Arizona Posted 14 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 March, 2009 We just don't Seem to have any sparK in midfield. If today's game was, As it sounded, an even more boring copy of the Derby match, it's just hoofball. There's no Creativity there. We need someone in midfield with a bit of flair. An experiencEd player who can lead the younger lads. Someone who can put a decent cross in and chip in with a few goaLs of his own. If only we had a player like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gaz Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Erm.....aren't we undeated in 4 games? How does that compare to recent form tables of other sides? Don't be so damn negative - I'm sure we'll stay up on this form. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Erm.....aren't we undeated in 4 games? How does that compare to recent form tables of other sides? Don't be so damn negative - I'm sure we'll stay up on this form. No we lost at Birmingham last week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoccerMom Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Just back, and I'd say we were lucky to get the point - but not entirely because we played badly. Really unfocussed, nervous, scrappy game, but for the first time in ages I think that the officials really did play a part in that. They were shocking, and the ref lost control in the first half, completely cowed by a very physical and nasty QPR side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Erm.....aren't we undeated in 4 games? How does that compare to recent form tables of other sides? Don't be so damn negative - I'm sure we'll stay up on this form. I'll say it again at the risk of sounding like a broken record, but draws - home draws at that - are not going to do the job at the business end of the season. "This form", as you put it, is not going to get us a 50% win ratio in the next 8 games - the very record others are stating we need to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 a very physical and nasty QPR side. they always are,they must use the same recruitment agency as Al Capone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 My god Euell and Skacel are horrific. First half was stupidly boring, 2nd half was better and we should have won. I think we will be ok, its going to be close but 6 points from our next 2 would make this and the Derby point look alot better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 I expected a draw from this game but not the awful football (that might breach the trade description act) I watched today. It was dire. Nothing more to say Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 I'd have taken a point to be honest, purely because I felt we might slip up here. I know it's not great, and our profligacy is lamentable, but at least we are still picking points up - even if they should be 3, not 1. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 My god Euell and Skacel are horrific. . What?? they're highly paid international stars I'll have you know. With whatever we pay them we could have a whole team of CCC players. Whoever signed them should be hung drawn and quartered and then thrown to the lions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Under Weststand Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 2 home draws in a week & only 2-points from 6 available against eminently beatable opposition is just not good enough. Just got in & from initial reports from what I've read we sound like we've not really created any clear cut chances again. I know its not over yet but it's getting increasingly difficult to see where the wins are going to come from to keep us up. We just don't seem to have what it takes. Struggled all season to score goals & ultimately that is what will do for us. Draws just don't cut it at this end of the season. Hope I'm wrong but fear the worst now, these last two games were crucial but instead of kicking on we've fallen backwards again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Marco Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Agree with you Soccermum. We were very lucky to come away with a point for the second home game in a row i felt. What has happened to us? We had 3 really good results matched with good performances and now we have had 3 dire ones? This game was almost as awful as the Derby game. We looked clueless and if we played until this time next year with no opponents on the pitch we still wouldn't of created anything. 2 points from the last 9, 2 of those home games not looking good at all. Blackpool winning was a big blow for us as Barnsley have 2 games in hand on us so chances are they will get out of it. 4 massive points that have passed us by. On current form i don't think the last game of the season vs Forest will matter at all as we will both be down by then. Whoever it was who once said draws are what kill you was right. We got a week off now until the Blackpool game. In midweek Barnsley play one of their games in hand. We have to beat Blackpool, that for me is the game of games. Lose/draw that one and i think we would need to win 5 of the 7 to stay up and that will not happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 we could have played until next week and still not scored, will someone please tell me why it is that DMG stayed on for the whole game????? come to think of it, why does he start every game????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 we could have played until next week and still not scored, will someone please tell me why it is that DMG stayed on for the whole game????? come to think of it, why does he start every game????? Who else was there on the bench?? that's the problem, saga,DMG,lallana all woeful apparently yet we just had BWP(;)) and at the limit Thompson as attacking options.We're down to the bare bones and what you see is what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papa Shango Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 My god Euell and Skacel are horrific. Oh sorry are they keeping some of your mates out of team? They weren't great today, but they've definitely improved the team in recent months (Especially Euell). The real reason we are down we are is because of useless players like your buddies NoGoaldrick and Lancersh*t. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Can't believe people are claiming we didn't create anything... Surman is going to have 2 or 3 more threads made all for himself after todays 2/3 vile attempts at scoring from 8 yards out. Euell has had at least 2 horrible attempts a goal plus a couple where his posistional sense and strength has given him everything he's needed to take a touch, look up, pick a spot and finish but only to see him prove he's got the touch of Ian Huntley and couldn't finish a packet of crisps. Plus I've just remembered Lallana's sitter. We created chances we just cant score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Who else was there on the bench?? that's the problem, saga,DMG,lallana all woeful apparently yet we just had BWP(;)) and at the limit Thompson as attacking options.We're down to the bare bones and what you see is what we have. ok so why not play AL in the hole and have Jake on the right? I just dong get how it is that DMG plays all the time, he was non existant today and yet still managed to play the 90 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 No score bore, not what I expected today, re-open the Surman miss thread from Tuesday, next three will be the ones to determine our survival in this league, as written in most of my school reports "must do better" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Oh sorry are they keeping some of your mates out of team? They weren't great today, but they've definitely improved the team in recent months (Especially Euell). The real reason we are down we are is because of useless players like your buddies NoGoaldrick and Lancersh*t. To be fair to Euell he's done well the last few weeks. You can't defend his performance today and his actual ability when it comes to controlling a ball and nor can you argue the fact that Skacel has actually failed to perform for this club going forward and today got roasted by Routledge, who wound him up so much he resorted to getting skinned and then taking him out on a regular basis. You can slag McGoldrick off all you want, he was better than Euell today and I've never spoke to him in my life so i'm not his buddy but don't let that stop you slagging him for no real reason other than you like most people on this forum need a scapegoat despite him being alot better lately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ #51 Today, 01:06 AM trousers Full Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Maggie Philbin's coal bunker Posts: 4,551 I feel a 0-0 in my waters [/url] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ I shall be selling my bodily fluids in 100ml bottles on EBAY from Monday onwards. Will post details here in due course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 (edited) I expected a draw from this game Expected a draw? At home? To one of the weakest sides on current form coming into the game? Actually, so did I.... Edited 14 March, 2009 by trousers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 A pants game of football which I was glad to leave ten minutes early to watch crops growing alongside the M3 for more entertainment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 To be fair to Euell he's done well the last few weeks. You can't defend his performance today and his actual ability when it comes to controlling a ball and nor can you argue the fact that Skacel has actually failed to perform for this club going forward and today got roasted by Routledge, who wound him up so much he resorted to getting skinned and then taking him out on a regular basis. You can slag McGoldrick off all you want, he was better than Euell today and I've never spoke to him in my life so i'm not his buddy but don't let that stop you slagging him for no real reason other than you like most people on this forum need a scapegoat despite him being alot better lately. Mate, you need glasses. Euell actually put himself about well but his finishing was woeful. McGoaldrought played like a drain. Mind you, they all did. A woeful example of the worst kind of boll0x awful football that is driving away fans in their droves. I'd rather remove my own spleen than watch another game like that. In fact, just bottle that game and sell it as an anaesthetic... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Very poor, no real threat other than Surman. Yes he missed a couple of easy chances but until he breaks from midfield are attacks are sterile , if only Lallana would do the same thing on the right, the one time he ran at them directly he split them open , missed. After that display i fear that any team who sets out not to lose and get 10 behind the ball will hold us to a draw at best for us Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spudsaint Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Ain't that the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badgerx16 Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 If ever there were two 'must wins' it is now Blackpool and Charlton; a couple of raggy 1-0's will be fine. Looking at the table, form, and fixtures, I think we need to ensure we are watching Forest and Plymouth. Forget the rest, I think they are 2 we can certainly overhaul. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 I'll have £50 with you. I bet we will go down. You bet we will stay up. Do you accept the bet? I wouldn't as its still so up in the air, I am guessing you wouldn't be confident enough to put every penny you have on it, so maybe have some hope still! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 14 March, 2009 Author Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Oh sorry are they keeping some of your mates out of team? They weren't great today, but they've definitely improved the team in recent months (Especially Euell). The real reason we are down we are is because of useless players like your buddies NoGoaldrick and Lancersh*t. According to Hopkins, Skacel has been the worst player on the pitch in every games he's played this season. Either he is Derek Riordan or he just has some weird obsession. In a game where we kept a clean sheet and had, by the sounds of it, two shots on goal, I struggle to believe our left back was the main instigator. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 According to Hopkins, Skacel has been the worst player on the pitch in every games he's played this season. Either he is Derek Riordan or he just has some weird obsession. In a game where we kept a clean sheet and had, by the sounds of it, two shots on goal, I struggle to believe our left back was the main instigator. Two shots on goal? Did I blink. One shot from Gillett that frankly would have struggled to cross the line under its own steam and Lallana opting to use his right foot to dissect post and corner flag when his left foot would have seen the net bulge... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 To quote Bill Shankly: "We murdered them 0-0." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Two shots on goal? Did I blink. One shot from Gillett that frankly would have struggled to cross the line under its own steam and Lallana opting to use his right foot to dissect post and corner flag when his left foot would have seen the net bulge... do not forget Euells one on one with keeper in first 10 mins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 do not forget Euells one on one with keeper in first 10 mins Ah correct; the one that Redknapp's wife could have scored. In fact, even Darren Bent might have scored but not today for Euell. Shame, set the pattern for the game and the game didn't let us down... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Very poor game from two very poor sides, we are not down yet, we are still in with a chance to stay up but it is going to be a tall order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 To quote Bill Shankly: "We murdered them 0-0." if only that was true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 To quote Bill Shankly: "We murdered them 0-0." There was a murder today. For eighty minutes we murdered Championship football until I could take no more. If we murdered QPR for the last ten minutes, I would expect us to be out on parole soon enough to murder another game... sadly... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Very poor game from two very poor sides, we are not down yet, we are still in with a chance to stay up but it is going to be a tall order. All that's required is to reignite the passion that saw us win three on the spin against three top sides. What the hell went wrong??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamilton Saint Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Have we ever won a "must-win" game? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Have we ever won a "must-win" game? yes but we had real talent then and players who gave their all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Have we ever won a "must-win" game? I accept losing. I'm a SAINT so I've grown up with it. But today was awful. Last week I watched beaten horses give more to finish 13th at Cheltenham. Where was the anger, fight, heart, passion and will that's required in our position?? One booking for a rash challenge? I would like to have seen a bit more tackling and a bit less pedestrian observation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 All that's required is to reignite the passion that saw us win three on the spin against three top sides. What the hell went wrong??? Top of the table sides probably play to win and not play to draw and consider themselves lucky if they get a flukey goal.5 across midfiekld says only 1 thing, we're here for the draw try to break us down and make sure we don't hit you on the break; To win that sort of match you need individual talent, some-one who can distill a nano-second of pure footballing magic. Unfortunately we don't have that sort of player available just now,you also need someone who, if they get a clear shot at goal ,won't f**k it up.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Top of the table sides probably play to win and not play to draw and consider themselves lucky if they get a flukey goal.5 across midfiekld says only 1 thing, we're here for the draw try to break us down and make sure we don't hit you on the break; To win that sort of match you need individual talent, some-one who can distill a nano-second of pure footballing magic. Unfortunately we don't have that sort of player available just now,you also need someone who, if they get a clear shot at goal ,won't f**k it up.. To win today's match we needed someone who wanted it a bit more in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 To win today's match we needed someone who wanted it a bit more in my opinion. I'm sure that they all put in a lot of effort but got frustrated by the continuing misses on goal again. If you look at our 3 wins of late they all have one common factor-we scored fairly early,settles therm down in my opinion. Let's face it the stakes are pretty high in every game now and I doubt that any of our attacking players are really comfortable with the pressure,either because they don't give a toss or because they want to win but are unsure of their ability to do so.I'm sure that this is Surman's problem, the pressure has got to him because he wants to win so badly for the club he loves.Unless of course being a dad (a relatively young one at that) is getting to him. Some blokes don't overate it, I know this I wasn't very comfortable with it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 I also thought we were back to passing it for the sake of it, probably down to lack of confidence as no one appeared to want responsiblilty to hurt qpr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flyer Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 To quote Bill Shankly: "We murdered them 0-0." QPR had more shots, more shots on goal, more corners and more possession. It was a boring game, neither side deserved to win. The ref bottled 2 nailed on handball decisions, one for each side in the 2nd half. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 I'm sure that they all put in a lot of effort but got frustrated by the continuing misses on goal again. If you look at our 3 wins of late they all have one common factor-we scored fairly early,settles therm down in my opinion. Let's face it the stakes are pretty high in every game now and I doubt that any of our attacking players are really comfortable with the pressure,either because they don't give a toss or because they want to win but are unsure of their ability to do so.I'm sure that this is Surman's problem, the pressure has got to him because he wants to win so badly for the club he loves.Unless of course being a dad (a relatively young one at that) is getting to him. Some blokes don't overate it, I know this I wasn't very comfortable with it either. Today I thought Surman was the one bloke on the park who really WAS trying. Some of his colleagues - Saga, McG, Lallana prime among them - simply strolled around for long periods. The key to our Cardiff win was that we chased and harried from front to back. Today we didn't. We meandered through the game. Not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Why why why why why why why was Wotton about to come on when there was a minute left??? Why why why why why why why did Euell try to go round the keeper instead of just shooting??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Today I thought Surman was the one bloke on the park who really WAS trying. Some of his colleagues - Saga, McG, Lallana prime among them - simply strolled around for long periods. The key to our Cardiff win was that we chased and harried from front to back. Today we didn't. We meandered through the game. Not good. Well as everyone already knows I don't rate Lallana, I think he's way out of his depth and his presence is like playing with 10 men to me.Saga"s always been like that, he blows hot and cold,probably needs a rest again but as we have no viable alternative it's not likely.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Today I thought Surman was the one bloke on the park who really WAS trying. Some of his colleagues - Saga, McG, Lallana prime among them - simply strolled around for long periods. The key to our Cardiff win was that we chased and harried from front to back. Today we didn't. We meandered through the game. Not good. Not saying he isn't trying, probably trying too hard because he loves the club. But he's missed a couple of sitters, so have others and situation is obviously getting to them; Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 At least we've got a week for the lads to rest up now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Not saying he isn't trying, probably trying too hard because he loves the club. But he's missed a couple of sitters, so have others and situation is obviously getting to them; If we're blaming someone for missing sitters then surely we should be discussing Jason Euell. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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