Mary Corbett felt "threatened" and "physically intimidated" by Lowe

[SaintRobbie]

To be fair to MC, she must have overcome her intimidation from Lowe to have called him a liar over NP's non-appointment and also by saying that she believed Lowe being at the club was turning off badly needed investment.

 

That's a good thing.

 

Also, Wiseman too has come out of the shadows (let along Lawrie Mac and Crouch-at the AGM only sadly).

 

I think we'll see more... Lowe's intimidation bluff has started to be called by those who know him better than any of us.

 

So I dont think we should worry about Mary, we should tell the world to come and join in as Lowe's on the ropes.

Edited 23 February, 2009 by SaintRobbie

[SaintRobbie]

To be fair to MC, she must have overcome her intimidation from Lowe to have called him a liar over NP's non-appointment and also by saying that she believed Lowe being at the club was turning off badly needed investment.

 

That's a good thing.

 

Also, Wiseman too has come out of the shadows (let along Lawrie Mac and Crouch-at the AGM only sadly).

 

I think we'll see more... Lowe's intimidation bluff has started to be called by those who know him better than any of us.

 

So I dont think we should worry about Mary, we should tell the world to come and join in as Lowe's on the ropes.

Edited 23 February, 2009 by SaintRobbie

[alpine_saint]

Jonah seems quite capable at stirring the muddy water in defence of his megolomaniac chum Rupert, what benefit do you get out of it

 

It pays the rent.

[alpine_saint]

Jonah seems quite capable at stirring the muddy water in defence of his megolomaniac chum Rupert, what benefit do you get out of it

 

It pays the rent.

[SaintRobbie]

I don't like Lowe, but I hate this attack by insinuation. It's an unsubstantiated hint at something very unpleasant, that was only felt by somebody else. Then it's just left hanging and can't be elaborated on even though it might be nothing. It's all a bit underhand.

 

No smoke without fire?

[SaintRobbie]

I don't like Lowe, but I hate this attack by insinuation. It's an unsubstantiated hint at something very unpleasant, that was only felt by somebody else. Then it's just left hanging and can't be elaborated on even though it might be nothing. It's all a bit underhand.

 

No smoke without fire?

[Saint Richard of Woolston]

I can imagine Mary Corbett being intellectually & morally intimidated by Lowe - after all, she is just free-riding off of her father's shares & lifetime's work for the club whilst Lowe, love him or loathe him, has put some time in at the coal face and made some real decisions (for right or wrong), rather than abdicate his responsibility when a Director unlike, er, Mary Corbett for example.

 

But PHYSICALLY intimidated? And in public?? I don't believe it for one second. I believe she said it but do not believe it is true.

 

Further rantings from a bitter, twisted and incompetent person in my opinion. And these comments should be treated as such.

[Saint Richard of Woolston]

I can imagine Mary Corbett being intellectually & morally intimidated by Lowe - after all, she is just free-riding off of her father's shares & lifetime's work for the club whilst Lowe, love him or loathe him, has put some time in at the coal face and made some real decisions (for right or wrong), rather than abdicate his responsibility when a Director unlike, er, Mary Corbett for example.

 

But PHYSICALLY intimidated? And in public?? I don't believe it for one second. I believe she said it but do not believe it is true.

 

Further rantings from a bitter, twisted and incompetent person in my opinion. And these comments should be treated as such.

[SaintRobbie]

I can imagine Mary Corbett being intellectually & morally intimidated by Lowe - after all, she is just free-riding off of her father's shares & lifetime's work for the club whilst Lowe, love him or loathe him, has put some time in at the coal face and made some real decisions (for right or wrong), rather than abdicate his responsibility when a Director unlike, er, Mary Corbett for example.

 

But PHYSICALLY intimidated? And in public?? I don't believe it for one second. I believe she said it but do not believe it is true.

 

Further rantings from a bitter, twisted and incompetent person in my opinion. And these comments should be treated as such.

 

As I said earlier... no smoke without fire?

