Wotte on 5 live at 20.45

[Weston Saint]

Let's clear up the SOS interview with Wilde on the Manager subject. Wilde was asked about Pearson (he had only been employed a few weeks at the time) and Wilde said he was untried, inexperienced and not a good choice.

 

I asked what he would do and he said he would get an experienced continental manager in, that was his present thinking.

 

He did not link that with Lowe specifically. We had no idea that he was linking up with Lowe until a few days later when it was becoming obvious via telephone conversations and then I received a note from someone proposing a joining with someone as an independent Chairman. I contacted Wilde who said I knew his position on an Independent Chairman (we was against the idea) but he was talking to Lowe.

 

We pulled SOS contacts from then on not wanting to be associated with another splinter group (we would have supported them all coming back until a buyer had been found)

[Frank's cousin]

And changing your post around, I'm not sure why it is so difficlut to undserstand

 

 

 

Briefings to fans who post on the most salacious and gossipy internet is hardly keeping your plans close to your chest.

 

You have just clarified why it was such an open secret that Wilde and Lowe were not enamoured with Pearson and how they had plans to change things if they got back in.

 

 

 

Pearson was so surprised, because following his meeting (about a week before his dismissal) he actually came out of the meeting positive and convinced he could work with Lowe and indeed that he would be kept on. There was nothing from that meeting that he felt indicated in any way that he would be kicked out a week later (indeed he believed that keeping us up and the positive vibes had rendered the earlier stories about him being replaced as obsolete).

 

So throughout all the speculation during that relegation battle, Pearson maintained a dignified silence and he got on with the job in hand, despite there being some very obvious doubts about his tenure if Lowe & Wilde replced Crouch.

 

I'm not really sure what is confusing about that. Maybe you want to elaborate on the parts you're struggling with???

 

 

No one quite does these responses like you....

 

Really not sure what you are saying in part 1 - I merely stated what was said when you speculated about the SOS conversation as a point of clarity - nothing was said publically at the time because 1) we had agreed not to, 2) it was nothing concrete so would it have helped the sitaution by speculating on it? Duncan I believe was the first to hint at it on here, after being ****e off with wilde over something or other- most likely when it looked like he would jump back into bed with Lowe. (On that note I cant believe Crouch did not see that coming after he in effect left Wilde stranded on the outside)

 

Part 2) - not really sure why you find this so difficult to understand - you have said again above that Pearson was 'shocked' as he felt he had a 'positive' meeting - yet you have also claimed it was an open secret that it was unlikely he would be kept on with Lowe/wilde talking to the Europeans - all I am saying is this is a contradiction - I cant believe that Pearson would have been so naive as to not at dispel any truth in the open secret when he met with the club.... and to assume otherwise is to speculate he was deliberately misled on 23rd which would be highly unlikely and would have served what purpose?

[up and away]

But Poortvliet and Wotte were already lined up way before he even met with Pearson. In fact he was quite open about his thoughts of Pearson quite a bit before the season even ended!!!!!

 

Dead man walking and Pearson never stood a chance.

 

And besides, even if Lowe did act and think as you suggested (which he did not), then why the bllsht about money issues etc etc etc.

 

The whole appointment of Poortvliet was a done deal before he even had his feet under the table and once again the fans were bllshtted to.

 

What is this? analysis for dummies or those with the retention span of a fruit fly? We already know all of this from Barcelona Saint's posts, but suddenly this all gets forgotten and here we go again "Oh look, a sunken castle".

Just like the appointment of the two Dutchmen was a done deal years previously, one even quitting his then position he was so sure? Lowe changed his mind then, so obviously could never do it again within a 5 year span? Pearson's value only reached credible levels following the last game of the season, but you believe nothing should have been done prior in case a change was needed? brilliant! I don't know if Pearson had a chance of retaining the job, but equally neither do you. But several, including myself viewed Pearson as exactly the type of manager Lowe would be interested in. As for Poortvliet being cheaper than Pearson, are you saying this is a lie? It never has been claimed that money was the deciding issue, something Wilde has pointed out.

