Saint_Jonny Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Balls to you lot, ill go whenever possible. Dont give a toss whos running the "buisness". Ill be there at the start of the revival, while you lot sit on your hands wingeing about lowe and doing a ghey walk away from the ground protest everyweek that means **** all to the moron in charge. Southampton til' I die Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jillyanne Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Away games only same as this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ItchenRob Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Balls to you lot, ill go whenever possible. Dont give a toss whos running the "buisness". Ill be there at the start of the revival, while you lot sit on your hands wingeing about lowe and doing a ghey walk away from the ground protest everyweek that means **** all to the moron in charge. Southampton til' I die Agree 100%. If this question had been asked 20 years ago people would have thought you were a bit odd having this as a reason for not going. Having said that the last day that Lowe and Wilde (in particular) are involved with Saints in any shape or form will be a day for celebration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 15 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Balls to you lot, ill go whenever possible. Dont give a toss whos running the "buisness". Ill be there at the start of the revival, while you lot sit on your hands wingeing about lowe and doing a ghey walk away from the ground protest everyweek that means **** all to the moron in charge. Southampton til' I die you think theres going to be one? :drinkers: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Look - for all of you that want a better future, please realise that it will not come unless SLH PLC is deconstructed. That means administration. To obtain administration does not mean giving up supporting the team - quite the opposite actually, as it will bring new life to the club. In fact, it probably does not mean staying away permanently - it just means delaying buying an ST until later. When I bought my ST last year it was with a little hope that Pearson would be able to carry on his work of rebuilding the team and the club as a whole. We still had the likes of Rasiak, John and Davies. I say again - we had some hope and some direction and it did not matter that Lowe was back. So I bought my ST early, but then of course very soon found out that my faith in the club had been in vain, as with Pearson and all the players that scored the goals gone, I had been royally shafted by Lowe and Wilde. I am not going to be shafted again by these poor examples of failed businessmen. I will not be renewing my ST until AFTER March Madness/Early Bird and if that has not produced some form of change at the club, then I will not renew atall. After all, I am the customer and the customer is ALWAYS KING! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
instinct Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 I love saints and would support them whatever division they are in, grew up in northampton so used to watching lower league football (yes, im a plastic saints fan, hardly a glory hunter tho!) But not sure if I'd want to go any more whilst Lowe and Wilde are in charge, might start going to Eastleigh or Sailsbury games instead till they are gone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 No. Lowe is about to lead Saints to their lowest point not in 27 years as he had before... but now the lowest in 49 years. What's more we havent finished falling under him. Once our better players leave as a result of his marginalising policies we can expect to go straight to League 2. He has to leave for good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alehouseboys Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 i dont think i will renew my 4 season tickets but it will be [/b]a hard decision for me to stay away so i expect i will attend.i go to watch the footie and try to enjoy it and this is a hard habit to break after 40 years but if an organised 'stay away' was arranged i would stand shoulder to shoulder with the rest of you for the cause. ...but the reality is you'll probably find it easier to stay away than you imagine. Our seats were taken away last year when they closed the corners so we decided it wasn't worth renewing and the hassle of picking new seats as we'd easily just get tickets week by week. But after being an almost ever-present at home games for nearly 40 years it's shocked me how easy it is to miss a game. THAT gutless display at fartton set the rot in for me, Lowe coming back topped it off. I look forward to rekindling the passion for my club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 See, this is what makes me laugh. Because we boycott the club, you claim we 'hate one man more than they care about the club'........this is pure B*llsh*t. I care about the club, hence my boycott aimed at forcing Lowe out. We can all spin this whichever way we want. Genuine question: Imagine next season - whichever league we are in - Lowe is still there, and Wotte, but we get off to a flier and are top by October, (unlikely I know) but will you continue to boycott the club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Genuine question: Imagine next season - whichever league we are in - Lowe is still there, and Wotte, but we get off to a flier and are top by October, (unlikely I know) but will you continue to boycott the club? of course not.. if we were top now we would have 25k plus most weeks and alot more other weeks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 of course not.. if we were top now we would have 25k plus most weeks and alot more other weeks Exactly - its a results orientated business is football right? Doesn't matter how you dress it up, there are two things that are keeping this club down and will continue to drive it further down...