St Steve Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 On the echo site, Conner says we need to put presure on the board, how does marching thru the town centre do this. I can not imagine the board actually care it doesnt get in their way, cause them any loss. Micheal 'Rupert I see those fans are marching again' Rupert ' Micheal care for a Custard Cream, old boy?' Micheal ' why yes, thank you, how kind' Rupert 'No trouble at all, take two' Micheal' what were we talking about again?' Rupert 'nothing important I dont think, Mint Viscount?' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 this protest is a bit of a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Steve Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I dont see the point in them doing another. change of tactic is needed. maybe stopping ruperts biscuit delivery. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 (edited) From the facebook group.... These will probably be the details for the Cardiff protest. saturday, 28th febuary we will be meeting at 2:30 outside the itchen stand where we will then do a lap of SMS and then lay roses and wreaths etc to signify the slow death of SFC. please show your support and buy a rose to lay in front of the stadium for the cardiff game. Glad they like my idea,posted from a while back...... Flowers/wreaths laid out in front of the Ted Bates statue in a carpet fashion, not just dumped. All supporters who wish too can buy a single rose, be it red or black, can participate. Therefore those who are unable to march can feel as though they have contributed. Could look visibly impressive for the media. This act could be used to signify a club that is dying under the current regime. This of course could be used in tandem with another form of protest such as a sit-in at the main entrance. Last edited by saint lard; 21-02-2009 at 06:27 PM.. Edited 24 February, 2009 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 These will probaly be the details for the preston protest. saturday, 28th febuary we will be meeting at 2:30 outside the itchen stand where we will then do a lap of SMS and then lay roses and wreaths etc to signify the slow death of SFC. please show your support and buy a rose to lay in frotn of the stadium for the cardiff game what???:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 These will probaly be the details for the preston protest. saturday, 28th febuary we will be meeting at 2:30 outside the itchen stand where we will then do a lap of SMS and then lay roses and wreaths etc to signify the slow death of SFC. please show your support and buy a rose to lay in frotn of the stadium for the cardiff game We will then administer a 5-0 thumping to Cardiff,move out of the bottom 3 and you'll all look like prize pillocks. If you want to protest and moan all the time become an MP or a student. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 (edited) what???:confused: Cardiff,not preston,my bad. From my Facebook inbox........ there will not be a protest from the city centre for teh cardiff game but we will be meetin outside the reception of teh stadium, do a lap of SMS and the idea of laying roses and wreaths etc has been popular, i will create an event and could you press yes if you will be attending and layin a rose, if you wll not be layin a rose then please press maybe. media want to know what sort of numbers will be doing this. more updates on this later Edited 24 February, 2009 by saint lard Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 We will then administer a 5-0 thumping to Cardiff,move out of the bottom 3 and you'll all look like prize pillocks. If you want to protest and moan all the time become an MP or a student. I'm just passing on the message,wind your'e neck in please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 this group will be an embarassment, walking around the ground with their Wotte out banners while he is matching Pearson's performance. Why not go for the football rather than being drama queens, roses!:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 this group will be an embarassment, walking around the ground with their Wotte out banners while he is matching Pearson's performance. Why not go for the football rather than being drama queens, roses!:confused: It`s called freedom of choice and having a different opinion to yours... Is that not allowed? If it all goes tits up again results wise, will it be ok then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 It`s called freedom of choice and having a different opinion to yours... Is that not allowed? If it all goes tits up again results wise, will it be ok then? its not opinion or supporting board thats different just I think this tactic is an embarassing waste of time. Do you think it is right to protest against Wotte? Has done ok so far IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 this group will be an embarassment, walking around the ground with their Wotte out banners while he is matching Pearson's performance. Why not go for the football rather than being drama queens, roses!:confused: Still the town's florists will be pleased seeing as there are no roses in the public gardens (or any other garden north of the 52 nd parallel at this time of year). Will be intetresting to see how many actually invest in roses and wreaths. Bet ya there will be 2 pansies and a crocus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 We will then administer a 5-0 thumping to Cardiff,move out of the bottom 3 and you'll all look like prize