Ludwig Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Seen that before, rather like the new addition me too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 February, 2009 This is the programme i watched on tv last night if anyone missed it. An interesting documentary. http://search.bbc.co.uk/click/p/3/ds/tvradio/t/The%2520Making%2520of%2520the%2520Iron%2520Lady/id/17231391147711235762012781760000000/sp/e89db4bd089f0ff26428fd351b6c56df/-/http%253a%252f%252fwww%252ebbc%252eco%252euk%252fiplayer%252fepisode%252fb00c13bf%252fThe%255fMaking%255fof%255fthe%255fIron%255fLady%252f Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 I'm 27, so was oblivious to who was in charge in the 80s and what was happening. Yes she took some tough decisions, some bad and others good and obviously it affected many people in various ways. However I don't understand some people's sheer hatred towards her and blaming her for the mess we're in now! Surely successive governments should be equally culpable? For not picking up on what the banks were up to, looking at making mines more efficient etc? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 I'm 27, so was oblivious to who was in charge in the 80s and what was happening. Yes she took some tough decisions, some bad and others good and obviously it affected many people in various ways. However I don't understand some people's sheer hatred towards her and blaming her for the mess we're in now! Surely successive governments should be equally culpable? For not picking up on what the banks were up to, looking at making mines more efficient etc? Destroying the manufacturing base of the UK economy and incentivising profit motive by privatising ****loads. Isn't our screwed-ness a result of being unable to have product other than financial services, thus making our 'bounce-back' much slower than if we were still producing more manufactured goods. I can see why it could be blamed on Thatcher, but the successive governments should have regulated privatised industry more, banks etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 I think you could easily look back at any previous Prime Minister and find things they did wrong that have had repercussions in the future, but on the whole, under Thatcher we were a lot stronger as a country. Take the current lot. In years to come we will be blaming this credit crunch and the Middle east war on them. All in all Thatcher had the majority of us feeling better off financially at the expense of the public services, but something had to give. She inherited a shell of a country from labour and she turned it around and put money back in our pockets. Once we all got used to having money in our pockets again and people decided we needed better schools, hospitals etc then they decided to get labour back. We are fast approaching full circle again where the country is on it's knees, we have no money but the schools have never been performing better and the hospital waiting lists are right down. After the next general Election there will be a Tory government and there will be more wealth to the individual. It's how this country does things. Do I spot a touch of cut & paste here? At least self plagiarism is no crime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Destroying the manufacturing base of the UK economy and incentivising profit motive by privatising ****loads. Isn't our screwed-ness a result of being unable to have product other than financial services' date=' thus making our 'bounce-back' much slower than if we were still producing more manufactured goods. I can see why it could be blamed on Thatcher, but the successive governments should have regulated privatised industry more, banks etc.[/quote'] The thing is wouldn't the manufacturing of goods shifted to cheaper foreign alternatives anyway? Therefore still leaving us in a similar or slightly better position with the current predicament. The thing I associate with this government is spin, spin spin and not much else. The early years of Labour this time round was due to them carrying on Conservative policies. Handing over the interest rate control to the BoE has been their best decision IMO. However I'm sure in 10/15/25 years I'll be looking back (fingers crossed!) that Blair was a right royal two faced twit and Brown an incompetent PM who no ever voted for! :roll: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 February, 2009 This is the programme i watched on tv last night if anyone missed it. An interesting documentary. http://search.bbc.co.uk/click/p/3/ds/tvradio/t/The%2520Making%2520of%2520the%2520Iron%2520Lady/id/17231391147711235762012781760000000/sp/e89db4bd089f0ff26428fd351b6c56df/-/http%253a%252f%252fwww%252ebbc%252eco%252euk%252fiplayer%252fepisode%252fb00c13bf%252fThe%255fMaking%255fof%255fthe%255fIron%255fLady%252f Her comments at 47 minutes are bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
