Fitzhugh Fella Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Well, having watched the highlights, we deserved something and it wouldn't have been "robbery" or any other such thing. The lads played well, as a unit, and they fought to the end. Well thats alright then - how many more times are we going to hear this "lads played well" horse**** Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 I don't disagree with much of what you've said but you can't blame the manager that the goalposts aren't a foot wider spaced apart. He can't force the players to tuck it inside the post and, that aside, his team created a fair few chances for an away game at the team topping the form league. There are days I watch my putts roll inches by and wonder what Tiger has that I don't. Then I remember. Practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Basic lesson in Football Management ... Played 32 Goals scored 29 .. ie LESS than ONE per game YOU NEED STRIKERS GO AND TELL LOWE ..... HE EITHER LOANED THEM OR SOLD THEM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Indeed Ewell. It's not something we can just magic up either, which is the worrying part. Ferguson could be the manager and we'd still be slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Well thats alright then - how many more times are we going to hear this "lads played well" horse**** that was not the point being made some are saying the players dont give a **** and it was another lackluster I could not give a **** disjointed performance... we lost, but we lost trying.. not that it makes a difference to previous game but that was not the point Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Well thats alright then - how many more times are we going to hear this "lads played well" horse**** It wasn't horse****, so I don't get your point in this instance. In many other games I would agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 This guy needs to go - simple. I cannot believe there is not a decent Manager out there that can get more out of the squad through better coaching and tactical nouse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 This guy needs to go - simple. I cannot believe there is not a decent Manager out there that can get more out of the squad through better coaching and tactical nouse. There is....but they - 1. would cost money for one 2. and have to work with Lowe for another. So if we aren't screwed with point 1 we sure as hell are with point 2 !!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 There is....but they - 1. would cost money for one 2. and have to work with Lowe for another. So if we aren't screwed with point 1 we sure as hell are with point 2 !!! I don't buy this and never have. Dowie has a mortgage. So too Holloway and Boothroyd...and Adams (jnr) And they all think they know best. That's why they're managers. Wotte was not the right choice. Too late, but there you go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 I don't buy this and never have. Dowie has a mortgage. So too Holloway and Boothroyd...and Adams (jnr) And they all think they know best. That's why they're managers. Wotte was not the right choice. Too late, but there you go.All due respect but where is Adams jnr? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 All due respect but where is Adams jnr? No idea Nick? I mean Micky, btw - whom I presume is the younger?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beatlesaint Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 I don't buy this and never have. Dowie has a mortgage. So too Holloway and Boothroyd...and Adams (jnr) And they all think they know best. That's why they're managers. Wotte was not the right choice. Too late, but there you go. Ok, you dont buy them not working with Lowe, your view, fair enough. But you would have to concede we dont have the money to pay them anything like a decent salary then surely ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Ok, you dont buy them not working with Lowe, your view, fair enough. But you would have to concede we dont have the money to pay them anything like a decent salary then surely ? I don't know any more. Things are tough out there. What's a decent salary?? I agree with you that we won't get them while Lowe is here but when you consider the money we have spunked away on PR, severance pay, etc... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 In the first half we weren't great and City should have been three up before we got a chance. In the second half we were much the better team and Jason should have scored. We deserved a draw on balance but if I hear Wotte talking about luck again I will kill him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 that was not the point being made some are saying the players dont give a **** and it was another lackluster I could not give a **** disjointed performance... we lost, but we lost trying.. not that it makes a difference to previous game but that was not the point Sorry Dell Days - trying is not good enough. It should be taken as read that they try - put me in a red and white shirt and I would try as hard as I could (and I'd do it for nothing). We got to stop this "at least we gave it our all " mentalilty. We are ****e, the table doesn't lie and here we are patting ourselves on the back and making excuses that "at least it wasn't another lacklustre performance". That attitude will follow us all the way down to Div 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 It wasn't horse****, so I don't get your point in this instance. In many other games I would agree. Ponty - please see my reply to Dell Days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 S We got to stop this "at least we gave it our all " mentalilty. We are ****e, the table doesn't lie and here we are patting ourselves on the back and making excuses that "at least it wasn't another lacklustre performance". That attitude will follow us all the way down to Div 2. I know we are shyte..you dont have to tell me..im usually the one saying we are shyte before most.. in most oter games we are/were shyte...but yesterday ON THIS ONE GAME that we are talking about...it seems we were more unlucky than shyte and that a draw would have been fair.. does that mean we will stay up..? no chance...just commenting on the game being discussed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
