Window Cleaner Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 SKACEL IS NOT A LEFT BACK AND NEVER WILL BE! FOR F*!KS SAKE PLAY HIM IN THE CORRECT POSITION AND WE MIGHT SEE SOME RESULTS! :mad: There Mr X you are partially wrong. Skacel started out as a left back at Sparta Prague and was used mainly in that role after his transfer to Marseille.When Burley first saw him he was playing --left back-- but Burley decided that he could play anywhere down the left side and used him more as a midfielder at Hearts.However we find trace of him playing left back even at Hearts,under Burley,because there were allegations of him being a cheating bastard whilst playing at left back during a cup game at Hibs.I won't put that link up because Spyware Doctor says it's toxic and I don't want everyone who is less well protected to catch some naughty trojan or other. I believe it was Burley last season who moved him back to left back,which of course didn't please Skacel because he wanted to get into the Czech Euro squad and at left back he had no chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 There Mr X you are partially wrong. Skacel started out as a left back at Sparta Prague and was used mainly in that role after his transfer to Marseille.When Burley first saw him he was playing --left back-- but Burley decided that he could play anywhere down the left side and used him more as a midfielder at Hearts.However we find trace of him playing left back even at Hearts,under Burley,because there were allegations of him being a cheating bastard whilst playing at left back during a cup game at Hibs.I won't put that link up because Spyware Doctor says it's toxic and I don't want everyone who is less well protected to catch some naughty trojan or other. I believe it was Burley last season who moved him back to left back,which of course didn't please Skacel because he wanted to get into the Czech Euro squad and at left back he had no chance. NO HE WAS NOT..ffs everytime this gets said on here and everytime it is not true Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
del boy Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Then why not make the point without the heavy sarcasm ? I prefer to think of it as verbal irony - the use of words to convey something other than, and especially the opposite of, the literal meaning of the words, to emphasize, aggrandize, or make light of a circumstance or subject. Having said that - I look forward to seeing Rudi back if he wants to play. The team's stronger with an enthusiastic Rudi in it and I'll be willing him on after 80 mins if he lasts that long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 NO HE WAS NOT..ffs everytime this gets said on here and everytime it is not true Explain this then please http://www.lfp.fr/joueur/index.asp?no_joueur=107161 esp the bit that has his position as Defenseur!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Explain this then please http://www.lfp.fr/joueur/index.asp?no_joueur=107161 esp the bit that has his position as Defenseur!! ok...from the man himself..unless of course he is lying.. Before getting hurt, Skacel was in fine form in the unfamiliar role of left-back and he is hoping to pick up where he left off. He said: "I hope I can come back at the same level as I was at before I got hurt. "It was frustrating because I was playing well but at least with the international break it meant I only missed a couple of matches. "There is never a good time to get injured and it was disappointing as things were going well for me. But now I am 100 per cent fit and ready to play." Skacel is ready to slot into the side in any position but admits he has enjoyed his spell at left-back. He added: "I don't care where I play as long as I am in the team. I'll even go in goal! "I played left-back a few times when I was at Marseille but really it is a new position for me do you want the link..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bad Bob Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 ok...from the man himself..unless of course he is lying.. do you want the link..? He's lying :smt022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 He's lying :smt022 All know is that he played at left back at Marseille, again at Panathanaikos and last summer he replaced an injured left back in the Czech Squad. He is a wannabee midfielder, just because he scored a lot of goals at Hearts. He may well be excellent there as well but he was signed at Marseille as a left back, laterale gauche whatever you want to call it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 What's all this left back talk though? That has only recently become a bit of a makeshift position 'cos we had nobody else so I reckon it's worth trying him further forward, where IMHO he might offer us more. Strange as it seems - Skacel started his career at left back in his homeland. When Burley had him at Hearts, he played him in midfiéld ..(and several other positions too, according to GB interview when RS signed). He started as left midfield with us (eventually with Bale as LB).. and so he's had different roles, but fans don't see him as LB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint_clark Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I'd rather see Skacel at LB* than anyone else. Molyneux is f*cking awful, and Surman is needed in midfield. *Even if he is not a "proper" left back, he is still better than anything else we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