View From The Top Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 The thing is, we were able to buy coal in for a fraction of the cost that our miners could dig it up. At the end of the day we still have the coal underground and maybe one day will use it again. Oh, and we always imported most of our gas so that one isn't worth discussing. Far from it. The Tories told us, during the "dash for gas" that we'd be self sufficient in natural gas for generations to come and that it was cheap, clean energy. One generation later we import more and more of our energy requirements and the prices still go up. I would suggest you get your facts right before defending the bit ch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Far from it. The Tories told us, during the "dash for gas" that we'd be self sufficient in natural gas for generations to come and that it was cheap, clean energy. One generation later we import more and more of our energy requirements and the prices still go up. I would suggest you get your facts right before defending the bit ch. I don't ever recall the Tories saying this but if you have a link I'd be happy to see it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Good god i'm agreeing with Stanley about something!!!! Not sure what to feel right now.... I am in exactly the same boat. She was brilliant. I also am in agrement with Stanley :shock: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 It cannot be disputed that she was without doubt the greatest leader this country has had since Churchill. The sad thing is that after 10 years of a Socialist tax and waste government the good work has been undone and we're on the brink of rubbish piling up in the streets once again and we will be paying for Browns mistakes for years to come. Stanley, I have a pressing engagement, but cannot go without saying, what a load of poppy**** you are taliking. Thatcher is THE reason that a lot of the population of this country is so selfish. I still hate Thatcher, sorry, but i do. If you need this explaininng (ergo), it really is not worth my while explaining it. Hoipe we can still be cyber friends though mush? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 I hope the State Funeral that she fully deserves is some way off yet. State funeral should be only if she is buried alive IMO. Millions of people have a Thatcher fund put away over the years to celebrate when the ***** finally dies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 I'm 27, so was oblivious to who was in charge in the 80s and what was happening. Yes she took some tough decisions, some bad and others good and obviously it affected many people in various ways. However I don't understand some people's sheer hatred towards her and blaming her for the mess we're in now! Surely successive governments should be equally culpable? For not picking up on what the banks were up to, looking at making mines more efficient etc? Why not ask the millions of people affected by her war on the working class of this country? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Destroying the manufacturing base of the UK economy and incentivising profit motive by privatising ****loads. Isn't our screwed-ness a result of being unable to have product other than financial services' date=' thus making our 'bounce-back' much slower than if we were still producing more manufactured goods. I can see why it could be blamed on Thatcher, but the successive governments should have regulated privatised industry more, banks etc.[/quote'] We would NEVER have been able to compete with China and Taiwan [with their no minimum wage policies, thank you Mr B.Liar for that little gem], anyway would we? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Johnny Shearer Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Why not ask the millions of people affected by her war on the working class of this country? I don't understand the reasoning of laying the blame on just one person when clearly it was a cumulation of decisions and actions by various people. Surely you could go back further than her time and blame Labour for getting the country into such a mess before she came to power. However I guess people who directly suffered as a direct consequence of her policies do have every right to hate her and tell the world about it. Which is fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Why not ask the millions of people affected by her war on the working class of this country? How many millions of new home owners did she create with the right to buy policy? I'd hardly call that a war on the working classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 How many millions of new home owners did she create with the right to buy policy? I'd hardly call that a war on the working classes. Resulting in less social housing being available or built. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Resulting in less social housing being available or built. She warned about our country being "swamped" by immigrants from the commonwealth in 79, if she'd been in charge this past 10 years maybe she would have prevented the latest swamping of eastern european migrants. That is the reason for the shortage in social housing and you can blame your Socialist rabble for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Socialism: A nieve idea which fights against human nature in getting you to throw everything into one hat, lets the weak flourish due to the effort of the strong. Capitalism: One which embraces human nature, rewards the strong and skilled, punishes the lazy and weak. .....Pin removed, grenade thrown. Ladies and Gentlemen, discuss....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 She warned about our country being "swamped" by immigrants from the commonwealth in 79, if she'd been in charge this past 10 years maybe she would have prevented the latest swamping of eastern european migrants. That is the reason for the shortage in social housing and you can blame your Socialist rabble for that. Fook off you ignorant inbred rabid right wing racist ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Fook off you ignorant inbred rabid right wing racist ****!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Your comments do not offend me. Our ancestors built an Empire with attitudes like mine and put the great into Great Britain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