(a) lack of investment due to PLC status and... (b) Lowe's continued poor managerial choices. Results are not likely to change without sorting these things out. DO NOT RENEW ST's = LOSS OF PLC = RETURNING FANS = BETTER FINANCES = BETTER MANAGEMENT/PLAYERS = RENEWED HOPE = UNITED CLUB = SUCCESS etc etc. (apologies for my continued campaign message!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Genuine question: Imagine next season - whichever league we are in - Lowe is still there, and Wotte, but we get off to a flier and are top by October, (unlikely I know) but will you continue to boycott the club? This is difficult to answer...........asked now, my answer remains the same, I will not attend whilst Lowe is in charge, and continues to treat the fans of this club the way he does. Given his track record, I cannot see this:- but we get off to a flier and are top by October, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Genuine question: Imagine next season - whichever league we are in - Lowe is still there, and Wotte, but we get off to a flier and are top by October, (unlikely I know) but will you continue to boycott the club? Man, you really are f**king deluding yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Exactly - its a results orientated business is football right? Doesn't matter how you dress it up, there are two things that are keeping this club down and will continue to drive it further down...(a) lack of investment due to PLC status and... (b) Lowe's continued poor managerial choices. Results are not likely to change without sorting these things out. DO NOT RENEW ST's = LOSS OF PLC = RETURNING FANS = BETTER FINANCES = BETTER MANAGEMENT/PLAYERS = RENEWED HOPE = UNITED CLUB = SUCCESS etc etc. (apologies for my continued campaign message!) i get the gist but I will eat my own feet if tomorrow 5k more fans decided to go just on the fact we are no longer a PLC.. I will go further to say that most fan could not give a flying if we are a PLC..as long as we win and as long as lowe goes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 i get the gist but I will eat my own feet if tomorrow 5k more fans decided to go just on the fact we are no longer a PLC.. I will go further to say that most fan could not give a flying if we are a PLC..as long as we win and as long as lowe goes Most fans are more intelligent than you and recognise that the clubs PLC status is a millstone around our necks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Most fans are more intelligent than you and recognise that the clubs PLC status is a millstone around our necks. ok then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St. Jason Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 (edited) Its a difficult question because who is really prepared to turn their back on the own club because of the board? it would be like letting them win! I actually don't think I could face seeing Lowe's smug grin in league one :mad: I will probably still go but I'll pick and choose but definitely will not renew my 2 season tickets, not even if they slash the prices! I will renew both tickets if Lowe & Wilde were to sell up and leave, not sure I'd renew if they simply left as they could use their shares to come back, out and out for good! Edited 15 February, 2009 by St. Jason Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rooster Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 i will renew my ticket in any division if lowe is gone-if he is still there i will not renew even if they where going up to the premiership-thats how strong i feel-sad but the truth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
70's Mike Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 the decision whether to renew our 3 season tickets will be a) easy with regards my 14 year old son , he cannot be arsed to go any more b) in balance for my 21 year old son , he wants to be loyal but has only ever known top flight football and hope until this season, he gets so up tight at home games i do not think he can be bothered to continue to put himself in a bad mood on a saturday night c) me 47 years of support, season ticket since they introduced terrace season tickets at the dell, home and away every game in late 70's early 80's.beaten up at Tottenham in late 60's. I have parts of my sons reasons but the thought of not caring anymore is hard, it was a dark day when guy the snake introduced rupert to the club. and before anyone says it , yes i was there in 2003, and along with many others would have loved to see lowe go then let alone now, the dislike of the man for me and many older fans has never gone away, he has constantly belittled the fans and the day he called me a customer or was it a klingon, started the rot and destroyed the loyalty factor at SFC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MOSaint. Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 I'll still go, no matter what league we're in... But I'll be ****ed if I'll buy a season ticket and give them all my money in one go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 I'll still go, no matter what league we're in... But I'll be ****ed if I'll buy a season ticket and give them all my money in one go... I agree with you (shocker I know)..I would take that stance if I still lived in southampton... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Its a difficult question because who is really prepared to turn their back on the own club because of the board? it would be like letting them win! why ? which positions will they be playing ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperm_john Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 imo all the people saying they wont go next year because of lowe or wild are sh 1t fans, dont go for real reasons, like your busy or cant afford it, not because of the board, your team are your team, you support them whatever league we are in for whatever reasons we are there, otherwise you may as well go and be a manure fan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
