alpine_saint Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 I personally hate negative drawing tactics - it hardly ever works (except against us). I would rather see us going for a win, even if on the counter-attack. A draw would be a good result though, but let's score and make them play catch-up.
stevegrant Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 I don't see any reason to change the tactics from the last three games - the results speak for themselves, against three of the supposedly better teams in this division (thinking of Ipswich's home form in the last couple of years rather than their league position). Birmingham should be there for the taking, despite having a squad full of strikers they can't score goals, their defence is slow and sluggish and they don't seem to be able to control the game in midfield either. That said, I'd still take a draw as a decent result, although chances are that would mean the gap would open up again, such is the ridiculousness of the bottom half at the moment!
JohnnyFartPants Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 They have plenty of injury worries and if they don't do the business tonight they may be feeling a loss in confidence. Keep the pressure on and go all out for 3 points.
Pancake Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Seeing as we have got 9 from the last 3 games, I would be happy to take a point away at Birmingham, for sure.
Son of Bob Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 I'd be happy to get a point but to play for one would be very wrong. We're confident, playing well and have won 3 games on the bounce so why change it?
Son of Bob Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Plus I think we all know just how badly we perform if we try to sit back and defend a lead!
surrey1saint Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 We have got to play the same way,go for a another win! COYR!!
trousers Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 my heart says stick with same tactics but my head is nudging me to say "replace McGoldrick (attacking midfielder) with Wotton (gritty defensive midfielder)...."
saintjay77 Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Id go for the same as before. Its a system that seems to be working so why change it? I guess Lallana will be back in for Morgan and we have a few defensive options on the bench so keep going as we are I say.
saintjinksie Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 I personally hate negative drawing tactics - it hardly ever works (except against us). I would rather see us going for a win, even if on the counter-attack. A draw would be a good result though, but let's score and make them play catch-up. Is there ever a game in football that you dont go out to win? Whats the point in turning up if you dont intend to win.
trousers Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Its a system that seems to be working so why change it? Why change? How about if Birmingham typically play in such a way that would negate our current 'formula'? As I say, I'm more in the "don't change" than "change" camp but I still believe Wotte shouldn't rule it out if, after doing his homework, believes a slightly different line-up would work better against a different style of opponent (not that I have a clue one way or t'other whether Brum present a different challenge to Preston, Cardiff and Ipswich - just speaking from a matter of principle).
trousers Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Is there ever a game in football that you dont go out to win? Whats the point in turning up if you dont intend to win. Mssrs Redknapp and O'Neil are probably the best people to answer that question....
.comsaint Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Brum have won only 2 of their last 10 CCC games - and tonight they have a difficult home game against Bristol City. We'll also have an extra day's 'rest' over them prior to Saturday's match. Should be a good game saturday...and if we can play like we did last night with the same attacking/win-the-game attitude - we should do well. If it aint broke - don't fix it!
Window Cleaner Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Go for the juggler vein, 3 points or nothing. jugular. but a point would be a great result all the same.
Give it to Ron Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 my heart says stick with same tactics but my head is nudging me to say "replace McGoldrick (attacking midfielder) with Wotton (gritty defensive midfielder)...." McG has been one of the best players recently and had another good game last night so why drop him? If it was you and you had played really well for 3 games and then dropped what would that do for your confidence and morale? Remember these are footballers who have more than enough money and ego's the size of the moon. Gillett is our gritty midfielder and doing that role having Wotton doing that as well will stifle us going forward and we still need wins more than draws given the fact we have wasted 3/4 of the season.
thorpie the sinner Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 They are there for the taking! We need to ride the crest of the wave as long as poss!!
trousers Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 McG has been one of the best players recently and had another good game last night so why drop him? If it was you and you had played really well for 3 games and then dropped what would that do for your confidence and morale? Remember these are footballers who have more than enough money and ego's the size of the moon. Gillett is our gritty midfielder and doing that role having Wotton doing that as well will stifle us going forward and we still need wins more than draws given the fact we have wasted 3/4 of the season. Ok. Fair point. As I say, I'm in broad agreement to keep things as they are. Just being open minded about it, that's all. Guilty as charged m'lud!
trousers Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 p.s. will still be interesting to read the reaction on here if we get tonked by Birmingham. I'll go for 4.59pm for the first "why didn't Wotte do his tactics homework on Birmingham?" post....not that I'm suggesting we're a fickle bunch of course....
Saint_clark Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 We have to go for it. Birmingham aren't in the best of form, and if we can get a goal then the fans will turn on the team sharpish.
