don't understand it after all this time I think it's unlikely it the penny will suddenly drop now... but let me have one more attempt in terms you might understand: Suppose the average length of a chip is 10cm. I'm talking about English chips here by the way, not dumbed down American crisps. If you compare 2 bags of chips, one called AIM Chips and one called Saints Chips, you can expect them to have the same average length of chip. If you looked at them one at a time you might find some AIM Chips were longer than Saints Chips initially, then nearer the end of the bags they might be round the other way. But across the bag as a whole, you might find the AIM Chips had an average length of 10.1cm and the Saints Chips might average 9.9cm. That is close but not that close, because you are using a small sample. If you compared 1000 bags of each, you'd find the averages pretty much identical. With share prices, if Saints shares are correlated to the AIM Index then you'd expect the prices to match over a long period of time - like the average length of chips would match over a large number of bags. However over a short period of time the Saints shares might be relatively lower than the AIM Index (shorter chips), but at other times they might be higher (longer chips). So over a short period of time you might find they seem quite different, much like if you picked a single chip from the 2 bags then a Saints Chip could be half the length of an AIM Chip. But you'd not be the fizziest drink in the fridge to hold your stumpy Saints Chip in the air and declare they are nothing like AIM Chips just because you found a short one. Tomorrow I will use bricks to explain why the quoted share price is not the value of the major shareholders' shares. Or I might just poke my eyes out instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BGF Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Radio Solent mentioned the fall in share price and said there maybe a board meeting tomorrow regarding the fall. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSaint75 Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I thought it appropriate to dumb down my explanations to you as much as possible. If you still don't understand it after all this time I think it's unlikely it the penny will suddenly drop now... but let me have one more attempt in terms you might understand: Suppose the average length of a chip is 10cm. I'm talking about English chips here by the way, not dumbed down American crisps. If you compare 2 bags of chips, one called AIM Chips and one called Saints Chips, you can expect them to have the same average length of chip. If you looked at them one at a time you might find some AIM Chips were longer than Saints Chips initially, then nearer the end of the bags they might be round the other way. But across the bag as a whole, you might find the AIM Chips had an average length of 10.1cm and the Saints Chips might average 9.9cm. That is close but not that close, because you are using a small sample. If you compared 1000 bags of each, you'd find the averages pretty much identical. With share prices, if Saints shares are correlated to the AIM Index then you'd expect the prices to match over a long period of time - like the average length of chips would match over a large number of bags. However over a short period of time the Saints shares might be relatively lower than the AIM Index (shorter chips), but at other times they might be higher (longer chips). So over a short period of time you might find they seem quite different, much like if you picked a single chip from the 2 bags then a Saints Chip could be half the length of an AIM Chip. But you'd not be the fizziest drink in the fridge to hold your stumpy Saints Chip in the air and declare they are nothing like AIM Chips just because you found a short one. Tomorrow I will use bricks to explain why the quoted share price is not the value of the major shareholders' shares. Or I might just poke my eyes out instead. I find it much easier to have Stanley on my ignore list, nice response all the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Apparently SLH is now worth less than Augustin Delgado's transfer fee, and equally as useless, no doubt......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Radio Solent mentioned the fall in share price and said there maybe a board meeting tomorrow regarding the fall. I heard that, started sounded like they had some news, talk of board meetings and administration etc on intro - when they got to the bit in the actual sports news -there was no news at all -except share price has dropped. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Apparently SLH is now worth less than Augustin Delgado's transfer fee, and equally as useless, no doubt......... think solent put it at £2.5m, but suppose as others have said its worth what people will sell for and buy for - can't see major shareholdings selling at today's rate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 BBC South Today just reporting that value is 2.8m and that there may be a board meeting tomorrow. Mentioning the cheap tickets for the Charlton match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 think solent put it at £2.5m, but suppose as others have said its worth what people will sell for and buy for - can't see major shareholdings selling at today's rate. Unless of course Wilde and Lowe know their shares will be completely worthless in the not so distant future. If that's the case it'd be better get some money than nothing at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Unless of course Wilde and Lowe know their shares will be completely worthless in the not so distant future. If that's the case it'd be better get some money than nothing at all. So...Rupey hasn't done such a good job of 'protecting his investment' after all? Such a shame....hahaha..! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 So...Rupey hasn't done such a good job of 'protecting his investment' after all? Such a shame....hahaha..! My sentiments exactly, i am finding the current slump in the shares values highly amusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pfc123 Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I thought it appropriate to dumb down my explanations to you as much as possible. If you still don't understand it after all this time I think it's unlikely it the penny will suddenly drop now... but let me have one more attempt in terms you might understand: Suppose the average length of a chip is 10cm. I'm talking about English chips here by the way, not dumbed down American crisps. If you compare 2 bags of chips, one called AIM Chips and one called Saints Chips, you can expect them to have the same average length of chip. If you looked at them one at a time you might find some AIM Chips were longer than Saints Chips initially, then nearer the end of the bags they might be round the other way. But across the bag as a whole, you might find the AIM Chips had an average length of 10.1cm and the Saints Chips might average 9.9cm. That is close but not that close, because you are using a small sample. If you compared 1000 bags of each, you'd find the averages pretty much identical. With share prices, if Saints shares are correlated to the AIM Index then you'd expect the prices to match over a long period of time - like the average length of chips would match over a large number of bags. However over a short period of time the Saints shares might be relatively lower than the AIM Index (shorter chips), but at other times they might be higher (longer chips). So over a short period of time you might find they seem quite different, much like if you picked a single chip from the 2 bags then a Saints Chip could be half the length of an AIM Chip. But you'd not be the fizziest drink in the fridge to hold your stumpy Saints Chip in the air and declare they are nothing like AIM Chips just because you found a short one. Tomorrow I will use bricks to explain why the quoted share price is not the value of the major shareholders' shares. Or I might just poke my eyes out instead. I don't see what any of this has to do with the price of fish.