Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Been thinking about how we could possibly get some quick goals....and surprise the opposition.. Seeing how some teams suss us out during the first half...and how effective bursts we achieved when we used to throw Ruddock upfront in the old days.... How about Liptak upfront? Physical presence...if it means a few more flick ons or just to keep the opposition defence busy????
Give it to Ron Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I did not understand why we did not try Liptak up front on Saturday for the last 10 minutes. He is supposed to be a good header of the ball and we have very few who attack the ball in the opposition box.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 March, 2009 Author Posted 16 March, 2009 I did not understand why we did not try Liptak up front on Saturday for the last 10 minutes. He is supposed to be a good header of the ball and we have very few who attack the ball in the opposition box. He COULD be our own Chris Sutton...or Ian Marshall!!!!
david in sweden Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Been thinking about how we could possibly get some quick goals....and surprise the opposition.. Seeing how some teams suss us out during the first half...and how effective bursts we achieved when we used to throw Ruddock upfront in the old days.... How about Liptak upfront? Physical presence...if it means a few more flick ons or just to keep the opposition defence busy???? Mmmm.....I've heard stranger suggestions - why not ?
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 March, 2009 Author Posted 16 March, 2009 Mmmm.....I've heard stranger suggestions - why not ? I could manage this lot you know.........!! BTW, over a month ago I also suggested that we play Euell upfront...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 March, 2009 Author Posted 16 March, 2009 Take Size out of the defence, are you nuts? I am a fruitcake but not a nutcase...as far as Saeijs goes, only stick him upfront in the last 10 mins if we were chasing a win...they could be interchangeable...say bring on Liptak at the back and stick JP upfront?? Just think we need to mix it up a bit - it was the lack of changes that cost Poortvliet all of those points early doors... Points mean prizes...
Iowsaintsfan Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 maybe if we are behind! though not a draw especially with teams that are down with us or could be.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Been thinking about how we could possibly get some quick goals....and surprise the opposition.. Seeing how some teams suss us out during the first half...and how effective bursts we achieved when we used to throw Ruddock upfront in the old days.... How about Liptak upfront? Physical presence...if it means a few more flick ons or just to keep the opposition defence busy???? Yep that's it, we're paying 2 "strikers" a total of £24000 a week and we have to try to get either a free transfer or an on loan centre half to score goals for us. Sums us up really.
derry Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 It's not the two up front that are the problem. Lallana and Schneiderlin pretty, pretty about and don't get in where it hurts, McGoldrick seems to think if he runs across field to win a tackle now and then it excuses him from getting up front quickly which he has to do all the time. Wotton at fullback, he will battle, Lallana and McGoldrick out altogether, give Thompson a go at right midfield and BWP/Paterson in the hole.
Give it to Ron Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Yep that's it, we're paying 2 "strikers" a total of £24000 a week and we have to try to get either a free transfer or an on loan centre half to score goals for us. Sums us up really. Those 2 strikers are getting battered every week with little support from the shockingly poor Lallana, out of form Surman, lack of application from McGoldrick. We have very little experience in backup so are basically stuffed. David Armstrong made this very point on Saturday as well. Euell has done well since he came in but getting kicked up in the air every couple of minutes whilst your team mates mince about would **** you off a bit.
saintwarwick Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Take Size out of the defence, are you nuts? That's what I was thinking.
Arizona Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Yep that's it, we're paying 2 "strikers" a total of £24000 a week and we have to try to get either a free transfer or an on loan centre half to score goals for us. Sums us up really. Euell missed a couple of chances against QPR, but other than that you can't really point to too many missed chances for either striker. If we aren't missing chances or scoring goals, clearly we just aren't creating enough. It certainly goes with what I've seen recently. Lallana has contributed fook all since September, Surman has played a couple of shockers and McGoldrick... you know the rest. I would give Skacel a go on the left, but apparently that's not allowed because he couldn't score 17 goals a season 2 years ago.
