chi saint Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 And I find it perverse that you and others trot out such lame lines. We've had two threads running for those to register if they want Saints to fail just so we can be rid of Lowe & co, and both threads got a minimal response. I find it strange how you (and others) think that anyone apart from a couple of nutters get any pleasure out of Saints losing, or conversely get upset when we win. And who woke you up Umm Duh? Get back to bed and when you feel able to post a supportive and coherent post then start typing, frankly having read your your recent offerings i'm beginning to wonder if you have lost the plot, correction, perhaps you do have a plot and not one that is designed to help Saints. So either get on board or get off and find somewhere else to spout your bile.
70's Mike Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 And one who didn't do a very good job at the end last time around, and one who's probably doing an even worse job this time around??? Because there is no one else out the big, wide world who would be able to do it:rolleyes::smt048:rolleyes::smt048 totally agree Um, i am fed up of hearing there is no one else, we had no choice , what else could we do ? there are always choices problem is Rupert has made the wrong ones for the last 5 years
bowers-sfc Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 i dont want wotte out me and alot of fans want to give him the chance to keep us up. i just disagree with his coments in fridays daily echo. that banner was for him to see in papers etc then look behind me and see a mixed age range of supporters on the protest.
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 And who woke you up Umm Duh? Get back to bed and when you feel able to post a supportive and coherent post then start typing, frankly having read your your recent offerings i'm beginning to wonder if you have lost the plot, correction, perhaps you do have a plot and not one that is designed to help Saints. So either get on board or get off and find somewhere else to spout your bile. OK thanks for that. You just carry on in your little dreamworld thinking that there are thousands of Saints fans who have had their weekends ruined because we won;)
NickG Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 maybe it was me being slow but I didn't realise that the purpose of the march was for Lowe and Wilde to step down -over silly decisions like appointing Wotte and for Crouch to be chairman. Did others all realise this was what the march was for?
SFC Forever Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 And Wotte if Crouch doesn't want to be the head beaver again?
CLOTH EARS Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 More air-headed nonsense. Gates stayed pretty much the same last time he left. It is utter rubbish to suggest that there is any amount of boycotters. There are a few that say they are "boycotting" but when you push them generally they say they cant afford it or preferred when we were in the Premier. Which makes them fairweather supporters of course............... Manji, You talk total ********!!! A fair chunk of the 5000 that have stopped going since last season will have been down to Lowe's return ( I am one of them and I had been going to watch Saints for 33 years HARDLY FAIRWEATHER EH? I know of several others who stopped going due to Lowe aswell) There will be some fans that will have stopped going due to the ressession but they will be in the minority of that 5000. I bet you IF Lowe is gone come next August EVEN if we are in League one, crowds will be up on this season and I will be one of those who will start going again! The fact of the matter is that Lowe is divisive, I, and a fair few others knew that his coming back would be a disaster. Anyway Manj, you can go and stick your head back in the sand now!
NickG Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 he is devisive -but only when we are doing badly.
1576 Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 he is devisive -but only when we are doing badly. No you thick ****. Divisive win or lose.
NickG Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 no fans are happy when we are doing well. btw not thick
WATERSIDEIFASAINT Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 There are 1000's of fans who have stopped going as they see no hope or decent future for Saints with Lowe and Wilde in charge.This and our appalling home record this season are 2 of the main reasons attendances have dramatically fallen along with the credit crunch. I dont want Crouch back either by the way!! There must be some alternative out there I and my mates have got used to not going this season so much so that none even ask each other if we want to go to the football any more!! Sad inditement of current circumstances at the club.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 he is devisive -but only when we are doing badly. Maybe prior to his last removal, yes Nick Based on this season only (his return) - devisive from DAY ONE. Oh how I love apologists...admit it Nick, he is a dead man walking in Boardroom terms now, on the ropes...if his conflict with The Echo is to believed, his removal may only be a short time away.
