um pahars Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 I'll certainly be going along again. In Bar Risa before and then a leisurely stroll with friends and like minded supporters to register our point. It was a really good atmosphere last time, about the only thing in recent times that had a spirit of camaraderie and pleasantness about it (certainly not the bloodbath I saw some idiot predict on another list!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 My own personal opinion, for what ever its worth is that; Like a lot of other Saints fans I am totally gutted about the current state of our club. while you can be argue all day long about details, I firmly believe that Lowe and to a lesser degree Wilde are responsible for the declining fortunes of our club, and I believe we need a clean break from them both if Southampton Football Club is to one day return to its previously respected position. With no likely chance of a wealth savior riding in on a white horse with enough cash to satisfy the demands of Lowe and Wilde this leaves us the supporters with decisions to make for ourselves. They are IMHO, to carry on as if nothing was wrong behind the scenes, turning up as normal, cheering on the lads and taking whatever happens ultimately as matters beyond our control. Or, boycotting games, with the attitude of "I'm not giving any more of my hard earned to that man". Or Demonstrating in a law abiding, very liberal manor with the odd march and rally in front of closed curtains hoping that the majority of other "decent normal" fans will join the ground swell, or Create civil unrest inside and outside the ground, pitch invasions, road sit ins, pickets at Lowes house etc.. Or, you can do what I think I'm going to do which is to put my support into St Jason's STHU campaign whereby all prospective season ticket holders pledge not to renew until change has materialized. Its obviously a very personal; decision. I think one of the biggest problems is that we do not have a respected spokesperson, leader of a unified supporters movement, (i'm disregarding the Trust obviously as they are now no more than Lowes mouth piece and a place to jump the cue in the Alfred) One things for sure, its bound to get worse before things start getting better, I have never felt as angry about anything outside of my family/business in my life and I only wish we could all stop bickering about marches/walkouts/boycotts and start some unified campaigning to achieve the conclusion that the majority of us want. Finally, for those of you who will say, "ah yes but who is going to run the club when you force Lowe out" well, I think administration quickly, followed by the departure of the board, followed by new cash with a new board is possible and is the most likely way out of our problems. All IMHO DiggersThe simple fact is though, Lowe and Wilde will not resign. The club will have to stop trading before they are forced to leave. Administration will result in everything going in a fire sale. That with the points deduction will leave us with an empty shell. In the present economic situation that may be worse than supporting the present board by turning up and paying. To many I say...be careful what you wish for! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 I wish for long term prosperity over short-to-medium term mediocrity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Some thread (most of yours for example) require ruining as they are repetitive tosh. It was not my intention to ruin this thread...and i had drawn a line under my disagreement with alpine about the fact that he is the biggest attention seeker going. As it's obviously not an argument even worth having. The thread could quite easily get back on track and i'm sure it will...so i suggest you mind your own business... You are such a pompous arse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 The simple fact is though, Lowe and Wilde will not resign. The club will have to stop trading before they are forced to leave. Administration will result in everything going in a fire sale. That with the points deduction will leave us with an empty shell. In the present economic situation that may be worse than supporting the present board by turning up and paying. To many I say...be careful what you wish for! And Ron - I gather the end could well be nigh, from what a little birdie told me today. Am I correct in saying the next board meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday, which would be 3 weeks after the last one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 And Ron - I gather the end could well be nigh, from what a little birdie told me today. Am I correct in saying the next board meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday, which would be 3 weeks after the last one? 3 weeks since the last board meeting?! Is it common practice for them to be this infrequent? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aintforever Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 StuRomseysaint is 100% right a second march to the ground is completely pointless. If anything it will have the opposite effect, the message it will send to Lowe is: "we are a bunch of mugs and make lots of noise but will keep paying your wages regardless" It wont even get any press coverage because "Saints fans go on a march again" is not even a story that would make the Echo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 StuRomseysaint is 100% right a second march to the ground is completely pointless. If anything it will have the opposite effect, the message it will send to Lowe is: "we are a bunch of mugs and make lots of noise but will keep paying your wages regardless" It wont even get any press coverage because "Saints fans go on a march again" is not even a story that would make the Echo. I disagree with you about these marches being pointless. They keep us united and focussed on removing Lowe and Wilde and bring like minded people together. They keep the issue on the agenda. On their own they might not have a great effect on Lowe and his cronies but their continuation will act as a catalyst for more effectual actions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 And Ron - I gather the end could well be nigh, from what a little birdie told me today. Am I correct in saying the next board meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday, which would be 3 weeks after the last one?That is what I believe Duncan or at least scheduled for that week. The end game does indeed appear to be near. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 You are such a pompous arse. Is that code for, "He has a point?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Is that code for, "He has a point?" No, its non-code for "he's a pompous arse" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 And Ron - I gather the end could well be nigh, from what a little birdie told me today. Am I correct in saying the next board meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday, which would be 3 weeks after the last one? Dunc, I am largely in your corner on these things, but if you've got something to say, can you please bloody spell it out and not be so theatrical ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 No, its non-code for "he's a pompous arse" Oh right. It comes across as, "I can't argue those points so will just make a cheap insult due to not having much knowledge on the subject", that's all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Is that code for, "He has a point?" It's code for "i'm trying to get my pot calling kettle black quota up for the day" That "anti everything just to get some attention" is f::cking hilarious though... And just so to keep the thread on topic...i can confirm that i will be going to the pub pre match, to the match during the match, then to the pub after the match. I'm a stickler for tradition...and booze... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 And Ron - I gather the end could well be nigh, from what a little birdie told me today. Am I correct in saying the next board meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday, which would be 3 weeks after the last one? Which all fits in date-wise with the Charles Sale piece in the Daily Mail of course...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Dunc, I am largely in your corner on these things, but if you've got something to say, can you please bloody spell it out and not be so theatrical ? What, and send the share price into freefall......? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 What is significant about that board meeting? Decision about admin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 What is significant about that board meeting? Decision about admin?I have not been sent an Agenda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Dunc, I am largely in your corner on these things, but if you've got something to say, can you please bloody spell it out and not be so theatrical ? Unfortunately I have to be careful because I don't want to drop anyone in it. Based on what I have recently been told I think the club is now only a whisker away from going under and although this liklihood has been speculated upon in depth on this forum, I think the major players have now accepted the inevitable. And that could well mean, in this financial climate, the end of SFC. It is that serious. And please don't let anyone believe that the club would once again arise from the ashes of administration because, in the present climate the chances of us emulating Leeds or even P*mpey are remote. Hope that is spelt out less theatrically for you? So not much point us all arguing about the merits of Lowe, Crouch and Wilde any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hypochondriac Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 I have not been sent an Agenda Then why does Duncan bother to mention it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 It's code for "i'm trying to get my pot calling kettle black quota up for the day" That "anti everything just to get some attention" is f::cking hilarious though... And just so to keep the thread on topic...i can confirm that i will be going to the pub pre match, to the match during the match, then to the pub after the match. I'm a stickler for tradition...and booze... Skateboarding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 More importantly, does this mean the end of this message board too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Unfortunately I have to be careful because I don't want to drop anyone in it. Based on what I have recently been told I think the club is now only a whisker away from going under and although this liklihood has been speculated upon in depth on this forum, I think the major players have now accepted the inevitable. And that could well mean, in this financial climate, the end of SFC. It is that serious. And please don't let anyone believe that the club would once again arise from the ashes of administration because, in the present climate the chances of us emulating Leeds or even P*mpey are remote. Hope that is spelt out less theatrically for you? So not much point us all arguing about the merits of Lowe, Crouch and Wilde any more.I go along with this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northam soul Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 What is significant about that board meeting? Decision about admin? It all has to be sorted by march 3rd isnt it so i would say go and stick a tenner on us calling in the administrators by the end of next week. God if you think theres been *****ing on here recently look out the next couple of months will be the biggest soap opera ever as we will have numerous paul allen/fulthorpe/tommac stories as a bargain is there to be had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 I go along with this And I think you can vouch for my source, Ron? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 And Ron - I gather the end could well be nigh, from what a little birdie told me today. Am I correct in saying the next board meeting is scheduled for next Tuesday, which would be 3 weeks after the last one? Reading between the lines, I would venture the timeframe since the last meeting is somehow significant? Did they set themselves 3 weeks to sort something out perhaps? Are board meeting minutes for a PLC in the public domain? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 And I think you can vouch for my source, Ron?Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Unfortunately I have to be careful because I don't want to drop anyone in it. Based on what I have recently been told I think the club is now only a whisker away from going under and although this liklihood has been speculated upon in depth on this forum, I think the major players have now accepted the inevitable. And that could well mean, in this financial climate, the end of SFC. It is that serious. And please don't let anyone believe that the club would once again arise from the ashes of administration because, in the present climate the chances of us emulating Leeds or even P*mpey are remote. Hope that is spelt out less theatrically for you? So not much point us all arguing about the merits of Lowe, Crouch and Wilde any more. I don't doubt your source(s) Duncan, however I would like some clarification regarding your assertion that SFC will go under. Surely it will be SLH PLC that will take the brunt of the fall? That surely is one reason for setting the corporate structure out in this manner? And the stadium is also protected as such by the PLC? I do not pretend to be an expert in these matters, but I find it hard to believe that administration for the PLC means SFC Ltd or SMS Ltd will be dissolved as a result. The administrator will be able to see that there is a high level of customer support and something will be worked out whereby Lowe and Wilde will not be involved so 1,000's will come flooding back. :smt115 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 I don't think 1000s will come flooding back. I believe that's just anti-Lowe hyperbole, and I want the bloke gone as much as the next person (assuming the next person isn't Scooby). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 I don't think 1000s will come flooding back. I believe that's just anti-Lowe hyperbole, and I want the bloke gone as much as the next person (assuming the next person isn't Scooby). I would not be surprised if between 2,000 and 4,000 supporters at least came back to SMS if Lowe and Wilde were gone and there was renewed hope with a new owner and proper game plan for the club. I think you are not appreciating the wide extent of support for SFC - i.e. the football club. Evidence? Look at SMS last game of last season - it was rammed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 I don't doubt your source(s) Duncan, however I would like some clarification regarding your assertion that SFC will go under. Surely it will be SLH PLC that will take the brunt of the fall? That surely is one reason for setting the corporate structure out in this manner? And the stadium is also protected as such by the PLC? I do not pretend to be an expert in these matters, but I find it hard to believe that administration for the PLC means SFC Ltd or SMS Ltd will be dissolved as a result. The administrator will be able to see that there is a high level of customer support and something will be worked out whereby Lowe and Wilde will not be involved so 1,000's will come flooding back. :smt115 Can't answer the question really - I have no real knowledge of these sorts of things, perhaps someone else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1576 Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 I don't think 1000s will come flooding back. I believe that's just anti-Lowe hyperbole, and I want the bloke gone as much as the next person (assuming the next person isn't Scooby). How do you know thousands wont come back? I and at least 10 other people I know will return once Lowe is gone and not one of them post on here so I would say there will be quite a few who will return. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 I would not be surprised if between 2,000 and 4,000 supporters at least came back to SMS if Lowe and Wilde were gone and there was renewed hope with a new owner and proper game plan for the club. I think you are not appreciating the wide extent of support for SFC - i.e. the football club. Evidence? Look at SMS last game of last season - it was rammed. MUFC - it was rammed and Lowe was chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 How do you know thousands wont come back? I and at least 10 other people I know will return once Lowe is gone and not one of them post on here so I would say there will be quite a few who will return. I don't know. I just think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