L1Minus10 Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Deffo no season ticket for me next year unless they're gone. Will struggle with not oging at all but without the St I guess that other things will crop up and I won't go to many. for example, if I had the choice of SMS or and Englland Rugby international on the telly, rugby wins Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 How do you go about getting a ST refund now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gingeletiss Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 imo all the people saying they wont go next year because of lowe or wild are sh 1t fans, dont go for real reasons, like your busy or cant afford it, not because of the board, your team are your team, you support them whatever league we are in for whatever reasons we are there, otherwise you may as well go and be a manure fan Well Spunky......you are of course entitled to your opinion, but at the grand old age of 55, and having supported them since I was a wee lad, don't come on here spouting of about sh*te fans, because many like me have paid our dues, and in our own little way, helped this club grow. One man has destroyed that, and I and many others have had enougth. When he go's we return...............now then,how long have you been supporting Saints????, that is a genuine question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huffton Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 imo all the people saying they wont go next year because of lowe or wild are sh 1t fans, dont go for real reasons, like your busy or cant afford it, not because of the board, your team are your team, you support them whatever league we are in for whatever reasons we are there, otherwise you may as well go and be a manure fan Superdoopa fan alert!!!1111!!!1! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StuRomseySaint Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Not a chance, not whilst Lowe and Wilde are there. Lowe + Wilde still there = I will take the opportunity to swap watching footy for playing footy on a Sunday afternoon, whilst doing the decent away games, I doubt I will enter SMS more than 5 times next season. Lowe + Wilde gone = I will renew as normal. Enough is enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daren W Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 imo all the people saying they wont go next year because of lowe or wild are sh 1t fans, dont go for real reasons, like your busy or cant afford it, not because of the board, your team are your team, you support them whatever league we are in for whatever reasons we are there, otherwise you may as well go and be a manure fan Nothing like attracting attention is there? First of all, after 5 years of gross mismanagement, at what stage do fans say enough is enough? Two relegations in 4 years? Is that enough? It's our loyalty that unfortunately is being used against us. The problem here is that the club is taking advantage of that loyalty and abusing it. I have been saying for years that when Sky glamourised football and turned it into an"entertainment business" then we lost something. The club took the best bits of the "entertainment business" ie the costs and mixed it with the worst bits of old football, ie treating fans like cattle and contempt, whilst removing the best bits, ie being able to stand and get involved. Now if the club wants to be an entertainment business, they should try keeping it's customers happy. The phrase "The customer is always right" should be tattooed on some people's foreheads as they seek to treat people who have paid the equivilent of a west end theatre ticket for a game of football, like a piece of crap. What we should all do is not renew but go game by game and see how they like that. They know they've got 9,000 guaranteed tickets already paid for and it's that arrogant conceit that they know they've got at least 9,000 customers paying for a product in advance. But imagine if that money came week by week, game by game? That would hit them in the only place they care about... Their wallets... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintDonkey Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Saints is far more than Lowe, and while it riles having him in the boardroom it's the lads on the pitch I go to support. Having said that it looks like I could be out of a job soon so maybe I'll be joining a boycott whether I like it or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineteen Canteen Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 What we should all do is not renew but go game by game and see how they like that. They know they've got 9,000 guaranteed tickets already paid for and it's that arrogant conceit that they know they've got at least 9,000 customers paying for a product in advance. But imagine if that money came week by week, game by game? QUOTE] I would imagine we won't have a club left to support and its arrogant and conceited to suggest otherwise. Some people find it difficult to understand why some fans will buy season tickets regardless of the fact Lowe is our chairman, we are a PLC, we have been relegated once, etc. They buy the ticket because they are Saints supporters and it's cheaper for them to buy a ST and a lot less hassle to buy a ticket for every game. Also let's not forget for some they enjoy sitting in the same seat with the same like minded supporters they have sat with for years. As regards to your comments about standing and being part of the game, unfortunately times change and you can hardly blame the board of SFC for implementing these rule changes. Open terraces? Could that not be argued as treating fans like cattle and not providing some basic comforts although it would increase the club's proft margin. I think I pay about the equivalent of £17 a game with my season ticket now its been a while since i saw a show in the West End or in Southampton for that matter but I would imagine for £17 you'd be struggling to get into to a Saturday matinee for the least popular show in town. Would you like the club to have a facility to place a pre-order for your half time beer