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint in Paradise Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I read some bloke paid over 8,500 Pounds for each Arsenal share the other day, that would have bought lots of Saints shares. Pity he didn't want a whole Club rather than just part of one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 All this will be irrelevant tommorow morning ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 All this will be irrelevant tommorow morning ! why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2009 BBC South Today just reporting that value is 2.8m and that there may be a board meeting tomorrow. Mentioning the cheap tickets for the Charlton match. But we keep being told by certain finacial wizards that the share price is irrelevant to the major shareholders... Cake and eat it anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 why? see the other thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 But we keep being told by certain finacial wizards that the share price is irrelevant to the major shareholders... Cake and eat it anyone? I think we need to hear the thoughts of a plumber. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2009 I think we need to hear the thoughts of a plumber. In Hull? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Well Stanley, now if what is being mentioned and its the end of lowe and wilde . will you return to watch saints or will you find a new crusade to vent your spleen on, you are one sad mother ****er Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Well Stanley, now if what is being mentioned and its the end of lowe and wilde . will you return to watch saints or will you find a new crusade to vent your spleen on, you are one sad mother ****er I can't make it Saturday, but yeah i'll start going agin IF THIS IS TRUE. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Just got home from a dinner in Sindlesham, Berkshire. Whilst i was there I took a phone call to say that the shares will be suspended at 7am tomorrow. The information was not known until after the market closed tonight. Someone is still working to try to bring in a buyer but if it does not happen by the time of the board meeting tomorrow 11am (I am told) we will be appointing an Administrator. Sad time for SFC. Like FF I have received this from 2 sources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Just got home from a dinner in Sindlesham, Berkshire. Whilst i was there I took a phone call to say that the shares will be suspended at 7am tomorrow. The information was not known until after the market closed tonight. Someone is still working to try to bring in a buyer but if it does not happen by the time of the board meeting tomorrow 11am (I am told) we will be appointing an Administrator. Sad time for SFC. Like FF I have received this from 2 sources. Ron does this mean we'd take the points hit next season in League 1? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Just got home from a dinner in Sindlesham, Berkshire. Whilst i was there I took a phone call to say that the shares will be suspended at 7am tomorrow. The information was not known until after the market closed tonight. Someone is still working to try to bring in a buyer but if it does not happen by the time of the board meeting tomorrow 11am (I am told) we will be appointing an Administrator. Sad time for SFC. Like FF I have received this from 2 sources. F**king marvellous. Why didnt those two priicks go for voluntary admin LESS THAN A WEEK AGO ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 F**king marvellous. Why didnt those two priicks go for voluntary admin LESS THAN A WEEK AGO ? EGO...pair of PLONKERS KNOW BETTER....Should have both walked before xmas to give....Salz, Corbett, Crouch etc the chance to make a decent effort.:smt017.. I just hope to God that neither has anymore to do with Saints....But we all know Rupert:mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 The points deduction is suspended until the end of the season. If we are in the bottom 3 (before deduction) we take the hit next season. If we finish outside the bottom 3 the 10 points are applied. Whatever way you look at it we start next season in Div 1. Lets hope it is without the 10 points deduction by getting out of the bottom 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 The points deduction is suspended until the end of the season. If we are in the bottom 3 (before deduction) we take the hit next season. If we finish outside the bottom 3 the 10 points are applied. Whatever way you look at it we start next season in Div 1. Lets hope it is without the 10 points deduction by getting out of the bottom 3. Possibly not according to the article Trousers pasted up: "However, it is hoped that moves to put the club's parent company, rather than the club itself, into administration will save it from having points docked by the Coca-Cola Championship" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 31 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Whatever way you look at it we start next season in Div 1. .. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Dont forget the extra -17 that most clubs get too. It could be -27 points in L1 unless Saints finish outside the bottom 3 by 10+ points. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 31 March, 2009 Share Posted 31 March, 2009 Radio Solent mentioned the fall in share price and said there maybe a board meeting tomorrow regarding the fall. Good Lord! It seems that only last weekend that the clocks went forward. Where's the summer gone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 1 April, 2009 Author Share Posted 1 April, 2009 'Someone' selling a large wodge of WH Ireland shares....? http://www.londonstockexchange.com/en-gb/pricesnews/prices/system/detailedprices.htm?sym=GB0009241885GBGBXAIMI0924188WHI Altogether now..."hmmmm" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Bognor Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 'Someone' selling a large wodge of WH Ireland shares....? http://www.londonstockexchange.com/en-gb/pricesnews/prices/system/detailedprices.htm?sym=GB0009241885GBGBXAIMI0924188WHI Altogether now..."hmmmm" The value isn't that much in the scheme of things. I guess it is an investor looking at Lowe's record elsewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wireframebox Posted 1 April, 2009 Share Posted 1 April, 2009 'Someone' selling a large wodge of WH Ireland shares....? http://www.londonstockexchange.com/en-gb/pricesnews/prices/system/detailedprices.htm?sym=GB0009241885GBGBXAIMI0924188WHI Altogether now..."hmmmm" http://www.sharecrazy.com/share2607share/share.php?disp=share&epic=WHI Not listed under Recent Director Dealings yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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