petts Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 If anyone wants a tour round one of the end results of thatchers britian i'm happy to give ya tour round stockton on tees where I'm currently at. It wouldn't be so depressing to me if it was always this way. I find it's the constnat reminders of the artisan population that was destoyed that gets me down the most. I'm serious, just walk round the town centre and imagine what it was compared to what it is now. It makes me sad when I walk though to see such culture disregarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Socialism: A nieve idea which fights against human nature in getting you to throw everything into one hat, lets the weak flourish due to the effort of the strong. Capitalism: One which embraces human nature, rewards the strong and skilled, punishes the lazy and weak. .....Pin removed, grenade thrown. Ladies and Gentlemen, discuss....... I would agree with your analysis. Socialism is for the Karen Matthews and Craig Meehan types, Capitalism is for the workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
st_louis_saint Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Haha, marxist unions. Bloody hell. I'm far from a fan of the way most unions actually conduct themselves, but people who universally slate them are just idiots. How can it be a bad concept for a body to stand up for workers? Furthermore, her having made Britain "great again" is pretty subjective, and many would disagree. I actually don't disagree with the Falklands war, but the cynical motivations within some of the decision making leaves a bitter taste. She was on her way out before it, and was instead heralded a hero because of it. As for your definition of sense as apparently being 'conservatism', phooey. I had a cracking, articulate, world-beating response to your usual tiresome drivel lined up just before I left work, Rob. But then this poxy site went down, and now, some 6 hours later, the moment has passed (as have a few bevvies). So now I'm just going to have to resort to the more generic, blunt response: Robsk, you're a c**t. Dissapointing, I know, but blame the server................or whatever............... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J Bizzle Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 if the economic downturn gets even worse to a state where the country is i dissaray, it will possibly result in either a far left or right party getting into power. I think that the BNP could sort the country out in the short term, but they would not be a long term solution. this is quite interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYCIbEpft4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 February, 2009 if the economic downturn gets even worse to a state where the country is i dissaray, it will possibly result in either a far left or right party getting into power. I think that the BNP could sort the country out in the short term, but they would not be a long term solution. this is quite interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYCIbEpft4 Yes, i've always said as much. We are currently in a recession which i believe will turn into a depression. The treaty of Versailles created such a depression in Germany in the 30's. Look to the past to see the future because human nature is a constant. Enoch Powell saw it coming all those years ago and we could well be at the start of his prophesy being fulfilled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Your comments do not offend me. Our ancestors built an Empire with attitudes like mine and put the great into Great Britain. Your racist BNP views offend the majority of decent human beings. I'm amazed you have not been banned like the rest of your fascist losers. Our ancestors actually fought wars to defeat the likes of you Nazi's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 I would agree with your analysis. Socialism is for the Karen Matthews and Craig Meehan types, Capitalism is for the workers. A bit blunt, but socialist ideas are widely open to social abuse, as can be seen by the hurrendous underclass culture that is undermining society today. The literally millions of people claiming benefits in this country are robbing the country not only of the money they claim, but they are not contributing anything on top! The actual cost of these innactive lot is immeasuarable because you cannot put a figure on the productivity they could otherwise produce. The bad legacy held by the Tories, particularly Thatcher's Tories due to the downturn and closure of manufacturing during her time in office was effected by the trade unions themselves participating in making the firms unviable along with world conditions making continued manufacture and base industries unecconomic is understandable. It is very easy to blame the one at the top for factors beyond their control, and considering the conditions we came through it bloody well. My opinion is though that the capitalist economy we have is incompatible with any kind of Labour government. Thatcher's ill considered speach regarding 'society not existing' was bloody ill advised but has serious elements of truth within it. Society is made up of individuals, unless those individuals are operating on all cylinders a society will not function. Right now, society is broken, a return to capitalist and tory ideals is a must for the nation to have a chance of fighting back. The 'Brown' method of spending out of a recession and letting this broken society take the debt on board is doomed to failure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 February, 2009 Your racist BNP views offend the majority of decent human beings. I'm amazed you have not been banned like the rest of your fascist losers. Our ancestors actually fought wars to defeat the likes of you Nazi's. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYCIbEpft4 If you watch the link above you will see that 55% of people support BNP policies. This drops only slightly to 49% when those polled are told they are BNP policies. Furthermore 85% think the BNP has a place in British politics. Andy you are the minority view. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYCIbEpft4 If you watch the link above you will see that 55% of people support BNP policies. This drops only slightly to 49% when those polled are told they are BNP policies. Furthermore 85% think the BNP has a place in British politics. Andy you are the minority view. 90% of what the BNP though is utterly fine though. The 10% which covers the more unpallatable part of their agenda however makes them totally abhorent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 27 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 27 February, 2009 90% of what the BNP though is utterly fine though. The 10% which covers the more unpallatable part of their agenda however makes them totally abhorent. Nick Griffin talks a lot of sense on this issue and states, correctly imo, that if you go into any Conservative club or Labour working mens clubs you will find racist views. He goes on to say that the policy of the BNP is to discourage racism because it's not the fault of the immigrants for being here, it's the policies of the established parties that have opened the doors. I agree 100% with him on this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 27 February, 2009 Share Posted 27 February, 2009 (edited) Nick griffin also said: "while the BNP is not racist, it must not become multi-racist either. Our fundamental determination to secure a future for white children is restated, and an area of uncertainty is addressed and a position which is both principled and politically realistic is firmly established. We don't hate anyone, especially the mixed race children who are the most tragic victims of enforced multi-racism, but that does not mean that we accept miscegenation as moral or normal. We do not and we never will"." They view differing races as being unnaceptable within the UK, that is a dreadful anachronistic and xenophobic attitude that must dissappear for any nation or society to have a chance to survive in world affairs in the future. Describing 'mixed race' children as 'victims' is shocking to me. Frankly, how they say they are 'Not Racist' when they display such attitudes is baffling. Edited 28 February, 2009 by Colinjb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 28 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Nick griffin also said: "while the BNP is not racist, it must not become multi-racist either. Our fundamental determination to secure a future for white children is restated, and an area of uncertainty is addressed and a position which is both principled and politically realistic is firmly established. We don't hate anyone, especially the mixed race children who are the most tragic victims of enforced multi-racism, but that does not mean that we accept miscegenation as moral or normal. We do not and we never will"." They view differing races as being unnaceptable within the UK, that is a dreadful anachronistic and xenophobic attitude that must dissappear for any nation or society to have a chance to survive in world affairs in the future. Describing 'mixed race' children as 'victims' is shocking to me. Frankly, how they say they are 'Not Racist' when they display such attitudes is baffling. I can see a lot of people sharing your view on this point Colin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 I can see a lot of people sharing your view on this point Colin. What is your feeling on those comments Stanley? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 28 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 28 February, 2009 What is your feeling on those comments Stanley? I think this thread has deviated enough now, let's get back to the original topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 I think this thread has deviated enough now, let's get back to the original topic. Haha, fair play. Feel free to PM them to me though, I am genuinely interested to know. Either way, God bless Maggie, in all her glory: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GzYCIbEpft4 If you watch the link above you will see that 55% of people support BNP policies. This drops only slightly to 49% when those polled are told they are BNP policies. Furthermore 85% think the BNP has a place in British politics. Andy you are the minority view. ********!!!!!!!!!! BNP have just cancelled their rally in Liverpool and have never had the bottle to have a rally in Manchester always bottling out many times over the years knowing they would be not alowed to express their rascist views here. Your biggoted views will never win, face the facts Adolf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 To my mind Maggie did a lot of good things in the early days but then got carried away and seemed to have lose her sense of reason. Certainly the ethos of 'buggar you mate I'm all right' was started on her watch and allowed to continue by dear old Tone and Gordy boy Like ESB, I agree with this. Thatcher brought a dynamism to GB in her early days, and with the Labour opposition almost unelectable, she was a star performer. But she laid waste to many people's lives, by denying them a reasonable opportunity, as simple as an honest job, because in her time there were fewer jobs than there were unemployed. And it was a concious effort by her government to make it so. It kept those in mundane work quiet and thankful