70's Mike Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I can't think of anyone who Saints playing in L1 would affect less than you Stuey. Since when has quality of football got anything at all to do with how much enjoyment you get out of a Saturday afternoon. Your day is all about drinking at some god awful place like the Zeb bar before the match, arriving (late) at the match drunk. Leaving before the end of the first half to get a drink, getting back to your seat for the secnd half after the kick off and then leaving the match before it is over to get back to the pub. What goes on on the pitch is of far less interest to you than the excitement you gain from hearing that some of the yoof have been a bit 'nawty' as your role model Danny Dyer would say.... The rest of us will still be watching Saints play next season come what may. I'm sure you will only be missed in the Zeb bar..... Nasty Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I will endevour to attend as many games as possible,being a single dad it still wont be easy. Other than that i will be having a ****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Almost every week I promise never to go again.... every fecking week. Now I know what my best mate meant when he said he could give up smoking whenever he liked and in fact had given it up 4,200 times in the last ten years alone... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michelle Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 If things stay as they are, I will still be going to away games only. Home games are currently spent working, relaxing or very, very occasionally going to SMS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 It hurts to say it but I've had it with the way the club is being run. I won't be spending another penny on the club after the end of the season while Lowe and Wilde remain anywhere near it. I cannot and will not support this regime in any sense. The day after they go I will renew my season tickets, regardless of what league we are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 It hurts to say it but I've had it with the way the club is being run. I won't be spending another penny on the club after the end of the season while Lowe and Wilde remain anywhere near it. I cannot and will not support this regime in any sense. The day after they go I will renew my season tickets, regardless of what league we are in. after Lowe has gone, and you have renewed, will you still go if we get worse? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Watching Saints play Exeter and Plymouth in Div 1 and against Torquay the following season in Div 2. b What makes you so sure Torquay will be in Div 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dalek2003 Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Well, you have to make the most of things. League One is a new experience, if nothing else ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_ed Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I'll still be there. I fully understand peoples reasons for not going, but it's going to be really embarrassing seeing gates potentially as low as minus 10k. As low as minus 10k....how is that even possible? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Well, you have to make the most of things. League One is a new experience, if nothing else ! I'm particularly looking forward to the Johnstone's Paint Trophy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chi saint Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 ... what will you be doing instead of watching Saints? I am thinking about playing football on Sundays, and generally more D.I.Y and walking the dog on a Saturday. Next season promises to be the most interesting for quite a few years. So..... what other plans do people have next season instead of wasting money on Saints? In answer to your question, I will continue to attend as many games as I can. If it happens to be in Div 1 then so be it. In fact I will probably be as proud to be one of a few as I am currently. Thier is a perverse satisfaction in facing up to adversity, and of course when we bounce back one day i'll be able to regale my grandchildren on how I and a chosen few stuck with Saints through the lean times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 What makes you so sure Torquay will be in Div 2. You could be right. They may be in Div 1 by then..Passing ships in the night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I think it's only sensible to reserve judgment until the dawn of the season. Regardless of relegation or not, a board with the best interests of the football team at heart, a manager who inspires confidence and a not completely sheeeeiiiiite squad, would give me the impetus to go. Having said that, if we're in League One I'm certainly not going to pay upwards of £20 for a ticket. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 In answer to your question, I will continue to attend as many games as I can. If it happens to be in Div 1 then so be it. In fact I will probably be as proud to be one of a few as I am currently. Thier is a perverse satisfaction in facing up to adversity, and of course when we bounce back one day i'll be able to regale my grandchildren on how I and a chosen few stuck with Saints through the lean(er) times. Unless you think we've had our thick recently??!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy_Porter Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 If we do go down i'll keep going unless it's some **** take price for the ST renewals and then i'd probably just go to the weekend games and get individual tickets. Even though we've been fairly **** all season i've still enjoyed the majority of the season. Sort of looking forward to the Johnsons paint trophy or whatever it's called if we go down, a decent cup run with the chance of Wembley at the end would be pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigtonesfc Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I shall be there,cos im from Southampton,whatever league they are in wont change where i come from!!...plus i like the day on the lash!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wild-saint Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I plan to spend more time posting on TSW (probably with a new username). i didnt think you watched this year, so no change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 will still be sat up till 2am listening to us struggle as per usual. Ha Ha - indeed. Lucky for me it starts at midnight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGTL Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I will do what I have done mostly this season, and that's away games only. Closing Block 1 was it for me as far as home games are concerned. Bring on Blackpool this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
