Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 http://homesforheroesuk.co.uk/index.html good idea IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 100% great idea. Proper recognition of the sterling work the services do on our behalf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barney Trubble Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 100% great idea. Proper recognition of the sterling work the services do on our behalf. I watched a programme on Sky news a few weeks ago. One of those documentary type programmes with a sky reporter/news team I was shocked to see what poor equipment that our troops were given. I'm sure they had three vehicles break down, one permanently and the engineers didn't have the correct tools to fix common mechanical problems. The gunners guns constantly got jammed as they were not suitable for the terrain and when the Taliban fought openly with them they had men shot because of this.......I thought to myself "**** that for a living". I was amazed at how vulnerable that our troops were due to not having correct tools/equipment. The programme was called 'The Pathfinders', think that was the name of their regiment and it was on SKY, if you get chance to see it, watch it. On the basis of that alone, I support the scheme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Baj Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 I don't pretend to know or care a great deal about the forces, but it seems to me that our government is unable to equip the brave people who fight on the orders of our government properly, so they have to rely on purchasing or being supplied extra equipment from family and friends, and then when the do finally return home, hopefully in one piece and without either a ****ed up head or illnesses from whatever **** they were injected with, they still have to rely on schemes like this for support. If our government were seen to actually back up their military plans with adequate facilities, maybe they could help chip away at a little bit of that behemoth of hatred that their voters currently feel for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2009 I don't pretend to know or care a great deal about the forces, but it seems to me that our government is unable to equip the brave people who fight on the orders of our government properly, so they have to rely on purchasing or being supplied extra equipment from family and friends, and then when the do finally return home, hopefully in one piece and without either a ****ed up head or illnesses from whatever **** they were injected with, they still have to rely on schemes like this for support. If our government were seen to actually back up their military plans with adequate facilities, maybe they could help chip away at a little bit of that behemoth of hatred that their voters currently feel for them. true...been on about this for ages....in a way it has always been a case but the recent conflicts have highlighted it.. trouble is, where does the money come from...I have always said, stop giving out hand outs to every tom **** and abdul that wants pitch up here and give EXTRA to the front line...but then you will be called a racist or something Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amesbury Saint Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 the sunday mirror has been running a campaign for homes for heroes http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/01/10/home-for-heroes-help-war-veterans-abandoned-on-our-streets-115875-21031108/ Also a new project for homeless ex Service Personnel opened last week in Plymouth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Getting treated like s**t to do one of the hardest jobs going whilst on s**t money? I'm in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Army Front Line = Chavs with no GCSE's Oh no. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Army Front Line = Chavs with no GCSE's Some perhaps, but at least they are trying to better themselves if they are, and Chav or not they have my respect for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Army Front Line = Chavs with no GCSE's You really do talk out of your arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special K Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 To be fair to the Government, at least they are doing something. We do a small amount of work for this lot http://www.aspiredefence.co.uk/ and they have got a long term programme over 35 years. So far we have done some refurbs for them. The end product is good, but their existing facilities from housing to warehouses was generally very poor as a result of years of under-investment, chiefly by Tory governments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Getting treated like s**t to do one of the hardest jobs going whilst on s**t money? I'm in. only the mongs in the intfantry are on crap money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 true...been on about this for ages....in a way it has always been a case but the recent conflicts have highlighted it.. trouble is, where does the money come from...I have always said, stop giving out hand outs to every tom **** and abdul that wants pitch up here and give EXTRA to the front line...but then you will be called a racist or something The correct saying is Tom, **** and Harry. You have chosen to use the name Abdul, with it's obviously racial connotations. If you are called a racist, which you are acting like, then don't cry about it. Meanwhile, apart from your Freudian slip, I agree with your sentiments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 The correct saying is Tom, **** and Harry. You have chosen to use the name Abdul, with it's obviously racial connotations. If you are called a racist, which you are acting like, then don't cry about it. Meanwhile, apart from your Freudian slip, I agree with your sentiments. Why is using the name Abdul in the same context as Tom, Richard and Harry racist? It simply allows for a fairer representation of the diversity that occurs in all areas of modern british society as far as I can see. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 True.......it shoud be 'every Tom....Shang Kow Sung...and Abdul'. Christ, open your mouth about anything, and you're decried as a racist. What ever happened to free speech!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scott_saints Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 True.......it shoud be 'every Tom....Shang Kow Sung...and Abdul'. Christ, open your mouth about anything, and you're decried as a racist. What ever happened to free speech!! It never existed. HTH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 The correct saying is Tom, **** and Harry. You have chosen to use the name Abdul, with it's obviously racial connotations. If you are called a racist, which you are acting like, then don't cry about it. Meanwhile, apart from your Freudian slip, I agree with your sentiments. by excluding the "abduls" I am excluding a part of the UK... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 by excluding the "abduls" I am excluding a part of the UK... Your version of the common place expression was a more up to date version and gave a much clearer idea od what "every" could mean in this instance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 S13SFC posted the folowing Army Front Line = Chavs with no GCSE's Care to say that to my face or some of my mates who recently have returned from Afghan mush? Tosser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 I LOVE people sho say "say it to my face". Draganov, just use words to argue with him instead of threats that make you look like the person he is implying. It's not a hard allegation to refute with logic or common sense, to be fair. Shane, at the end of the day, while some pongos are morons, I respect them for having some ambition or engagement in a career, one that is ****ing demanding. Better than the oiks who are still smoking too much green and robbing houses at the age of 22. I mean, **** off and die. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Army Front Line = Chavs with no GCSE's Stupid comment if ever there was one. It takes more than a GCSE to be brave enough to do what they do. Are you just trying to be insulting on purpose? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 S13SFC posted the folowing Army Front Line = Chavs with no GCSE's Care to say that to my face or some of my mates who recently have returned from Afghan mush? Tosser It takes an idiot to reply to this comment imho - 'hook line and sinker' spring to mind, why challenge someone you have never met? This is an internet forum after all, christ, get over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 TBF my friend has just returned from Afghanistan and by the end he was getting very annoyed with the moronic chav thugs in his unit. They took the **** out of him because he was studying to be a pilot and was generally as thick as two short planks and considered violence to be the answer to everything. I'm sure that's not true for everyone though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 TBF my friend has just returned from Afghanistan and by the end he was getting very annoyed with the moronic chav thugs in his unit. They took the **** out of him because he was studying to be a pilot and was generally as thick as two short planks and considered violence to be the answer to everything. I'm sure that's not true for everyone though. to be fair...those "thugs" are what parts of the front line need Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 to be fair...those "thugs" are what parts of the front line need I thought you would say that but seriously they were utter mindless ******s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 I thought you would say that but seriously they were utter mindless ******s. probably were...you need some of this sort to do the job though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 So then you could say that S13SFC is at least partially correct then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 (edited) So then you could say that S13SFC is at least partially correct then. yes...clearly not all are like that but to do the job they do you are bound to get some nutters... even in what I do (which is a technical job) you get a few mongs that slip through so the chances of them being in the infantry are pretty high Edited 16 February, 2009 by Thedelldays Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Army Front Line = Chavs with no GCSE's Do you or have you enjoyed your time on the Army front line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 yes...clearly not all are like that but to do the job they do you are bound to get some nutters... even in what I do (which is a technical job) you get a few mongs that slip through so the chances of them being in the infantry are pretty high It's not just infantry who serve on the frontline, you also have marines, tankies, artillery, medics, logistics, REME, Signallers, engineers, RMP, air force, army air corps, intelligence and naval air squadron operating in Afghanistan and most of these will be highly educated people who can be nutters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 It's not just infantry who serve on the frontline, you also have marines, tankies, artillery, medics, logistics, REME, Signallers, engineers, RMP, air force, army air corps, intelligence and naval air squadron operating in Afghanistan and most of these will be highly educated people who can be nutters. i know...i was refering to the mongs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 i know...i was refering to the mongs So who are the mongs you speak of? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 The people my friend had to serve wih Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 The people my friend had to serve wih Are you referring to my post? If so what is a mong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hamster Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Do not agree with the perceived sentiment of S13's post, but front line lads are universally referred to as "Cannon Fodder" or "Stretcher Bearers" (ergo - expendable). I don't think he intended to offend. Note: I do know what it feels like to not know whether my Dad would be coming home from a tour of duty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 I just watched Digby Jones (Lord) on his 'Jobs Search' program on tele. There is this lad, 19 years old, just lost his job at Nissan. Honest to God, if I was him I would join the Army. Good pay, good mates and you get to shoot people. Ok, a bit flippant, but why not? If I had my time again and I was 19 and this ****ing Brown-induced depression came my way I would sign up. Must be better than signing on every week... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skintsaint Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Must be better than signing on every week... I watched that Ross Kemp in Afghanistan last night and I would rather sign on than go through what those lads are doing. Then again im too old for that running around, getting shot at malarky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viking Warrior Posted 17 February, 2009 Share Posted 17 February, 2009 Robsk and Jillyane I take your point re It takes an idiot to reply to this comment imho What I was trying to imply was that if he met me or some of my mates who have recently come back from Afghan he would find out that they are not a bunch of chavs which he was clearly implying. A lot of the people he is referring to have come back with serious injuries, limbless , blind, paraplegic etc. his comments did offend me as it would any other servicemen. At the time of responding, I was annoyed with what he said and it probably did come across as aggressive. but if he saw what my role was ( I have just retired )and my colleagues do in the services , then if he had any sense he wouldnt post such crap. By the way if you want to have an indication of what my mates do and what I did then I suggest you watch the Doctors and nurses documentary on itv Its about medics in afghan. An idiot Im not but somebody sticking up for servicemen then I put my hand up to that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 Regardless of your opinions on this war, or war generally, or pongos, any other forces - it's downright idiotic not to have human respect for what they do and sympathy for what they lose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 18 February, 2009 Share Posted 18 February, 2009 Regardless of your opinions on this war, or war generally, or pongos, any other forces - it's downright idiotic not to have human respect for what they do and sympathy for what they lose. Exactly. When I was in the RAF I lost my KFS and water bottle and nobody gave a *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robsk II Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Knock the ****s out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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