Channon's Sideburns Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 The vent of our spleen has always been aimed at the wrong person IMO. I think you have in principle got it right Farmer Lowe is just the front man who perhaps bravely (or stupidly) is taking the blame for others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plumstead_Saint Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 The vent of our spleen has always been aimed at the wrong person IMO. I think you have in principle got it right Farmer Bl**dy Hell Sounds like an idea that could unite/heal divisions in the fanbase? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Good start from Wiseman. Now lets see more people come out and tell the truth about Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capitalsaint Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 Good start from Wiseman. Now lets see more people come out and tell the truth about Lowe. before anyone gets the wrong idea and assumes i'm being pro-Lowe, i want to make it clear that it is good people are admitting how bad we are being run behind the scenes... BUT having come into contact with Wiseman in pre-Saints days, i really wouldn't pay much attention to him. Lowe might be pompous, but Wiseman is a terrible businessman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 before anyone gets the wrong idea and assumes i'm being pro-Lowe, i want to make it clear that it is good people are admitting how bad we are being run behind the scenes... BUT having come into contact with Wiseman in pre-Saints days, i really wouldn't pay much attention to him. Lowe might be pompous, but Wiseman is a terrible businessman. We're not bothered about Wiseman's business though are we? Just SFC. I think he may be saying this to distance himslef from any blame he may share too... but doesnt matter. What matters is the now and that more people start to tell the truth more openly about Lowe's ineptitude. We can't risk Lowe being permitted to take this club over during administration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 “What other Chief Executive of a public company would be able to remain in office as a minority shareholder only, with a share price going through the floor and well over 50 per cent of the ‘customers’ for the product on offer abandoning their support? " For all Wiseman's fault, who can argue with this statement? It is unbelievable there are still people supporting Lowe, by any business or sporting measuement, his second spell has been a complete and utter disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 “What other Chief Executive of a public company would be able to remain in office as a minority shareholder only, with a share price going through the floor and well over 50 per cent of the ‘customers’ for the product on offer abandoning their support? " For all Wiseman's fault, who can argue with this statement? It is unbelievable there are still people supporting Lowe, by any business or sporting measuement, his second spell has been a complete and utter disaster. Which makes me ask WHY? There's something behind the scenes that is going to benefit those who deserve it least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 “What other Chief Executive of a public company would be able to remain in office as a minority shareholder only, with a share price going through the floor and well over 50 per cent of the ‘customers’ for the product on offer abandoning their support? " For all Wiseman's fault, who can argue with this statement? It is unbelievable there are still people supporting Lowe, by any business or sporting measurement, his second spell has been a complete and utter disaster. But that paragraph is not correct.It does not take into account the damage done during his break in tenure. Please do not fall for the thought that the Wilde bunch and what followed has nothing to do with our financial problems and so the ones that then go onto the pitch. And yes, before Um says the major financial loss is down to being relegated, that is true but a fifth of teams go through that in the Pl every year, only a few are fireproof from that. You should react as things and conditions are at the time.Wilde bunch and what followed did not do so. I wonder how Askham views the outburst, after all I think I am right in saying it was him who invited KW onto the cosy closed shop that was our directors box in the first place Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 I wonder how Askham views the outburst, after all I think I am right in saying it was him who invited KW onto the cosy closed shop that was our directors box in the first place That's a view I'd like to hear. But, we wont. Afterall, he's stitched Lowe up to take the flak. Askham is the real mastermind of this whole debacle, he has gained the most through the plc. We wont hear from Askham... he's not as stupid as Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PAULACZT Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 That's a view I'd like to hear. But, we wont. Afterall, he's stitched Lowe up to take the flak. Askham is the real mastermind of this whole debacle, he has gained the most through the plc. We wont hear from Askham... he's not as stupid as Lowe. The main supporter of Lowe throughout the whole sorry debacle of his time as Chairman/DOF has been ASKHAM. He is faceless backbencher who time and again supports a regime devoid of successful footballing ideals and wallowing in a PR mess, making our once popular club the laughing stock of English football. ASKHAM was the original proposer of the reverse takeover...ASKHAM the person who stood down to hand the reigns to Lowe and therefore begin the decline...and before anyone mentions the Stadium,the catering,the academy etc., when he took aver we were in the Premier League and now we look like we are going down to where Ted started off all those years ago!! That is decline for you!! Look at his quotes at the time..30th April 1997.."In handing over to Rupert the club is in safe hands and we look forward to establishing ourselves as the Premier club in the south"...(we already were!!) Lowe 39, arrived at the Dell riding pillion on his friend Andrew Cowans motorbike... riding pillion with Andrew...I knew they were close but not that close! ASKHAM...where are you now you faceless wimp...come out and tell us what you think of this sorry mess you have got the club into....or are you just going to carry on riding pillion with Rupert??! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Paul Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 But that paragraph is not correct.It does not take into account the damage done during his break in tenure. Please do not fall for the thought that the Wilde bunch and what followed has nothing to do with our financial problems and so the ones that then go onto the pitch. And yes, before Um says the major financial loss is down to being relegated, that is true but a fifth of teams go through that in the Pl every year, only a few are fireproof from that. You should react as things and conditions are at the time.Wilde bunch and what followed did not do so. Why has the share price fallen through the floor since his return then? Surely if you're right, people will have faith that now Lowe is back to cler "other's mess up" they would rise or at least stay stable.The share price is the city's judgement on the present and future sucsess of the Company. Why are attendances down? Surely if people had faith in Lowe "clearing up other's mess" they'd return? Which business or sporting measuement can you judge Lowe's second spell as a sucsess? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 The main supporter of Lowe throughout the whole sorry debacle of his time as Chairman/DOF has been ASKHAM. He is faceless backbencher who time and again supports a regime devoid of successful footballing ideals and wallowing in a PR mess, making our once popular club the laughing stock of English football. ASKHAM was the original proposer of the reverse takeover...ASKHAM the person who stood down to hand the reigns to Lowe and therefore begin the decline...and before anyone mentions the Stadium,the catering,the academy etc., when he took aver we were in the Premier League and now we look like we are going down to where Ted started off all those years ago!! That is decline for you!! Look at his quotes at the time..30th April 1997.."In handing over to Rupert the club is in safe hands and we look forward to establishing ourselves as the Premier club in the south"...(we already were!!) Lowe 39, arrived at the Dell riding pillion on his friend Andrew Cowans motorbike... riding pillion with Andrew...I knew they were close but not that close! ASKHAM...where are you now you faceless wimp...come out and tell us what you think of this sorry mess you have got the club into....or are you just going to carry on riding pillion with Rupert??! I will do some digging on Askham.....should be interesting.... Trousers P.I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 I will do some digging on Askham.....should be interesting.... Trousers P.I. Go to it Trousers P I. Askham has hidden in the shadows for far too long. Who's Ray The Turk, btw..? Congratulations to Keith Wiseman.. He's come down on the side of the every day fan. At last some-one with a bit of clout knows what this is all about. While Rupert and co continue to struggle. with accounts, (the books) they somehow juggle. Board members it seems have ruined our dreams. They have stood by and toyed.. as our Club gets destroyed. Today is the time to step out with pride.. Show every-one your colours.. support your side. The board should be ashamed.. they have all sat and and sided with Rupert Lowe and what he decided. Fair play to you Keith. you've come out at last.. Youve given Rupert a nudge.. you've given a blast. With men like you on our side.. and a fan base like this.. We can tell Rupert Lowe.. "STOP TAKING THE P@@S.!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 21 February, 2009 Share Posted 21 February, 2009 not another Ted Bates Statue surely ! Best thing i have read on this site for ages hahah Class Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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