TopGun Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 This is not a thread about whether we should sell or offload players btw. It is about if we still have to sell or offload for financial reasons, who would be the player that we need least? Jason Euell for me.
Saint Martini Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Skacel, Euell has had a decent pre-season and Skacel hasn't really seamed to be up for it.
VectisSaint Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Can we choose Rupert? Great minds think alike, it was my first thought as well.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 This is not a thread about whether we should sell or offload players btw. It is about if we still have to sell or offload for financial reasons, who would be the player that we need least? Jason Euell for me. How much cheaper than Euell would you work out at?
TopGun Posted 19 August, 2008 Author Posted 19 August, 2008 How much cheaper than Euell would you work out at? You've rumbled me JFP. AC
SaintDonkey Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Tempted to say Thomas but with Davies gone we need the experienced cover at centre back and right back. Having said that it's evident that Poortvliet doesn't rate him so maybe best if he did go. Euell I think could yet be a valuable player for us but Skacel's heart doesn't seem in it so bye bye Rudi. BWP's place looks vulnerable - he should be a natural to slot into this style of play but he doesn't really offer anything we haven't got from the youth.
toofarnorth Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Thomas, then BWP. Would like to see Skacel and Euell stay.
saintrich Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Why Thomas? We are ridiculously short of cover at the back, as it is.
Weston Super Saint Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 The terrible two-some of failed chairmen Well apparently one of them doesn't get paid, so perhaps he could stick around and make the tea or something??
Doctoroncall Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Sod it - let's have a clear out! Skacel Thomas BWP Dyer Euell John In that order and hope there would be funds left over for three decent loans: a left and right fullback and a striker.
ottery st mary Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Get rid of the kit man and bring back Woggy he just has so much more experience/class and now he is much older will be a lot cheaper.
the scud Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 I would first sell Euell and then maybe Skacel and Dyer. Thomas will now stay as Davies has departed for Stoke, can't see John moving yet as Saga and Rasiak have already gone out on loan and with the reported bust up between BWP and JP on the coach after the Exeter game, wouldn't be surprised to see BWP be sold to another Championship club.
stevegrant Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 I would first sell Euell and then maybe Skacel and Dyer. Thomas will now stay as Davies has departed for Stoke, can't see John moving yet as Saga and Rasiak have already gone out on loan and with the reported bust up between BWP and JP on the coach after the Exeter game, wouldn't be surprised to see BWP be sold to another Championship club. That would be assuming anyone else in this division would be bonkers enough to pay him £8k a week. The only teams who would be able to afford that already have much better alternatives in their squad.
TopGun Posted 19 August, 2008 Author Posted 19 August, 2008 BWP's place looks vulnerable - he should be a natural to slot into this style of play but he doesn't really offer anything we haven't got from the youth. That's a valid comment f'sure. What is this purported bust up between JP and BWP on the Exeter coach... I've missed that one...
mitch01 Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 BWP, Skatcel, Euell and Surman. Interesting that as Surman's move to reading starts to happen, it becomes a 'good idea' to get rid of him.
TopGun Posted 19 August, 2008 Author Posted 19 August, 2008 It's not a good idea to get rid of any of them, it's a sad necessity. Have to disagree to a point. If players like Skacel give up heart (which I think happened) then what use are they for a team that requires complete commitment whatever the circumstances?
Saint Mikey Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 That would be assuming anyone else in this division would be bonkers enough to pay him £8k a week. The only teams who would be able to afford that already have much better alternatives in their squad. Any idea when his contract is up? And all these other supposed high earners? Do we get rid of any next season?
labibs Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 It's difficult to make a decision unless you know exactly how much each of the players are on, plus what bonuses they get for appearances etc. Having said that, I feel we could afford to lose BWP. One of the most infuriating players ever. Thing is, if he truly is on 8k p/w, I cannot see anyone else mad enough to pay that for him.
TopGun Posted 19 August, 2008 Author Posted 19 August, 2008 It's difficult to make a decision unless you know exactly how much each of the players are on, plus what bonuses they get for appearances etc. Having said that, I feel we could afford to lose BWP. One of the most infuriating players ever. Thing is, if he truly is on 8k p/w, I cannot see anyone else mad enough to pay that for him. Do lifestyle issues come into the equation also? Irrespective of the court case that BWP has got himself into, is it better to have a squad that doesn't have liabilities or deadheads? Maybe that was why Nile Ranger was released. JP seems quite tough on this stuff.
66East Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Have to disagree to a point. If players like Skacel give up heart (which I think happened) then what use are they for a team that requires complete commitment whatever the circumstances? If Skacel doesn't want to be here, then he's got to seriously think about his wage demands. Ipswich and Hertha, both appeared to want him but aren't prepared to match his wages. Over to you Rudi.