david in sweden Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 ok...from the man himself..unless of course he is lying.. do you want the link..? Don't know that anyone is contradicting you,but it's certainly a " new-ish" position for him in OUR line-up (if that what he means). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Strange as it seems - Skacel started his career at left back in his homeland. When Burley had him at Hearts, he played him in midfiéld ..(and several other positions too, according to GB interview when RS signed). He started as left midfield with us (eventually with Bale as LB).. and so he's had different roles, but fans don't see him as LB! guess rudi was lying to us then Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Window Cleaner Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 guess rudi was lying to us then Not really lying DD, maximising his talents shall we say. Yer average LB is worth four and tuppence on the transfer market. A flair midfielder who scores goals by the shedload, now you're talking money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Village Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 SKACEL IS NOT A LEFT BACK AND NEVER WILL BE! FOR F*!KS SAKE PLAY HIM IN THE CORRECT POSITION AND WE MIGHT SEE SOME RESULTS! :mad: I never understand why people using shouting as an alternative to thinking. Anyone with a smattering of knowledge of Skacel's career will know that he always was a left back as indeed is obvious from seeing him play. However when he played in the Blue Square Premier League (well the same standard) with Hearts he was was given a go in midfield and lo - against that quality of player - he did okay and even scored a few goals. It didn't make hime a midfielder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thedelldays Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I never understand why people using shouting as an alternative to thinking. Anyone with a smattering of knowledge of Skacel's career will know that he always was a left back as indeed is obvious from seeing him play. However when he played in the Blue Square Premier League (well the same standard) with Hearts he was was given a go in midfield and lo - against that quality of player - he did okay and even scored a few goals. It didn't make hime a midfielder. do people actually read the thread before posting..? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
InvictaSaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Christ on a bike. It really isn't difficult. If he had no plan B to EVER bring the loan players back they would have just been sold. They were loaned to give him THAT plan B. It really is that simple, which is why he has done it. The bank do not want the lower revenue of League one either, so off load the wages for the first half of the season with an option to have them save us if required was his plan from day one. Do you get it now? That is the crux of it all, whether you or I like it or not, that is obviously what has been said to the banks in his plan. That should be Spends, plural. No, it's third person singular. The 's' doesn't automatically make it plural. I'm sure you will call me a pedant for pointing this out, which is fine by me. I still happen to believe that correct grammar is important. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Totally agree, although I wouldn't mind seeing him in the hole behind a front two, too. How rude Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saint Fan CaM Posted 12 February, 2009 Share Posted 12 February, 2009 I'd rather see Rudi play left midfield, where he should be. But Molecule is just too weak at LB. Perhaps if Molyneux had some decent cover down the right wing he would not get so exposed. I remember there have been a number of defenders who have been criticised on here, only later to 'come good' as they bed into the team. Now I'm not one to argue for the Dutch revolution, but I think its a bit harsh giving this guy a hard time when he having to play under this failed system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 I don't really know ...... I mean, Lowe insisted that we play with Youth, adopted a Dutch Masters "Total Football" concept, appointed Edam & Gouda, sold or loaned out any player that could score a goal .......... ....... Then, he SACKED Poortvliet ( you don't really believed he quit do you), and slowly but surely, players with EXPERIENCE are now being picked So, the return of Skacel in the Squad .......... CLIMBDOWN FOR LOWE ???? ....... whatever makes you think that ???? Unfortunately, SIX MONTHS too late Well, if Skacel had never played under JP then you might have point. But he did - so you don't. Ooooh, I dont know let me guess.... Being told to go to Ipswich or to rot in training without ever playing a game again for the length of his contract ???????:rolleyes: Only he has played for us since his moved to Ipswich fell through. Playing for the first XI is hardly rotting in training, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arizona Posted 13 February, 2009 Share Posted 13 February, 2009 Interesting stuff. I can't blame Skacel for wanting out. Let's be honnest, if ANY of our current squad got a decent offer, they'd be out of here in a flash. Thing is, I can't see any Prem teams swooping for the likes of David McGoalkick or Lloyd James. I said in summer we'd be better off keeping Saga than John. Didn't think John was going to do quite this badly though. 2 goals in 19 games at City, plus one (Rotherham) in 10 for us. 3 goals in 30 odd appearances (sound familiar). Saga on the other hand has 9 in the same number of games. I think John would have done better if he had been here and playing with Saga, but if I'm honnest I'd have Rasiak beack before him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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