 

Both Lowe and Wilde would have come to this decision and I would have imagined it must have been difficult for both of them when the decision had to be made. Lowe had clearly demonstrated in the past with the possible reappointment of Hoddle, that personal feelings did not cloud the decision to be made. Equally when Lowe and Wilde returned there has been no recriminations, no vendetta but a clear and deliberate absence of such. One thing I would venture, if Crouch had combined with Lowe and Wilde and being prepared to give modest financial assistance, there is a very good chance Pearson would still be there. But as we saw previously where all Crouch had to do was give the slightest of acknowledgements towards Wilde, Lowe would never have been in a position to return.

 

You will always have the stench of bllsht in your nostrils, but that is more a question of personal hygiene than anything else.

[Ponty]

A few posters could do with reining in the insults a bit. Provocation can be very ugly. Cheers chaps.

[saintjay77]

LOL its funny how some people take a few words from the manager, throw them in the air and when they land in a heap they sort them out to say all sorts of other stuff.

 

So Wotte said he was approached to be the Acadamy Director and mentioned nothing about JP but that obviously means that JP had been offered the managers job and Lowe shouldnt have bothered interviewing Pearson. Well done Sherlock for working that out for the rest of us that cant read Code.

 

Wotte praised the fans that turn up and support the team and thinks the team need to do better to get more fans in SMS but that means he was having a go at all the protesters and thinks the fans need to grow up. Thanks again Sherlock.

 

And from his comments hidden in there somewhere is the message that tells us to start name calling and debate who should be chairman AGAIN.

 

I wonder if there is a buyer out there that not only replaces everyone on the board but also replaces Saints supporters ability to turn everything into an argument with the thought process to want World peace or something positive at least.

[aintforever]

Why are people comparing what Crouch said with what Lowe did? they are completely different.

 

Crouch said he had a manager lined up just as Poortvleit left, if Wotte proves himself like Pearson did I doubt Crouch would just come in and sack him.

 

Burley was Lowe's manager, Crouch didn't sack him out of spite as soon as he walked through the door.

[Alain Perrin]

Burley was Lowe's manager, Crouch didn't sack him out of spite as soon as he walked through the door.

 

Pity, we could have had Dodd and Gorman earlier - if only they'd been given a proper run at it....

[trousers]

He said (and I paraphrase):

 

last April Rupert asked me to join ....... April/May I think it was.

 

 

If you want to believe the bllsht about how and when Poortvliet and Wotte were appointed, when they were approached (cue Barcelona's post putting them with Van Der Waals in Southampton way before the end of the season) and why Pearson was dispensed with then you carry on in your dream world.

 

Just makes you look like a mug for listening to (and taking in) the propaganda put out by those currently running the Club.

 

BarcelonaSaint said it was van de Waals, Poortvliet and Lowe that met at the airport several months before Lowe returned. No mention of Wotte though....

 

http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showpost.php?p=179276&postcount=323

 

"This is the guy i told you all about last year that i met at Southampton airport waiting for LOWE and PORTALOO.

If you remember i said at the time this guy was in negotiations with LOWE to bring PORTALOO to SMS and that was 3/4 months before LOWE himself returned."

[aintforever]

Pity, we could have had Dodd and Gorman earlier - if only they'd been given a proper run at it....

 

What like Poortvliet was?

[saintjay77]

 

Burley was Lowe's manager, Crouch didn't sack him out of spite as soon as he walked through the door.

 

Slightly different in that to get rid of GB (who took us to the playoffs the year before) his contract would have had to have been paid up.

 

national team came and rescued us from him and paid us for the pleasure

 

Wottes contract is till the end of the season so would effectivly be in the same boat as pearson was.

 

If Crouch is back in the sumer do you really think Wotte will be here the next season or will the english manager that is waiting in the wings be here?

[aintforever]

Slightly different in that to get rid of GB (who took us to the playoffs the year before) his contract would have had to have been paid up.

 

national team came and rescued us from him and paid us for the pleasure

 

Wottes contract is till the end of the season so would effectivly be in the same boat as pearson was.

 

If Crouch is back in the sumer do you really think Wotte will be here the next season or will the english manager that is waiting in the wings be here?