of the jobs they had, and the ones who, for various reasons, couldn't fit her rigid system were completely denied. John Major was much too much in her shadow to succeed against a decent opposition, and it was only a tabloid mission and an utterly stupid pre-election night performance from leader Neil Kinnock [well, all right..!] that got him in. When Blair came along, dragging the Labour party into the electable centre [socialist..? Don't make me laugh], the Tories had no chance. Thankfully, after this receession, Thatcherism will finally be fading away. And for the good of all, the quicker the better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Legend. Those who hate her are merely p*ssed off they (or their parents) had to work at some point in their lives. Lazy c*nts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Legend. Those who hate her are merely p*ssed off they (or their parents) had to work at some point in their lives. Lazy c*nts. I'm all right attitude, fook everyone else! , your views say it all it :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Typical northerner. "World owes me a living" etc... We'd all be f*cked if we were all northern. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Typical northerner. "World owes me a living" etc... We'd all be f*cked if we were all northern. born and bred in sholing pal. World doesn't owe me a living. No harm in caring about fellow human beings, no matter where they are from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Back to your spiritual home then I guess. Progress and not being a fan of lazy c*nts isn't inconsistent with caring you know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AndyNorthernSaints Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Back to your spiritual home then I guess. Progress and not being a fan of lazy c*nts isn't inconsistent with caring you know.[/quote Not sure what you mean by by spiritual home? job opportunites maybe? when did i say i was a fan of lazy *****s? i guess you read the Daily Mail? lots of people round my way move here to work not claim benefits, whether they'e polish or southerners etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rattlehead Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Up north spiritual home, surrounded by lazy c*nts who are obviously influencing your opinions. I certainly do not read the Daily Mail btw, lol, and in fact I refuse to read that tat even though it is effectively given away for free (Metro) in London every day. We all know northerners are lazy c*nts, this is a fact. Polish, no problem, good workers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Socialism: A nieve idea which fights against human nature in getting you to throw everything into one hat, lets the weak flourish due to the effort of the strong. Capitalism: One which embraces human nature, rewards the strong and skilled, punishes the lazy and weak. pretty much sums it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Aye...I remember those days too well and will be eternally grateful to Maggie for pulling Britain back from the brink. She kicked Nanny's crutches from the weak and feeble and made them walk, and guess what?..the vast majority did....Some even ran....She gave Britain back its self respect along with a restored respect from nations around the world...The "Sick man" was cured...the "British disease" gone (yup, for those to young to know any different, those are genuine references to Britain from around the world back in the 70's) Its just sad to see that she's now a distant memory and her good work has been for so long taken for granted, that so many have drifted back to Nanny's bed pans and crutches. Everything she built and rebuilt has been ripped apart and New Nanny's spending spree has blown away the last the of Thatcher 'wealth'.....Now there's nothing left but a pile of detol, crutches, bed pans and the creep of Brussles and Sharia Law. There may never be another 'Maggie' to come along and pull y'all back from the brink this time.....and I'd say Britain needs a 'Maggie' or a 'Churchill' more than ever right now... Well said........+1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 born and bred in sholing pal. World doesn't owe me a living. No harm in caring about fellow human beings, no matter where they are from. Depends on what you think caring is. I think it means giving millions the kick up the arse they needed to get out there working and pay their way. For some, and many northerners, it means a free ride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 Well said........+1 I think we have some common ground at last! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 28 February, 2009 Share Posted 28 February, 2009 She warned about our country being "swamped" by immigrants from the commonwealth in 79, if she'd been in charge this past 10 years maybe she would have prevented the latest swamping of eastern european migrants. That is the reason for the shortage in social housing and you can blame your Socialist rabble for that. If Blair, Brown, Mandelson and New Labour are Socialist, then my knob's a bloater. The main beneficiaries of a lot of the cheap labour that has been flooding the country are your Tory farmers and property developers. To think that this economic immigration would have been any different than under the Tories is laughable. They would skin their own grannies to save a few quid. The main group worse off as a result of this immigration is the working classes who have had there wages and working conditions undermined by cheap labour. | Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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