Window Cleaner Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Euell missed a couple of chances against QPR, but other than that you can't really point to too many missed chances for either striker. If we aren't missing chances or scoring goals, clearly we just aren't creating enough. It certainly goes with what I've seen recently. Lallana has contributed fook all since September, Surman has played a couple of shockers and McGoldrick... you know the rest. Lallana should be loaned out somewhere, Salisbury or Mottisfont should be about his level. Why we persist with the bloke I've no idea, we should have taken any offer that was made for him and got ourselves a midfield player.
Saints67 Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I am a fruitcake but not a nutcase...as far as Saeijs goes' date=' only stick him upfront in the last 10 mins if we were chasing a win[/b']...they could be interchangeable...say bring on Liptak at the back and stick JP upfront?? Just think we need to mix it up a bit - it was the lack of changes that cost Poortvliet all of those points early doors... Points mean prizes... I am positive Wotte did this away against Birmingham. It was so effective I thought Saeijs had been subbed.
ottery st mary Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Lallana should be loaned out somewhere, Salisbury or Mottisfont should be about his level. Why we persist with the bloke I've no idea, we should have taken any offer that was made for him and got ourselves a midfield player. Windows you can be such a pane sometimes...You know nuffing about football and never go to games..Not sure you even know anything about the mighty Saints. Everyone knows Adam is our No1 goalkeeper and the safest pair of hands in the CCC;)
L1Minus10 Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Should have put Liptak on up front on saturday instead of BWP. Liptak would have attacked the ball and generally caused havoc whereas BWP is just a useless tool. We were launching it all game anyway and the average heeight of the QPR back 4 was 6 foot 5.
CHAPEL END CHARLIE Posted 17 March, 2009 Posted 17 March, 2009 maybe if we are behind! though not a draw especially with teams that are down with us or could be. What you say may well be sensible in August or if we weren't in the relegation zone , but we are where we are and necessity is the mother of desperation . 1 point = of very little use to us in our current situation . 3 points = a significant step towards survival . Not only should JPS have played as an additional forward in the latter stages against QPR but Kelvin Davis should have come up for the last corner kick as well . We're in a awful situation now and we have to gamble when necessary .
hughieslastminutegoal Posted 17 March, 2009 Posted 17 March, 2009 Windows you can be such a pane sometimes...You know nuffing about football and never go to games..Not sure you even know anything about the mighty Saints. Everyone knows Adam is our No1 goalkeeper and the safest pair of hands in the CCC;) You saw right through his argument there, If I'm to be a bit of a pain.
del boy Posted 17 March, 2009 Posted 17 March, 2009 BTW' date=' over a month ago I also suggested that we play Euell upfront...[/quote'] Playing a striker up front does take a certain twisted logic, but the Lurpak idea could be fun as an experiment. Perhaps they could try him in the reserves in that role.
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 17 March, 2009 Posted 17 March, 2009 How about the players practice shooting? try some shots from outside the box like other teams do? or maybe get a loan striker in like our relegation rivals have done?
del boy Posted 17 March, 2009 Posted 17 March, 2009 How about the players practice shooting? try some shots from outside the box like other teams do? or maybe get a loan striker in like our relegation rivals have done? http://www.southampton-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=438173
Tac-tics Posted 17 March, 2009 Posted 17 March, 2009 Cant see no harm in throwing Liptak up front in the second half. I'd try it in training first, long balls up to him, Lallana, Gillett & DMG having PLENTY of practise at long shots and through balls. Still find it concerning that Euell and Saga are'nt putting most things away.
saintrich Posted 17 March, 2009 Posted 17 March, 2009 We put Saeijs upfront for the last ten minutes or so against Birmingham and we was completely ineffective.
Window Cleaner Posted 17 March, 2009 Posted 17 March, 2009 But really this is just crazy desperate talk. We have strikers, let them strike. Putting a CB up front for a whole half would just lead to endless high ball pumped into the box to be gobbled up by the opposition defence and keeper who would pump the ball straight down the field to hit our defence with wave after wave of attacks until we finally cave in; It's what happened with the JP system, no ball holding in midfield and attack=get hit on till you crack.
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 17 March, 2009 Posted 17 March, 2009 http://www.southampton-mad.co.uk/news/loadnews.asp?cid=TMNW&id=438173 Club accepts relegation then :-(
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