Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Just four short weeks ago, they were falling over themselves to start threads about how wonderful Mr Wotte was...and how the rest of us should be shot for thinking differently. 'Oh we are going to be safe now if we continue like this' Yeah that lasted didn't it. Wotte made necessary changes when he came in, but the momentum has stopped. Why? Has he realised what he has to work with? (Players, not Rupert before all you clappys start to cream your pants ) We have the same problem now as we did when we got relegated from the Prem - not enough wins, drawing games we should win, and a squad high on quantity not quality.... Anyone left that still feels positive?
Master Bates Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I'm positive, doctor gave me the results this morning. I hope and pray we stay up.
Mole Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Ruperts cheerleaders are bracing themselves for egg on their faces.
Master Bates Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Ooooooo, would love the cheerleaders to come back for next season!!!!!!!!
alpine_saint Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I reckon the whole forum is in crisis. We've lost all momentum, everybody is fed-up and exahusted that yet another false dawn has come and gone, and nobody can be bothered posting.
Frank's cousin Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Please... a comedy moment if there ever was one. Wotte won 3 on the bounce and NATURALLY folk were please, had he not done so we would have been p!ssed off and sitting with Charlton in the doomed slot. We have lost once in the last six. 11 points from 18 - and whatever we think of Wotte, this is still an improvement to what went on before. You guys want it both ways - when we aint getting the results, no matter how NICE JP is its all about points on the board - yet when we actually get some you do a 180 and suddenly its about what he says in public that is more important...and the moment we get two draws and defeat against the second team in teh league you prefer to score cheap points off fellow fans that hope for BETER results and safety - you simply cant make it up, unfeckinbelievable
Alanh Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Three wins in a row and there is positive stuff to talk about - decent performances, goals, decent decisions by the manager. After the last two frustrating draws there's not so much to talk about apart from general frustration that even though we weren't outplayed we couldn't seem to create anything.
Mole Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Please... a comedy moment if there ever was one. Wotte won 3 on the bounce and NATURALLY folk were please' date=' had he not done so we would have been p!ssed off and sitting with Charlton in the doomed slot. We have lost once in the last six. 11 points from 18 - and whatever we think of Wotte, this is still an improvement to what went on before. You guys want it both ways - when we aint getting the results, no matter how NICE JP is its all about points on the board - yet when we actually get some you do a 180 and suddenly its about what he says in public that is more important...and the moment we get two draws and defeat against the second team in teh league you prefer to score cheap points off fellow fans that hope for BETER results and safety - you simply cant make it up, unfeckinbelievable[/quote'] So what exactly are you saying?
sidthesquid Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Just four short weeks ago, they were falling over themselves to start threads about how wonderful Mr Wotte was...and how the rest of us should be shot for thinking differently. 'Oh we are going to be safe now if we continue like this' Yeah that lasted didn't it. Wotte made necessary changes when he came in, but the momentum has stopped. Why? Has he realised what he has to work with? (Players, not Rupert before all you clappys start to cream your pants ) We have the same problem now as we did when we got relegated from the Prem - not enough wins, drawing games we should win, and a squad high on quantity not quality.... Anyone left that still feels positive? I don't think anyone was happy clappy, just daring to feel (& voice) a little bit of optimism. I don't think anyone was fooled that a bunch of mediocrities had suddenly become great, but there was just a tantalising hope that we might have turned the corner, that was all
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Not so much positivity but still a little hope,not a lot, just a glimmer but of course if we screw up at Blackpool on Saturday the candle of hope will, i fear be extinguished for this season. A real MUST WIN on saturday...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Will there be a thread to counter this one ? you know one that says "where are all the protesters, 3 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss and you fickle bunch go quiet" ffs petty point scoring only fuels the divide...or is that the intention
DT Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 They've been replaced by android spambots I like them, especially their new single.
DT Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I'm more depressed about the continuing abuse of the apostrophe.
Scudamore Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Not so much positivity but still a little hope,not a lot, just a glimmer but of course if we screw up at Blackpool on Saturday the candle of hope will, i fear be extinguished for this season. A real MUST WIN on saturday... Saturday was a MUST WIN as far as i was concerned. The players seemed to think it was a preseason game though for some reason... Nevermind there is still plenty of hope to be had at the moment...
badgerx16 Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I'm more depressed about the continuing abuse of the apostrophe. What about the lowercase personal pronoun in Rotten Ronnie's "i'm loving it".
