JustMike Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 England are to delay announcing their team until later with Bell expected to lose his place to Shah. Id being seriously looking at dropping Panesar too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Barfy Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Drop Bell, Sidebottom and Panesar and bring in Shah, Anderson and Rashid (who can also apparently hold a bat!). Don't get me wrong, I like Panesar, but he doesn't seemed to have developed at all since breaking into the team. He needs a bit of mentoring to improve (wasn't there talk of Shane Warne offering to help him?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Drop Bell, Sidebottom and Panesar and bring in Shah, Anderson and Rashid (who can also apparently hold a bat!). Don't get me wrong, I like Panesar, but he doesn't seemed to have developed at all since breaking into the team. He needs a bit of mentoring to improve (wasn't there talk of Shane Warne offering to help him?). yes Panesar has not progressed at all imo, too predictable and easy to pick off of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Drop Bell, Sidebottom and Panesar and bring in Shah, Anderson and Rashid (who can also apparently hold a bat!). Don't get me wrong, I like Panesar, but he doesn't seemed to have developed at all since breaking into the team. He needs a bit of mentoring to improve (wasn't there talk of Shane Warne offering to help him?). Totally agree on those changes, Panesar is stuck in a rut and actually seems to prefer bowling on greener pitches. Rashid will need careful treatment though, Gayle and Chanderpaul could be brutal. Anderson should have been playing ahead of Sidebottom anyway, Sidebottom has lost any pace he had and Bell is looking a cert to be dropped. About time too, one of my least favourite England players over the years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Saturday Boy Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Team just announced - Shah in for Bell and Anderson in for Harmison. WI to bowl first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 cant believe monty keeps his place. oh well, you never know. come on England Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 (edited) Pitch doesn't look too great, there is some concern about the state of it. It's like playing on a beach. And they are off for Rain. Edited 13 February, 2009 by Um Bongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I get the feeling this one is going to be abandoned Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Um Bongo Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 (edited) Yup, looks like. Play stopped after 1.4 overs. What a joke. Play abandoned for today. Farce. Edited 13 February, 2009 by Um Bongo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hatch Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Pathetic. Absolutely pathetic. Sack everybody concerned with this venue even being chosen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mynameisthehulk Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I just dont understand why they didnt realise this would be the situation before the match started, what a joke, gutted for those who have made the trip out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 award the game to us imo. A test nation having a ground like that, "that they have know about for weeks" and did nothing apart from roll it, is disgusting and an embarressment to the sport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 (edited) This is not the first time either - anyone remember Jamaica and the cracked pitch debacle? WI have a half-decent side emerging again but the administrators at WICB are not liked in the region and you can see why. Award the game to England and hopefully the uproar and hopefully the entire WICB will resign and do world cricket a favour. Look at the mess they made of the World Cup in 2007 - and that was with the Chinese putting big money in for the stadiums - and mugs like me had to pay well over the odds on tickets to subidise it as well when I watched England in 2004. They've also had numerous spats with Digicel, the main sponsor, which strong leadership should have avoided. Yes, the local Antigua CA has mucked up royally but WICB has oversight and the buck stops there. Imagine if someone had slipped on the outfield and done a Simon Jones at Brisbane? WICB is a bit like SFC and it's board and major shareholders - effing hopeless and need to go now. Such a pity that such a proud cricketing nation and set of fans are let down by imbeciles. Edited 13 February, 2009 by saint1977 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint1977 Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 award the game to us imo. A test nation having a ground like that, "that they have know about for weeks" and did nothing apart from roll it, is disgusting and an embarressment to the sport Totally agree, make it 1-1 and force the WICB to resign en masse. It's pathetic, Sri Lanka isn't rolling in money either but if they can get a game on at Galle just 3 years after a Tsunami, what excuse is there for this? Particularly with the Stanford 20/20 money recently as well. In fact, the ICC should tell the WICB to resign or strip them of Test status but judging by the politics and pathetic inaction over Zimbabwe, there's no chance of that happening. Even so, the ICC ought to take WICB over for 12 months and bring in it's own team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Super Saint Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I just dont understand why they didnt realise this would be the situation before the match started, what a joke, gutted for those who have made the trip out there. Yeh, me too! It must be murder having to find things to do in Antigua :shock: Look on the bright side, at least we haven't lost yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Everyone seems to be suggesting they move it to the Antigua Recreation Ground, but from what I saw of that, it's a right run-down mess. Surely there's a very simple solution, although it would involve both the WICB and ECB bending over for Allen Stanford again... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Everyone seems to be suggesting they move it to the Antigua Recreation Ground, but from what I saw of that, it's a right run-down mess. Surely there's a very simple solution, although it would involve both the WICB and ECB bending over for Allen Stanford again... i agree but i cant see that happening. From the looks of it they were trying to dig up the bowlers run ups and lay fresh turf but that wont work either, there was still too much sand underneath and not enough soil for the roots of the grass to take effect, if they couldnt have done a decent job in the weeks leading up to the test then there is no way they can do a "grass roots" job over night. The ARG is barely playable. The only solution i can see is back to back tests at the next venue, Barbados i believe, but that will obviously cause trouble with those fans that travelled to Antigua and the fact that accomodation in Barbados is already fully booked. Which ever way you look at it, its a **** up on a global scale and quite frankly, one that should not have happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustMike Posted 13 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 13 February, 2009 http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,12123_4920861,00.html having said all that..ARG on sunday it is! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrant Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Christ. Oh well, at least with them calling it the third test, it means we didn't lose this one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Leicestersaint Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Lowe out! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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