trousers Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 At the ground on Saturday there was a great deal of talk of 16th March being the announcement date. 'Talk' between people who know what's going on? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Surprise surprise it's been interpretted negatively on here. I think the thread is pretty balanced in terms of interpretation to be fair. It could be negative news or it could be positive news and the reaction reflects that IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Thats just speculation ! once again you have looked at the negative, they may just like that idea LOL:o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 The team will play even bloody worse against the even bigger, even more brutal and even less skilled men in other teams in Division Three, our results will get worse, and attendances will plummet in combination with the pride that will prevent many from watching Div. 3 football. I am of the opinion that admin will follow relegation as night follows day. I am of the opinion that you haven't seen that much League One football this season, or perhaps for many seasons, because you're talking b*ll*cks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brussels Saint Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Surprise surprise it's been interpretted negatively on here. Whether on the brink of admin or a long way from it, when near relegation with dwindling attendences, it wasn't very likely we'd see anyone buying early season tickets. IMO, Lowe is hoping we'll carry on picking up results, be looking like staying up, and people will put their hatred of him aside and start to come back to games. Not necessarily what I think will happen, but I bet that's how he's thinking. Personally I think it would take staying up, not selling anyone, finding some money to strengthen and mounting a promotion push next season for people to get over Lowe being here. Which is understandable. I pretty much agree with this view, I dont interprete this news as a negative. Lowe will be pretty sure due to his popularity, the lack of certainty about which division we will play in and the fact most people have been avoiding St. Mary's this season, that he would not get many renewals. If performances improve, alongside the quality of football, so will the gates and thus more chance of people seeing the current team, getting impressed and thus considering a season ticket for next year. The fact the announcement also includes extra tickets for a fiver and kids for a quid promotions etc. tends to back this up. Getting more people through the gates now has a twofold advantage, better support=more chance of staying up & likelyhood thus of more people deciding to get a season ticket next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 This is really so funny. The club actually decide to do something decent for the fans and delay early bird offers so that fans won't be ripped off, and everyone jumps on their backs. It really does make me laugh. The phrase 'Damned if you do, damned if you don't' comes to mind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 You are right LTC, it is a very clear sign that administration is imminent; club people are scared to say the words "We will definitely be in Division III in 2009/10" so as not to empty the stadium for the last five games. At the ground on Saturday there was a great deal of talk of 16th March being the announcement date. Ah yes so many fans ITK. Some time ago there was a thread about us going into administration in February 2009........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 This is really so funny. The club actually decide to do something decent for the fans and delay early bird offers so that fans won't be ripped off, and everyone jumps on their backs. It really does make me laugh. The phrase 'Damned if you do, damned if you don't' comes to mind. I can't see anyone ("everyone") jumping on anyone's back....I just see a few thoughts in response to a question that someone was pondering. Sometimes it's difficult to tell the difference between the 'over reactors' and those accusing people of over-reacting. Sometimes.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Ah yes so many fans ITK. Some time ago there was a thread about us going into administration in February 2009........ Ah yes, that was confirmed by everyone that is currently ITK. I'm sorry, but these meetings are between the bank and Rupert Lowe, Dave Richards(?). How are they all privvy to all this information cos I want in so I can sit here and make cr@p up on a website to feel loved and popular? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 I can't see anyone ("everyone") jumping on anyone's back....I just see a few thoughts in response to a question that someone was pondering. Sometimes it's difficult to tell the difference between the 'over reactors' and those accusing people of over-reacting. Sometimes.... I think the issue is when people hear hooves, you think horses, not zebra's. I know people think Lowe's underhand etc, and trust me when I say I don't want him here (hell, I wouldn't have been on the marches if I did), but when has he actually been THAT underhand, said one thing and done the complete opposite. I know he's had his crackpot schemes, but I'm sure he hasn't gone that far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nick1579 Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 I love this assumption that opposition get more brutal, stronger and bigger as you go down the leagues. The conference must be terrifying! Let's get it straight, the premiership has physically strong players who happen to have ability too. That level of ability on average diminishes as you go down the leagues. Teams therefore often, but certainly not always, play a more physical game. Countless teams in leagues 1 and 2 have shown that actually being able to play football can be far more effective, especially when dealing with big lumbering defenders with little ability. That's not to say we'd do well, just to say that Swansea, Doncaster and many others didn't go up because they were the biggest and most brutal. Your guaranteed administration seems to rest on a continued cycle of doom at the club. Not something I'd like to get on board with really. If we go down and lose players, our costs would reduce, the wage bill would be halved. So revenue declines, but I bet costs decline more. Then it's purely down to what a manager can do with very limited resources. So many seem to crave administration, others are more obsessed about being right and others are so determined to be right they want to guess the actual date it'll happen. Fact is none of you have a clue whether we're close to it, whether it will happen this season, in the summer, next season or at all. We'll just get the usual culprits making every prediction under the sun, then when whatever event happens, someone will rejoice in being right. Well done that man, or lady. Even more laughable is that many will use any evidence against their factual opinions as further proof of what they had said. If we don't go into administration there's some big conspiracy, Lowe is waiting for a time that will harm the club more. Or he made up financial woes in the first place. I've seen people state that last one after blaming him for taking us near administration. Fine, hate the guy, protest, but keep it consistent and don't completely destroy your own credibility. Let's just enjoy the fact that when it does finally happen, or indeed doesn't, everyone on here will take great joy in the fact that they were right, and they'll be happy to explain why. Good post. I heard march 26th on the radio last night - coicides with my Dad's birthday that's why I remember it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Ah yes, that was confirmed by everyone that is currently ITK. I'm sorry, but these meetings are between the bank and Rupert Lowe, Dave Richards(?). How are they all privvy to all this information cos I want in so I can sit here and make cr@p up on a website to feel loved and popular? Perhaps they leave the meeting minutes on the train like our wonderful government? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 IF (and a big IF) we go into Admin it will be announced just before QPR game. You heard it hear first.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Perhaps they leave the meeting minutes on the train like our wonderful government? Nothing wonderful about your government, a motley crew by anyone's standards. wouldn't be surprised if half of them post ITK crap on this board actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 I'll leave WC and Trousers (wonderful juxtaposition) to their post-coital government hate-in...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 I'll leave WC and Trousers (wonderful juxtaposition) to their post-coital government hate-in...... I said they were wonderful... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 IF (and a big IF) we go into Admin it will be announced just before QPR game. You heard it hear first.... We hear lot's of things here "first".... Source? Cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Good post. I heard march 26th on the radio last night - coicides with my Dad's birthday that's why I remember it. Are they a good group, must admit not heard of them before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 IF (and a big IF) we go into Admin it will be announced just before QPR game. You heard it hear first.... We hear lot's of things here "first".... Source? Cheers I think the source is this board Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 You are right LTC, it is a very clear sign that administration is imminent; club people are scared to say the words "We will definitely be in Division III in 2009/10" so as not to empty the stadium for the last five games. At the ground on Saturday there was a great deal of talk of 16th March being the announcement date. is that if you squint a lot? It is obviously not a very clear sign at all. I was thinking recently whether early bird would be worth doing, and if I didn't, even if I had second thoughts about the season ticket towards the end of the season, then I would probably not bought one -due to thinking I could have got it cheaper earlier. This seems to make perfect sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Why was the concourse sale cancelled too....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 I think this is a lot of fuss over nothing. I don't think we are close to admin at all. As Steve said, relegation doesn't mean a big loss of revenue, except possibly dwindling gates. As a result if we drop down a division i think we'd need an entirely different pricing structure for STs, members and match day tickets to encourage as many along as poss if we're doing poorly but still be able to cash in if we do well. Delaying the decision is just common sense. I still think and hope that I'm right that Lowe has always talked down the finances to strengthen his position at the club, distance himself from the last regime if his ideas go belly up and enable him to force through his flawed policies. Not sure how tight it would be if we went down and started poorly, but i would be very surprised if we went into admin this season or at all if we stayed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sheff Saint Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 I think this is a lot of fuss over nothing. I don't think we are close to admin at all. As Steve said, relegation doesn't mean a big loss of revenue, except possibly dwindling gates. As a result if we drop down a division i think we'd need an entirely different pricing structure for STs, members and match day tickets to encourage as many along as poss if we're doing poorly but still be able to cash in if we do well. Delaying the decision is just common sense. I still think and hope that I'm right that Lowe has always talked down the finances to strengthen his position at the club, distance himself from the last regime if his ideas go belly up and enable him to force through his flawed policies. Not sure how tight it would be if we went down and started poorly, but i would be very surprised if we went into admin this season or at all if we stayed up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Ah, but what year? Every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 Ah, but what year? Every year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 We hear lot's of things here "first".... Source? Cheers lets wait and see...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 We hear lot's of things here "first".... Source? Cheers lets wait and see...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 This assumption bypasses so many factlets as to render it meaningless. For example, none of our decent players will want Third Division football, but with very little bargaining power, those not coming to the end of their contract will be gone for a song. The team will play even bloody worse against the even bigger, even more brutal and even less skilled men in other teams in Division Three, our results will get worse, and attendances will plummet in combination with the pride that will prevent many from watching Div. 3 football. I am of the opinion that admin will follow relegation as night follows day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benjii Posted 3 March, 2009 Share Posted 3 March, 2009 This assumption bypasses so many factlets as to render it meaningless. For example, none of our decent players will want Third Division football, but with very little bargaining power, those not coming to the end of their contract will be gone for a song. The team will play even bloody worse against the even bigger, even more brutal and even less skilled men in other teams in Division Three, our results will get worse, and attendances will plummet in combination with the pride that will prevent many from watching Div. 3 football. I am of the opinion that admin will follow relegation as night follows day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedWillie Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 clocks ticking guys.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 11 March, 2009 Share Posted 11 March, 2009 clocks ticking guys.... One of my clocks has kept time for 23 years. Same clock as yours? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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