as you leave your concrete terrace and pay £6 for the privilege? You can hardly blame the club or any other for the influence of Sky and their money and its simply not true they have treated the paying customer with contempt otherwise we would not receive offers like the March madness that even in this league has represented good value for money and enabled the club to offset their borrowing costs. If we had maintained crowds c.25k post relegation as a minimum then perhaps you would have a point but it remains that many fans old and new will only pay to watch Premeirship football or critical games hence the sell out for the last game last season and the recent Man U cup game. For most season ticket holders that is the real mystery. I'm, afraid you have a rather romantic notion of being a football supporter harking back to the days of interesting headwear and ties on the terraces of the fifties or something altogether more sinister of the 1980's. We need to be a bit more realistic and pragmatic in our beliefs and how they can be best achieved and also factual. I've backed plenty of 4/9 favs in my time to know its not over by a long chalk with 14 games to go and plenty of opportunities to get those 6 wins based on the last few games. So that'll be just the one relegation and 2 years of gross mis-management after which the past 9 months like them or loathe them it seems the board have tried to be innovative and tough to tackle some serious problems. I don't care much for Lowe or Crouch but I do prefer any communication from them to treat me with a degree of respect and intelligence and prefer Lowe's blunt but believable style to Crouch's fables and false promises. At the moment I think Lowe's silence is deafening in terms of where the club is at and prefer what I suspect we would be getting from Crouch in the same circumstances some bluff about being 20pts off challenging for a play off spot, investment is 3, 6 or 9 months away. So what are the real reasons for not renewing your ST and encouranging others not do so? ON another note not related to your post can I just say this notion of a 'British' manager is ridiculous, jingoistic, racist and is some kind of myopic and parochial nationalistic nonsense. Roberto Martinez at Swansea - I don't suppose many of us would turn him away? Seriously, the connatation being implied is offensive and says more about those who support Stanley's comments as being people who seem intent on creating trouble or are not taking care in what they post. A British manager is an entirely different call than a manager with experience in British leagues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 ON another note not related to your post can I just say this notion of a 'British' manager is ridiculous, jingoistic, racist and is some kind of myopic and parochial nationalistic nonsense. Roberto Martinez at Swansea - I don't suppose many of us would turn him away? Seriously, the connatation being implied is offensive and says more about those who support Stanley's comments as being people who seem intent on creating trouble or are not taking care in what they post. A British manager is an entirely different call than a manager with experience in British leagues. Lowe once stood for the Referendum Party - the forerunner to UKIP. Would you describe Lowes political beliefs as "myopic and parochial nationalist nonsense"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SimonRichards Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Myself and 5 friends are not renewing our season tickets and will only attend away matches next season if those clowns are still at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 What we should all do is not renew but go game by game and see how they like that. They know they've got 9,000 guaranteed tickets already paid for and it's that arrogant conceit that they know they've got at least 9,000 customers paying for a product in advance. But imagine if that money came week by week, game by game? QUOTE] I would imagine we won't have a club left to support and its arrogant and conceited to suggest otherwise. And that is the whole point. The boycott of ST sales is to force Lowe and the Quisling out of the club. IMO it is too late to take that action. The boycott needs to be now. If the board don't capitulate quickly and the club therefore goes into administration, Lowe, Wilde and the other shareholders lose the value of their shares. That is the incentive for them to go quickly and let somebody else run the club. At that point, the boycott can be ended, many will return and the ST sales can return to normal.With luck, there will still be time to save the club from administration, but as I say, that will depend on Lowe and Wilde going quickly. Some people find it difficult to understand why some fans will buy season tickets regardless of the fact Lowe is our chairman, we are a PLC, we have been relegated once, etc. They buy the ticket because they are Saints supporters and it's cheaper for them to buy a ST and a lot less hassle to buy a ticket for every game. Also let's not forget for some they enjoy sitting in the same seat with the same like minded supporters they have sat with for years. I didn't renew our two tickets for this season when I knew that Lowe and the Quisling would be returning. I have no problem sitting either near, or indeed in the same seats. And I have the advantage that although the tickets cost more, if I have some other pressing engagement or holiday, I can forego the game and save £48. --------------------- I think I pay about the equivalent of £17 a game with my season ticket now its been a while since i saw a show in the West End or in Southampton for that matter but I would imagine for £17 you'd be struggling to get into to a Saturday matinee for the least popular show in town. Would you like the club to have a facility to place a pre-order for your half time beer as you leave your concrete terrace and pay £6 for the privilege? If you go to the theatre to see a show, you expect that you will see top