Right sider Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 I was also on the march but continued my boycott of Lowe. This is the only way that he will see the light. The attendance wasn't that great but if you consider his was the second march and also the bickering between the protests. Also the fact that it is run by a nipper, who to be honest didn't put across his thoughts on Wotte properly, did not help matters. I think that must be the end for a march in that form. A boycott is the next logical solution but as most of the crowd are season ticket holders the club would hide the figures. Maybe the STH should tell the club if they will not renew, but looking at the reaction of some to the march, I bet alot will blindly renew anyway. I had a conversation with quite a few people at about 3 o clock with quite a few like minded fans. As for a walk away, i think it would be better if you kept the fans outside the ground in a sit down protest, it would make a bigger statement as others could join after the game if they watch the team. Also feel the walk around the ground was a good idea yesterday. Btw I remember saints winning in 76 and have been a regular from late 80's to last May! Ps I will be back like a shot the minute RL and his cronies leave.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 I was also on the march but continued my boycott of Lowe. This is the only way that he will see the light. The attendance wasn't that great but if you consider his was the second march and also the bickering between the protests. Also the fact that it is run by a nipper, who to be honest didn't put across his thoughts on Wotte properly, did not help matters. I think that must be the end for a march in that form. A boycott is the next logical solution but as most of the crowd are season ticket holders the club would hide the figures. Maybe the STH should tell the club if they will not renew, but looking at the reaction of some to the march, I bet alot will blindly renew anyway. I had a conversation with quite a few people at about 3 o clock with quite a few like minded fans. As for a walk away, i think it would be better if you kept the fans outside the ground in a sit down protest, it would make a bigger statement as others could join after the game if they watch the team. Also feel the walk around the ground was a good idea yesterday. Btw I remember saints winning in 76 and have been a regular from late 80's to last May! Ps I will be back like a shot the minute RL and his cronies leave. I think what we all have to bear in mind here is this... The majority of season ticket holders are probably in the Over 50's category - and as such only a small amount will spend their time on the old web..now, they get their info from the Echo and places like that. As the Echo have been a vehicle all season for Lowe Propaganda, they don't get snippets of info in the way that we do on here... So, they may well be sticking with Lowe for this reason - however we should all be congratulating Connor for his efforts. Youngsters like Connor will be THE LIFEBLOOD OF THIS CLUB IN YEARS TO COME. Underestimate that if you wish, but when the current swell of ST Holders give up and you have alienated people like Connor, who is left??? Something that Askham, Richards, Wilde, Windsor-Clive, Withers should bear in mind when they declare that the future of the club is paramount...
NickG Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 Maybe prior to his last removal, yes Nick Based on this season only (his return) - devisive from DAY ONE. Oh how I love apologists...admit it Nick, he is a dead man walking in Boardroom terms now, on the ropes...if his conflict with The Echo is to believed, his removal may only be a short time away. oh I want him gone, and of course he will one day. Not apologising for him, just saying how fickle we are - of we had done great we would not have cared about him being back, but him being Lowe our thresholds are lower.
um pahars Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 just saying how fickle we are - All depends what you mean by fickle??? I would argue that the vast majority of sensible supporters are fairly rational in their appraisal of Lowe, and in particular his performance as CEO/Chairman. When things were going well Lowe received the plaudits and he received some very good wonga. Fair play to him and I don't think anyone has a problem for people being rewarded for doing a good job. But when things didn't go so well and he made a number of very poor decisions, then he was quite rightly held to account. The very fact he replicated these errors and appeared unable to learn from them, meant his time to step down had come. Quite simply, he's past his sell by date and has shown nothing since his return to demonstrate that he has been able to repeat any of his earlier successes. In fact, the decision making in his second stint is probably even worse than some of the mistakes he made first time around!
NickG Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 All depends what you mean by fickle??? I would argue that the vast majority of sensible supporters are fairly rational in their appraisal of Lowe, and in particular his performance as CEO/Chairman. When things were going well Lowe received the plaudits and he received some very good wonga. Fair play to him and I don't think anyone has a problem for people being rewarded for doing a good job. But when things didn't go so well and he made a number of very poor decisions, then he was quite rightly held to account. The very fact he replicated these errors and appeared unable to learn from them, meant his time to step down had come. Quite simply, he's past his sell by date and has shown nothing since his return to demonstrate that he has been able to repeat any of his earlier successes. In fact, the decision making in his second stint is probably even worse than some of the mistakes he made first time around! totally agree. Point I was trying to make - badly - was that if form increases interest in boardroom/protests wains. Aiming this protest at Wotte will kill it, if we do ok under him. THe other aim, reimstalling Crouch - does he want to come back?
