1976_Child Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 As you say about people in Africa at 13 years old being fathers, is that a good thing? Do you not think we are a bit more smarter here to relise being a 13 yr old dad is not a good idea? This country is going downhill fast. Well, some of us are. Comes with education. The problem is that most of the teenage pregnancies happen between poorly educated people. Just because we have an advanced society with "credit derivatives" (sic) doesn't mean we are light years ahead of the Africans. In fact in many respects they are ahead of us as African societies still put a lot of faith in the concept of the extended family where the whole village raises the kids. There would be no outcry if a village elder clipped a young lad round the ear for a misdemeanor like there would be here. Perhaps we should learn from them rather than constantly think that just because we are westerners we are naturally superior.
JohnnyFartPants Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 Well, some of us are. Comes with education. The problem is that most of the teenage pregnancies happen between poorly educated people. Just because we have an advanced society with "credit derivatives" (sic) doesn't mean we are light years ahead of the Africans. In fact in many respects they are ahead of us as African societies still put a lot of faith in the concept of the extended family where the whole village raises the kids. There would be no outcry if a village elder clipped a young lad round the ear for a misdemeanor like there would be here. Perhaps we should learn from them rather than constantly think that just because we are westerners we are naturally superior. Sorry mate, we are one step ahead again. Over here the whole fu(king country raises their kids.
1976_Child Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 Sorry mate, we are one step ahead again. Over here the whole fu(king country raises their kids. too true... thieving benifit scum
JohnnyFartPants Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 too true... thieving benifit scum On a serious note, I don't think we need to learn from Africa. They are behind us on that score as we used to do that too. We changed, and not for the better.
1976_Child Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 On a serious note, I don't think we need to learn from Africa. They are behind us on that score as we used to do that too. We changed, and not for the better. well for one thing, we certainly need a long hard look at how many people live on this Island called Britain. Especially here in the south. We also need to stop this ludicrous GDP-growth-chasing nonsense at all costs and start living with sustainability in mind. Simple fact is that economies can't grow indefinately. We don't need all the consumerist crap we are forced to buy in the name of GDP growth. On that score, the Africans (at least my friends in Tanzania) are ahead of us. They are not your stereo-typed starving Africans but neither would you ever describe them as rich. They are however generally content and happy. The same can not be said about our country folk at the moment.
hypochondriac Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 Can the mother of the boy get the child taken off her for neglect?
Deppo Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 It does beg the question : what is she doing ****ging a boy that looks like he's eight?
saintwarwick Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 It does beg the question : what is she doing ****ging a boy that looks like he's eight? Surely she should be put on the sex offenders register.
Deppo Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 Still, I suppose we've all ****ed a miner at some point.
bridge too far Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 Serious question. It was reported that his voice hadn't broken. I thought blokes couldn't produce the goodies until their voices had broken. :confused:
Deppo Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 It's more of a point than a question. I'll let you know if my voice ever breaks.
bridge too far Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 It's more of a point than a question. I'll let you know if my voice ever breaks. That's you and me finished before we even started then
Deppo Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 No, no...it was for the sake of the joke. I'm not really pre-pubescent. Damn.
saint_bert Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 Anyone else think she looks like Karen Matthews? And we all know how that turned out.
Johnny Shearer Posted 13 February, 2009 Posted 13 February, 2009 What a sad state of affairs. Seriously what were the parents doing and what was that 15 year girl up to? The baby shall have a great life. As somehow I dont see the parents staying together forever. I do think the baby will have lots of other half brothers and sister though.
Blanco Saint Posted 14 February, 2009 Posted 14 February, 2009 The young father was interviewed on the the radio, when asked 'and how will you support the child financially' he replied 'what does that mean' . How scary is that? I was thinking he might say ' do an extra paper round' or ' cut back on the video games' He really does sound very young. Still, he probably can milk a few more quid off the sun and other papers. Maybe even celeb big brother (when he's older)
Mao Cap Posted 14 February, 2009 Posted 14 February, 2009 Heard that the girl thought that the father could be any one of five people, and yet that little lad's super sperm beat the lot of them. Well done, kiddo
mynameisthehulk Posted 14 February, 2009 Posted 14 February, 2009 i had 4 kids and a coucil flat in shirley warren when I was 13 Dad?
Saintandy666 Posted 14 February, 2009 Posted 14 February, 2009 I'm 16. My first reaction when I saw this was 'This is ****ed up ****'.
Wiltshire Saint Posted 14 February, 2009 Posted 14 February, 2009 I'm 16. My first reaction when I saw this was 'This is ****ed up ****'. Sounds like jealousy to me.
Saintandy666 Posted 14 February, 2009 Posted 14 February, 2009 Sounds like jealousy to me. Naaaaaaa, theres a big difference between having sex and having a child. In my opinion, if you are ready, theres no problem with having sex at 15 or 16, but having a baby at 13 is screwed up.
wheels Posted 14 February, 2009 Posted 14 February, 2009 certainly this sort of thing should not be encouraged but my point is that we shouldn't damn them either. Good luck to them I say. They are certainly going to need it. We certainly should ****ing damn them, and their unwashed ****ing parents!! Bottom lone is that they have broken the ****ing law, or does that not matter any more? He'll **** off within a year and get some other slag up the duff. In the meantime, we'll all pay for the upkeep of the ankle biters these sub-humans keep bringing into the world. This country is so ****ing liberal!! It's never anybody's fault anymore. "Oh they need help" - ********, they need to know they've broken the law! "We need to treat these kids as young adults!" - Ok, so get the ****er out earning his (and his child's keep) - oh we can't because he's too ****ing young. :smt092
ART Posted 15 February, 2009 Posted 15 February, 2009 I've been telling my frog friends for days they ought to do a DNA test on the kid as he's problably only covering up for some other guy who might get into trouble for getting a 15 year old pregnant. Now it seems two other boys have come forward and signed testaments stating they too had sex with the girl. So it looks like a DNA test will be carried out after all. The plot thickens. I wonder where BWP and Nathan were 9 months ago. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hsJWPIbNNNcPxOcdoL-YGgukWXVA
Evil Monkey Posted 15 February, 2009 Posted 15 February, 2009 At the age of 29 and the youngest of three brothers my dad still can't resist pointing to the childrens menu in any restaurant and suggesting that i may want to choose from it. Ahhhh...that joke never tires... They are definitely children. And will remain so until they start earning a living and move out of their parental homes. If your old man is 29, how old are you?
Ponty Posted 15 February, 2009 Posted 15 February, 2009 I've been telling my frog friends for days they ought to do a DNA test on the kid as he's problably only covering up for some other guy who might get into trouble for getting a 15 year old pregnant. Now it seems two other boys have come forward and signed testaments stating they too had sex with the girl. So it looks like a DNA test will be carried out after all. The plot thickens. I wonder where BWP and Nathan were 9 months ago. http://www.google.com/hostednews/ukpress/article/ALeqM5hsJWPIbNNNcPxOcdoL-YGgukWXVA He's probably covering for his dad. Reading that article suggests he's had 9 kids by a load of different women.
Weston Super Saint Posted 15 February, 2009 Posted 15 February, 2009 We certainly should ****ing damn them, and their unwashed ****ing parents!! Bottom lone is that they have broken the ****ing law, or does that not matter any more? He'll **** off within a year and get some other slag up the duff. In the meantime, we'll all pay for the upkeep of the ankle biters these sub-humans keep bringing into the world. This country is so ****ing liberal!! It's never anybody's fault anymore. "Oh they need help" - ********, they need to know they've broken the law! "We need to treat these kids as young adults!" - Ok, so get the ****er out earning his (and his child's keep) - oh we can't because he's too ****ing young. :smt092 I'm feeling the RAGE!
Window Cleaner Posted 15 February, 2009 Posted 15 February, 2009 Ermmmm she must be f**ked up! I mean, how many 15 year olds do you remember from school going out with 13 year olds?! Let alone sleeping with them!! So wrong though. The lad is a baby himself!! Well apparently it isn't as straightforward as all that. There are some other potential 'dads' as well; Must have been the village bike. In my day lots of lads ****ged lots of girls at 15/16/17, strange no-one ever knocked anyone up though.I suppose at 16 I must have sex about once every 2 weeks throughout the year ,same as the majority of my classmates.Not 1 girl got knocked up though.Mind you the condoms must have been about a foot thick back in those days.And the "pills" were strong stuff (with side effects, usually bigger and bigger tits).
Jillyanne Posted 15 February, 2009 Posted 15 February, 2009 Well apparently it isn't as straightforward as all that. There are some other potential 'dads' as well; Must have been the village bike. In my day lots of lads ****ged lots of girls at 15/16/17, strange no-one ever knocked anyone up though.I suppose at 16 I must have sex about once every 2 weeks throughout the year ,same as the majority of my classmates.Not 1 girl got knocked up though.Mind you the condoms must have been about a foot thick back in those days.And the "pills" were strong stuff (with side effects, usually bigger and bigger tits). Do you go about in a loin cloth with as spear?
