Legod Third Coming Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Indeed. It has more to do with those financial city types / banksters (in Iceland on Thames) who not only screwed the banks, but also screwed the economy to the detriment of entrepreneurs and real wealth creators. Exactly, I run a business and try to borrow nothing but my mortgage(s) against which I could have secured sensible business debt. But some morons who have never done a real day's work in their life, firk my business plan because they bought some third-world mortgage without ever checking what they were buying, oh and were paid a million-dollar bonus for the privelege. And unlike the Murphy's I'm bitter as hell!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr X Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Sorry, I see a difference. I believe SFC has contributed to its own plight during a backdrop of economic catastrophe with inept management. There is no indication that I am aware of that Crouch's company has been ineptly managed. Has Barclays or HSBC suffered the same ridiculous losses as RBS or HBOS ??? I think you've miss interpreted that, I wasn't implying that sfc is well run in fact the opposite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I think you've miss interpreted that, I wasn't implying that sfc is well run in fact the opposite. Apologies Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonah Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Labour are spinning the whole crisis to try to find a point of blame to which the UK electorate can relate - first it was the US and their sub-prime which had caused it all and it couldn't possibly spread to here, now it's the naughty bankers being too greedy. Back to reality, and it has far more to do with (a) government policy, (b) regulators, and © credit agencies - banks will always work within the framework and boundaries they are given, which are set by the government and regulated by the FSA. However when a credit agency says a turd is a golden ingot, that compounds the errors with the first 2 problems. Rule number 1 of politics though, find someone else to blame... I'm surprised that's not our club motto by now. Do we have a club motto?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Labour are spinning the whole crisis to try to find a point of blame to which the UK electorate can relate - first it was the US and their sub-prime which had caused it all and it couldn't possibly spread to here, now it's the naughty bankers being too greedy. Back to reality, and it has far more to do with (a) government policy, (b) regulators, and © credit agencies - banks will always work within the framework and boundaries they are given, which are set by the government and regulated by the FSA. However when a credit agency says a turd is a golden ingot, that compounds the errors with the first 2 problems. Rule number 1 of politics though, find someone else to blame... I'm surprised that's not our club motto by now. Do we have a club motto?? Wow, does this all sound unerringly familiar, or what ??? I am beginning to wonde if jonah and Lowe are one-and-the-same. They certainly bleat the same "everyone's fault but mine" line... This thread at least proves jonah is a banker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Redundancies are never nice. I also imagine we have many Ford workers at SFC. They used to make the best van in the world and are now "surplus to requirements" as their jobs are going over seas. Globilization is always touted by the rich and powerful as a means to make us all better off. Utter rubbish. The only people who benifit are the rich who get even richer off the backs of cheap foreign labour while skilled British workers (of all colours and religions) end up having to apply to be 'welcomers' at Asda. The government doesn't give too drops of p!ss about us. They have milked the system for so long that their bank accounts and pension pots are overflowing. Jacqui Smith gets £24,000 a year to live with her sister for f\/cks sake. Meanwhile hard working people up and down the country, people who just want to earn a decent, stable wage to feed their families are slung on to the "Globalization skip" and left to rot. Obama has got it right. He has instructed all departments in the US government to only buy American steel and other stuff. When is our craven government going to do likewise? Sorry, I know this is supposed to be a football thread but I get so wound up when I see the state our country is in. Over the past decade the rich have got super-fabously wealthy thanks to globalization but the average man on the football terrace has seen his real wage FALL. If any smarmy politician says that having "free trade" is a good thing I swear to God I will punch his f@cking lights out. Good for the rich. NOT GOOD FOR THE WORKERS OF THIS COUNTRY. Now back to the footy: LOWE OUT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Wow, does this all sound unerringly familiar, or what ??? I am beginning to wonde if jonah and Lowe are one-and-the-same. They certainly bleat the same "everyone's fault but mine" line... This thread at least proves jonah is a banker Equally though, when this thread started and slowly unwinded, it did dawn on me that perhaps you and Crouch were involved in some kind of civil ceremony. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Equally though, when this thread started and slowly unwinded, it did dawn on me that perhaps you and Crouch were involved in some kind of civil ceremony. I prefer Crouch Canoodler. Has a real zing to it i feel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I prefer Crouch Canoodler. Has a real zing to it i feel. Crouch kissing c*ck fondler is probably too much of a mouthful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 wasnt there a thread a couple of weeks back showing that one of lowes companies (or part companies) was doing badly and the usual mob were out in force saying what a shyte business man he is...? now the shoe is on the other foot............................... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Surely the relevant part of this information is that if Crouch's firm are laying people off it is because they are struggling like everyone else & therefore Crouch is highly unlikely to be willing or able to pump money into the Saints & therefore everyone seeing him as some sort of saviour are severely deluding themselves. He like Wilde & (probably) Lowe are all feeling the pinch and none of them are that keen to dig deep to do any more than preserve what little value remains of their shareholding. And the reality is that all the other potential investors we all keep fantasising about are seeing their fortunes diminish before their eyes and a moribund CCC club doesn't look like a good way to spend their cash People on here seem totally unable to grasp this point - the Three Amigos would all probably like out, Crouch included, but they can't escape. They hate each other but they are bound to each other like some hideous torture (which is the only bit that makes me feel better about it), for eternity, dreading administration and wipeout but unable to make peace and move forward. It is no wonder the whole club is paralysed at the moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1976_Child Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Surely the relevant part of this information is that if Crouch's firm are laying people off it is because they are struggling like everyone else & therefore Crouch is highly unlikely to be willing or able to pump money into the Saints & therefore everyone seeing him as some sort of saviour are severely deluding themselves. He like Wilde & (probably) Lowe are all feeling the pinch and none of them are that keen to dig deep to do any more than preserve what little value remains of their shareholding. And the reality is that all the other potential investors we all keep fantasising about are seeing their fortunes diminish before their eyes and a moribund CCC club doesn't look like a good way to spend their cash People on here seem totally unable to grasp this point - the Three Amigos would all probably like out, Crouch included, but they can't escape. They hate each other but they are bound to each other like some hideous torture (which is the only bit that makes me feel better about it), for eternity, dreading administration and wipeout but unable to make peace and move forward. It is no wonder the whole club is paralysed at the moment Exactly. And even the Arabs have less spare cash now that a barrel of oil is a quarter the price it was in the summer. Seriously, this country is screwed. We are heading for a depression which will make the 1930s look like a pic-nic. And people still think that there is a saviour for our FC out there? The only feasible way is if 50,000 fans each put in £50 and we buy the club. EDIT: sorry I meant £500 quid... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bungle Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I think this thread clearly proves alpine is an ignorant, vile, hypocritical human being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I think this thread clearly proves alpine is an ignorant, vile, hypocritical human being. Yes, but don't gloss over things. He has a bad side too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fish fingers Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I think this thread clearly proves alpine is an ignorant, vile, hypocritical human being. i just thought he was a ****, but your words are much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 What a load of bolllocks. For one, I dont believe you that you would not have used it against Crouch. Secondly, there is a wide range of examples to choose from of posters on here with a given agenda using the plight of one of the 3 Amegos's other business interests as a stick to beat them with. I can give one immediately, Guided Missile's (or jonah's, for that matter) continued, regular and obsessive pursuit of Wilde via Merlion. Sorry, does not Merlion employ people that could lose their job just like anyone else ? Does he think of this when he uses Merlion as a stick with which to beat Wilde. I doubt it. So come down off your high horse. There's no point posting what a load of ******** in response to a post that was totally honest. You are either totally blinkered, not very bright or get confused easily. I will say it again to you, try to accept it, its not hard I have no doubt that Crouch is a good and succesful business man. Has been, and will continue to do so. The only criticism I have ever made of him (which I stand by and would give you no reason to make you believe that I would have used these redeundancies against him) is that his comments and PR campaign is negative and lowering him to the same level of name calling that Lowe uses. Once again I am sorry I can't prove you theory that this information will be used for point scoring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 what type of sick brain uses the tragedy of 50 people losing their jobs and their famillies detriment to try and get polital points on an internet forum. LC and RL have made more money in their careers than 99% of people on here. No points can be made out of peoples misery over a damned game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 what type of sick brain uses the tragedy of 50 people losing their jobs and their famillies detriment to try and get polital points on an internet forum. LC and RL have made more money in their careers than 99% of people on here. No points can be made out of peoples misery over a damned game. In the Echo. Just thought I'd get this in before the likes of Jonah try to use it to justify why Crouch would be such a poor chairman compared to Lowe. How many people has SFC made redundant in recent times ??? At least Crouch's firm are doing it because they are suffering from the economic crisis, whereas SFC had to do because they are being run, well, shiiit.... .