pillocks. If you want to protest and moan all the time become an MP or a student. Can i have the lottery numbers please. Amazing what one good result does to some people.:confused: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint lard Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 its not opinion or supporting board thats different just I think this tactic is an embarassing waste of time. Do you think it is right to protest against Wotte? Has done ok so far IMHO. Wotte and the players will get the support inside the ground. Outside, Lowe,Wilde,Askham and the usual suspects are in the firing line,and rightly so. This is on the premise that Wotte makes no more derogatory remarks towards certain sections of the fans in the media,he does himself no favours,he needs to concentrate on getting things right on the playing side. So far in his very short tenure it is ok,but ok only.IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 this group will be an embarassment, walking around the ground with their Wotte out banners while he is matching Pearson's performance. Why not go for the football rather than being drama queens, roses!:confused: not sure why you are concerned if they are embarassment or not. i do not think Wotte will be the subject of their banners this time. even if we go undefeated until the end of the season it does not alter the opinion of many , that Lowe needs to go and take Wilde with him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 (edited) its not opinion or supporting board thats different just I think this tactic is an embarassing waste of time. Do you think it is right to protest against Wotte? Has done ok so far IMHO. Why can`t you grasp the fact that we all are entitled to our own opinions??? As far as protesting about Wotte,personally i am no great fan of his and dislike his attitude towards fans recently and it has not changed after my pre Preston match chat with him, as far as him doing ok,he has ONE win not enough to get the "Wotte`s red and white army" songs out just yet. He still has a long way to go to convince me, keep the side winning and then we can give him credit, until then the jury is very much still out for me. Edited 24 February, 2009 by ALWAYS_SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HILL HEAD SAINT Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Jeesh DD when you get a bone you do fcking go on gnawing and gnawing don't you! Did Pearson **** your ex or something? If Wotte loses 4 games then I will come back and constantly nag at you because Pearson never! That is ignoring the re-writing of history that you and the others with agendas have with Wotte being part of the management team here since the start of the season. Did Pearson have a pre-season here ? Did Pearson have the luxury of watching all these players for 3/4 of a season? No-one knows if Pearson would of been a success this year - many of us who went to Staplewood where you get closer to the players etc understood what he brought to the club that was missing at that time. Your constant whingeing about Pearson and Sturrock makes you get closer to that nut job Dalek everyday! this MEMBER(delldays) sits in his student tower in plymouth and watches from afar so you would expect these comments from someone who goes nowhere near st marys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 It`s called freedom of choice and having a different opinion to yours... Is that not allowed? If it all goes tits up again results wise, will it be ok then? Don't listen to it - go ahead and do it. At least you can look back on it and say your feelings were known. Better to do that than to do nothing and then regret it....when we head for L1.. Not saying it is going to happen, but protesting so far whilst supporting the team has made me feel better about the whole thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Why can`t you grasp the fact that we all are entitled to our own opinions??? As far as protesting about Wotte,personally i am no great fan of his and dislike his attitude towards fans recently and it has not changed after my pre Preston match chat with him, as far as him doing ok,he has ONE win not enough to get the "Wotte`s red and white army" songs out just yet. He still has a long way to go to convince me, keep the side winning and then we can give him credit, until then the jury is very much still out for me. maybe I didn't put it well, I understand the sentiments of the protesters just not their method -which (IMHO) in this case sounds cheesy and embarassing. I do not feel Wotte warrants protests, nor do I feel he has earnt songs in his praise - he may warrant either in due course. I do feel he is doing ok so far, very similar in steadying the team as well as points gained to NP. I would not feel any better about relegation to league one if I had thrown flowers around St Marys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 maybe I didn't put it well, I understand the sentiments of the protesters just not their method -which (IMHO) in this case sounds cheesy and embarassing. I do not feel Wotte warrants protests, nor do I feel he has earnt songs in his praise - he may warrant either in due course. I do feel he is doing ok so far, very similar in steadying the team as well as points gained to NP. I would not feel any better about relegation to league one if I had thrown flowers around St Marys. But Nick.. Just one week ago people were pontificating about how the march type of protest was not the way forward..... Now they offer a symbolic alternative...and it seems the media may be interested. What's wrong with that...and was Wotte mentioned in the post from Facebook??? Disregard what Wotte is doing with the team....are you happy with how Lowe and Wilde have run things this season???? I'm not. We HAVE to make our feelings crystal clear. Lowe is too thick skinned, Wilde is as elusive as a pint glass that refills itself so.... Askham, Richards, Withers, Windsor-Clive are who we should be aiming at... Withers is already looking stressed to me.