Window Cleaner Posted 15 February, 2009 Posted 15 February, 2009 Do you go about in a loin cloth with as spear? Did I bump into you at a fancy dress do then?
Thedelldays Posted 17 February, 2009 Posted 17 February, 2009 lets hope the governemt make them use the money from all the press stories sensibly rather than throw benefit after benefit their way..? surely imcome like this comes into account when dishing out the free money..?
Pancake Posted 17 February, 2009 Posted 17 February, 2009 Im glad to see that 13 year old Dad wants to take care of his child and has joined Fathers4Justice. He is quoted as saying "Well, it makes sense seeing as Ive got the Spiderman costume already"
Gingeletiss Posted 17 February, 2009 Posted 17 February, 2009 Im glad to see that 13 year old Dad wants to take care of his child and has joined Fathers4Justice. He is quoted as saying "Well, it makes sense seeing as Ive got the Spiderman costume already" :smt082:smt082:roll: for you as well;)
JohnnyFartPants Posted 17 February, 2009 Posted 17 February, 2009 Im glad to see that 13 year old Dad wants to take care of his child and has joined Fathers4Justice. He is quoted as saying "Well, it makes sense seeing as Ive got the Spiderman costume already" I was sent that text too!!
Secret Site Agent Posted 24 February, 2009 Posted 24 February, 2009 oi. don't be an ar-s. My point is very valid. The whole way we define and deal with teenagers in this country is so old fashioned. In Africa and other parts of the world it is routine for people of this age to be parents. You don't become an adult when you turn 18. Christ, in most parts of the world by that age you are one-third the way through your life. Perhaps if we stop treating young adults as kids and show them some respect they might rise to the challenge and grow up. Sorry, they are under sixteen so legally they are children.
miserableoldgit Posted 24 February, 2009 Posted 24 February, 2009 Still, I suppose we've all ****ed a miner at some point. Didn`t you find that the coal-dust got everywhere though??
Big John Posted 24 February, 2009 Posted 24 February, 2009 Still, I suppose we've all ****ed a miner at some point. Are you Maggie Thatcher?
ART Posted 26 March, 2009 Posted 26 March, 2009 Hahaha!!! :D:D British's worst kept secret is revealed. Little Alfie ain't the daddy!!! DNA test proves he wasn't the father. Now all it needs is for Nathan Dyer to be linked and this will go down as the news story of the century! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/03/26/exclusive-dna-tests-show-boy-dad-alfie-patten-is-not-the-daddy-115875-21227974/
Saints11 Posted 26 March, 2009 Posted 26 March, 2009 Hahaha!!! :D:D British's worst kept secret is revealed. Little Alfie ain't the daddy!!! DNA test proves he wasn't the father. Now all it needs is for Nathan Dyer to be linked and this will go down as the news story of the century! http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/03/26/exclusive-dna-tests-show-boy-dad-alfie-patten-is-not-the-daddy-115875-21227974/ "Dad-of-ten Dennis(!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) regularly spoke on his son’s behalf. After Maisie’s birth he said: “He hasn’t a clue what a baby means and can’t explain how he feels. When I spoke to him he started crying"
equalizer Posted 26 March, 2009 Posted 26 March, 2009 So she's had at least 6 sexual partners at the age of 15 probably all without protection. Her mother must be so proud! He's had a lucky escape, probably won't stop him doing it again though, and I wonder how many kids by different fathers she will have in the next ten years?
bridge too far Posted 26 March, 2009 Posted 26 March, 2009 So will he have to pay back some of the wedge he got for his (non) story?
Mao Cap Posted 26 March, 2009 Posted 26 March, 2009 Heard that the girl thought that the father could be any one of five people, and yet that little lad's super sperm beat the lot of them. Well done, kiddo I was wrong hard luck son, better luck next time.
Weston Super Saint Posted 26 March, 2009 Posted 26 March, 2009 Looks like the story has been pulled http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/top-stories/2009/03/26/exclusive-dna-tests-show-boy-dad-alfie-patten-is-not-the-daddy-115875-21227974/
ART Posted 27 March, 2009 Posted 27 March, 2009 Appears the Mirror could be in big trouble for breaking the court enforced silence on the Alfie Patten story. Here's the explanation of what happened and how the story is still available across the world. http://www.currybet.net/cbet_blog/2009/03/press_and_google.php
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