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I always imagine Alpine Saint as a troll living under a bridge somewhere on the dark side of a mountain getting his kicks from writing relentlessly negative diatribes on here and scaring billy-goats Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I think this thread clearly proves alpine is an ignorant, vile, hypocritical human being. Combined with the "How can Matt Le Tiss stand by as the club he proclaims to love crumbles" comment truely has removed what little credibility alpine had left in my eyes... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SFKA South Woodford Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I seem to remember that on a fair few occasions over the last few seasons, people have been advocating on message boards, that Saints should play the youth team players instead of the first teamers, as they would play for the pride of the shirt. Now that is the case, the same people are moaning again, you just can't please some people. Maybe Rupert did listen for a change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 (edited) I doubt it. So come down off your high horse. At least Crouch's firm are doing it because they are suffering from the economic crisis That one sentence shows more uninformed, unquestioning, unconditional LOVE than any one of the rogues gallery of "luvvies" ever dish out to their "hero". Say what you like about Jonah, but I can't see him going all goey eyed and melting into an orgasmic puddle if a firm Rupert was connected to laid people off. But you can hardly contain yourself at Crouch's strong, butch, bravery. Ooooh, I'm all a-tremble. But here you are, creaming yourself because your boyfriend has laid off and put 50 or more families in financial no mans land. Oh Leon, what a hero you are :smt054 so strong :smt054so brave:smt054 so business savvy :smt054 and so rich :smt054 you can afford £2m for a football side project but not £2m to keep 50 people in work :smt054I've wet my pants. :smt054 Welcome to the strange world of the Crouch Luvvie. Alpine's Love that dare not speak its name. PS - when you have a mo, can you go into detail about the whys and wherefores of these 50 redundancies, as you seem to be convinced you know all the details. Do let us know. Because you wouldn't just take anything he said at face value surely? Don't Luvvies do that? Edited 13 February, 2009 by CB Fry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 But here you are, creaming yourself because your boyfriend has laid off and put 50 or more families in financial no mans land. What a genuinely ridiculous twist of my comments to come to that conclusion. I really marvel at the mewling, puking and faux-moral "outrage" that this thread has provoked. As if the likes of nickh really give a flying-f**k about the 50 families involved... I stand by what I wrote. If I hadnt started this thread, one of the usual suspects would have come on here and wrote something about Crouch's suitability to run SFC when "he cant even run his own company". And all you luvvies f**king know it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 calm down love, think you protest too much about there are all these lowe luvvies out there! lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 What a genuinely ridiculous twist of my comments to come to that conclusion. I really marvel at the mewling, puking and faux-moral "outrage" that this thread has provoked. As if the likes of nickh really give a flying-f**k about the 50 families involved... I stand by what I wrote. If I hadnt started this thread, one of the usual suspects would have come on here and wrote something about Crouch's suitability to run SFC when "he cant even run his own company". And all you luvvies f**king know it. I wish you Crouch Canoodlers would go and play somewhere else. You seem to be obsessed with the idea of him teabagging you while calling you his *****. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I wish you Crouch Canoodlers would go and play somewhere else. You seem to be obsessed with the idea of him teabagging you while calling you his *****. I think i actually prefer Crouch Potato. Makes me think of alpine as Mr Potato Head at his keyboard... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I wish you Crouch Canoodlers would go and play somewhere else. You seem to be obsessed with the idea of him teabagging you while calling you his *****. sorry, you will have to explain "teabagging" to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 sorry, you will have to explain "teabagging" to me. In my world it is when you swing your knacker sack into your birds face, to translate simply replace me with Crouch and my bird with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuengirola Saint Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Interesting. He's apparently got £2m to put in to Southampton Football Club providing Lowe and Wilde do the same, but hasnt got the money to put in to save his workforce from the scrapheap... Much as i would support the return of Leon Crouch over the two numpties we have at the moment, i will say this poster has a valid point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 In my world it is when you swing your knacker sack into your birds face, to translate simply replace me with Crouch and my bird with you. hehehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_John Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 ... there weren't even any such comments about Lowe when RF Webb had problems - it's just an unfortunate part of the downturn and usually nothing to do with how the company is being run. I think you are missing an important point