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 not sure why you are concerned if they are embarassment or not.not so much concerned but do care how our club and supporters are seen i do not think Wotte will be the subject of their banners this time.think they got that very wrong as the declared reason for the last one even if we go undefeated until the end of the season it does not alter the opinion of many , that Lowe needs to go and take Wilde with himagree as above Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 But Nick.. Just one week ago people were pontificating about how the march type of protest was not the way forward.....agree Now they offer a symbolic alternative...and it seems the media may be interested.don't think this is either What's wrong with that...and was Wotte mentioned in the post from Facebook???no but the leader of the protest is targetting Wotte in his comments Disregard what Wotte is doing with the team....are you happy with how Lowe and Wilde have run things this season????no of course not I'm not. We HAVE to make our feelings crystal clear. Lowe is too thick skinned,exactly why I feel these protests are a waste of time Wilde is as elusive as a pint glass that refills itself so.... Askham, Richards, Withers, Windsor-Clive are who we should be aiming at... Withers is already looking stressed to me.... a/a Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 a/a Exactly...I get your thinking Nick...I reckon if I repeat myself enough about Askham etc the focus will shift directly from Lowe!!!!!! We can only hope!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Right sider Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Nick, there are 3 sides to this, either you like Lowe, or you dislike him and do feck all about it or you dislike Lowe and want to let the world know it as it makes you feel better and might, and it is only a small hope, might actually have an effect. So don't get on your high horse about protests and allow people the freedom of expression that comes with living in a democracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 Nick, there are 3 sides to this, either you like Lowe, or you dislike him and do feck all about it or you dislike Lowe and want to let the world know it as it makes you feel better and might, and it is only a small hope, might actually have an effect. So don't get on your high horse about protests and allow people the freedom of expression that comes with living in a democracy. its a fine line between freedom of speech and making a prat of yourself with protests that half the people don't know what its about! (no high horse intended just different opinion) How many people on the march realised it was organised as a protest against Wotte's appointment and to reinstate Crouch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 its a fine line between freedom of speech and making a prat of yourself with protests that half the people don't know what its about! (no high horse intended just different opinion) How many people on the march realised it was organised as a protest against Wotte's appointment and to reinstate Crouch?thats why it was a big own goal,i was confused when i saw that silly placard and how many of those were protesting after the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 24 February, 2009 Share Posted 24 February, 2009 I think these, minority (I know that causes offence but mathematically it is) protests, particular if they are without clear objective play totally into Lowe's defence of its only the lunatic fringe who don't understand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 its a fine line between freedom of speech and making a prat of yourself with protests that half the people don't know what its about! (no high horse intended just different opinion) What a strange analysis!!!!! Freedom of speech gives people the right (within reason) to do as they feel. How you, and others perceive it is irrelevant to that initial right to free speech. There's no fine line between free speech and how in exercising it, you are perceived. How many people on the march realised it was organised as a protest against Wotte's appointment and to reinstate Crouch? Once again I think you're being rather obtuse here, slightly disengenuos and at risk of becoming slightly boring. Like most marches/demonstrations/campaigns, people often come together from a multitude of standpoints, beliefs and desires to form an alliance. Very often, they're a coalition of forces brought together by an overwhelming common belief. Your notion that everyone has to be singing exactly from the same song sheet and all views must be identical is slightly weiord IMHO. I would hazard a guess that the common belief that the marchers connected to SFC have held is that the Club is being run in a rather poor manner and that change at the top is needed. And I'm sure that within the marches there have been a number of inidividual beliefs about how this can be rectified. Indeed, just as when we ever search