saint_stevo Posted 3 March, 2009 Posted 3 March, 2009 And the forum is still slow as f*ck during matches? Where is the value for money here eh?
Post-it note Posted 3 March, 2009 Posted 3 March, 2009 Gullible fools, forum is still as **** as before.
swannymere Posted 3 March, 2009 Posted 3 March, 2009 Very easy to be negative, how about if you don't pay a fiver and join, then you can't access the forum?
Mole Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 I was perfectly content with 5 separate usernames and 15 posts a day until the basterds cottoned on.:mad:
stevegrant Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 And the forum is still slow as f*ck during matches? Where is the value for money here eh? To be fair, mate, we'd got the performance sorted over the last couple of weeks to cope with the then-highest number of users online at a time (about 650, I think) and the server had coped well for the last few games. Last night, that maximum spiked to 793, an increase of more than 20%, and we've not had to deal with that sort of load on this server before so had no means of testing it.
Hatch Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Maybe you should go to the games? Did any of our female fans get murdered last night?
bungle Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Did any of our female fans get murdered last night? I didn't know we had that type of female fan...
AwaySaint1 Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 To be fair, mate, we'd got the performance sorted over the last couple of weeks to cope with the then-highest number of users online at a time (about 650, I think) and the server had coped well for the last few games. Last night, that maximum spiked to 793, an increase of more than 20%, and we've not had to deal with that sort of load on this server before so had no means of testing it. So whats the plan Steve ? I realise that its very easy for me to pay a fiver and then moan about connections but when it happens during a game you feel well ****ed off. Could we not move a matchday forum to a different ip for paid members only ?
stevegrant Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 So whats the plan Steve ? I realise that its very easy for me to pay a fiver and then moan about connections but when it happens during a game you feel well ****ed off. Could we not move a matchday forum to a different ip for paid members only ? As Baj has just said, we're discussing the options right now, and trust me, we're just as ****ed off as everyone else that it was unable to cope last night - it obviously causes us a great deal of embarrassment as well as being unable to access the site.
swannymere Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 As Baj has just said, we're discussing the options right now, and trust me, we're just as ****ed off as everyone else that it was unable to cope last night - it obviously causes us a great deal of embarrassment as well as being unable to access the site. No reason to be ****ed off, just charge everybody to use the forum, then you can get a server that will cope.
Post-it note Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 No reason to be ****ed off, just charge everybody to use the forum, then you can get a server that will cope. Charging for an internet forum?
saint_stevo Posted 4 March, 2009 Author Posted 4 March, 2009 could we only allow the main board to be open during matches, thus removing people from non-saints boards and possibly lowing traffic? how many of the 793 were not on the main bored
stevegrant Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 how many of the 793 were not on the main bored "Don't know" is the honest answer, although I'd be very surprised if it was more than 5-10% of that figure. I don't think I've ever seen more than about 25 people viewing any one of the other forums at any time, and those sort of levels are only likely to be found on the Lounge and Muppet Show boards. could we only allow the main board to be open during matches, thus removing people from non-saints boards and possibly lowing traffic? As both Baj and I have said above, we're looking into ways of easing the load at peak times. Hopefully we'll have come up with an answer by the weekend.
Weston Super Saint Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 No reason to be ****ed off, just charge everybody to use the forum, then you can get a server that will cope. Wasn't that 'Plan A'?
swannymere Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Wasn't that 'Plan A'? Apparently you need to repeat things until your brain bleeds, that's the only reason i can think of for the muppets on the main board:rolleyes:
hypochondriac Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 To be fair, mate, we'd got the performance sorted over the last couple of weeks to cope with the then-highest number of users online at a time (about 650, I think) and the server had coped well for the last few games. Last night, that maximum spiked to 793, an increase of more than 20%, and we've not had to deal with that sort of load on this server before so had no means of testing it. You should ask everyone to meet on the forum at the same time and start refreshing. Get 1000 and then tweak it so the server can cope with that many. It will never go over that so we should be ok. Sorted :cool:
70's Mike Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 IF A few more went to games, there would be no problem
Iowsaintsfan Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 IF A few more went to games' date=' there would be no problem[/quote'] They might start going a bit more now we have won a couple
saint_stevo Posted 4 March, 2009 Author Posted 4 March, 2009 They might start going a bit more now we have won a couple doesn't make me any richer
hamster Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Have you considered closing the corners? Tp be a bit more constructive, I felt that it eased a lot when someone poseted the link to sky's live score server. maybe therein lies a (partial0 solution). I only refreshed when I KNEW that something had happened at one of the grounds.
Calvin Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 It's just a fiver Think about the money we all waste on a daily basis.
TopGun Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 To be fair, mate, we'd got the performance sorted over the last couple of weeks to cope with the then-highest number of users online at a time (about 650, I think) and the server had coped well for the last few games. Last night, that maximum spiked to 793, an increase of more than 20%, and we've not had to deal with that sort of load on this server before so had no means of testing it. All websites can be stress tested...
Patrick Bateman Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Steve - without wanting to teach you to suck eggs (but you know me, and expect it anyway, haha) ... simple solutions are: - Close ALL other forums apart from the main forum during a match - Make the main forum log in only during a match / all the time - Remove banners/avatars at peak times / all the time to lessen the server load of bytes dished up upon refresh etc. Generally, I find the forum over functional. All I want to do is read comments about the match if I'm not there, I don't want to play games, look at people's f*cking rubbish avatars, look at bloody smilies, send PMs and so on.