derry Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 the coaches have been crap all season, I don't know where we get our tic tacs from but no other team anywhere seems to employ them. Why don't we score, because we don't create clearcut chances, don't get to the byeline, can't shoot, launch crosses that wouldn't trouble an incompetent centre half, play players that have an inflated ego and no end product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgiesaint Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 The run for that last goal was embarrassing and both Surman and James were shown up for their lack of pace. The real embarrassing thing though is the comments of the Bristol player Sproule after the match. He said that he knew he could outpace our team. The fact he just wellied the ball and went after it proved he was right. I reckon every manager in this league knows we lack pace and I am positive there tactics and team talks focus on this. Not seen the goal but I have seen Sproule when he was at Hibs before his move to Bristol and he is quick. If KD was up for a corner then depending on starting position then wellying it past our last line & chasing it may well have been the way to go - not embarrassing - thats the way it is when your keeper is up for a corner in injury time. This guy needs to go - simple. I cannot believe there is not a decent Manager out there that can get more out of the squad through better coaching and tactical nouse. This is the crux of the issue - that and why he & JP were appointed in the first place. But we all know that Lowe isn't going to sack Wotte as well so L1 footy next season for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 No idea Nick? I mean Micky, btw - whom I presume is the younger?? He is managing Brighton who have just slipped into the relegation places in L1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Not seen the goal but I have seen Sproule when he was at Hibs before his move to Bristol and he is quick. If KD was up for a corner then depending on starting position then wellying it past our last line & chasing it may well have been the way to go - not embarrassing - thats the way it is when your keeper is up for a corner in injury time. This is the crux of the issue - that and why he & JP were appointed in the first place. But we all know that Lowe isn't going to sack Wotte as well so L1 footy next season for us. Trouble is when your 'keeper is up for a corner you should make sure the cross goes nowhere near their keeper. Rocket science it is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Trouble is when your 'keeper is up for a corner you should make sure the cross goes nowhere near their keeper. Rocket science it is not. so, are you saying that we should not have put it in the box..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 Trouble is when your 'keeper is up for a corner you should make sure the cross goes nowhere near their keeper. Rocket science it is not.It went into the mix, the keeper should have been blocked from getting to it and then from releasing itquickly.Sadly we dont have the muscle to do these things Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ALWAYS_SFC Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 so, are you saying that we should not have put it in the box..? We should think ourselves lucky it actually got in the box as usually it gets cut out by the first man... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 so, are you saying that we should not have put it in the box..? You put it in the box near enough the goal to cause potential damage but not near enough for the keeper to get it. Takes skill, accepted, but our lot haven't got a clue. Terry Paine could still take a better corner now and he's nearly 70. Still at least we try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
corsacar saint Posted 15 February, 2009 Share Posted 15 February, 2009 They scored 2, Saints scored 0, why is it so difficult for Wotte to understand that we lost the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 They scored 2, Saints scored 0, why is it so difficult for Wotte to understand that we lost the game. I think it's difficult for Wotte to understand why we lost similar to other managers/coaches of other clubs in a similar situation. I have to laugh at some of the comments from premiership managers/coaches following a loss. Of course a win helps positive comments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LostBoys Posted 16 February, 2009 Share Posted 16 February, 2009 Only teams who score more goals than they concede win games and the league table will reflect that - the rest is of no consequence in the end. Luck is not where you have an opposition player not only start ten metres behind the Saints defender but end up ten metres in front of him in only thirty metres and with the defender then stopping running on the edge of our box it is just poor player(s) and poor coaching. I think Mr Wotte should reconsider his post game comments - we are a laughing stock as we are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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