professional actors. You might reasonably be upset if the experienced cast had been replaced by their understudies who noboby had heard of. I imagine that you also expect to be sat on plush velvet seats in a temperature controlled environment. You pay the price from time to time often as a special treat and if you are upset with what you get from the theatre, you make up your mind not to go there again until they address the issues that made you disgruntled. But then the theatres and restaurants realise this and never take their customer base for granted, as they do not have the "fan" element to rely on. You can hardly blame the club or any other for the influence of Sky and their money and its simply not true they have treated the paying customer with contempt otherwise we would not receive offers like the March madness that even in this league has represented good value for money and enabled the club to offset their borrowing costs. They don't do it because they love us. They do it because they need our money to tide them over during the closed season in the summer. Simple as that. But as you have introduced value for money as a topic, do you really think that paying the same as when we were in the Premiership represents good value for money, when we are playing in the division below with journeyman players or kids? If we had maintained crowds c.25k post relegation as a minimum then perhaps you would have a point but it remains that many fans old and new will only pay to watch Premeirship football or critical games hence the sell out for the last game last season and the recent Man U cup game. For most season ticket holders that is the real mystery. It might indeed be possible to have maintained those attendances with a chairman and board that respected the fans and introduced pricing policies that encouraged higher attendances. Also helpful to have a manager who knew what he was doing so that they were served up the occasional win to bolster confidence. I'm, afraid you have a rather romantic notion of being a football supporter harking back to the days of interesting headwear and ties on the terraces of the fifties or something altogether more sinister of the 1980's. We need to be a bit more realistic and pragmatic in our beliefs and how they can be best achieved and also factual. I've backed plenty of 4/9 favs in my time to know its not over by a long chalk with 14 games to go and plenty of opportunities to get those 6 wins based on the last few games. So that'll be just the one relegation and 2 years of gross mis-management after which the past 9 months like them or loathe them it seems the board have tried to be innovative and tough to tackle some serious problems. We didn't need the board to be innovative. We needed them to be pragmatic. When you are deep in the sh*t, you don't want to try out wildly speculative gambles, you want to use tried and tested methods that have been proven to produce beneficial results. But as Lowe's madcap experiment has failed so dismally, the entire blame rests firmly on his and the Quisling's shoulders. I don't even blame Poortvliet or Wotte; they were merely innocent victims, way out of their depth. It was a train crash waiting to happen and many correctly predicted the outcome right from the start. I don't care much for Lowe or Crouch but I do prefer any communication from them to treat me with a degree of respect and intelligence and prefer Lowe's blunt but believable style to Crouch's fables and false promises. Is it treating the fans with respect and intelligence going off skiiing or to Scotland while we sink deeper into the mire? The Captain ought to be on the bridge as we head for the iceberg, not off on holiday. At the moment I think Lowe's silence is deafening in terms of where the club is at and prefer what I suspect we would be getting from Crouch in the same circumstances some bluff about being 20pts off challenging for a play off spot, investment is 3, 6 or 9 months away. So what are the real reasons for not renewing your ST and encouranging others not do so? Simple. A boycott to rid the club of the current shables that calls itself a board. Isn't that plain enough? ON another note not related to your post can I just say this notion of a 'British' manager is ridiculous, jingoistic, racist and is some kind of myopic and parochial nationalistic nonsense. Roberto Martinez at Swansea - I don't suppose many of us would turn him away? He obviously has a decent chairman and board at Swansea, that lets him get on with it without interference. Although he might be on a tight budget, I doubt that the board force him to indulge the chairman in implementing some madcap scheme of his. But of course, Swansea as an example rather shoots yourself in the foot, as they got rid of the board under similar circumstances to those we endure and look at them now. I agree, Swansea are an example and an inspiration to us here. Seriously, the connatation being implied is offensive and says more about those who support Stanley's comments as being people who seem intent on creating trouble or are not taking care in what they post. A British manager is an entirely different call than a manager with experience in British leagues. Here I agree with you. We needed a manager with experience in British leagues, regardless of his nationality. What a shame that the board didn't realise that, especially when we already had one here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andover pedro Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 No i havnt gone this season as i promised last year that if that man returned i would not go back i cannot bring myself to mention his name , because although money is tight now, i still cant get my head around all the cash disapearing from the last 10 years. attendances in division 3 next year approx 8k-12k club is in meltdown and will end up like Aldershot and will have to start again in southern division as the ground will probably be sold for housing and torn down. Saints will play at