BBC predictor, where do you see us?

[Micky]

Hi,

 

Did my predictions last night and believe it not came up with the same result as you twice, but maybe my heart was ruling my head, I would just be happy to stay up......Big game tomorrow night.

 

If we finish anywhere near 15th Ill eat my hat....

[NickG]

think will try it in few games time -too many combinations!

[Rory]

I have us finishing 22nd, two points behind Blackpool.

 

23rd Barnsley

24th Charlton

 

Norwich playing Charlton on the last game of the season will decide our fate.

[Kaiser Soze]

I had Blackpool, Norwich & Charlton relegated.

[eelpie]

I've just done The Predictor and am amazed that we finish in 19th place with 48 points and the same goal difference as we have now -16!

 

Of course the heart rules the head when doing these things, but reassuring is the number of times that lowly clubs play each other.

 

If the lads keep on plugging away and manage not to ship goals, anything is possible.

 

Saints 48 points

Barnsley 47

Doncaster 46

Relegated:

Notts Forest 46

Norwich 40

Charlton 37

Edited 10 March, 2009 by eelpie

[Rod Le Shearer]

I've just done The Predictor and am amazed that we finish in 19th place with 48 points and the same goal difference as we have now -16!

 

Of course the heart rules the head when doing these things, but reassuring is the number of times that lowly clubs play each other.

 

If the lads keep on plugging away and manage not to ship goals, anything is possible.

 

Saints 48 points

Barnsley 47

Doncaster 46

Relegated:

Notts Forest 46

Norwich 40

Charlton 37

 

 

do you really think Norwic will only take 4 more points in their nine matches..??

 

the minimum number of points gained in order to avoid relegation,will be over 50 !

and that`s not only my opinion,its a FACT waiting to happen

[DG]

21 Barnsley 51

22 Norwich 47

23 Southampton 47

24 Charlton 31

[slickmick]

I've just done The Predictor and am amazed that we finish in 19th place with 48 points and the same goal difference as we have now -16!

 

Of course the heart rules the head when doing these things, but reassuring is the number of times that lowly clubs play each other.

 

If the lads keep on plugging away and manage not to ship goals, anything is possible.

 

Saints 48 points

Barnsley 47

Doncaster 46

Relegated:

Notts Forest 46

Norwich 40

Charlton 37

 

 

Doncaster to lose all their remaining games ? They have 46 points already.

[Pancake]

 

the minimum number of points gained in order to avoid relegation,will be over 50 !

and that`s not only my opinion,its a FACT waiting to happen

 

So it's an opinion then?

[saintjay77]

do you really think Norwic will only take 4 more points in their nine matches..??

 

the minimum number of points gained in order to avoid relegation,will be over 50 !

and that`s not only my opinion,its a FACT waiting to happen

 

FACT??? lol its probable but by no means fact but no doubt you will claim you told us all so if it turns out to be right.

[Saint_Jonny]

Seems most people have us finishing on 50-55 points and just staying up, I reckon thats the way it'll be if Wotte can keep the team playing the way they are.

 

Mine is..:

 

[RoswellSaint]

I have us in 18th, with only 49 points. Blackpool with 47, Norwich 43 and Charlton with 35 are relegated. We lose our last two and survive.

[eelpie]

Doncaster to lose all their remaining games ? They have 46 points already.

 

And Barnsley and Forest? So we are relegated then.

 

I can't see us realistically getting more than 48 or 49 points. But anything IS possible.

[ghq]

It would seem the heart rules the head in the majority of cases. Here's another one. Saints to gain between 14 and 17 pts. Norwich and Blackpool to gain 9 or 10. That's enough for us to stay up. Having arrived at this, I don't really care what the others do, but tell me where I can get on Saints not to finish mid table!

[Rod Le Shearer]

So it's an opinion then?

 

having trouble reading,are we..??

 

I`ve said its a fact waiting to happen...much like the fact that this day WILL be followed by night !

or would you disagree with that last statement..?

[Pancake]

having trouble reading,are we..??

 

I`ve said its a fact waiting to happen...much like the fact that this day WILL be followed by night !

or would you disagree with that last statement..?

 

So if Norwich, Charlton and Barnsley all fail to pick up more than another 9 points, that means the bottom three would look like this:

 

Barnsley 48pts

Norwich 45pts

Charlton 36pts

 

Meaning that a team COULD stay up on 49 points, which is NOT "over 50" as you have stated as "FACT"

 

Day following night is a fact, not an opinion or even a "fact waiting to happen".

 

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

[Rod Le Shearer]

So if Norwich, Charlton and Barnsley all fail to pick up more than another 9 points, that means the bottom three would look like this:

 

Barnsley 48pts

Norwich 45pts

Charlton 36pts

 

Meaning that a team COULD stay up on 49 points, which is NOT "over 50" as you have stated as "FACT"

 

Day following night is a fact, not an opinion or even a "fact waiting to happen".

 

Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

 

 

I didnt say "day following night",my uneducated friend.

I said that its a FACT that TODAY is being followed by TONIGHT,and thats a big difference.

 

If you willingly accept that statement as a fact,then you must (in order not to be a self-contradicting tool) also accept my initial statement as fact.