[SaintRobbie]

I can imagine Mary Corbett being intellectually & morally intimidated by Lowe - after all, she is just free-riding off of her father's shares & lifetime's work for the club whilst Lowe, love him or loathe him, has put some time in at the coal face and made some real decisions (for right or wrong), rather than abdicate his responsibility when a Director unlike, er, Mary Corbett for example.

 

But PHYSICALLY intimidated? And in public?? I don't believe it for one second. I believe she said it but do not believe it is true.

 

Further rantings from a bitter, twisted and incompetent person in my opinion. And these comments should be treated as such.

 

As I said earlier... no smoke without fire?

[jonah]

Ron, trousers - I think the relevance here is that Duncan is a well-known figure with regard to Saints, the club historian with links to a lot of the major shareholders and hence when he makes a statement about 2 of the major shareholders then that comment holds gravitas. The implications of his post are pretty explicit and I think he should clarify from whence they came. It's just a simple question, I think it's pretty clear the answer could fall either pro or anti Lowe so it's in everyone's interests to have the matter cleared up right?

[jonah]

Ron, trousers - I think the relevance here is that Duncan is a well-known figure with regard to Saints, the club historian with links to a lot of the major shareholders and hence when he makes a statement about 2 of the major shareholders then that comment holds gravitas. The implications of his post are pretty explicit and I think he should clarify from whence they came. It's just a simple question, I think it's pretty clear the answer could fall either pro or anti Lowe so it's in everyone's interests to have the matter cleared up right?

[OldNick]

To be fair to MC, she must have overcome her intimidation from Lowe to have called him a liar over NP's non-appointment and also by saying that she believed Lowe being at the club was turning off badly needed investment.

 

That's a good thing.

 

Also, Wiseman too has come out of the shadows (let along Lawrie Mac and Crouch-at the AGM only sadly).

 

I think we'll see more... Lowe's intimidation bluff has started to be called by those who know him better than any of us.

 

So I dont think we should worry about Mary, we should tell the world to come and join in as Lowe's on the ropes.

I dont see he's on the ropes at present.

Look at it this way.

Saturday the march was attended by less people. The message has been diluted by disagreements how it should be run.The media were not interested, a major mistake was made by sitting in a public highway as it inconvienienced people who may have sympathised but then will be upset. Some fans would have been uncomfortable by the Wotte out stuff. We won and the new manager installed on saturday anyway seems to have given the club new belief.

Divide and conquer has always worked in the past and from saturday that has been the case.

Until we get a leader of the fans who can embrace all to act it will always be Mickey Mouse.

[OldNick]

To be fair to MC, she must have overcome her intimidation from Lowe to have called him a liar over NP's non-appointment and also by saying that she believed Lowe being at the club was turning off badly needed investment.

 

That's a good thing.

 

Also, Wiseman too has come out of the shadows (let along Lawrie Mac and Crouch-at the AGM only sadly).

 

I think we'll see more... Lowe's intimidation bluff has started to be called by those who know him better than any of us.

 

So I dont think we should worry about Mary, we should tell the world to come and join in as Lowe's on the ropes.

I dont see he's on the ropes at present.

Look at it this way.

Saturday the march was attended by less people. The message has been diluted by disagreements how it should be run.The media were not interested, a major mistake was made by sitting in a public highway as it inconvienienced people who may have sympathised but then will be upset. Some fans would have been uncomfortable by the Wotte out stuff. We won and the new manager installed on saturday anyway seems to have given the club new belief.

Divide and conquer has always worked in the past and from saturday that has been the case.

Until we get a leader of the fans who can embrace all to act it will always be Mickey Mouse.

[trousers]

Ron, trousers - I think the relevance here is that Duncan is a well-known figure with regard to Saints, the club historian with links to a lot of the major shareholders and hence when he makes a statement about 2 of the major shareholders then that comment holds gravitas. The implications of his post are pretty explicit and I think he should clarify from whence they came. It's just a simple question, I think it's pretty clear the answer could fall either pro or anti Lowe so it's in everyone's interests to have the matter cleared up right?

