Saint_clark Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 I agree we have to stay in the league but we may as well replace all our youngsters with loanees . That I am afraid is ridiculous James and Surman must be given an extended run It's ridiculous playing them in defense, when 1. They are midfielders and 2. They are poor in those positions (fullback). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MINIBARCELONASAINT Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 HE ISNT TRAINING WITH US END OF - i know Jake Thomson and he has said so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 It's ridiculous playing them in defense, when 1. They are midfielders and 2. They are poor in those positions (fullback). Amazing comment. Is it not possible they may become excellent fullbacks Jan P thinks so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 Amazing comment. Is it not possible they may become excellent fullbacks Jan P thinks so It is possible. But considering our entire club depends on the next couple of seasons, i'd rather not risk it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 It is possible. But considering our entire club depends on the next couple of seasons, i'd rather not risk it. OK fair enough but I think you will find James and Surman will be the first choice full backs unless Andrew goes. JP is only looking for another forward and is building for the future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 There is an Ian Harte rumour every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John B Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 There is an Ian Harte rumour every year I doubt if he will be playing for us in the near future Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjinksie Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 Surely his wages would be too high ? has been with no contract, he'll take what he gets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
locks heath saint 2 Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 ffff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Tango Man Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 Must have missed something..why would Surman leave us for Reading ???? Or is this a fund rasing exercise again, sorry but I have been away for a long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 He was offered a deal at Wolves but he rejected it. They only offered him a monthly rolling contract. thats supports my point. McArthy only rates him worthy of a month to month. Hardly a glowing endorsement is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Godfather Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 I doubt if he comes cheap on wages either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 Ian Harte lost all ability to run about 5 years ago. he's the slowest fullback you've ever seen, on a par with Jermaine Wright for pace. He would 'get by' in this league but that's all. Personally - wouldn;t want him anyway. McCarthy knows him well as his manager for Ireland and he obviously doesn't fancy him any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davefizzy14 Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wiltshire Saint Posted 21 August, 2008 Share Posted 21 August, 2008 ffff seconded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnsie Posted 22 August, 2008 Share Posted 22 August, 2008 Lads, this would be an utter catastrophe IMO. I watched Harte play for Ireland (and his various clubs) for years, and I always thought he was an accident waiting to happen, even in his heyday. He had the pace and turning circle of a North Sea Oil tanker even back then, and I shudder to think how several injury-ravaged seasons have affected him on that front. He is also a simply appalling defender: dreadful positional sense, dives in, *constantly* gives the ball away sloppily in dangerous positions. Avoid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scummer Posted 22 August, 2008 Share Posted 22 August, 2008 Lads, this would be an utter catastrophe IMO. I watched Harte play for Ireland (and his various clubs) for years, and I always thought he was an accident waiting to happen, even in his heyday. He had the pace and turning circle of a North Sea Oil tanker even back then, and I shudder to think how several injury-ravaged seasons have affected him on that front. He is also a simply appalling defender: dreadful positional sense, dives in, *constantly* gives the ball away sloppily in dangerous positions. Avoid. The problem is, people remember he scored a few decent free kicks for Leeds about 7 years ago and think he's still like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 22 August, 2008 Author Share Posted 22 August, 2008 Ian Harte lost all ability to run about 5 years ago. he's the slowest fullback you've ever seen, on a par with Jermaine Wright for pace. He would 'get by' in this league but that's all. Personally - wouldn;t want him anyway. McCarthy knows him well as his manager for Ireland and he obviously doesn't fancy him any more. Well he did offer him a month to month contract which negates the highlighted part of your post. Then again if you mean he 'doesn't fancy him any more' in a different way then I cannot answer that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 22 August, 2008 Share Posted 22 August, 2008 Ian Harte lost all ability to run about 5 years ago. he's the slowest fullback you've ever seen, on a par with Jermaine Wright for pace. He would 'get by' in this league but that's all. Personally - wouldn;t want him anyway. McCarthy knows him well as his manager for Ireland and he obviously doesn't fancy him any more. Oh, never knew that, who is McCarthy in love with now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 22 August, 2008 Share Posted 22 August, 2008 Oh, never knew that, who is McCarthy in love with now? Roy Keane Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skings80 Posted 22 August, 2008 Share Posted 22 August, 2008 have we heard whether harte is signing yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 August, 2008 Share Posted 22 August, 2008 Well he did offer him a month to month contract which negates the highlighted part of your post. Then again if you mean he 'doesn't fancy him any more' in a different way then I cannot answer that If he rated him he'd have offered him a years contract. he didn't. I am very happy that he is not a target of ours. We need a full back that offers pace, doesn't ballwatch, is willing to put his head in and when he finds himself in the attackign third doesn't **** himself and cross into row z. These facets will do fine for now, but if he has a touch of class about him, is an athlete and can score the odd goal now and then we'll be laughing. We are in the second tier of English football. The `4th biggest league in the world'. You'd think even with our financial problems we'd be able to do better than playing two central midfielders there FFS. If we sign Pulis I will be fuming. We have Wotton, Schneiderlin, Gillett, Surman, James, Lallana already. What we need is a left back and a right back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DT Posted 22 August, 2008 Share Posted 22 August, 2008 and a goalkeeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chez Posted 22 August, 2008 Share Posted 22 August, 2008 and a goalkeeper we signed Forecast. How many more do we need? Actually scrub my comment about needin a right back as Cork can fill that role apparently. A striker would be good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan The Flames Posted 23 August, 2008 Share Posted 23 August, 2008 More like a mouth to mouth deal to revive a dying career, I hope we dont sign him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mustapha Fag Posted 23 August, 2008 Share Posted 23 August, 2008 HE ISNT TRAINING WITH US END OF - i know Jake Thomson and he has said so shouldnt this comment be the end of this conversation? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 August, 2008 Share Posted 23 August, 2008 shouldnt this comment be the end of this conversation? only if its true. how do we know for sure that it is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 August, 2008 Share Posted 23 August, 2008 only if its true. how do we know for sure that it is? He said it was. Why would someone on message board make something up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew Le God Posted 23 August, 2008 Share Posted 23 August, 2008 He said it was. Why would someone on message board make something up? to make takeover threads more interesting and/or painful to read? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buctootim Posted 23 August, 2008 Share Posted 23 August, 2008 to make takeover threads more interesting and/or painful to read? Show me an example on TSW where someone has been less than objective or wholehearted with the truth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Apparently been offered a 1 year contract, let's wait and see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Snowballs2 Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Apparently been offered a 1 year contract, let's wait and see. Can you change your avatar I keep going crosseyed and the head is going up and down like a Chrchill Insurance dog woof woof Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Apparently been offered a 1 year contract, let's wait and see. where'd you see that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Professor Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Exhibit A : The Jack Cork thread. Talk about people only seeing what they want to. Second time this week I've agreed with an Alpine comment. Just what AS does every time. As for Harte, I'd be happy to accept JP's verdict, as he will be watching the guy train, and the rest of us will not, although personally, I'll be surprised if he is still good enough. Re the money, if it is one out and one in, we can assume that will be covered in the budget. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toomer Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Apparently been offered a 1 year contract, let's wait and see. H.P or Daddies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Master Bates Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 H.P or Daddies. In our house, HP & Daddies Sauce are two different things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Second time this week I've agreed with an Alpine comment. Just what AS does every time. As for Harte, I'd be happy to accept JP's verdict, as he will be watching the guy train, and the rest of us will not, although personally, I'll be surprised if he is still good enough. Re the money, if it is one out and one in, we can assume that will be covered in the budget. If it's true it ties in with my expectation that Euell/Skacel/Thomas will probably be off in the loan window. Don't see Harte as a total footballing type though, guess we'll see, hope he has some pace left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Charlie Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Apparently been offered a 1 year contract, let's wait and see. Apparantly according to whom? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 Apparantly according to whom? Cross Jake Thompson off of the list anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
up and away Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 If it's true it ties in with my expectation that Euell/Skacel/Thomas will probably be off in the loan window. Don't see Harte as a total footballing type though, guess we'll see, hope he has some pace left A quality never there in his prime. I thought he had taken over from Thora Herd doing the Stena chair lift adverts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long Shot Posted 8 September, 2008 Share Posted 8 September, 2008 In our house, HP & Daddies Sauce are two different things. Quite agree - give me Daddies every time. Is OK sauce still around? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Whatever happened to keeping the wage bill down? I thought we could not afford more than 25 players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 We have a problem at left back. Ian Harte is a left back with premiership and La Liga experience. He may be slow but it is his natural position. We should be giving him a chance if true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Sammy Hypia is unsettled, now there IS a man WCDAJFU. Forget the subtext of Drew Surman moving to Biscuitland, it ain't goona happen, we need him here FULL STOP. Having rid ourselves of most of the superannuated mob at last surely the last thing we need is to start recruiting the likes of Harte. Shades of Jermaine Wright all over again? At least Sammy is still a force in the Prem, even if in decline. Of course we can't afford him but better to flog the family silver for somebody of real quality than squander what we have on washed-up never were's! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Second Coming Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 We have a problem at left back. Ian Harte is a left back with premiership and La Liga experience. He may be slow but it is his natural position. We should be giving him a chance if true. What problem do we have at left back? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 What problem do we have at left back? The only player with any real first team experience there is Drew Surman. And yes, I havn't mentioned Skacel because I sincerely doubt he will ever play in our first team again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dubai_phil Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Drew hasn't done badly at left back. He's still learning the position and will improve. How many times did we see people moaning, quite correctly, about us never having a settled side that can gel and improve together. Now we have a chance of that. 4 from svensson, perry, james, surman and cork should play most games in the defence, which will form a better unit in time. So far, they looked good in spells and poor in spells, but never taken a stuffing of last season's proportions, so it's an improvement. Everyone had an off day against blackpool, is was woeful, but hopefully just one of those things. harte would be alright, but i'd rather than drew. it would be a mistake to drop holmes IMO, so drew would be out the team which is ridiculous. also, it might be more sensible to use skacel than pay out more for harte. Drew seems to have made it be known of late that he is Happy at Southampton Does not like playing at left-back That may also be a factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Apparently been offered a 1 year contract, let's wait and see. Usual source.....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glasgow_Saint Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Usual source.....? Mr aerolloyd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 9 September, 2008 Share Posted 9 September, 2008 Mr aerolloyd? The very same. Just a guess mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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