 

If Wotte keeps us up he would have done a superb job so I would expect Crouch to keep him on yes. If a manager's doing a good job then it is risky losing him, suicidal in our position.

[saintjay77]

If Wotte keeps us up he would have done a superb job so I would expect Crouch to keep him on yes. If a manager's doing a good job then it is risky losing him, suicidal in our position.

 

Personally I would keep him if he keeps us up. Even on another short term contract just to give an out should he faulter. Would have done the same with Pearon.

 

But we are talking about Lowe and Crouch here. IMO they are as bad as each other but for different reasons and Crouch would want his "English Manager" in place ASAP should he return.

[Saint_clark]

Still having a go at fans then.

He needs to shut up, seriously. He could alienate the players with his constant uneducated insults at the fans.

[saintjay77]

Still having a go at fans then.

He needs to shut up, seriously. He could alienate the players with his constant uneducated insults at the fans.

 

At what point did he have a go at fans?

[Saint_clark]

At what point did he have a go at fans?

 

True fans were inside the stadium with a loud voice? So apparently those of us that have been protesting are not true fans. :roll:

[Greenridge]

Irrespective of whatever side of the lowe coin you are on I see little point in not giving Wotte every chance and all the support we can muster till the end of the season. You can define 'support' in which ever way applies to you.

 

From a personal point of view I'd rather him only comment on the team, the opposition and on-the-pitch matters. Leave the politics to others.

[JohnnyFartPants]

Irrespective of whatever side of the lowe coin you are on I see little point in not giving Wotte every chance and all the support we can muster till the end of the season. You can define 'support' in which ever way applies to you.

 

From a personal point of view I'd rather him only comment on the team, the opposition and on-the-pitch matters. Leave the politics to others.

 

I couldn't agree more. I can't see the point in giving him abuse for the sake of giving him abuse, only to possibly retract it later to avoid sounding stupid.

[saintjay77]

True fans were inside the stadium with a loud voice? So apparently those of us that have been protesting are not true fans. :roll:

 

" There is a small minority of fans who protest outside the stadium, we don't see that. The fans are 'fine' inside the stadium, the true fans are the ones that are inside the stadium and are loud, which was the case on Saturday '

 

When asked if the protest is having an effect on the players.

 

I thought most of the protesters were also going in to support the team?

 

So the protest is not having an effect on the team - good from the protesters side and from Wottes side right?

 

The "True Fans" are the ones that dispite not being happy at our overall situation, still choose to come in and give support to the team - And your saying that is bad and he should shut up?

 

He goes on to say how the team need to do better to give the fans that are staying away something worth coming back to watch.

 

yet again it looks like someone is re-arranging the words to fit in with what they think rather than what is actually being said.

[saintjay77]

Irrespective of whatever side of the lowe coin you are on I see little point in not giving Wotte every chance and all the support we can muster till the end of the season. You can define 'support' in which ever way applies to you.

 

From a personal point of view I'd rather him only comment on the team, the opposition and on-the-pitch matters. Leave the politics to others.

 

I agree, he needs to stay out of the politics but he only responded to a question on weather the protests are effecting the team or not. If he had said "no comment" there would have been an uproar at how he has been silences by a NDR or something.

 

IMO he said the right things this time and still people jump up and down like he is the spawn of the anti christ.

[NickG]

Still having a go at fans then.

He needs to shut up, seriously. He could alienate the players with his constant uneducated insults at the fans.

 

did you listen? can you read?

 

HE DID NOT CRITICISE FANS AT ALL - IN FACT HE PRAISED THEM

 

or are you deliberately mischief making?

[aintforever]

Personally I would keep him if he keeps us up. Even on another short term contract just to give an out should he faulter. Would have done the same with Pearon.

 

But we are talking about Lowe and Crouch here. IMO they are as bad as each other but for different reasons and Crouch would want his "English Manager" in place ASAP should he return.

 

I don't think he would, he would see the logic in keeping a good manager on IMO.

[saintjay77]

I don't think he would, he would see the logic in keeping a good manager on IMO.

 

Its all about opinions and of course we will all have different ones at times. Tis what makes it all more interesting.