Baj Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 As we've said, we're currently exploring other options.
AwaySaint1 Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Thanks Baj and Steve,very much appreciated lads.
Kadeem Hardison Posted 4 March, 2009 Posted 4 March, 2009 Thanks Baj and Steve,very much appreciated lads. There is quite a bit of negative undertone in this post. Don't hide behind subtext - come out and say what you really feel. I, for one, appreciate everything that Boj and Eddie do for us Saints fans on a daily basis. I always mention them when I say 'Grace' each evening. Triffic blokes.
StuRomseySaint Posted 5 March, 2009 Posted 5 March, 2009 It is simple. Only allow Full Members to view the main site. You don't need the adverts/banners then, which lessens the load and if people have not paid their fiver, they can't view the site. Of course I am saying this now as I have paid up. But seriously, it ain't rocket science is it?
Robsk II Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 I have to echo the people who say "it's only a fiver" - at the end of the day, I agree in principle that - if we've paid - we should be given a decent service, as was supposed to be the case. However, it's not like those who've taken the cash have done a "New Forest Xmas wonderland" on us. They're clearly trying - I'd suggest some mistakes may have been made, some things not gone to plan, some errors in prediction, etc - but at the end of the day, this is still a site that many use, that is still basically maintained and usually functional, and without it, and those that run it, many would have less Saints info and less of a footie medium generally. It never had to be for free before, and I always chose to donate to those who ran them voluntarily anyway, because I know it's a pain in the ass, even if you think it's only the odd bit of work. Clearly, I didn't approve of certain people allegedly selling out as a club PR device with trips with the club, etc - but this isn't the case here. A fiver for a whole year, well - the vast majority of us earn that in half an hour or less, and have spent much longer on the site than that. Get it on context. Yes, let's keep pushing for improvements, but whinging over things for such a sum is pretty poor.
Baj Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 Chatroom worked well.... Investigation shows the issue may not have been with the chatroom, or at least there are things i can do to optimise it...
Jillyanne Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 I have to echo the people who say "it's only a fiver" - at the end of the day, I agree in principle that - if we've paid - we should be given a decent service, as was supposed to be the case. However, it's not like those who've taken the cash have done a "New Forest Xmas wonderland" on us. They're clearly trying - I'd suggest some mistakes may have been made, some things not gone to plan, some errors in prediction, etc - but at the end of the day, this is still a site that many use, that is still basically maintained and usually functional, and without it, and those that run it, many would have less Saints info and less of a footie medium generally. It never had to be for free before, and I always chose to donate to those who ran them voluntarily anyway, because I know it's a pain in the ass, even if you think it's only the odd bit of work. Clearly, I didn't approve of certain people allegedly selling out as a club PR device with trips with the club, etc - but this isn't the case here. A fiver for a whole year, well - the vast majority of us earn that in half an hour or less, and have spent much longer on the site than that. Get it on context. Yes, let's keep pushing for improvements, but whinging over things for such a sum is pretty poor. RobskII = the voice of reason.
Durleyfos Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 The match threads are crap anyway, it's full of numpties sat listening to the radio typing "Perry passes to Size" and "Throw in to saints". What's the f*cking point?
saintwarwick Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 The match threads are crap anyway, it's full of numpties sat listening to the radio typing "Perry passes to Size" and "Throw in to saints". What's the f*cking point? Isn't that what commentators do on the radio anyway to let people know what's happening who doesn't have any other access to the game, I say this because some people don't have access to the radio on matchdays so rely on someone elses ear.
saintwarwick Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 And the forum is still slow as f*ck during matches? Where is the value for money here eh? I think 1.3pence per day is value for money.
Mole Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 I think 1.3pence per day is value for money. The whole point of the charge was because it was guarenteed to sort out the slowness issues.
Jillyanne Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 The whole point of the charge was because it was guarenteed to sort out the slowness issues. Bang wrong.
saint_stevo Posted 7 March, 2009 Author Posted 7 March, 2009 i dont care about the 5er, i waste that most days on betting or p*ssing it up the wall etc blah blah It's about the fact that something which was free, has been replaced by something which isn't and hasn't actually got any better. If you were happily doing something, and then someone charged you a 5er a year to do it promising better performance etc and it got no better, would you not ask a few questions?
hypochondriac Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 i dont care about the 5er, i waste that most days on betting or p*ssing it up the wall etc blah blah It's about the fact that something which was free, has been replaced by something which isn't and hasn't actually got any better. If you were happily doing something, and then someone charged you a 5er a year to do it promising better performance etc and it got no better, would you not ask a few questions? And when those questions/complaints are reacted to in an aggressive and dismissive manner, well how are people meant to feel?
saint_stevo Posted 7 March, 2009 Author Posted 7 March, 2009 (edited) And when those questions/complaints are reacted to in an aggressive and dismissive manner, well how are people meant to feel? Precisely. Doesn't help admin dislike me personally, Baj threatened to send me off, and generally dislikes my posting/me.And Stevegrant ended my football career. Edited 7 March, 2009 by saint_stevo to try to fit in, and make my already weak post weaker. i crave acceptance
swannymere Posted 7 March, 2009 Posted 7 March, 2009 If anybody isn't happy, fook off somewhere else - simple eh?
saint_stevo Posted 7 March, 2009 Author Posted 7 March, 2009 If anybody isn't happy, fook off somewhere else - simple eh? i intend to, but i aint getting a refund so may as well see out my year
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