aintforever Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 Wotte talks more crap than Poortvleit. That is some achievement. Every time he opens his gob he just confirms what we all know and why he is unsuitable for the job - he knows jack **** about the Championship. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 Strange times indeed, which require even stranger - but realistic - appraoches. Nick fails to get this as well. I fully admire his attempt to create optimism and support this farce until the end in order to give Wotte a chance etc etc etc. But, there is a reality pill that overrides this admirable ideal. That is: 1. Fans have lost it with Lowe and Wilde. They WILL NOT support them any longer unless results change - they wont, we're going down... to League 2, not 1 but 2 in as many seasons. 2. Lowe is refusing to move on and will not replace his failing manager AND PARTNER IN CRIME ( - remember it was Wotte/SCW et al 2 years ago who were feeding sweety mice into Lowe's head that youth could work before GB was appointed). 3. Unless Lowe goes, Wotte cant go, team will not improve, fans will not support. REALISM. 4. You thus need to reverse engineer the support which usually runs bottom and upwards to remove the problem top down to AT LEAST get support back and have a fighting chance of staying up... which is evaporating rapidly. Finally, there IS one thing worth watching for in Wotte's rhetoric. When Wotte admits defeat, which may happen sooner than we expect, and that he cannot save the team from relegation... watch out. He will be talking on behalf of the chairman who is preparing for administration AND a possible consolidation of his own power base. Watch. Top down change is the only realistic and constructive way fans can now support this club. Supporting the team on the pitch is admirable but sadly - very very sadly, and it makes me feel sick to type this - a waste of time for the good of this Club. Wotte is going to take us down, fluke win or two not withstanding, he is going to take us down. Robbie i dont get how you believe that a cahnge of chairman will change the results on the pitch.You and others tell me the fans dont make a difference to performance and so getting rid of a chairman will not effect that if you and others are right in that. The players are behind the idea of the way we are playing and so they have it in their hands to sort our destiny.I can only report back in good faith what Iam getting.I hope people like UM will support me in that I was very sceptical about jan and Wotte's appointment.Since his appointment I have had little reports back from the club that the morale is good and the players are very much up for what he is doing.They like us, may have been not sure of him but he has changed a few things that has given the side something to work from. I would have preferred to have a Davies or Boothroyd but i have to accept who has been chosen and live with it.That is life, many of the players over the years I have not rated but understand that it is not my job at risk relying on the players. Tonight my attiutde may have swayed back to very unhappy but I want to believe and so that is my frame of mind.If you say we are going to lose everygame then supporting Saints you are going to be right more than wrong and can come on here and brag about it, I prefer to stay positive and can see that we are still in there with a chance. Dont forget we had a lot who said we'd be relegated by Xmas, well we aren't yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 How the f**k is he meant to gain any credibility when he spouts sh*t like that. The best teams win games, particularly at home. What an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Saints Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 If being sh1t at his job wasn't enough, he also talks a load of b0llocks. Not really helping himself with statements like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 if we start winning doesn't matter what he says he will be doing very well. if we don't, it doesn't matter what he says we will be relegated. therefore, it doesn't mattter what he says so watch the results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabrone Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 I think What? would be well advised to just shut up and concentrate on getting results. That really is all that matters now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 The guy does not have a clue - on or off the field. Get some results pal and then perhaps someone might actually believe you know something about football worth knowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 far too many writing him off due to who appointed him. He has increased training intensity and discipline, Swansea was certainly a better team ethic, he plays two forwards, has had the same start as NP with worse team in worse position. give him a chance! Like Lowe gave Pearson a chance you mean? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 Have you been at any of Wotte's games, did you see the Bristol City Game? Man, how desperate are you getting ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 Like Lowe gave Pearson a chance you mean? we all gave NP far more of a chance. Lowe didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 Robbie i dont get how you believe that a cahnge of chairman will change the results on the pitch.You and others tell me the fans dont make a difference to performance and so getting rid of a chairman will not effect that if you and others are right in that. The players are behind the idea of the way we are playing and so they have it in their hands to sort our destiny.I can only report back in good faith what Iam getting.I hope people like UM will support me in that I was very sceptical about jan and Wotte's appointment.Since his appointment I have had little reports back from the club that the morale is good and the players are very much up for what he is doing.They like us, may have been not sure of him but he has changed a few things that has given the side something to work from. I would have preferred to have a Davies or Boothroyd but i have to accept who has been chosen and live with it.That is life, many of the players over the years I have not rated but understand that it is not my job at risk relying on the players. Tonight my attiutde may have swayed back to very unhappy but I want to believe and so that is my frame of mind.If you say we are going to lose everygame then supporting Saints you are going to be right more than wrong and can come on here and brag about it, I prefer to stay positive and can see that we are still in there with a chance. Dont forget we had a lot who said we'd be relegated by Xmas, well we aren't yet. I dont get how you think Wotte and Lowe are delivering anything other than relegation. Therein lies your answer. Bored of typing it to you Nick... but just once more: Lowe/Wotte = CERTAIN RELEGATION. THAT IS NEGATIVE THINKING. Crouch(or anyone but Lowe!!)/Anyavailable CCC experienced manager = POSSIBILITY OF SURVIVAL AND HOPE/FANS SUPPORTING THE RUN IN BATTLES. THAT IS POSITIVE THINKING. NICK THE REALITY IS THE FANS ARE LEAVING AND HATE LOWE - THEY DONT SUPPORT HIM. HE IS A LIAR AND UNTRUSTWORTHY. HIS MANAGER IS ****. REALITY. NOW WE NEED TO BUILD ON THE REALITY TO STAND A CHANCE. You're on another planet mate if you are prepared to roll over for Wotte and Lowe to turn this around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 14 February, 2009 Share Posted 14 February, 2009 2 points from 4 games. We are sh1t and we are going down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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