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 March, 2009 Author Posted 16 March, 2009 Please... a comedy moment if there ever was one. Wotte won 3 on the bounce and NATURALLY folk were please' date=' had he not done so we would have been p!ssed off and sitting with Charlton in the doomed slot. We have lost once in the last six. 11 points from 18 - and whatever we think of Wotte, this is still an improvement to what went on before. You guys want it both ways - when we aint getting the results, no matter how NICE JP is its all about points on the board - yet when we actually get some you do a 180 and suddenly its about what he says in public that is more important...and the moment we get two draws and defeat against the second team in teh league you prefer to score cheap points off fellow fans that hope for BETER results and safety - you simply cant make it up, unfeckinbelievable[/quote'] Well Frank, I'm not saying that I didn't think that we had turned the corner after those wins either - it's just that they were off the starting blocks trying to say we were all wrong all along....only for the last three games to show our true form this season. Problem is, we have dropped points in games we NEEDED to win. That can't be dressed up any other way. Scoring cheap points against others?? I guess you could make that accusation towards 98% of people on this forum...I want Saints to survive but I'm not going to sit back and accept the complete farce we have had this season to continue - what's better then - vent our collective spleens AFTER we are heading for League 1?
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 March, 2009 Author Posted 16 March, 2009 Always I mean without licking a battery terminal...
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Our defence has tightened up and our points per game have improved and if we'd started the season like this we would probably have been ok. However, it's all far too late. Now if only we had someone who could score goals.... From the Daily Mail today: Southampton are second from bottom and manager Mark Wotte bemoaned the absence of a 'clinical finisher' after they were held 0-0 at home by QPR. He said: 'You need somebody that can put the ball in the back of the net and that's three points.
Frank's cousin Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Well Frank, I'm not saying that I didn't think that we had turned the corner after those wins either - it's just that they were off the starting blocks trying to say we were all wrong all along....only for the last three games to show our true form this season. Problem is, we have dropped points in games we NEEDED to win. That can't be dressed up any other way. Scoring cheap points against others?? I guess you could make that accusation towards 98% of people on this forum...I want Saints to survive but I'm not going to sit back and accept the complete farce we have had this season to continue - what's better then - vent our collective spleens AFTER we are heading for League 1? Sure have dropped points aginst sides we would have hoped to beat, but we have gained quite a few against sides who would have expected to beat us - Preston, Cardiff etc. As we always do - grab points agains the better sides and lose them to the wekaer teams who tend totry and stifle the game... Those 3 wins have kept uis in the mix and there is still som way to go - This is where Wotte will show his true mettle. You are entitle to vent your spleen, but what is it going to achieve during teh last 8 games? Lowe aint going to sack Wotte now, so we just have to hope he pulls it out the bag. I was livid when Wotte was given the job - (sure UP can find my 'Wotte the F***?' thread;-)) because I could NOT see how he would bring enough change to teh ix to make a difference - what was not known at the time was that because we had no offers on those experienced players we might as well use them as we are paying from them anyway - which we did, and we got results - its now also down to those experienced players to do the business after being given the chance.
Saint Bones Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I'm here. We are still in it boys... Don't give up yet.
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I'm here. We are still in it boys... Don't give up yet. I take it you mean in the S h i t e.
trousers Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Our defence has tightened up and our points per game have improved and if we'd started the season like this we would probably have been ok. However, it's all far too late. Now if only we had someone who could score goals.... From the Daily Mail today: Southampton are second from bottom and manager Mark Wotte bemoaned the absence of a 'clinical finisher' after they were held 0-0 at home by QPR. He said: 'You need somebody that can put the ball in the back of the net and that's three points.
Saint Bones Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I take it you mean in the S h i t e. Ha Ha - that would cancel out my Happy Clappy Status. Till we are declared relegated and/or administrated there's hope.