 

A few ifs here but anyway, If Wotte keeps us up and If Crouch comes back then I hope your right and he gives him a chance. If nothing else it will show Lowe up to be a numpty for not at least letting Pearson have a fair shot at moving us forward.

 

Cant see it happening though

[Greenridge]

I agree, he needs to stay out of the politics but he only responded to a question on weather the protests are effecting the team or not. If he had said "no comment" there would have been an uproar at how he has been silences by a NDR or something.

 

IMO he said the right things this time and still people jump up and down like he is the spawn of the anti christ.

 

I didn't hear the interview in question and was not referring directly to what was or wasn't said last night but more to the other articles on the OS and in the Echo where he does seem to get drawn into commenting on these matters.

[saintjay77]

I didn't hear the interview in question and was not referring directly to what was or wasn't said last night but more to the other articles on the OS and in the Echo where he does seem to get drawn into commenting on these matters.

 

I wasnt having a pop at you just using your quote to air my view. Some of the things he has said have obviously got peoples backs up and I agreed with you that he needs to stay out of those areas.

 

Im not sure if some of what he has said has been lost in translation or if he was genuinly having a go at sections of fans. It seems liek the english press find it easy to set him up with a few choice questions and feed for a week off his quotes.

 

Can you imagine WGS answers to some of the questions Wotte has had?

 

Had Wotte not been Lowes choice I just think be would have been cut a little more slack than he is getting now so I dont mind arguing his case when a few people start having kittens about what they thought he said.

[NickG]

I didn't hear the interview in question and was not referring directly to what was or wasn't said last night but more to the other articles on the OS and in the Echo where he does seem to get drawn into commenting on these matters.

 

to be fair and put that into perspective, it is now apparent that his comment about a kid organising a protest or whatever it was, was after the echo ran the story with the picture of the lad saying the protest was against lowe due to his silly decisions like appointing Wotte!

 

Think he is justified in not thinking much of the protest.

[saintjay77]

R5 - "How is the feeling around the club on a day-to-day basis Gordon?"

WGS - "It feels like a week day during the week and a weekend day at the weekend"

 

R5 - "are the fans supportive within St Marys?"

WGS - "no they are supportive on route to SMS and they sing on there way home but while they are here they sit and do knitting"

 

LOL could be quite funny trying to answer reporters questions in the style of WGS

[Greenridge]

I wasnt having a pop at you ..

 

No I didn't think you were and I agree with what you're saying. Nick G has pointed out similar in his post following on from yours however I wasn't thinking specifically about his latest comments regarding the 'Connor' rally but we have seen similar from him a couple of weeks ago. Again I don't want to make an issue of something that isn't but if he just focusses on footy then that's all we can ask for in our hour of need.

[SaintDonkey]

As ever I love the people getting all indignent about Lowe having someone lined up to replace Pearson. Let's face it if not for Leicester self destructing at home against Wednesday and then limpy drawing at an already promoted Stoke, Pearson would be reviled as the manager who took us down to the third tier rather than hailed as some sort of footballing god.

 

Of course Lowe was looking at possible replacements before the end of the season!

[krissyboy31]

As ever I love the people getting all indignent about Lowe having someone lined up to replace Pearson. Let's face it if not for Leicester self destructing at home against Wednesday and then limpy drawing at an already promoted Stoke, Pearson would be reviled as the manager who took us down to the third tier rather than hailed as some sort of footballing god.

 

Of course Lowe was looking at possible replacements before the end of the season!

 

Why would he? We would have finished 4th from bottom in stead of 5th.

[SaintDonkey]

Why would he? We would have finished 4th from bottom in stead of 5th.

 

Good point - need to throw Coventry's last day suicide bid at Charlton into the mix

 

Fact is if Leicester had beaten Stoke and Coventry had drawn at Charlton we would have been relegated on the last day.

 

Pearson was that close to sending us down.

Edited 24 February, 2009 by SaintDonkey

[St Paul]

Good point - need to throw Coventry's last day suicide bid at Charlton into the mix

 

Fact is if Leicester had beaten Stoke and Coventry had drawn at Charlton we would have been relegated on the last day.