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Wotte has created a winning formation and all those within the same have contributed to 9 pts in 3 games, would be madness to change the formula unless there is something very obvious in Brums play which demands the change, with their poor form can't think what would warrant the change. They will have had a rocket in view of recent performances and who knows how they will fair tonight, McLeish is getting stick at the minute so we simply need to pile the pressure on from the off and absolutley go for a win, not be reckless but go for a win all the same, is there any other way ?
Saint_clark Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 More importantly, do we put Lallana back in or leave Morgan as he is? I say leave Schneiderlin in because I think he looks quite good going forward.
Son of Bob Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Also, with teams at the bottom seemingly picking up 3 points every week at the moment, a single point could see us lose ground rather than consilidate.
St Landrew Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 I don't think Saints have the luxury of doing the percentages. 9 points out of 9 is suggesting the present system is ticking along rather nicely. Why change it..? Noticed Schneiderlin replaced Lallana last night in the starting XI. Unless Adam was injured, that was obviously tactical. So Wotte is tweaking the team here and there as required.
Saint_clark Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 I don't think Saints have the luxury of doing the percentages. 9 points out of 9 is suggesting the present system is ticking along rather nicely. Why change it..? Noticed Schneiderlin replaced Lallana last night in the starting XI. Unless Adam was injured, that was obviously tactical. So Wotte is tweaking the team here and there as required. Lallana was a doubt for the game yesterday due to a knock, so obviously he didn't feel he could play.
for_heaven's_Saint Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Noticed Schneiderlin replaced Lallana last night in the starting XI. Unless Adam was injured, that was obviously tactical. So Wotte is tweaking the team here and there as required. Lallana was injured, he picked up a knock against Cardiff I think. I thought Schniederlin looked fairly competent on the right yesterday, although there were a few moments when James was left a bit exposed. Saying that, Lallana isn't the most defensive of players.
St Landrew Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Lallana was a doubt for the game yesterday due to a knock, so obviously he didn't feel he could play. Lallana was injured' date=' he picked up a knock against Cardiff I think. I thought Schniederlin looked fairly competent on the right yesterday, although there were a few moments when James was left a bit exposed. Saying that, Lallana isn't the most defensive of players.[/quote'] OK, cheers.
BadgerBadger Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 I personally hate negative drawing tactics - it hardly ever works (except against us). I would rather see us going for a win, even if on the counter-attack. A draw would be a good result though, but let's score and make them play catch-up. Agreed, keep the winning mentallity and take 'em to the fking cleaners - let's do a Donny and get on a roll
eelpie Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 We have to go for the win, because we are not very good at drawing. Our game is more productive when we are positive, and now we have three in-form strikers, and a much better defence, thanks to Sizer.
saints-cris Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 If we go to get a point, we'll be 2 down by half time. Keep playing the way we are.. we've beaten 4th, 5th and 10th like this. The only bit that worries me is the pace of Sinclair and Bouazza againt our not so great defensively fullbacks. Still, no reason why we can't go there and get something on the form we're in.. 2 clean sheets in a row after all!
trousers Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Actually, looking at the negativity amongst Brum fans on this messageboard: http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=69&fid=9&sty=2 I've decided to ditch the open-minded thinking and agree that we should stick to our guns and go for it! COYR!
saintjay77 Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Why change? How about if Birmingham typically play in such a way that would negate our current 'formula'? As I say, I'm more in the "don't change" than "change" camp but I still believe Wotte shouldn't rule it out if, after doing his homework, believes a slightly different line-up would work better against a different style of opponent (not that I have a clue one way or t'other whether Brum present a different challenge to Preston, Cardiff and Ipswich - just speaking from a matter of principle). See your point and I agree. I doubt there will be any whole sale changes though as surly its wise to at least try to keep a winning team together? Can you imagin a JP moment and all the high earners get dropped in favour of a bunch of acadamy debut's? But like you say if Wotte thinks Brum's system will be negative to ours he should be looking to doing something differently to either suprise them or make the most of there weekness'
saintjay77 Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Actually, looking at the negativity amongst Brum fans on this messageboard: http://boards.footymad.net/forum.php?tno=69&fid=9&sty=2 I've decided to ditch the open-minded thinking and agree that we should stick to our guns and go for it! COYR! haha and after i just agreed with your other view too
Micky Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Sorry to sit on the fence - but we do both. Go for the win, but if we go behind - we stay in the game. Our away form has been good this season so there is no reason to panic. 3 points would be a bonus, but getting something from the game is better than getting nothing.
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