Saintmike666 Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Forth in the CCC form table. Enough said really.. http://www.4thegame.com/statistics/championship/tables/currentform.html
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Forth in the CCC form table. Enough said really.. http://www.4thegame.com/statistics/championship/tables/currentform.html Unfortunately we would probably need to be top in that table to survive.
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Unfortunately we would probably need to be top in that table to survive. Or out of the bottom three in ours
Saint Bones Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Unfortunately we would probably need to be top in that table to survive. Cheer Up Grandad - We are not dead yet... We might need the :smt049defibulators:smt049 ( spelling ?) but we are still a chance to survive.
lenwilkins Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Ruperts cheerleaders are bracing themselves for egg on their faces. I wouldn't want to put egg on a cheerleader's face.
solentstars Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 its funny how the negative threads keep apearing when we lose or draw,its not the happy clappys i worry about but the victor meldrew and private frazers of this forum.
badgerx16 Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Forth in the CCC form table. Enough said really.. http://www.4thegame.com/statistics/championship/tables/currentform.html But look at where the last 2 teams we failed to beat are ! If you cannot score at home to QPR, you really do have a problem. Also, reduce that table down to the last 4 games and it isn't such good reading, particularly looking at Blackpool in comparison, ( we are about 14th and they are about 6th ).
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Or out of the bottom three in ours That might work! Shall we try it?
Whitey Grandad Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Cheer Up Grandad - We are not dead yet... We might need the :smt049defibulators:smt049 ( spelling ?) but we are still a chance to survive. I'm not despondent. Whatever happens I shall still get my fix of football next season, unless the excitement gets too much for me. (apparently it's defibrillator, and I had to look it up too )
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Our finishing was poor but knowing that we have been poor scorers all season, you also know we need to create a hatful of chances to hope we bury a couple. It's like me knowing the brakes are a bit iffy but driving right up somebody's arse all day - it's asking for trouble!! That said, results seemed to go a little bit for us on Saturday for a change and it's still all to play for. Perhaps Saturday will be the kick up the backside needed to know that three wins did not make us safe, simply gave us a bit of hope. I'm not giving up yet but we really do need to win this week to put pressure on those around us...
Toadhall Saint Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Our finishing was poor but knowing that we have been poor scorers all season, you also know we need to create a hatful of chances to hope we bury a couple. It's like me knowing the brakes are a bit iffy but driving right up somebody's arse all day - it's asking for trouble!! That said, results seemed to go a little bit for us on Saturday for a change and it's still all to play for. Perhaps Saturday will be the kick up the backside needed to know that three wins did not make us safe, simply gave us a bit of hope. I'm not giving up yet but we really do need to win this week to put pressure on those around us... That would make a change wouldn't it. Putting pressure on the others instead of them putting it on us!
St_Tel49 Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Will there be a thread to counter this one ? you know one that says "where are all the protesters, 3 wins, 2 draws, 1 loss and you fickle bunch go quiet" ffs petty point scoring only fuels the divide...or is that the intention Of course it is.
eelpie Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Just four short weeks ago, they were falling over themselves to start threads about how wonderful Mr Wotte was...and how the rest of us should be shot for thinking differently. 'Oh we are going to be safe now if we continue like this' Yeah that lasted didn't it. Wotte made necessary changes when he came in, but the momentum has stopped. Why? Has he realised what he has to work with? (Players, not Rupert before all you clappys start to cream your pants ) We have the same problem now as we did when we got relegated from the Prem - not enough wins, drawing games we should win, and a squad high on quantity not quality.... Anyone left that still feels positive? I don't think it is fair to be publically cynical about anyone for being over the moon because we had a run of three wins. Really I don't. I bet you were too, weren't you? No. I'm not positive, just not dead yet. Perhaps we should make the most of our last hours in the middle tier.
londonsaint1604 Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Just four short weeks ago, they were falling over themselves to start threads about how wonderful Mr Wotte was...and how the rest of us should be shot for thinking differently. 'Oh we are going to be safe now if we continue like this' Yeah that lasted didn't it. Wotte made necessary changes when he came in, but the momentum has stopped. Why? Has he realised what he has to work with? (Players, not Rupert before all you clappys start to cream your pants ) We have the same problem now as we did when we got relegated from the Prem - not enough wins, drawing games we should win, and a squad high on quantity not quality.... Anyone left that still feels positive? Yeah alright smarty-pants! I couldnt give a **** mate. I was feeling positive because we'd won 3 games in a row, funny that! So now I'm thinking: 'last 6 games we've had 3 wins, 2 draws and 1 defeat, conceding 3 goals, that's quite good form.' All I can say now is that I hope we get the wins we need to stay in this division. Maybe we will, maybe won't but either way I'll be watching saints next season and I'll still be enjoying it.