TopGun Posted 19 August, 2008 Author Posted 19 August, 2008 (edited) True, but if we had enough money he'd never have left in the first place, he'd no doubt now be a valued part of the team and be trying his best. I only ever saw commited performances from him. Not surprised he got fed up being treated like crap by Burley. God knows why he doesn't have a club after doing well for Hertha. I think mental stamina is an important issue. Why sign a player who wants £10K a week if it seems his head goes down at the slightest team setback? Skacel hardly fought for his place. By talent he would have been a shoe in every Saturday. Surman displaced him at both left midfield and left back really by attitude. Edited 19 August, 2008 by TopGun
scooby Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Having said that, I feel we could afford to lose BWP. One of the most infuriating players ever. Thing is, if he truly is on 8k p/w, I cannot see anyone else mad enough to pay that for him. If Chelsea can dismiss Mutu then fine him multi-millions for taking a spot of charlie, why can't we ship out that nasty BWP on the basis that his criminal actions have taken the club into ill repute?
John B Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Surman because I feel he is overated. Mills will soon take over his position so where will he play then?
Andy_Porter Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Whoever we can get money for. I'd like to keep John, the rest are less important.
sunrise Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 If Chelsea can dismiss Mutu then fine him multi-millions for taking a spot of charlie, why can't we ship out that nasty BWP on the basis that his criminal actions have taken the club into ill repute? Perhaps Rupes is hoping someone will be mug enough to buy BWP.
Johnny Shearer Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 If Chelsea can dismiss Mutu then fine him multi-millions for taking a spot of charlie, why can't we ship out that nasty BWP on the basis that his criminal actions have taken the club into ill repute? Because sometimes people do stupid things. Dont get me wrong I do not condone his actions but if he is remorseful and willing to show the Club that he is trying then I'm for that. However at the moment he isn't exactly doing that.
TopGun Posted 19 August, 2008 Author Posted 19 August, 2008 If Chelsea can dismiss Mutu then fine him multi-millions for taking a spot of charlie, why can't we ship out that nasty BWP on the basis that his criminal actions have taken the club into ill repute? He is the Coke kid anyway. Fruit juice all the way now for me.
TopGun Posted 19 August, 2008 Author Posted 19 August, 2008 If Chelsea can dismiss Mutu then fine him multi-millions for taking a spot of charlie, why can't we ship out that nasty BWP on the basis that his criminal actions have taken the club into ill repute? Indeed, for all the charges he is not yet guilty of. Are you an advisor to Bush Scooby?
John D Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 If Chelsea can dismiss Mutu then fine him multi-millions for taking a spot of charlie, why can't we ship out that nasty BWP on the basis that his criminal actions have taken the club into ill repute? because fortunately we live in a society where you are innocent until proven guilty. bwp has pleaded not guilty so we cannot do anything till after the court case
St Paul Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 If Chelsea can dismiss Mutu then fine him multi-millions for taking a spot of charlie, why can't we ship out that nasty BWP on the basis that his criminal actions have taken the club into ill repute? Where does Rupert giving Dyer a new contract sit with your holier than thou statement?
aintforever Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Might as well flog the whole ****ing lot and prepare for life in league 1 with a better bank balance. We are nailed on for relegation now so why not?
alpine_saint Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 This is not a thread about whether we should sell or offload players btw. It is about if we still have to sell or offload for financial reasons, who would be the player that we need least? Jason Euell for me. Rupert Lowe
alpine_saint Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Interesting that as Surman's move to reading starts to happen, it becomes a 'good idea' to get rid of him. LOL. Just like how Andrew Davies was a waste of time, despite those individuals voting for him in the Player of the Season vote.
TopGun Posted 19 August, 2008 Author Posted 19 August, 2008 LOL. Just like how Andrew Davies was a waste of time, despite those individuals voting for him in the Player of the Season vote. Trying to be positive Alps, I can't see why the board would have sold Davies if they believe that is route one to relegation. It doesn't serve their interests either. I guess we may see a bit of Lancashire at some stage (about time) and the rest goes from there.
slickmick Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Another question, how many more do we need to shift to get the wage bill to a managable level. I would like to hear Lowe and Wilde tell us when we are living within our means.
chivvy1664 Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 I would also like to know when this is going to end. When are we going to within our means. Thomas should start alongside svensson that would be a strong central defensive partnership. Skacel is made for the lallana or Holmes role. I think BWP would do better than Mcgoldrick or Thompson at AMR. Looks like euell would go first for me.
Andy_Porter Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 I guess we may see a bit of Lancashire at some stage (about time) and the rest goes from there. if he can stay injury free..... It's a stupid gamble to rely on Lancashire, Perry and Svensson.
Andy_Porter Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Another question, how many more do we need to shift to get the wage bill to a managable level. I would like to hear Lowe and Wilde tell us when we are living within our means. It must be quite a few more considering we've just sold our best player for peanuts. I assume it will be a while before we're even close to breaking even.
ulstersaint Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 BWP for me - showed promise but never delivered.
buctootim Posted 19 August, 2008 Posted 19 August, 2008 Yep BWP. TBH if we could offload BWP, Euell and Skacel I dont think they'd even be missed.
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