Marchwood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie@home Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 It's a depressing question. Many of us are torn. We want Lowe out, but do not want him to stop us watching our team. However, it's no longer been fun or exciting at all this season for anyone, if you are interested in the politics or not. Plenty of people sat around me in the Kingsland say they will not renew unless there is some hope, i.e. no Lowe, even though they are only interested in watching a good game of football and nothing else - they just need hope. However, my husband has already got to the point where he is going just to keep me happy. There must be plenty of supporters where the groups are getting smaller, and how many of us want to sit at matches or in the pub beforehand on our own? I haven't made a final decision yet, but if Lowe goes I definitely will renew. Otherwise, I might well withold my cash and then make decisions game by game. The point is that the club needs more than fanatical supporters to be a feasible business; it needs thousands of people who just want to watch a good match - Lowe's business plan is not catering for these "customers" at present. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Well i never thought i would say this but i will not be renewing mine. I have had a season ticket solid since 1977 yet missed loads of games in the 80s and 90s due to my own legendary football career so the money was never an issue.I would either be playing or watching, nothing else mattered and to be fair i still felt the same at the start of this season but somehow they have ruined my whole outlook on SFC. I used to be the grumpiest bastard around on a saturday if we hadnt won but now it seems to just pass me by as the norm.. I might start playing again although some serious training is required. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Man, you really are f**king deluding yourself. This doesn't apply to you anyway. It is a genuine question that has only received a couple of genuine answers. I know the scenario is not that likely, but not impossible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Lowe once stood for the Referendum Party - the forerunner to UKIP. Would you describe Lowes political beliefs as "myopic and parochial nationalist nonsense"? And that is worse than your politics? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 16 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Its a difficult question because who is really prepared to turn their back on the own club because of the board? it would be like letting them win! why ? which positions will they be playing ? huh? sorry being thick Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Genuine question: Imagine next season - whichever league we are in - Lowe is still there, and Wotte, but we get off to a flier and are top by October, (unlikely I know) but will you continue to boycott the club? Oh come on..realistic questions only Sid. How about, after six games in League 1, and a heavy defeat to Walsall, do you still feel Rupert and Wotte are the way forward...and our top scorer has signed from the Tyro League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 i get the gist but I will eat my own feet if tomorrow 5k more fans decided to go just on the fact we are no longer a PLC.. I will go further to say that most fan could not give a flying if we are a PLC..as long as we win and as long as lowe goes It's not the PLC status per se TDD but the personnel behind it and Askham and co using it as a front to rape the club. Therefore, PLC status is badly damaged by the actions of a few former Directors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 No way whatsoever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 This doesn't apply to you anyway. It is a genuine question that has only received a couple of genuine answers. I know the scenario is not that likely, but not impossible Point is Sid, we wouldn't be top of ANY league with these idiots in charge. Particularly with Rupert insisting on McGoldrick playing, he couldn't score in 19 games at Port Vale last season at that level. If we did go top a few may go back but I don't think it would make a lot of difference to me - next season whether I go or not at all depends on what happens over the summer. The objective for me is to remove them by the end of the season, if not before. If they stay, we won't be top of any league Sid, we'll be recovering from a -10 points start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son of Bob Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 I will always go and watch Saints. Premiership or Conference, Lowe or Crouch, I will always go along and support my team. I suspect I'm in the minority but I wouldn't turn my back whatever the political situation... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broncoboy Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 I wont go to watch the crap we have had to endure over the last few years. If Lowe or Wilde is in charge next year we really will have to be playing exciting football for me to attend. Dont expect things will get better as long as Lowe is around, He will always **** people off, lose managers , pick the wrong manager, interfere etc If he buys the club in administration for nothing I will never go again as that will mean we would never get rid of him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 (edited) Absolutely not...NO chance, until they're both gone. Edited 16 February, 2009 by ottery st mary spelling ..thanks Adrian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ottery st mary Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 "they're". We're boycotting Saints, not grammar. Sorry, I am only in class 4 and they're all mad in my class, so I have a lot to catch up on.:cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 I will attend, mainly because I don't have anything better to do at the weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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