for a manager, whilst there is normally a common view that we need to replace (or find) a manager, there is very much disagreement over who thast replacement should be. However, that in no way undermines the initial general perceived and agreed assumption that change is needed. Your continued efforts to try and polarise the argument and focus on one area in particular are disengenuous, if not risible. Personally, I was campaiging for a restructure of the Boardroom to ensure we have the best possible set up and backing for the manager of the day. At the moment that man is Wotte and I would like a Board and backroom set up that gives him the best chance to succeed on the pitch. In demonstrating and taking part in the march, I did not have any problems lining up against others who may not sure that exact personal viewpoint and I never felt the need to mirror, stand behind or even criticise anyone else's individual comments or beliefs. The very fact that you have a problem is something you need to address on a personal level (actually I don't think you do have a problem with it, but instead you're trying to make mileage out of it by pretending to for some reason) . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 What a strange analysis!!!!! Freedom of speech gives people the right (within reason) to do as they feel. How you, and others perceive it is irrelevant to that initial right to free speech. There's no fine line between free speech and how in exercising it, you are perceived. Once again I think you're being rather obtuse here, slightly disengenuos and at risk of becoming slightly boring. Like most marches/demonstrations/campaigns, people often come together from a multitude of standpoints, beliefs and desires to form an alliance. Very often, they're a coalition of forces brought together by an overwhelming common belief. Your notion that everyone has to be singing exactly from the same song sheet and all views must be identical is slightly weiord IMHO. I would hazard a guess that the common belief that the marchers connected to SFC have held is that the Club is being run in a rather poor manner and that change at the top is needed. And I'm sure that within the marches there have been a number of inidividual beliefs about how this can be rectified. Indeed, just as when we ever search for a manager, whilst there is normally a common view that we need to replace (or find) a manager, there is very much disagreement over who thast replacement should be. However, that in no way undermines the initial general perceived and agreed assumption that change is needed. Your continued efforts to try and polarise the argument and focus on one area in particular are disengenuous, if not risible. Personally, I was campaiging for a restructure of the Boardroom to ensure we have the best possible set up and backing for the manager of the day. At the moment that man is Wotte and I would like a Board and backroom set up that gives him the best chance to succeed on the pitch. In demonstrating and taking part in the march, I did not have any problems lining up against others who may not sure that exact personal viewpoint and I never felt the need to mirror, stand behind or even criticise anyone else's individual comments or beliefs. The very fact that you have a problem is something you need to address on a personal level (actually I don't think you do have a problem with it, but instead you're trying to make mileage out of it by pretending to for some reason) . you were on the wrong march then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
um pahars Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 you were on the wrong march then! I can assure you that I was on the right march:rolleyes: Come and have a walk next time and have a chat with your fellow fans, as opposed to just blowing off on here. I'll even make up a "special UN style blue flak jacket" for you, so that your presence won't added to the total. You might get to see how there was much more that united people on that leisurely stroll, than divided them, despite your poor efforts to suggest otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I can assure you that I was on the right march:rolleyes: Come and have a walk next time and have a chat with your fellow fans, as opposed to just blowing off on here. I'll even make up a "special UN style blue flak jacket" for you, so that your presence won't added to the total. You might get to see how there was much more that united people on that leisurely stroll, than divided them, despite your poor efforts to suggest otherwise. SOME ONE on here actually talking to other fans never happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 you were on the wrong march then! I am going to go on a march soon and demand you get a seat on the board. You certainly have worked hard enough for it...Then again there is always jonah to consider. Rupert, so many choices from your little pixies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 25 February, 2009 Share Posted 25 February, 2009 I am going to go on a march soon and demand you get a seat on the board. You certainly have worked hard enough for it...Then again there is always jonah to consider. Rupert, so many choices from your little pixies. I will only do it if I can bleed the club dry, I will sell all players for my personal profit and hope for administration and relegation - I read on here thats the job description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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