offix Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 what next season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 I will do what I have done mostly this season, and that's away games only. Closing Block 1 was it for me as far as home games are concerned. Bring on Blackpool this weekend. So closing one block at SMS is your reason for not attending home games, you still have 40 odd other choice of blocks. Still whilst we are struggling to pay the bills you are quite willing to put money into other clubs coffers without the choice where you stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 will still be sat up till 2am listening to us struggle as per usual. UHHHH RIGHT! You need to be telling me how you are managing to listen to matches and you need to be telling me RIGHT now Mister. Seriously, I am in the same boat as you...well almost. You can listen to games...I don't seem to be able too. Any idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greedyfly Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Ha Ha - indeed. Lucky for me it starts at midnight Same reply goes to you.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Bones Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Saints TV mate - Live commentary for home games. Away games you can normally get a link from the opposition if the Saints TV doesn't have coverage. I'd be lost without it - I can't see the games - So this is my Season Ticket Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thorpe-le-Saint Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Urm, I'll be going to watch Saints. What a silly question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 after Lowe has gone, and you have renewed, will you still go if we get worse? Why not? Hufton, like me, has set out his position which is based on principle. Perhaps you do not understand what that involves. And if the ST has been bought and paid for, there would be a good reason to attend by itself. Anyway, why would it be likely that if Lowe and the Quisling go, things would get worse? As the two of them have been the main architects of our current demise, the likelihood is that things will improve when they have gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 I'll be there - it will be my fortieth season of misery, how could I miss it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 17 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Urm, I'll be going to watch Saints. What a silly question. Why is it a silly question, I think ST's will half next season, which means the majority of people will find other things to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chocco boxo Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Last game of the season next year, Saints need to draw at home to win League 1, I bet we will all be there? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 Why not? Hufton, like me, has set out his position which is based on principle. Perhaps you do not understand what that involves. And if the ST has been bought and paid for, there would be a good reason to attend by itself. Anyway, why would it be likely that if Lowe and the Quisling go, things would get worse? As the two of them have been the main architects of our current demise, the likelihood is that things will improve when they have gone. you are right, I don't understand. I wrongly assumed you didn't go while Lowe was here as his decisions had dteriotated the club, so if the next person made it worse assumed you would have the same view. But if its just because you don't like him then I don't understand (not the not liking him bit but the not going). Support the team not the boardroom. Get over your feelings on personalities. Time for sulking has gone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 after Lowe has gone, and you have renewed, will you still go if we get worse? If we have a board that makes sensible decisions, backs the manager to pick and assemble a team (as far as financial constraints allow) and don't treat the fans, ie their customers, with total contempt then I would go whatever league we are in. But its a moot point, we can't possibly get any worse if Lowe goes;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 17 March, 2009 Share Posted 17 March, 2009 I will still go but I hope for much better both on the pitch and from the Boardroom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 If we have a board that makes sensible decisions, backs the manager to pick and assemble a team (as far as financial constraints allow) and don't treat the fans, ie their customers, with total contempt then I would go whatever league we are in. But its a moot point, we can't possibly get any worse if Lowe goes;) i dont see how the fans have been treated any differently under Lowe than they have since year dot.If you are gullible enough to believe that they are no more interested in you than they are any other punter then you are naive.We are cash cows, and if you really think that any football fan is seen as anything else im surprised. The clubs may say that we are important, but we are not and sadly like most businesses you are only as good as your last purchase. The fans wanted Lawrie gone, did they get it? they wanted Branfoot gone, did they get it? The list can go on and on, the club does as it wants always has done and always will do. yes it may make certain allowances but whether it was George reader, Crouch, Askham or Lowe its first priority was always to them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Give it to Ron Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 i dont see how the fans have been treated any differently under Lowe than they have since year dot.If you are gullible enough to believe that they are no more interested in you than they are any other punter then you are naive.We are cash cows, and if you really think that any football fan is seen as anything else im surprised. The clubs may say that we are important, but we are not and sadly like most businesses you are only as good as your last purchase. The fans wanted Lawrie gone, did they get it? they wanted Branfoot gone, did they get it? The list can go on and on, the club does as it wants always has done and always will do. yes it may make certain allowances but whether it was George reader, Crouch, Askham or Lowe its first priority was always to them So why start a Fans Parliament? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 never really wanted to spend saturday afternoon doing anything other than watch the Saints. It would be better if we were in a good league, and lowe was replaced by someone with either cash or love of the club, but even if he isn't replaced I'll still be there. How often depends on the ticket prices. Either way, I'll be looking forward to what these days is called matchday 1, whatever league we are in. Old habits die hard, and when, one day far in the future,when we are back in the PL,those days watching crap teams in crap places will all have been worthwhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 never really wanted to spend saturday afternoon doing anything other than watch the Saints. It would be better if we were in a good league, and lowe was replaced by someone with either cash or love of the club, but even if he isn't replaced I'll still be there. How often depends on the ticket prices. Either way, I'll be looking forward to what these days is called matchday 1, whatever league we are in. Old habits die hard, and when, one day far in the future,when we are back in the PL,those days watching crap teams in crap places will all have been worthwhile. Could not agree more. I have two Chelsea supporting pals who are at pains to tell anyone and everyone they (and me) were there when Chelsea came within a few points of the Third Division!!! What they have today only matters because of who and what they were... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 i dont see how the fans have been treated any differently under Lowe than they have since year dot.If you are gullible enough to believe that they are no more interested in you than they are any other punter then you are naive.We are cash cows, and if you really think that any football fan is seen as anything else im surprised. The clubs may say that we are important, but we are not and sadly like most businesses you are only as good as your last purchase. The fans wanted Lawrie gone, did they get it? they wanted Branfoot gone, did they get it? The list can go on and on, the club does as it wants always has done and always will do. yes it may make certain allowances but whether it was George reader, Crouch, Askham or Lowe its first priority was always to them So we are now wanted by Mr Lowe and Mr Wilde...Why? Very strange indeed.:smt017 But then again, nick, as someone close to the club Directors/players you say they are not interested in us as fans.. Make your mind up Do they want us , need us or not interested in us...They have never wanted to talk with us only at us of late. We know what they really think.:---) In my view you and big nick are the sort they want on this Luv in.:smt049 You can have a fans parliament and ask one hundred questions and you will only get the same response you get as an individual writting a letter to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 i dont see how the fans have been treated any differently under Lowe than they have since year dot.If you are gullible enough to believe that they are no more interested in you than they are any other punter then you are naive.We are cash cows, and if you really think that any football fan is seen as anything else im surprised. The clubs may say that we are important, but we are not and sadly like most businesses you are only as good as your last purchase. The fans wanted Lawrie gone, did they get it? they wanted Branfoot gone, did they get it? The list can go on and on, the club does as it wants always has done and always will do. yes it may make certain allowances but whether it was George reader, Crouch, Askham or Lowe its first priority was always to them To start with though Nick, the board must realise that we are not customers but fans - there is a massive difference. Customers have choices. We all know that ultimately we will pay money as part of this deal - although fans don't need to, they could easily support from their armchairs for nothing - and that's fine. But if you start with the premise that fans are customers you end up having a very poor relationship with them. You'd be better off looking upon fans as 'partners' - stakeholders - to use a horrible phrase! We have something more to give than money - at least I believe we do, and so judging by your usual posts do you!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 If we do go down i'll keep going unless it's some **** take price for the ST renewals and then i'd probably just go to the weekend games and get individual tickets. Even though we've been fairly **** all season i've still enjoyed the majority of the season. Sort of looking forward to the Johnsons paint trophy or whatever it's called if we go down, a decent cup run with the chance of Wembley at the end would be pretty good. Championship teams would suddenly be a big draw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mini_me Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 I will tell the missus I am going to football and probably stay in the pub .... she won't notice the difference when I roll in at 18:30... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 18 March, 2009 Share Posted 18 March, 2009 I will tell the missus I am going to football and probably stay in the pub .... she won't notice the difference when I roll in at 18:30... she will, you'll be p!ssed and not just p!ssed off!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 March, 2009 Share Posted 19 March, 2009 So why start a Fans Parliament? PR IMO, which is a difference Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 March, 2009 Share Posted 19 March, 2009 So we are now wanted by Mr Lowe and Mr Wilde...Why? Very strange indeed.:smt017 But then again, nick, as someone close to the club Directors/players you say they are not interested in us as fans.. Make your mind up Do they want us , need us or not interested in us...They have never wanted to talk with us only at us of late. We know what they really think.:---) In my view you and big nick are the sort they want on this Luv in.:smt049 You can have a fans parliament and ask one hundred questions and you will only get the same response you get as an individual writting a letter to them. I put it as I see it. I dont believe the club has really been interested in fans in the 40 years I have been going except for me paying as much as they could get from me. I understand that, and do except I am my own worst enemy in that. Of course the club want us a paying customers but why do they want us for anything more that that? Do you think McDonalds want their customers for anything more than to sell them a few more Happy Meals, their promotions and family friendly pitch is all about targetting those people IMO. Perhaps I have held it close to me from my childhood experience how we were treated by the club as kids and so that is where i have got my cynicism about it. As for the Parliament, i dont see what it could bring. Perhaps the burger bars will supply sauce in better bottles or th\at we alos may have Milky ways sold as well as Yorkies but I odubt it will have any say on who runs the club or who is installed as manager, rightly so by the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 March, 2009 Share Posted 19 March, 2009 To start with though Nick, the board must realise that we are not customers but fans - there is a massive difference. Customers have choices. We all know that ultimately we will pay money as part of this deal - although fans don't need to, they could easily support from their armchairs for nothing - and that's fine. But if you start with the premise that fans are customers you end up having a very poor relationship with them. You'd be better off looking upon fans as 'partners' - stakeholders - to use a horrible phrase! We have something more to give than money - at least I believe we do, and so judging by your usual posts do you!! that is all down to PR. Something the club were very slick on when we were in the PL. Visiting hospitals and going to schools is correct and probably done for the right reasons.Embracing the younger fans was done for the good reason of if you get them young they are fans forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 March, 2009 Share Posted 19 March, 2009 PR IMO, which is a difference Yes, because we are all so f**king stupid to fall for such flattery, arent we ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 March, 2009 Share Posted 19 March, 2009 Yes, because we are all so f**king stupid to fall for such flattery, arent we ? Im not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 March, 2009 Share Posted 19 March, 2009 Im not. Post of the Year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 19 March, 2009 Share Posted 19 March, 2009 Post of the Year Could you nominate it as im too modest to do so myself..thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 19 March, 2009 Share Posted 19 March, 2009 I put it as I see it. I dont believe the club has really been interested in fans in the 40 years I have been going except for me paying as much as they could get from me. I understand that, and do except I am my own worst enemy in that. Of course the club want us a paying customers but why do they want us for anything more that that? Do you think McDonalds want their customers for anything more than to sell them a few more Happy Meals, their promotions and family friendly pitch is all about targetting those people IMO. Perhaps I have held it close to me from my childhood experience how we were treated by the club as kids and so that is where i have got my cynicism about it. As for the Parliament, i dont see what it could bring. Perhaps the burger bars will supply sauce in better bottles or th\at we alos may have Milky ways sold as well as Yorkies but I odubt it will have any say on who runs the club or who is installed as manager, rightly so by the way. Fair comment..Particularly regarding the Parliament..It does not add anything at all and to the majority of fans perception of Rupert or what he has done to this club.:smt049 As for Darling Michael anyone can guess what Rupert has told him to do. Further suggest that the Club ie Rupert at least smile whilst he takes your money.....YOU know he would not even lower himself to interact with the majority of fans. Rupert is the problem and has been from the day he took the club via his retirement homes group. Yes they really are The Lavender Hill Mob..Sorry to hark on about this shambles that dare to call themselves Directors.I really can't understand how if any of you Lowe Luvvies are genuine Saints supporters continue fall for this evil man parading as a business man.:---) I know for sure, in my opinion backed by many of their posts, the majority of Luvvies are not true fans of The Saints.:smt017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
teamsaint Posted 19 March, 2009 Share Posted 19 March, 2009 Since the club want to treat us as customers, (and bad treatment of supporters didn't begin with RL) I would suggest that they start treating us not just as customers, but as customers that they REALLY want to be good customers. expensive ST prices, sporadic offers on match by match tickets allied to a poor product and a generally complacent attitude really don't help. In a weak market you have to sell hard. The general attitude at SMS seems to be "here we are, turn up or don't" I'm going to be back at SMS next season, whatever happens, but I think that I , and a lot like me, will be back a lot more often if the club make us feel wanted. This means: A very attractive ST offer. (£300 or less.) Great offers on match to match tickets, (3 games for £40?) An initiative on a customer friendly approach in everything the club does. ("Enjoy the game?") Add your own as appropriate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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