JohnnyFartPants Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 i dont want wotte out me and alot of fans want to give him the chance to keep us up. i just disagree with his coments in fridays daily echo. that banner was for him to see in papers etc then look behind me and see a mixed age range of supporters on the protest. I have no idea what you were trying to say here but I really admire you coming on here and joining in in your second language.
sperm_john Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 the idea that if rupert lowe go's the stadium will start to fill up again is silly
Mole Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 the idea that if rupert lowe go's the stadium will start to fill up again is silly Correct. Football is like smoking cigarettes. Both are highly addictive and habbit forming, but a period of abstainence can break the habbit. Over time crowds will pick up, but it won't happen overnight once Lowe has gone.
OldNick Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 (edited) Only because you are letting it. I heard no chants against Wotte on the march, during the game or after the game , Did You ? Next you will be saying that the 2 kids who had Real Madrid shirts on ( they were 5 and 7 years old) detracted from the march Stand back and look at it from Wottes position.The first march there were definitely Wotte out chants and saturday the leading fans in the group had at least 2 placards against Wotte.He would rightly believe that that group were against him. Before you tell me he is too sensitive remember how the marchers got all precious when he dared to say about them. The fans in the ground were fantastic marchers and all.I went to the game in trepidation as i thought the anti lowe stuff would carry on in the ground, it didn't and so credit to those 'true' fans as well. Edited 23 February, 2009 by OldNick
OldNick Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 (edited) Only because you are letting it. I heard no chants against Wotte on the march, during the game or after the game , Did You ? Next you will be saying that the 2 kids who had Real Madrid shirts on ( they were 5 and 7 years old) detracted from the march Stand back and look at it from Wottes position.The first march there were definitely Wotte out chants and saturday the leading fans in the group had at least 2 placards against Wotte.He would rightly believe that that group were against him. Before you tell me he is too sensitive remember how the marchers got all precious when he dared to say about them. The fans in the ground were fantastic marchers and all.I went to the game in trepidation as i thought the anti lowe stuff would carry on in the ground, it didn't and so credit to those 'true' fans as well. Edited 23 February, 2009 by OldNick
trousers Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Is tomorrow's "pivotal" SLH board meeting still taking place?
trousers Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Is tomorrow's "pivotal" SLH board meeting still taking place?
OldNick Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 i dont want wotte out me and alot of fans want to give him the chance to keep us up. i just disagree with his coments in fridays daily echo. that banner was for him to see in papers etc then look behind me and see a mixed age range of supporters on the protest. Well the nbanner should have read Wotte look behind me we are not all 16 year old kids, not Wotte out.
OldNick Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 i dont want wotte out me and alot of fans want to give him the chance to keep us up. i just disagree with his coments in fridays daily echo. that banner was for him to see in papers etc then look behind me and see a mixed age range of supporters on the protest. Well the nbanner should have read Wotte look behind me we are not all 16 year old kids, not Wotte out.
Frank's cousin Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Crowds will pick up when we start winning more - thats the nature of the game, perceived value - at teh moment its been about spending £28 per two hours of misery.. As far as I am concerned, if protests bring about a home 3-1, lets do them every week!
Frank's cousin Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Crowds will pick up when we start winning more - thats the nature of the game, perceived value - at teh moment its been about spending £28 per two hours of misery.. As far as I am concerned, if protests bring about a home 3-1, lets do them every week!
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Correct. Football is like smoking cigarettes. Both are highly addictive and habbit forming, but a period of abstainence can break the habbit. Over time crowds will pick up, but it won't happen overnight once Lowe has gone. Two "B's" in habit is a bad habit, IMO.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Correct. Football is like smoking cigarettes. Both are highly addictive and habbit forming, but a period of abstainence can break the habbit. Over time crowds will pick up, but it won't happen overnight once Lowe has gone. Two "B's" in habit is a bad habit, IMO.