 

if you view the principles in one statement as valid,then you cant just change your mind for the other statement-which consists of exactly the same principles.

 

now is that an opinion,or a fact ?

[RoswellSaint]

I didnt say "day following night",my uneducated friend.

I said that its a FACT that TODAY is being followed by TONIGHT,and thats a big difference.

 

If you willingly accept that statement as a fact,then you must (in order not to be a self-contradicting tool) also accept my initial statement as fact.

 

if you view the principles in one statement as valid,then you cant just change your mind for the other statement-which consists of exactly the same principles.

 

now is that an opinion,or a fact ?

 

Granted, night following day is a fact but how is saying a team needs more than 50 points to avoid relegation a fact at this stage of the season? It is your opinion and may turn out to be a fact. I must be uneducated and, maybe, a self-contradicting tool as well.

[Rod Le Shearer]

Granted, night following day is a fact but how is saying a team needs more than 50 points to avoid relegation a fact at this stage of the season? It is your opinion and may turn out to be a fact. I must be uneducated and, maybe, a self-contradicting tool as well.

 

no,you are not a tool...just another person who missed the point

 

(which is,for the third time: saying night follows day,isnt the same as what I said-"this day will be followed by this night")

 

said in another way: we cant know if this night will follow this day,still we regard it as fact. hence my statement could also be viewed as a fact,guided by those principles.

simple,really !

[Plumstead_Saint]

no,you are not a tool...just another person who missed the point

 

(which is,for the third time: saying night follows day,isnt the same as what I said-"this day will be followed by this night")

 

said in another way: we cant know if this night will follow this day,still we regard it as fact. hence my statement could also be viewed as a fact,guided by those principles.

simple,really !

Yes it's all probabilities, but let's face it the odds on night following day are better than those of us staying up - by about 10 decimal places

According to Bishop Berkeley there are no such things as facts by your definition anyway. We can only ever know anything by our senses, and they can be demonstrated to be unreliable.

 

Right now, I see us as going down in 22nd place.

hope I'm wrong though.

[badgerx16]

Just done it and had us safe by 3 points after drawing the game at Forest. Not sure how fair I was on Plymouth though

[Under Weststand]

I did it on Sunday had us staying up by a point on 51 with a draw at Forest .

Btm 4 being

Southampton 51 pts

Forest 50 pts

Barnsley 49 pts

Charlton 41 pts

That was with a 1-1 draw predicted against Derby. So hope I'm right for the rest of it but its going to be real squeaky B*M time again folks.

[St Marco]

Just did mine and this is what i got

 

The Forest game and the week before where Forest play Blackpool will seal it i think.

But in truth the next 4 games will have decided our fate i think. I just don't know which way the results will go. I think if we fail to win 3 of our next 4 games that will be it.

[Pancake]

I`ve said its a fact waiting to happen...much like the fact that this day WILL be followed by night !

 

I said that its a FACT that TODAY is being followed by TONIGHT,

 

Seeing as you have now managed to confuse even yourself on two levels, I'll leave it with you to work out what will happen if the 3 bottom teams end up on 48 points.

[Scudamore]

Well i had yesterday down as a draw and Brum as a loss...and we still stayed up...just...

 

Everything is going to plan...excellent...

 

 

Now definitely need a win against QPR to stay on track...obviously...

[Big Ron fan]

Had us 21st going into last game, but after losing at Forest and Norwich winning at Charlton, it finished

 

18 Plymouth 54

19 Forest 53

20 Barnsley 53

21 Norwich 51

22 Blackpool 51

23 Saints 51

24 Charlton 36

 

However, the Swansea v Cardiff play-off semi-final should be a bit tasty!

[offix]

no matter how I play with it, I can only see relegation for us :-(

[gjphilsaint]

21st saints...............49

22nd barnsley..........47

23rd forest .............44

24th charlton ..........39

 

I have us down beating palace, burnley & forest

drawing with QPR & Charlton

losing to Blackpool, watford, wolves, sheff weds

 

last day job needing an away win at forest with any 2 from 3 of Saints, barnsley and forest to go down with charlton.

saints win at forest 2-1 and barnsley lose 2-0 at Plymouth

[Rod Le Shearer]

Seeing as you have now managed to confuse even yourself on two levels, I'll leave it with you to work out what will happen if the 3 bottom teams end up on 48 points.

 

those two lines you have quoted are not confusing at all,they are perfectly in alignment with each other.

how can anyone be confused by two identical statements ??

 

and in regards to your scenario: nothing happens that harms my statement,which we have agreed meets the requirements of a fact.

 

just as you agree that its a well known fact that future nights will follow present days(*1), you surely must agree that sometime (eventually) night wont follow day.

ergo: the statement you have recognized as a fact(*1),can in fact change whenever..just like my initial FACTUAL statement

 

mmmmmmm...

[RoswellSaint]

Seeing as you have now managed to confuse even yourself on two levels, I'll leave it with you to work out what will happen if the 3 bottom teams end up on 48 points.

 

I think that he is saying that if a team survives with 49 points, night will not follow day and the world will end. :confused: