Weston Super Saint Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 Has his curfew lifted. What are your thoughts on this 'special treatment'? Should we allow prisoners out of jail for their birthdays too, or are there really 'exceptions' to the law?
St Landrew Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 (edited) It may be special circumstances, but I think we can overlook this. I'd also like to think that people who are not celebrities, or not in the public gaze, would be treated similarly, but of course we'd be unlikely to hear of such special treatment, if it occurred. Being able to make special allowances under tragic circumstances is what makes the difference between decent people and stiff unfeeling jobworths. NB: Just been reading an article about Jade Goody, and it reminded me that CH4 notified her of her grave illness over broadcast TV. There was no real huge fuss made over this [ok, they were haulled over the coals a wee bit], and to me they've somehow managed to slip out of any moral responsibility there. Edited 20 February, 2009 by St Landrew
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 February, 2009 Author Posted 20 February, 2009 It may be special circumstances, but I think we can overlook this. I'd also like to think that people who are not celebrities, or not in the public gaze, would be treated similarly, but of course we'd be unlikely to hear of such special treatment, if it occurred. Being able to make special allowances under tragic circumstances is what makes the difference between decent people and stiff unfeeling jobworths. Do you honestly believe it would happen though? Also, where do you draw the line on what is a special circumstance and what isn't? Does it not make a mockery of what is already a mocked judiciary system?
Thedelldays Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 I think he was one of the most stupid people to have been on telly
richie Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 I work for Her Majesty's Court Service and have worked in lots of different courts. Although I think Tweed is a little ****, beating up a 16 year old with a golf club, driving whilst disqualified etc but this decision hasant been made because he is a celeb. It is very common for curfews to be lifted so people can go to weddings, funerals, visit sick relatives etc. Its not unusual for curfews to be lifted for people who had pre booked holidays prior to getting a tag! One lad at a court I worked at had his curfew hours changed so he could go rugby training as he was a county player! I think the right decision was made in this case.
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 February, 2009 Author Posted 20 February, 2009 I work for Her Majesty's Court Service and have worked in lots of different courts. Although I think Tweed is a little ****, beating up a 16 year old with a golf club, driving whilst disqualified etc but this decision hasant been made because he is a celeb. It is very common for curfews to be lifted so people can go to weddings, funerals, visit sick relatives etc. Its not unusual for curfews to be lifted for people who had pre booked holidays prior to getting a tag! One lad at a court I worked at had his curfew hours changed so he could go rugby training as he was a county player! I think the right decision was made in this case. Cheers. I didn't realise it was such a common occurrence.
richie Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 There are no set rules to this and its up to the discretion of a Judge or majistrate who will judge each case on its own merit.
Scudamore Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 NB: Just been reading an article about Jade Goody, and it reminded me that CH4 notified her of her grave illness over broadcast TV. There was no real huge fuss made over this [ok, they were haulled over the coals a wee bit], and to me they've somehow managed to slip out of any moral responsibility there. It was the Indian BB. I don't think C4 showed it.
saint_stevo Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 Seeing a thread about Jack Tweed had been started i knew it would be the compassion-less WSS that had started it. ASW.
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 February, 2009 Author Posted 20 February, 2009 Seeing a thread about Jack Tweed had been started i knew it would be the compassion-less WSS that had started it. ASW. And of course you can feel free to underline where I gave my opinion on the matter, rather than just ask a few questions....
Badger Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 I work for Her Majesty's Court Service and have worked in lots of different courts. Although I think Tweed is a little ****, beating up a 16 year old with a golf club, driving whilst disqualified etc but this decision hasant been made because he is a celeb. . Is he ? I had never heard of the b^stard until this current mania broke out.
Junction 9 Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 And of course you can feel free to underline where I gave my opinion on the matter, rather than just ask a few questions.... I think you made your opinions clear by the way you posed the question. What are they then? amaze me.
Jillyanne Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 He has done well imo. 1. - went to prison and split up with Jade 2. - got out of prison and proposed as it was announced the cancer was terminal 3. - marrying her and got his curfew lifted He is clearly hoping he will now be a beneficiary of her millions. I just hope her will leaves him nothing.
Mole Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 I think he was one of the most stupid people to have been on telly I take it from that comment you've never appeared on tv.
Jillyanne Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 I take it from that comment you've never appeared on tv.
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 February, 2009 Author Posted 20 February, 2009 He has done well imo. 1. - went to prison and split up with Jade 2. - got out of prison and proposed as it was announced the cancer was terminal 3. - marrying her and got his curfew lifted He is clearly hoping he will now be a beneficiary of her millions. I just hope her will leaves him nothing. He has a deal with OK magazine.
Weston Super Saint Posted 20 February, 2009 Author Posted 20 February, 2009 I think you made your opinions clear by the way you posed the question. What are they then? amaze me. Having heard from someone in 'the trade' that this is actually not as isolated as it would appear in the media, my opinion is 'fair play' to him. He didn't make the law, but if there are clauses in it to allow him to get married, have a holiday etc etc, then why should he be denied the opportunity that others get?
Badger Posted 20 February, 2009 Posted 20 February, 2009 He has done well imo. 1. - went to prison and split up with Jade 2. - got out of prison and proposed as it was announced the cancer was terminal 3. - marrying her and got his curfew lifted He is clearly hoping he will now be a beneficiary of her millions. I just hope her will leaves him nothing. Can't help thinking this circus is a publicity move on his part.Certainly won't do him any harm and yes,could be a payday in it as well.
L1Minus10 Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 People who previously hated Jade now feel sorry for her and the little Tweed **** is no different really. He's marrying her because she's dieing, which he would not be doing if she wasn't.
1976_Child Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 who the **** is jack tweed? seriously, never heard of him. Is he a football player?
Weston Super Saint Posted 21 February, 2009 Author Posted 21 February, 2009 who the **** is jack tweed? seriously, never heard of him. Is he a football player? 'Hello', if you buy 'OK' magazine, all will be 'Revealed', it's not just a 'Woman's Choice'.
saint boggy Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 People who previously hated Jade now feel sorry for her and the little Tweed **** is no different really. He's marrying her because she's dieing, which he would not be doing if she wasn't. tbf tho, lots of people get married BECAUSE they are terminally ill....i don't think this is anything to do with Jade being famous ..... and so what if people now feel sorry for her BECAUSE she is ill, i feel sorry for ANYONE who is dying....she is not a bad person, just a bit thick.......that's no reason to hate someone and be unfeeling towards them,is it?? and those who thought that Jack's curfew being lifted was "only coz he is in the media spotlight" (i won't say 'famous') really are out of touch.......
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 ....she is not a bad person, just a bit thick....... From her vitriolic racist comments towards Shilpa Shetty, I'd say that made her a bad person. IMO.
saint_stevo Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 Shilpa Poppodom isnt a vitriolic racist comment IMO
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 Shilpa Poppodom isnt a vitriolic racist comment IMO what about the comment that "her kind look dirty"...?
saint_stevo Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 what about the comment that "her kind look dirty"...? dont remember that one mate. I think with Jade though its more ignorance and niaevity(sp) than actual racism
Thedelldays Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 dont remember that one mate. I think with Jade though its more ignorance and niaevity(sp) than actual racism im sure that is the case with most people though
TopGun Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 (edited) I just worked out who Jack Tweed is. Personally I don't give a shyte as none of the upcoming moronic tabloid stuff will affect me. Neither do I buy Hello or OK. I could be on a submarine really. If it somehow does something for cancer research, then Goody has done something worthwhile, eventually. Edited 21 February, 2009 by TopGun
Evil Monkey Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 I work for Her Majesty's Court Service and have worked in lots of different courts. Although I think Tweed is a little ****, beating up a 16 year old with a golf club, driving whilst disqualified etc but this decision hasant been made because he is a celeb. It is very common for curfews to be lifted so people can go to weddings, funerals, visit sick relatives etc. Its not unusual for curfews to be lifted for people who had pre booked holidays prior to getting a tag! One lad at a court I worked at had his curfew hours changed so he could go rugby training as he was a county player! I think the right decision was made in this case. Thats like a parent grounding their child for a week, except for the evenings when he/she has plans.
hypochondriac Posted 21 February, 2009 Posted 21 February, 2009 im sure that is the case with most people though But it's a bit strong not to feel sorry for her being terminally ill.
saint boggy Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 From her vitriolic racist comments towards Shilpa Shetty, I'd say that made her a bad person. IMO. wow, it must be fabulous being as perfect as you!! ....
saint boggy Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 what about the comment that "her kind look dirty"...? dont remember that one mate. I think with Jade though its more ignorance and niaevity(sp) than actual racism no, me neither...... think you may be too quick to listen to idle gossip DD (unless of course you can prove your claim,that is), in which case i'll apologise......
saint boggy Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 I just worked out who Jack Tweed is. Personally I don't give a shyte as none of the upcoming moronic tabloid stuff will affect me. Neither do I buy Hello or OK. I could be on a submarine really. If it somehow does something for cancer research, then Goody has done something worthwhile, eventually. According to a radio news report i heard yesterday, GP's surgery have already seen a large increase in the number of women booking smear tests, so it has definately had a positive effect........(altho, why the hell women need a reminder like this in order to have a smear is beyond my comprehension, tbh!)....10 minutes out of your life could very well be enough to save it...........it's a no-brainer for me.....
Gemmel Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 From her vitriolic racist comments towards Shilpa Shetty, I'd say that made her a bad person. IMO. You seriously need to get a life, if thats what you think racisism is.
Thedelldays Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 no, me neither...... think you may be too quick to listen to idle gossip DD (unless of course you can prove your claim,that is), in which case i'll apologise...... i watched it on celeb BB...i was hooked that series...:smt048
Gingeletiss Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 He has done well imo. 1. - went to prison and split up with Jade 2. - got out of prison and proposed as it was announced the cancer was terminal 3. - marrying her and got his curfew lifted He is clearly hoping he will now be a beneficiary of her millions. I just hope her will leaves him nothing. Was he in prison for attacking a youth with a golf club???? He is marrying Jade Goodie???? Will this make him stepfather to her two boys??? Will he have parental control of them after she dies???? Is he a good role model???? This is a setup to make money...nothing more....nothing less imho of course.
saint boggy Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 Was he in prison for attacking a youth with a golf club???? He is marrying Jade Goodie???? Will this make him stepfather to her two boys??? Will he have parental control of them after she dies???? Is he a good role model???? This is a setup to make money...nothing more....nothing less imho of course. i doubt that he will have parental control of the kids.........their father will probably have custody, shared with her mum i expect. and even IF this is all about making money, so what??????.......i know if i was dying i would want to leave my kids with as much financial security as possible, wouldn't you????....and she does certainly does have clout when it comes to making money thru publicity......fair play to the girl..........
Jillyanne Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 i doubt that he will have parental control of the kids.........their father will probably have custody, shared with her mum i expect. and even IF this is all about making money, so what??????.......i know if i was dying i would want to leave my kids with as much financial security as possible, wouldn't you????....and she does certainly does have clout when it comes to making money thru publicity......fair play to the girl.......... I think the comment about making money was aimed at Jack not Jade, today is nothing more then a very large pay day for him, end of.
Gingeletiss Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 I think the comment about making money was aimed at Jack not Jade, today is nothing more then a very large pay day for him, end of. Bless xxxxx I did in fact mean him, as she is a millionairess in her own right, so I'm led to believe!!.
saint boggy Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 I think the comment about making money was aimed at Jack not Jade, today is nothing more then a very large pay day for him, end of. the sinic (sp) in me says that you MAY be right, however , my brother's friend was told she had 2 months to live (cancer) and so married her long term boyfriend and father of her 2 children...........there was no payday for them, so what was their motivation????......the romantic in me tells me that it is 'love'.........Jade and Jack may well be doing this for monetary reasons BUT i don't think they are doing this PURELY for the money ....
Weston Super Saint Posted 22 February, 2009 Author Posted 22 February, 2009 Can we please keep it on topic?
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 wow, it must be fabulous being as perfect as you!! .... You seriously need to get a life, if thats what you think racisism is. I'm nowhere near perfect but I deal with racism every day of my life, and what she said was racist and intended to offend. I feel sorry for her as much as I feel sorry for anyone young who is suffering a terminal illness, and I feel really sorry for the children who will have to grow up without their mother. But it doesn't stop me from thinking that she's an ignorant, racist oaf who has no right to be a "celebrity" and, quite frankly, I'm sick of all the fuss being made over such a non-entity. However, I agree with the poster(s) who said that if one person is helped by the attention being brought to breast cancer then something, however small, has been a benefit to her situation. There is a lot more going on in the world that we should be concerned with.
Badger Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 (edited) People who previously hated Jade now feel sorry for her and the little Tweed **** is no different really. He's marrying her because she's dieing, which he would not be doing if she wasn't. I doubt he would be marrying her if there was a real prospect of having to spend the next 40 years married to her thats for sure.Although like most underclass he'd probably just father another two kids before buggering off to do the same again elsewhere. Edited 22 February, 2009 by Badger
Gemmel Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 (edited) I'm nowhere near perfect but I deal with racism every day of my life, and what she said was racist and intended to offend. I feel sorry for her as much as I feel sorry for anyone young who is suffering a terminal illness, and I feel really sorry for the children who will have to grow up without their mother. But it doesn't stop me from thinking that she's an ignorant, racist oaf who has no right to be a "celebrity" and, quite frankly, I'm sick of all the fuss being made over such a non-entity. However, I agree with the poster(s) who said that if one person is helped by the attention being brought to breast cancer then something, however small, has been a benefit to her situation. There is a lot more going on in the world that we should be concerned with. I think the highlighted word proves your ignorance about the whole situation.You are obvioulsy an intelligent, articulate person, who has fallen into the "oh so politically correct brigade" and must be seen to be doing the right thng every time. Name calling isn't racist by itself. .... no different from calling someone bigears, dumbo, spotty, ginger etc. But i just know you wouln't get so upset for the spotty, fat, ginger, big eared kid, being called names Edited 22 February, 2009 by Gemmel
Mole Posted 22 February, 2009 Posted 22 February, 2009 From her vitriolic racist comments towards Shilpa Shetty, I'd say that made her a bad person. IMO. I'm glad you added "IMO" as i would expect your views are only representative of a small minority.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Cheers. I didn't realise it was such a common occurrence. Ronnie and Reggie Kray were let out to go to Violet's funeral.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 Cheers. I didn't realise it was such a common occurrence. Ronnie and Reggie Kray were let out to go to Violet's funeral.
PompeyLass Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 However, I agree with the poster(s) who said that if one person is helped by the attention being brought to breast cancer then something, however small, has been a benefit to her situation. I think you'll find it's actually cervical cancer.
PompeyLass Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 However, I agree with the poster(s) who said that if one person is helped by the attention being brought to breast cancer then something, however small, has been a benefit to her situation. I think you'll find it's actually cervical cancer.
Guest Dark Sotonic Mills Posted 23 February, 2009 Posted 23 February, 2009 I think you'll find it's actually cervical cancer. Yep, my bad. The principle is still the same regarding people being made aware though.
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