Frank's cousin Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Well the nbanner should have read Wotte look behind me we are not all 16 year old kids, not Wotte out. Dont know, looked quite young to me, but then I am 39...;-(
Frank's cousin Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Well the nbanner should have read Wotte look behind me we are not all 16 year old kids, not Wotte out. Dont know, looked quite young to me, but then I am 39...;-(
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 B*gg*r infraction points..............offer him on a free, he's just causes trouble, a wind up merchant. This was very cringeworthy to read. It was one away from saying "good engine" and "for me" when you talk.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 B*gg*r infraction points..............offer him on a free, he's just causes trouble, a wind up merchant. This was very cringeworthy to read. It was one away from saying "good engine" and "for me" when you talk.
solentstars Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Well the nbanner should have read Wotte look behind me we are not all 16 year old kids, not Wotte out. i think that silly banner made it look like the protest was about the manager instead of lowe. but good luck to all the protesters who made their march.
solentstars Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Well the nbanner should have read Wotte look behind me we are not all 16 year old kids, not Wotte out. i think that silly banner made it look like the protest was about the manager instead of lowe. but good luck to all the protesters who made their march.
Jack the Saint Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 the "wotta notte gotta clue" banner makes it all look embarassing he has more points than pearson so far after the same amount of games..(or at least the same) That guy was in the same year at school with me and he is the thickest **** I know.
Jack the Saint Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 the "wotta notte gotta clue" banner makes it all look embarassing he has more points than pearson so far after the same amount of games..(or at least the same) That guy was in the same year at school with me and he is the thickest **** I know.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Has anyone spotted the lesbian on the march?
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Has anyone spotted the lesbian on the march?
ericofarabia Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Were any 16 year olds spotted on the march? No :smt048 Here's why .... Hairy Todgered Hippos.
NickG Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Stand back and look at it from Wottes position.The first march there were definatley Wotte out chants and saturday the leading fans in the groupo had at least 2 placards against Wotte.He would rightly believe that that group were against him.Before you tell me he is too sensitive remember how the marchers got all precious when he dared to say about them. The fans in the ground were fantastic marchers and all.I went to the game in trepidation as i thought the anti lowe stuff would carry on in the ground, it didntr and so credit to those 'true' fans as well. not just that, the organiser of the protest said in the week (before Wotte criticised the march) that the protest was against his appointment -think it was silly decisions but the only one named was the appointment of Wotte.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 not just that, the organiser of the protest said in the week (before Wotte criticised the march) that the protest was against his appointment -think it was silly decisions but the only one named was the appointment of Wotte. What a dinlo.
bowers-sfc Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 i did think it was a bad appintmeant at first, because of the position we were in i thought we needed a manager with experiance in this division. as did many others say the same, but who knows? this may be the start of somthing and i really hope it is.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 i did think it was a bad appintmeant at first, because of the position we were in i thought we needed a manager with experiance in this division. as did many others say the same, but who knows? this may be the start of somthing and i really hope it is. Hmmm.
Window Cleaner Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 (edited) i did think it was a bad appintmeant at first, because of the position we were in i thought we needed a manager with experiance in this division. as did many others say the same, but who knows? this may be the start of somthing and i really hope it is. Sounds like what military people call a "preemptive strike".And the basis of Israeli foreign policy for the last 50 odd years. Edited 23 February, 2009 by Window Cleaner
NickG Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 i did think it was a bad appintmeant at first, because of the position we were in i thought we needed a manager with experiance in this division. as did many others say the same, but who knows? this may be the start of somthing and i really hope it is. was it you who made the comment that the protest was to get Crouch to replace Wilde/Lowe and to protest against silly decisions like Wotte being appointed?
This Charming Man Posted 24 February, 2009 Posted 24 February, 2009 I'm glad I stayed in the pub. As I predicted, the march was mainly attended by mongs.
Channon's Sideburns Posted 24 February, 2009 Posted 24 February, 2009 I'm glad I stayed in the pub. As I predicted, the march was mainly attended by mongs. Did I miss something? Have Askham and Richards changed sides????
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