Mole Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 nor football management ability And he's really proved to be a good manager throughout his career hasn't he. He's been an abject failure wherever he's been employed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 think he is doing ok here so far. As said in another thread only top clubs attract successful managers anyway -this mystical English manager you yearn for is likely to have either been sacked and so available or untried. Good and bad with both but don't make it sound like he is preventing Alex Ferguson coming in (you wouldn't want him not English sorry) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 think he is doing ok here so far. As said in another thread only top clubs attract successful managers anyway -this mystical English manager you yearn for is likely to have either been sacked and so available or untried. Good and bad with both but don't make it sound like he is preventing Alex Ferguson coming in (you wouldn't want him not English sorry) We had a decent manager before Lowe came along and removed him. And nationality doesn't come into it as i've explained. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Portvliet and Wotte were introduced as the Dutch duo ....who never worked together as a duo.....apparently.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 ....who never worked together as a duo.....apparently.... Oh no, Wotte had absolutely nothing to do with the teams performance before he was appointed head coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SP Saint Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Oh no, Wotte had absolutely nothing to do with the teams performance before he was appointed head coach. I shouldn't bother Tris - you're flogging a dead horse. When we go down, as we will, it will be because Poortvliet and Wotte were unlucky and the officials were against us. As for Lowe, not even Peter Kenyon could do better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brmbrm Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 think he is doing ok here so far. As said in another thread only top clubs attract successful managers anyway -this mystical English manager you yearn for is likely to have either been sacked and so available or untried. Good and bad with both but don't make it sound like he is preventing Alex Ferguson coming in (you wouldn't want him not English sorry) You think he's doing OK? this is the most abject season in my 45 years of saints-watching and supporting. Wotte the fukc was he doing the first 25 games of the season then? Wotte is just a bog-standard dutch (no racial overtones here) second division manager, and he is demonstrating, together with his sidekick, JP, that he moght be a nice guy but he is not in this league, physically and metaphorically. if this counts as "doing OK" you must have pretty damn low standards. Leaugye 2 here we come Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Wotte the fukc was he doing the first 25 games of the season then? As mentioned already the dynamic duo (i'm not allowed to use the "D" word) is just a myth. Wotte had absolutely no influence during the first 25 games. I'm sure the Lowedophiles will back me up on this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 if this counts as "doing OK" you must have pretty damn low standards. Spot on. 10 days ago, you might have had a point, Nick G. Today you just sound like a fool. No offence intended. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 14 March, 2009 Share Posted 14 March, 2009 Spot on. 10 days ago, you might have had a point, Nick G. Today you just sound like a fool. No offence intended. Have you seen NickG's Portvliet comments? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 think he is doing ok here so far. As said in another thread only top clubs attract successful managers anyway -this mystical English manager you yearn for is likely to have either been sacked and so available or untried. Good and bad with both but don't make it sound like he is preventing Alex Ferguson coming in (you wouldn't want him not English sorry) Third tier Leicester were able to attract a successful English manager. Do you count them as a "top club"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Third tier Leicester were able to attract a successful English manager. Do you count them as a "top club"? Now you're seriously redefining "successful" there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Now you're seriously redefining "successful" there I'm sure the Leicester fans are gutted with their league position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I'm sure the Leicester fans are gutted with their league position. Question is when will you take Pearson's **** out of your mouth....?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Question is when will you take Pearson's **** out of your mouth....?? Frank you shock me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Frank you shock me. Why? Dont get your love in obsession with Pearson thats all - hes not our manager and hes at another club - nothing to do with us any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I'm sure the Leicester fans are gutted with their league position. I'm sure they're not. Leicester did not attract a "successful" manager this summer though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 I'm sure they're not. Leicester did not attract a "successful" manager this summer though. That's funny. Does this mean Ruperts cheerleaders won't consider Wotte sucessful if he keeps us up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 That's funny. Does this mean Ruperts cheerleaders won't consider Wotte sucessful if he keeps us up? I didn't know Rupert had cheerleaders? Unless that's your stab at humour once again. In my opinion though it is quite obvious that keeping a football team up does not qualify a manager as successful. If that were the case that would make lots of very average managers successful. If he does keep us up he'll have done a grand job though...that much is obvious... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 If someone is able acclompish what they set out to do then that can be considered a success, Pearson was "successful" in avoiding the failure of relegation, I hope Wotte will too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 If someone is able acclompish what they set out to do then that can be considered a success, Pearson was "successful" in avoiding the failure of relegation, I hope Wotte will too Successful in that regard yes. Not a "successful English manager" as stated originally though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greenridge Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 2 points in the last 3 games is not exactly what the plan was although we've at least had the other results go in our favour as opposed to our winning 3 game 'run' when everyone else was winning too. Strangely I think we may be closer to the 4th from bottom position after these last 3 results than after the 3rd of our winning trio. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Successful in that regard yes. Not a "successful English manager" as stated originally though. Pearson was up and coming and his performance with the Foxes shows he's got more potential than the lower league rejects we plucked from Hollands equivilent of the blue square premier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Successful in that regard yes. Not a "successful English manager" as stated originally though. Agree, though how do we or when do we consider a manager successful ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Agree, though how do we or when do we consider a manager successful ? Hmmm... That's one to ponder... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Let's clear this up once and for all. I want Lowe Out and i want Lowes cronie (who happens to be Dutch) Out. If Lowes cronie was English i'd want him out. If Pearson was Dutch i'd want him in. This really has nothing to do with race or my imperialist outlook.got to agree you stick to your principles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Victor Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Successful in that regard yes. Not a "successful English manager" as stated originally though. Redefine "successful" in any way you like to support YOUR opinion, but please don't alter the dictionary definition to rubbish my comment. Pearson WAS successful (where was he 'unsuccessful'?), continues to be successful, and has always been English to my knowledge. If it ain't bust, don't fix it. Lowe is always saying he couldn't avoid managerial changes but this was unarguably one that is 100% down to him. (and I still don't believe WGS left because he wanted to rest his foot, or whatever) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 16 March, 2009 Share Posted 16 March, 2009 Redefine "successful" in any way you like to support YOUR opinion, but please don't alter the dictionary definition to rubbish my comment. Pearson WAS successful (where was he 'unsuccessful'?), continues to be successful, and has always been English to my knowledge. If it ain't bust, don't fix it. Lowe is always saying he couldn't avoid managerial changes but this was unarguably one that is 100% down to him. (and I still don't believe WGS left because he wanted to rest his foot, or whatever) So not being unsuccessful makes you successful? Yeah that i can't agree with. Also i quite plainly haven't attempted to alter the dictionary definition of successful anywhere here... If avoiding relegation on the last day of the season with two different clubs is what suddenly makes a successful manager though i'm obviously missing something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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