 

Fair point, although I think an alternative valid observation would be that if the majority of people on here were clambering for further clarification then the original thread, where it was originally raised & discussed, would still be 'hot'. The fact that it's naturally faded away would tend to suggest that most people were happy to let it lie?

[trousers]

Ron, trousers - I think the relevance here is that Duncan is a well-known figure with regard to Saints, the club historian with links to a lot of the major shareholders and hence when he makes a statement about 2 of the major shareholders then that comment holds gravitas. The implications of his post are pretty explicit and I think he should clarify from whence they came. It's just a simple question, I think it's pretty clear the answer could fall either pro or anti Lowe so it's in everyone's interests to have the matter cleared up right?

 

Fair point, although I think an alternative valid observation would be that if the majority of people on here were clambering for further clarification then the original thread, where it was originally raised & discussed, would still be 'hot'. The fact that it's naturally faded away would tend to suggest that most people were happy to let it lie?

[Gemmel]

Ron, trousers - I think the relevance here is that Duncan is a well-known figure with regard to Saints, the club historian with links to a lot of the major shareholders and hence when he makes a statement about 2 of the major shareholders then that comment holds gravitas. The implications of his post are pretty explicit and I think he should clarify from whence they came. It's just a simple question, I think it's pretty clear the answer could fall either pro or anti Lowe so it's in everyone's interests to have the matter cleared up right?

 

jonah, you are just trouble making and I hope all this comes back to bite you on your arse.

 

I would imagine that this is nothing more than lowe going into a rant, with a bit of shouting and swearing and if directed at MC, then can understand why she would have "FELT" intimidated.

 

I question your motives for ****ting stiring more than Duncans for mentioning this.

[Gemmel]

Ron, trousers - I think the relevance here is that Duncan is a well-known figure with regard to Saints, the club historian with links to a lot of the major shareholders and hence when he makes a statement about 2 of the major shareholders then that comment holds gravitas. The implications of his post are pretty explicit and I think he should clarify from whence they came. It's just a simple question, I think it's pretty clear the answer could fall either pro or anti Lowe so it's in everyone's interests to have the matter cleared up right?

 

jonah, you are just trouble making and I hope all this comes back to bite you on your arse.

 

I would imagine that this is nothing more than lowe going into a rant, with a bit of shouting and swearing and if directed at MC, then can understand why she would have "FELT" intimidated.

 

I question your motives for ****ting stiring more than Duncans for mentioning this.

[OldNick]

I can imagine Mary Corbett being intellectually & morally intimidated by Lowe - after all, she is just free-riding off of her father's shares & lifetime's work for the club whilst Lowe, love him or loathe him, has put some time in at the coal face and made some real decisions (for right or wrong), rather than abdicate his responsibility when a Director unlike, er, Mary Corbett for example.

 

But PHYSICALLY intimidated? And in public?? I don't believe it for one second. I believe she said it but do not believe it is true.

 

Further rantings from a bitter, twisted and incompetent person in my opinion. And these comments should be treated as such.

Whilst i understand where you come from on this I do think that MC is doing things with the best intentions, but perhaps a little misguided who has her ear and the advice she may be taking.

[OldNick]

I can imagine Mary Corbett being intellectually & morally intimidated by Lowe - after all, she is just free-riding off of her father's shares & lifetime's work for the club whilst Lowe, love him or loathe him, has put some time in at the coal face and made some real decisions (for right or wrong), rather than abdicate his responsibility when a Director unlike, er, Mary Corbett for example.

 

But PHYSICALLY intimidated? And in public?? I don't believe it for one second. I believe she said it but do not believe it is true.

 

Further rantings from a bitter, twisted and incompetent person in my opinion. And these comments should be treated as such.

Whilst i understand where you come from on this I do think that MC is doing things with the best intentions, but perhaps a little misguided who has her ear and the advice she may be taking.

[stthrobber]

If it is best left alone then to be fair it shouldn't have been said in a public place in the first place. People can interpret those comments in a multitude of ways, from deciding Lowe is a violent deranged thug to feeling it was deliberately leaked in a concerted attack from former board members last week, to thinking it was something which slipped out in a fit of pique and shouldn't have been said in public.

 

However, posting it whilst stating you know more but won't reveal it seems a trifle disingenuous (to use the forum's favourite term), hence I'd like to know who was behind the idea - Mary or Duncan, a major shareholder or the club historian.

 

I agree with Jonah here. Information should not be dangled in front of people without backing up why things were said in the first place.

 

Let's not forget that Mary Corbett is a journalist, and journos by their nature are pretty hard nosed people when they want to get a story.

 

If there are things going on that can sway a fans opinion of those running the club either way, then it should be made public, and presumably assuming that information isn't slanderous or libellous, can only harm the current regime, which is what the majority of fans wish to happen anyway.

 

If Mary Corbett didn't wish the facts to be known, then Dunc was wrong to say anything in the first place.

 

As for Wiseman.......:mad:

[stthrobber]

If it is best left alone then to be fair it shouldn't have been said in a public place in the first place. People can interpret those comments in a multitude of ways, from deciding Lowe is a violent deranged thug to feeling it was deliberately leaked in a concerted attack from former board members last week, to thinking it was something which slipped out in a fit of pique and shouldn't have been said in public.

 

However, posting it whilst stating you know more but won't reveal it seems a trifle disingenuous (to use the forum's favourite term), hence I'd like to know who was behind the idea - Mary or Duncan, a major shareholder or the club historian.

 

I agree with Jonah here. Information should not be dangled in front of people without backing up why things were said in the first place.

 

Let's not forget that Mary Corbett is a journalist, and journos by their nature are pretty hard nosed people when they want to get a story.

 

If there are things going on that can sway a fans opinion of those running the club either way, then it should be made public, and presumably assuming that information isn't slanderous or libellous, can only harm the current regime, which is what the majority of fans wish to happen anyway.

 

If Mary Corbett didn't wish the facts to be known, then Dunc was wrong to say anything in the first place.

 

As for Wiseman.......:mad:

[OldNick]

As I said earlier... no smoke without fire?

That sentence is exactly why Duncans post is right to be questioned.It is like saying that there was no smoke without fire re Dave Jones and also that poor bloke who spent years being accused of murdering the girl on Wimbledon common.

[OldNick]

As I said earlier... no smoke without fire?

That sentence is exactly why Duncans post is right to be questioned.It is like saying that there was no smoke without fire re Dave Jones and also that poor bloke who spent years being accused of murdering the girl on Wimbledon common.

[trousers]

Information should not be dangled in front of people without backing up why things were said in the first place.

 

And you come to this forum to avoid that scenario.....?!

[trousers]

Information should not be dangled in front of people without backing up why things were said in the first place.

 

And you come to this forum to avoid that scenario.....?!

[trousers]

As I said earlier... no smoke without fire?

 

That sentence is exactly why Duncans post is right to be questioned.

 

Alien concept on TSW alert....

 

Perhaps, for balance, we could use this thread to question all the 'smoking guns' from the last two years then?

[trousers]

As I said earlier... no smoke without fire?

 

That sentence is exactly why Duncans post is right to be questioned.

 

Alien concept on TSW alert....

 

Perhaps, for balance, we could use this thread to question all the 'smoking guns' from the last two years then?

[Scudamore]

I agree with Jonah here. Information should not be dangled in front of people without backing up why things were said in the first place.

 

Let's not forget that Mary Corbett is a journalist, and journos by their nature are pretty hard nosed people when they want to get a story.

 

If there are things going on that can sway a fans opinion of those running the club either way, then it should be made public, and presumably assuming that information isn't slanderous or libellous, can only harm the current regime, which is what the majority of fans wish to happen anyway.

 

If Mary Corbett didn't wish the facts to be known, then Dunc was wrong to say anything in the first place.

 

As for Wiseman.......:mad:

 

I think we saw at the AGM that Mary Corbett is most certainly not a hard nosed individual.

[Scudamore]

I agree with Jonah here. Information should not be dangled in front of people without backing up why things were said in the first place.

 

Let's not forget that Mary Corbett is a journalist, and journos by their nature are pretty hard nosed people when they want to get a story.

 

If there are things going on that can sway a fans opinion of those running the club either way, then it should be made public, and presumably assuming that information isn't slanderous or libellous, can only harm the current regime, which is what the majority of fans wish to happen anyway.

 

If Mary Corbett didn't wish the facts to be known, then Dunc was wrong to say anything in the first place.

 

As for Wiseman.......:mad:

 

I think we saw at the AGM that Mary Corbett is most certainly not a hard nosed individual.

[OldNick]

Alien concept on TSF alert....

 

Perhaps, for balance, we could use this thread to question all the 'smoking guns' from the last two years then?

Any smoking guns can be debated.One thing for sure trousers is that if it had anything to do withRL and could hurt him it would be well debated on here.i have no problem with that.

[OldNick]

Alien concept on TSF alert....

 

Perhaps, for balance, we could use this thread to question all the 'smoking guns' from the last two years then?

Any smoking guns can be debated.One thing for sure trousers is that if it had anything to do withRL and could hurt him it would be well debated on here.i have no problem with that.

[Saint Richard of Woolston]

It is quite clear the anti-Lowe Brigade are now acting together and starting the 'drip, drip, drip' of stories, true and 'imaginary'.

 

Duncan's views on Lowe are well-known and we have seen him drop in a couple of historic gems of late. Corbett....and now Wiseman.

 

Doubtless Up Pahars will be playing some records backwards somewhere on this board and telling us that it means Lowe is the devil incarnate.

 

Pass the salt, please.

 

I don't really care if anybody is pro-Lowe or anti-Lowe but please make your own minds up and don't fall for this load of old tosh.

 

Somebody pass the salt, please.

[Saint Richard of Woolston]

It is quite clear the anti-Lowe Brigade are now acting together and starting the 'drip, drip, drip' of stories, true and 'imaginary'.

 

Duncan's views on Lowe are well-known and we have seen him drop in a couple of historic gems of late. Corbett....and now Wiseman.

 

Doubtless Up Pahars will be playing some records backwards somewhere on this board and telling us that it means Lowe is the devil incarnate.

 

Pass the salt, please.

 

I don't really care if anybody is pro-Lowe or anti-Lowe but please make your own minds up and don't fall for this load of old tosh.

 

Somebody pass the salt, please.

[SaintRobbie]

That sentence is exactly why Duncans post is right to be questioned.It is like saying that there was no smoke without fire re Dave Jones and also that poor bloke who spent years being accused of murdering the girl on Wimbledon common.

 

Indeed. Innocent until proven guilty. But ironically, how many accusations are made that turn out to be true compared to false? ... out of interest? The vast majority?

 

As I said I dont care, there is more than enough anecdotal evidence during his long reign to formulate a case for the prosecution on this matter.

[SaintRobbie]

That sentence is exactly why Duncans post is right to be questioned.It is like saying that there was no smoke without fire re Dave Jones and also that poor bloke who spent years being accused of murdering the girl on Wimbledon common.

 

Indeed. Innocent until proven guilty. But ironically, how many accusations are made that turn out to be true compared to false? ... out of interest? The vast majority?

 

As I said I dont care, there is more than enough anecdotal evidence during his long reign to formulate a case for the prosecution on this matter.

[JohnnyFartPants]

I think we saw at the AGM that Mary Corbett is most certainly not a hard nosed individual.

 

Are you saying she is at least two different people with soft squidgy noses?

[JohnnyFartPants]

I think we saw at the AGM that Mary Corbett is most certainly not a hard nosed individual.

 

Are you saying she is at least two different people with soft squidgy noses?

[OldNick]

As I said I dont care, there is more than enough anecdotal evidence during his long reign to formulate a case for the prosecution on this matter.

and you believe all that stuff do you?

[OldNick]

As I said I dont care, there is more than enough anecdotal evidence during his long reign to formulate a case for the prosecution on this matter.

and you believe all that stuff do you?

[Badger]

Anyone else remember reading a similar storyline about Lawrie's wife feeling "intimidated" by Lowe at some stage at SMS ?

[Badger]

Anyone else remember reading a similar storyline about Lawrie's wife feeling "intimidated" by Lowe at some stage at SMS ?

[Guan 2.0]

It is quite clear the anti-Lowe Brigade are now acting together and starting the 'drip, drip, drip' of stories, true and 'imaginary'.

 

Duncan's views on Lowe are well-known and we have seen him drop in a couple of historic gems of late. Corbett....and now Wiseman.

 

Doubtless Up Pahars will be playing some records backwards somewhere on this board and telling us that it means Lowe is the devil incarnate.

 

Pass the salt, please.

 

I don't really care if anybody is pro-Lowe or anti-Lowe but please make your own minds up and don't fall for this load of old tosh.

 

Somebody pass the salt, please.

 

Coincidentally after Saints have recorded a convincing win at home, meaning the usual moans can't be repeated.. Shome mishtake, shurely?

[Guan 2.0]

It is quite clear the anti-Lowe Brigade are now acting together and starting the 'drip, drip, drip' of stories, true and 'imaginary'.

 

Duncan's views on Lowe are well-known and we have seen him drop in a couple of historic gems of late. Corbett....and now Wiseman.

 

Doubtless Up Pahars will be playing some records backwards somewhere on this board and telling us that it means Lowe is the devil incarnate.

 

Pass the salt, please.

 

I don't really care if anybody is pro-Lowe or anti-Lowe but please make your own minds up and don't fall for this load of old tosh.

 

Somebody pass the salt, please.

 

Coincidentally after Saints have recorded a convincing win at home, meaning the usual moans can't be repeated.. Shome mishtake, shurely?

[Scudamore]

Are you saying she is at least two different people with soft squidgy noses?

 

Exactly that yes.

 

Or i could be saying that she ended up in tears over the whole thing.

 

Which is fair enough...sounded like an aggressive atmosphere was served up that day...

 

Also sounded like Leon Crouch was the aggressor...so maybe she feels intimidated by him as well?

[Scudamore]

Are you saying she is at least two different people with soft squidgy noses?

 

Exactly that yes.

 

Or i could be saying that she ended up in tears over the whole thing.

 

Which is fair enough...sounded like an aggressive atmosphere was served up that day...

 

Also sounded like Leon Crouch was the aggressor...so maybe she feels intimidated by him as well?

[fos1]

I was with Duncan when Mary made these comments, I can confirm she said " she FELT threatened and intimidated by Rupert Lowe. No more no less !!

[fos1]

I was with Duncan when Mary made these comments, I can confirm she said " she FELT threatened and intimidated by Rupert Lowe. No more no less !!

[jonah]

Fair point, although I think an alternative valid observation would be that if the majority of people on here were clambering for further clarification then the original thread, where it was originally raised & discussed, would still be 'hot'. The fact that it's naturally faded away would tend to suggest that most people were happy to let it lie?

 

Well firstly that thread had descended into the "I'm a better fan than you" level which meant 99.9% of people didn't want to read it any more. Secondly, that wasn't the subject of that thread. Thirdly, does everything on here need a "majority of people" to be interested for it to be discussed?

 

Simple question, simple answer required - if you're not interested don't read or reply! :-)

[jonah]

Fair point, although I think an alternative valid observation would be that if the majority of people on here were clambering for further clarification then the original thread, where it was originally raised & discussed, would still be 'hot'. The fact that it's naturally faded away would tend to suggest that most people were happy to let it lie?

 

Well firstly that thread had descended into the "I'm a better fan than you" level which meant 99.9% of people didn't want to read it any more. Secondly, that wasn't the subject of that thread. Thirdly, does everything on here need a "majority of people" to be interested for it to be discussed?

 

Simple question, simple answer required - if you're not interested don't read or reply! :-)