 

Pearson was that close to sending us down.

 

And if Blackpool had lost one more game, they'd have gone down, oh and Barnsley, Norwich and Sheff Weds.

Fact is Pearson kept us up, and is now doing a pretty good job at Leicester. Whereas his replacement is?

[saintjay77]

And if Blackpool had lost one more game, they'd have gone down, oh and Barnsley, Norwich and Sheff Weds.

Fact is Pearson kept us up, and is now doing a pretty good job at Leicester. Whereas his replacement is?

 

His replacement is gone and we are now on his replacements replacement

[SaintDonkey]

And if Blackpool had lost one more game, they'd have gone down, oh and Barnsley, Norwich and Sheff Weds.

Fact is Pearson kept us up, and is now doing a pretty good job at Leicester. Whereas his replacement is?

 

Well done for entirely missing the point!

 

Let me say it again slowly:

 

Pearson NEARLY took us down.

If he had done a fair proportion of fans would have wanted him out.

His contract was up at the end of the season.

Therefore it's not entirely unreasonable to have been looking at alternatives.

 

I personally think it was a mistake not to have retained him, but that's not the point I was making.

[um pahars]

I'm really surprised you're still struggling with this one Frank.

 

Really not sure what you are saying in part 1 - I merely stated what was said when you speculated about the SOS conversation as a point of clarity - nothing was said publically at the time because 1) we had agreed not to' date=' 2) it was nothing concrete so would it have helped the sitaution by speculating on it?[/quote']

 

The reason for including the fact that the SOS group were aware of Wilde's (and I presume Lowe & Cowen's) feelings about Pearson was to demonstrate that it was a fairly open secret that (a) they didn't approve of the appointment, and more importantly, (b) they were looking to being their own man/men in.

 

Do you think for one minute that you 5 or 6 were the only people privy to such revelations???

 

If you 5 or 6 were being briefed about this, then you can bet your bottom dollar that probably 10 times that amount were also privy to such information.

 

I had heard from a number of sources, in and out of the Club, close to Lowe and also in the media, that they were very much considering relieving Pearson of his duties and were actively engaged in seeking a replacement well before they got their feet under the table (even one of my staunchest opponents on here at the time, C B Fry, had the good grace to offer an apology when it actually came to fruition).

 

So just as you and a few others knew that there were plans afoot, you can rest assured that many at the Club, including Pearson, the coaching staff and the players were also aware of the potential moves afoot.

 

Part 2) - not really sure why you find this so difficult to understand - you have said again above that Pearson was 'shocked' as he felt he had a 'positive' meeting - yet you have also claimed it was an open secret that it was unlikely he would be kept on with Lowe/wilde talking to the Europeans - all I am saying is this is a contradiction - I cant believe that Pearson would have been so naive as to not at dispel any truth in the open secret when he met with the club.... and to assume otherwise is to speculate he was deliberately misled on 23rd which would be highly unlikely and would have served what purpose?

 

I struggle to believe that you don't realise this was/is a fluid situation and how things ebbed and flowed over time.

 

Pearson had to prepare for the relegation battle knowing full well that "if" (more like "when" actually) Lowe and Wilde got back in, then his job would be under threat. As I have mentioned above, it was well known that Wilde and Lowe weren't overly enamoured with him and that they had indicated they might replace him.

 

During this period he kept his nose clean and got on with the job in hand despite this obvious distraction hanging over his head.

 

Come the end of the season, which was a 'relative' success, many, including Pearson, hoped he had done enough to win round the doubters, Lowe and Wilde key amongst them.

 

He therefore went into the meeting with Lowe upbeat, hoping that despite knowing there had been moves afoot to replace him, he had done enough to allow him to honour the rest of his contract.

 

I understand the meeting itself was described as positive, and once again despite knowing of the threat to replace him he left upbeat believing he had allayed that threat with relative success on the pitch and a positive meeting with Lowe. I am led to believe that he left to go to Malta thinking he had every chance of coming back to the job.

 

He was therefore surprised to learn he was out of a job when his agent rang him to tell him the story had broken on the net that Saints had appointed Poortvliet.