about RF Webb. In 2002 when the management buyout occurred (same management for the previous 10 years) they employed 150 people with a turnover of £15M, see :- http://archive.thisishampshire.net/2002/7/16/62978.html Six years later after being purchased by Lowe Holdings (2005 I think) they were talking about making 19 of their 53 employees redundant because of a lost contract. http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=6327 The talk of 53 to 34 may well be because of the "downturn", however the important point is the 150 to 53 in the "good years" ! What did they do employ only U18s and send their older staff out on loan to rival companies ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 At least he can afford the £2million and maybe more now Still as he made 2 million and change last year he could give some back to prop up Lymington Precision couldn't he?. I mean that's always the logic behind your Lowian arguments isn't it. Personally I don't give a ****. LP was bought out by it's management some time ago, how Crouch came out of that being both seller and buyer I have never understood. Good luck to the man , Wellworthy has always been a good little company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 What a genuinely ridiculous twist of my comments to come to that conclusion. I really marvel at the mewling, puking and faux-moral "outrage" that this thread has provoked. As if the likes of nickh really give a flying-f**k about the 50 families involved... I stand by what I wrote. If I hadnt started this thread, one of the usual suspects would have come on here and wrote something about Crouch's suitability to run SFC when "he cant even run his own company". And all you luvvies f**king know it. That's right, I'm a Lowe luvvie now. What is laughable is you starting a nasty little thread and using the premise that "someone else would have done it from the other side" as a reason for doing so. If you were so sure, why not keep your powder dry, wait for Jonah or whoever to start it (lets assume they would, even though I am not sure) and then take them apart then? You haven't got the moral high ground here because you started the nasty little thread. No one else. And anyway my point is this - don't dare crow about "OS Spin" or "Lowe spin" or how people that decide to think differently to you as "gullable" or "fooled by Lowe's PR machine". You haven't got a fu c king clue why Crouch let those people go, but you've decided that it was for glorious, healthy, fantastic reasons because someone from his company said so and he works for Leon who can't ever be wrong..... In other words - you've swallowed the spin whole, lapped it up like the lap dog Crouchpotato you are. Unquestioning, unconditional love. Lap it up LeonLuvvie :smt054 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 (edited) Anyway it says why in the Echo, downturn in oil and gas industry. So they give 50 out of 180 (or so) the shove. It's no big deal really, we're in a global recession, people who had jobs yesterday won't necessarily have them tomorrow.Oil is changing hands at under 40$ a barril, that's hitting oil companies and sheiks and stuff hard. they're not charities, if they're virtually giving the stuff away they're not going to buy equipment other than in case of dire necessity. Edited 13 February, 2009 by Window Cleaner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackie@home Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Exactly, Window Cleaner, if there is no work for employees to do, the company has no choice but to lay them off. It's got nothing to do with the wealth Crouch has accumulated over many years. What are the company supposed to do, let them stand around doing nothing for a couple of years until the whole company goes bust and everyone is out of work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 The real question is, 'Can Leon bring in £2m now bearing in mind his own business is in trouble?' In which case it would be a level playing field question instead of an obvious take Crouch as Chairman for the relegation fight as if nothing else he'd be able to afford some loanees and a better manager. It would therefore be.... Lowe or Crouch? Who would you prefer for the run in? Personally, I'd still go for Crouch. The reason is that I see more chance of him selling up later for the good of a Club he supports rather than Lowe who'll continue to play with the toy he's broken until it miraculously fixes itself or it is completely destroyed and he finally loses interest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Anyway it says why in the Echo, downturn in oil and gas industry. So they give 50 out of 180 (or so) the shove. It's no big deal really, we're in a global recession, people who had jobs yesterday won't necessarily have them tomorrow.Oil is changing hands at under 40$ a barril, that's hitting oil companies and sheiks and stuff hard. they're not charities, if they're virtually giving the stuff away they're not going to buy equipment other than in case of dire necessity. Exactly, Window Cleaner, if there is no work for employees to do, the company has no choice but to lay them off. It's got nothing to do with the wealth Crouch has accumulated over many years. What are the company supposed to do, let them stand around doing nothing for a couple of years until the whole company goes bust and everyone is out of work? The problem is you two, no-one in this thread gives a monkeys about why those people are being laid off. Alpine used it to make a pathetic cheap point against Lowe or possibly just some other people on the forum which I don't think any of us really understand, least of all Alpine. And the rest of this thread is garbage in the same vein, and I include my posts here in that. Alpine is being a nasty little arse, and he can't dig his way out of it. People being made redudant in a local firm really isn't sport for the main board of this forum, and I think the thread should be locked. The eternal Lowe debate can carry on elsewhere without Alpine using these unlucky people as a human shield for his rantings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 don't lock it -its a classic, watching a man who was teetering on the edge of rationality finally falling off before our very eyes! Just read it through again, lol! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 what type of sick brain uses the tragedy of 50 people losing their jobs and their famillies detriment to try and get polital points on an internet forum. LC and RL have made more money in their careers than 99% of people on here. No points can be made out of peoples misery over a damned game. Lol. I bet they are outraged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 10 years of a tax and spend Labour government means we are fooked as a country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 10 years of a tax and spend Labour government means we are fooked as a country.we are all fooked because the torys big banker friends gambling with our money for their own greed . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Redundancies are never nice. I also imagine we have many Ford workers at SFC. They used to make the best van in the world and are now "surplus to requirements" as their jobs are going over seas. Globilization is always touted by the rich and powerful as a means to make us all better off. Utter rubbish. The only people who benifit are the rich who get even richer off the backs of cheap foreign labour while skilled British workers (of all colours and religions) end up having to apply to be 'welcomers' at Asda. The government doesn't give too drops of p!ss about us. They have milked the system for so long that their bank accounts and pension pots are overflowing. Jacqui Smith gets £24,000 a year to live with her sister for f\/cks sake. Meanwhile hard working people up and down the country, people who just want to earn a decent, stable wage to feed their families are slung on to the "Globalization skip" and left to rot. Obama has got it right. He has instructed all departments in the US government to only buy American steel and other stuff. When is our craven government going to do likewise? Sorry, I know this is supposed to be a football thread but I get so wound up when I see the state our country is in. Over the past decade the rich have got super-fabously wealthy thanks to globalization but the average man on the football terrace has seen his real wage FALL. If any smarmy politician says that having "free trade" is a good thing I swear to God I will punch his f@cking lights out. Good for the rich. NOT GOOD FOR THE WORKERS OF THIS COUNTRY. Now back to the footy: LOWE OUT good post written from the heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 we are all fooked because the torys big banker friends gambling with our money for their own greed . And the reason they could do it was because Labour didn't regulate them. The Tories started the deregulation process in 1996 though, but Labour have been in office long enough to have corrected the error. Brown is a liar when he says the current meltdown is unprecedented - it happened in the 1920's when the stock market wasn't regulated. We are heading for a depression because Brown (and others) didn't learn from history. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 And the reason they could do it was because Labour didn't regulate them. The Tories started the deregulation process in 1996 though, but Labour have been in office long enough to have corrected the error. Brown is a liar when he says the current meltdown is unprecedented - it happened in the 1920's when the stock market wasn't regulated. We are heading for a depression because Brown (and others) didn't learn from history.i agree but this is not the old labour party, but another tory party using thenew labour name started by blair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I should have known Stanley (Baldwin) was a Tory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I should have known Stanley (Baldwin) was a Tory TBH i'm tired of mainstream politics and now vote BNP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Nope. I posted to take the wind out the sails of anyone who tried to use this news to score points against Crouch. You're just piiissed I robbed you of a golden opportunity. Nothing to do with you trying to score points over the current board in your first post of this thread..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 TBH i'm tired of mainstream politics and now vote BNP. God help us. Though it does explain a lot about your thoughtful & insightful posts........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sidthesquid Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Originally Posted by alpine_saint Nope. I posted to take the wind out the sails of anyone who tried to use this news to score points against Crouch. You're just piiissed I robbed you of a golden opportunity. Actually, I don't think anyone else would have sunk that low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Legod Third Coming Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 we are all fooked because the torys big banker friends gambling with our money for their own greed . With Tories you know where you stand. Rich, greedy bastewards and proud of it. Whereas Labour? Slimy money grabbing bastewards who spout the opposite. Hypocritical to55ers the lot. Fooled the paying public into believing they care but really: Taking bungs off F1 moguls and delaying the tobacco sponsorship ban Taking bungs off people for gongs Taking bungs off the tax-payer to live with their 'sister'... Give me an honest con any day. Despicable bunch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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