spain saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Could someone perhaps help me with something? I am sure that someone told me once that Southampton have to have a sports stadium in the city as part of the councils remit of becoming a city with no cathedral. I may be wrong but doesnt that mean that the council would have to buy the stadium if no one came in to buy us? I don´t think that this will be an issue anyway as I am certain that we will be bought after admin! In fact I think that there will be more than one party to fight it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Could someone perhaps help me with something? I am sure that someone told me once that Southampton have to have a sports stadium in the city as part of the councils remit of becoming a city with no cathedral. I may be wrong but doesnt that mean that the council would have to buy the stadium if no one came in to buy us? I don´t think that this will be an issue anyway as I am certain that we will be bought after admin! In fact I think that there will be more than one party to fight it out. http://www.dca.gov.uk/constitution/city/citygj.htm#part2 Criteria City status is not, and never has been, a right which can be claimed by a town fulfilling certain conditions. The use of specific criteria could lead to a town claiming city status as of right, which in turn might devalue the honour. All applications are considered on their individual merits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 http://www.dca.gov.uk/constitution/city/citygj.htm#part2 Criteria City status is not, and never has been, a right which can be claimed by a town fulfilling certain conditions. The use of specific criteria could lead to a town claiming city status as of right, which in turn might devalue the honour. All applications are considered on their individual merits. And Portsmouth has TWO cathedrals and NO football ground (to speak of) yet is a city also. Quite what Portsmouth's 'individual merits' are, heaven only knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 MUFC - it was rammed and Lowe was chairman. Completely different set of circumstances. For the MUFC game SMS was rammed because a few 1,000 plastic MUFC 'fans' fancied seeing 'their' team. Many Saints fans preferred to stay at home, watch on the telly and save themselves an awful lot of money to see us get stuffed. And you know it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Capel Saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 The simple fact is though, Lowe and Wilde will not resign. The club will have to stop trading before they are forced to leave. Administration will result in everything going in a fire sale. That with the points deduction will leave us with an empty shell. In the present economic situation that may be worse than supporting the present board by turning up and paying. To many I say...be careful what you wish for! True, you do have to be carful what you wish for but it is clear that the club is not surviving in its current state of being run by a plc and all will happen is the continual decline of the club. The Board clearly have no money to put in themselves, the squad just gets weaker and weaker due to no investment, which in turn means wea re losing games, dropping attendances etc. It is a viscious spiral. Administration unfortunately is inevitable and possibly what Lowe wants when he will no doubt try to make a bid to buy the club on the cheap from the administrators, so he can then make money by developing Jacksons Farm. That is unless the Fulthorpe Consortium/Crouch/ Oversea Consortium can stop him! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 True, you do have to be carful what you wish for but it is clear that the club is not surviving in its current state of being run by a plc and all will happen is the continual decline of the club. The Board clearly have no money to put in themselves, the squad just gets weaker and weaker due to no investment, which in turn means wea re losing games, dropping attendances etc. It is a viscious spiral. Administration unfortunately is inevitable and possibly what Lowe wants when he will no doubt try to make a bid to buy the club on the cheap from the administrators, so he can then make money by developing Jacksons Farm. That is unless the Fulthorpe Consortium/Crouch/ Oversea Consortium can stop him!If he is so keen on Jacksons farm then surely he buys it from the Administrator without the millstone of a football club round his neck. Jacksons farm has an "agricultural" value only. It is outside the proposed development area for Hedge End and the likelyhood of any investment value is very very risky and many years away if at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Can't answer the question really - I have no real knowledge of these sorts of things, perhaps someone else? Well if that's the case, surely your comments are more than a little misleading, unless someone with extremely close links to an administrator has told you categorically that SFC will die. Administration often comes about through lack of cash-flow to service all finance streams - not necessarily due to lack of business as such, although clearly there are close links. Sure, there would need to be a complete re-assessment of the financial state of the company, however many of the adverse financial aspects for the company would be dramatically altered I would imagine - e.g. player contracts terminating? And anyway, I would suspect that once the diverse shareholding that exists due to the PLC is broken up, there will be more than one potential buyer to take-over the club. If that buyer is not Lowe or Wilde, I think cash-flow will cease to be a problem. I have seen many cases where corporate change is resisted because the stakeholders are scared to take a 'leap of faith' into the unknown. But if survival is dependent on change then we should embrace it and not fear it. IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 If he is so keen on Jacksons farm then surely he buys it from the Administrator without the millstone of a football club round his