[Lord Duckhunter]

It is quite common in Football for an incoming regime to want their own man. In fact keeping the present Manager is sometimes a distraction and a bad thing, because he never really has the backing of the new people, and speculation about other Managers runs riot. I can understand Lowe wanting his own man, although in hindsight it looks like a major error.What gets to me is the "we couldn't afford him" line. Instead of Lowe thanking him for his work, but saying he wanted someone else to move the Club forward. He spun us this money line, when it was obvious he was not going to keep him on.

 

Had Glenn Hoddle been willing to do the job for Pearson's wages, Lowe would have appointed him. Had Pearson not been so popular with the majority of the support, Lowe would have just got rid, without the "money" line. Personally I think Lowe bottled it and tried to bring his new regime in without upsetting the fans too much, the end result was he looked shifty and underhand and it was not a very good start to his return.

[um pahars]

He said and I don't paraphrase!

 

I did paraphrase as it seemed someone wanted a summary!

 

So which is it Nick?

 

Do you paraphrase or not?

 

(I actually don't give a fck, but thought I would just highlight your hypocrisy and give you a clue as to why things may turn into a battle with you!)

 

Why is everything a battle on here?

 

Things might appear to be a battle to you, but when you go in feet first and have a pop at others over nothing, then you probably need to expect some stick back. Maybe if you weren't so patronising then it might go slightly more smoothly.

[NickG]

So which is it Nick?

 

Do you paraphrase or not?

 

(I actually don't give a fck, but thought I would just highlight your hypocrisy and give you a clue as to why things may turn into a battle with you!)

 

 

 

Things might appear to be a battle to you, but when you go in feet first and have a pop at others over nothing, then you probably need to expect some stick back. Maybe if you weren't so patronising then it might go slightly more smoothly.

 

...

[NickG]

As you clearly want a battle so much you are basically lying by editing posts together i will help you remember

 

He said (and I paraphrase):

 

last April Rupert asked me to join ....... April/May I think it was.

 

 

If you want to believe the bllsht about how and when Poortvliet and Wotte were appointed, when they were approached (cue Barcelona's post putting them with Van Der Waals in Southampton way before the end of the season) and why Pearson was dispensed with then you carry on in your dream world.

 

Just makes you look like a mug for listening to (and taking in) the propaganda put out by those currently running the Club.

 

this is you needlessly starting baiting as no-one was talking about that.

 

He said and I don't paraphrase!

 

"Last April, last year April.., May I think it was, that Rupert asked me to join Southampton after all as academy director." hth.

 

that is quotes.

 

no real new insight. Only few mins, said right things about being confident of staying up, its down to them to play better to attract fans, was at reserve game last night but is now concentrating totally on first team.

 

The bit about fans was when directly asked whether he can insulate the players from the protest he said it was outside of the stadium so they don't see it and a minority of fans, but the fans they do see within the stadium have been excellent, support Saturday was great.

 

Said about being approached when GB got the job but then carried on his career until approached again to be academy director.

 

Was asked about dutch football - about it really.

 

Not particularly interesting or any new news but quite eloquent

 

that was paraphrased.

 

You've just paraphrased what he said there, and there are a couple of lines where your recollection is different to mine.

 

I'm sure he said he is no longer involved in the Academy and is now overseeing the reserves and the first team only.

 

He also never used the word excellent with regards the fans support.

 

HTH

 

as you were aware.

 

Grow up.

[um pahars]

As you clearly want a battle

 

Nick, forgive me, but I don't want a battle, just find it slightly hypocritical that you're happy to wade in and wave your dck about a bit, but then get all prissy when someone has a shot across your bows.

 

You clearly said you don't paraphrase, but then admit you had:rolleyes::smt048:rolleyes::smt048

 

In the grand scheme of things, it's fck all, but the fact that your claim you don't paraphrase was followed by an exclamation mark, a hth and the fact it was a sharp retort just makes your hypocrisy all the more funny.

 

But of course, why does everything have to be a battle;)

[saintjay77]

Nick, forgive me, but I don't want a battle, just find it slightly hypocritical that you're happy to wade in and wave your dck about a bit, but then get all prissy when someone has a shot across your bows.