OldNick Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I put this on another thread, whilst not winning saturday was disappointing if you look at the form and how things went last season these things happen. 'So I looked back at this time last season to try and guage how our results went. The 9th game from the end of last season we beat Leicester 1-0 after drawing a game home to Ipswich and away to Wolves. 2 of those games would have been seen as must win. We followed the home win to Leicester up with the 5-0 away defeat at hull (due to some unfortunate injuries etc). The then 'must win 'game of Coventry finished in a 0-0 draw and then a loss to Cardiff ( i was confident we would get something there as they were looking to the cup final and had nothing to play for). A vital home game then came up which was high flying Bristol city which we won 2-0. Charlton away we drew 1-1 and then had the Burnley home 'must win' game against a side who were playing for their holidays. We lost 1-0 at home. That put us in dire straights and left us with the daunting thought of away to WBA and home to high flying play off chasing SU. Thankfully a brave display at WBA got us a point and left us with a 'definately must win' against SU. Basically Im trying to point out that whilst (even Wotte has said he expected us to win 1 of the 2 games) it is a real blow not to have won either of the last 2 home games there still will be twists and turns and we can still do save outselves.'
ottery st mary Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Give the happy clappys a break. Us cheerleaders and groupies are getting ready for the big end of season Cheerleaders championchips. We have been training very hard and due to Rupert and his cut backs we have had second rate Pom Poms and the Ra Ra skirts do not fit properly. We are doing our best. With all things considered we will be back..It does not matter we get relegated but one more win out of eight and we can say our Lord Rupert and his boy Wotte have been very sucessful. We strive to be a credit to Rupes...Do the results really matter it is the taking part that counts. In any case none of us happy clappys know anything about or even go to Saints football ..We love Rupert and we just enjoy giving you lovely genuine Saints supporters on this forum a hard time. We have asked Rupert for a pay rise next season..Making all our posts from home has been time consuming and exspensive...Not like when we all worked in that lovely office last season for Rupert. Happy Posters see you in Division 1....At least we go to Ruperts xmas party every year.
NickG Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Can't remember anyone thinking we were safe, or saying they were convinced totally about Wotte, but the form improved dramatically giving us hope - and we are not down. Of course we would be safe if we kept winning!
ottery st mary Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 Can't remember anyone thinking we were safe, or saying they were convinced totally about Wotte, but the form improved dramatically giving us hope - and we are not down. Of course we would be safe if we kept winning! Nick, did I misunderstand at our last training cheerleaders group, I was certain we agreed not to post for a while to give the posters a false sense of security.:smt049
Plumstead_Saint Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 its funny how the negative threads keep apearing when we lose or draw Seems pretty obvious to me, not "funny" at all.
londonsaint1604 Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I reckon the whole forum is in crisis. We've lost all momentum, everybody is fed-up and exahusted that yet another false dawn has come and gone, and nobody can be bothered posting. The final nail in the coffin of Southampton FC?
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 I don't think anyone was happy clappy, just daring to feel (& voice) a little bit of optimism. I don't think anyone was fooled that a bunch of mediocrities had suddenly become great, but there was just a tantalising hope that we might have turned the corner, that was all And it is the hoping which kills. I have long ago given up on optimism with Saints purely because of that. I found that expecting the worse leaves me either feeling slightly correct or ecstatically (sp) happy that we have survived wrong in my pessimism.
saintwarwick Posted 16 March, 2009 Posted 16 March, 2009 its funny how the negative threads keep apearing when we lose or draw,its not the happy clappys i worry about but the victor meldrew and private frazers of this forum. TBF the negative threads outnumber the positive ones due to our position in the league and possible relegation. I'm one of the positive ones though and admit we could get relegated but I will still be a happy clappy because it's not the end of the world.
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