neck. Jacksons farm has an "agricultural" value only. It is outside the proposed development area for Hedge End and the likelyhood of any investment value is very very risky and many years away if at all. R - you know much more about all this than I do and I think I've asked this question before. I now realise that JF was indeed 'sold' to the club but could there be a covenant on it to say that it can only be sold on if it STILL belongs to the club so that the proceeds go to the club alone? In other words, it could not be hived off in the event of administration? Extreme straw clutching going on here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Well if that's the case, surely your comments are more than a little misleading, unless someone with extremely close links to an administrator has told you categorically that SFC will die. Administration often comes about through lack of cash-flow to service all finance streams - not necessarily due to lack of business as such, although clearly there are close links. Sure, there would need to be a complete re-assessment of the financial state of the company, however many of the adverse financial aspects for the company would be dramatically altered I would imagine - e.g. player contracts terminating? And anyway, I would suspect that once the diverse shareholding that exists due to the PLC is broken up, there will be more than one potential buyer to take-over the club. If that buyer is not Lowe or Wilde, I think cash-flow will cease to be a problem. I have seen many cases where corporate change is resisted because the stakeholders are scared to take a 'leap of faith' into the unknown. But if survival is dependent on change then we should embrace it and not fear it. IMHO. was not posting misleading info - merely passing on what came from an absolute impeccable source. I have no idea what happens next if we go into the prophesised administration, true, but should that have stopped me posting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 If he is so keen on Jacksons farm then surely he buys it from the Administrator without the millstone of a football club round his neck. Jacksons farm has an "agricultural" value only. It is outside the proposed development area for Hedge End and the likelyhood of any investment value is very very risky and many years away if at all. I agree with this. The whole Jacksons Farm conspiracy theory is bullsh1t imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John D Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 was not posting misleading info - merely passing on what came from an absolute impeccable source. I have no idea what happens next if we go into the prophesised administration, true, but should that have stopped me posting? For the avoidance of doubt - can you confirm that your source has said we will go into administration following the next board meeting or if they said it is due to be discussed at the next board meeting. Sorry for being picky - but this is a disaster if true thanks John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 For the avoidance of doubt - can you confirm that your source has said we will go into administration following the next board meeting or if they said it is due to be discussed at the next board meeting. Sorry for being picky - but this is a disaster if true thanks John I think you will find no-one will give out that kind of information. Otherwise watch the share price crumble away as shareholders try to sell at 16p to beat the guillotine. Shortly followed by an investigation into who leaked what and when. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weston Saint Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 R - you know much more about all this than I do and I think I've asked this question before. I now realise that JF was indeed 'sold' to the club but could there be a covenant on it to say that it can only be sold on if it STILL belongs to the club so that the proceeds go to the club alone? In other words, it could not be hived off in the event of administration? Extreme straw clutching going on here I am unaware of any covenants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 The simple fact is though, Lowe and Wilde will not resign. The club will have to stop trading before they are forced to leave. Administration will result in everything going in a fire sale. That with the points deduction will leave us with an empty shell. In the present economic situation that may be worse than supporting the present board by turning up and paying. To many Shareholders I say...be careful what you wish for! Fixed it for you... (Anyone with shares of course will argue against administration - or indeed plant scare stories telling how bad administration will be. Not being critical - if I hadn't of dumped my shares at 60p I would probably be saying the same thing!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bowers-sfc Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 just got a phone call from bbc. inside out will be there as they are doing a show the south coast football and the situation we are all in. anyone want to do interviews. someone older would look better for this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 19 February, 2009 Share Posted 19 February, 2009 Completely different set of circumstances. For the MUFC game SMS was rammed because a few 1,000 plastic MUFC 'fans' fancied seeing 'their' team. Many Saints fans preferred to stay at home, watch on the telly and save themselves an awful lot of money to see us get stuffed. And you know it! We had over 30,000 that day, up from about 15,000 a month earlier. They weren't all united fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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