 

You clearly said you don't paraphrase, but then admit you had:rolleyes::smt048:rolleyes::smt048

 

In the grand scheme of things, it's fck all, but the fact that your claim you don't paraphrase was followed by an exclamation mark, a hth and the fact it was a sharp retort just makes your hypocrisy all the more funny.

 

But of course, why does everything have to be a battle;)

 

To be fair I took it as he was paraphrasing in one post and said so and in another he wasnt so tongue in cheek said so.

 

dont know what the pair of you are arguing about lol

[um pahars]

To be fair I took it as he was paraphrasing in one post and said so and in another he wasnt so tongue in cheek said so.

 

Then maybe he should have used the term "I wasn't" or "I didn't" as opposed to "I don't" which is somewhat permanent and definite;)

 

dont know what the pair of you are arguing about lol

 

Nor do I, but NickG doesn't sound too happy;)

[saintjay77]

Then maybe he should have used the term "I wasn't" or "I didn't" as opposed to "I don't" which is somewhat permanent and definite;)

 

 

 

Nor do I, but NickG doesn't sound too happy;)

 

"I am at the moment but might not later just incase anyone is interested"

 

or

 

"I am not right now but if anyone wants me to then i will later"

 

TBF I got his option. lol

[NickG]

Nick, forgive me, but I don't want a battle, just find it slightly hypocritical that you're happy to wade in and wave your dck about a bit, but then get all prissy when someone has a shot across your bows.

 

You clearly said you don't paraphrase, but then admit you had:rolleyes::smt048:rolleyes::smt048

 

In the grand scheme of things, it's fck all, but the fact that your claim you don't paraphrase was followed by an exclamation mark, a hth and the fact it was a sharp retort just makes your hypocrisy all the more funny.

 

But of course, why does everything have to be a battle;)

 

I don't want this to become one of these that bore everyone else with tit for tat.

 

The first was clearly a direct quote to clarify a point.

The second was a summary to update someone who missed it.

I never said I always quote as thats silly.

 

I do try, and sometimes fail, to stick to my opinions backed up by reason (which I appreciate others disagree with) and not get personal

[Alain Perrin]

Then maybe he should have used the term "I wasn't" or "I didn't" as opposed to "I don't" which is somewhat permanent and definite;)

 

 

 

Nor do I, but NickG doesn't sound too happy;)

 

 

Repeat after me....

 

This is a football forum, not a semantics forum

This is a football forum, not a semantics forum

This is a football forum, not a semantics forum

 

You know what NickG meant, anything else is just baiting.

[Ponty]

Unbelievable.

[saintjay77]

unbelievable.

 

Lol EMF?

[um pahars]

Repeat after me....

 

This is a football forum, not a semantics forum

This is a football forum, not a semantics forum

This is a football forum, not a semantics forum

 

You know what NickG meant, anything else is just baiting.

 

Did you miss the winks;)

 

And maybe your semantics jibe would have found a better home when NickG first got on his high horse regarding not doing paraphrasing. Your swift intervention then could have stopped all this nonsense.

 

Anyway, thanks for your input, and feel free to roam the board offering your advice.

[NickG]

To be fair I took it as he was paraphrasing in one post and said so and in another he wasnt so tongue in cheek said so.

 

dont know what the pair of you are arguing about lol

 

"I am at the moment but might not later just incase anyone is interested"

 

or

 

"I am not right now but if anyone wants me to then i will later"

 

TBF I got his option. lol

 

Repeat after me....

 

This is a football forum, not a semantics forum

This is a football forum, not a semantics forum

This is a football forum, not a semantics forum

 

You know what NickG meant, anything else is just baiting.

thanks gents, although its hurting now, in time I will be ok. Thanks for the support in this difficult time following this needless assault on me.

[um pahars]

thanks gents, although its hurting now, in time I will be ok. Thanks for the support in this difficult time following this needless assault on me.

 

cringe :smt117:smt116:-\":smt100

[krissyboy31]

Unbelievable.

Lol EMF?

 

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