OldNick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Couldn't agree more, and where are Leicester City? Only sitting at the top of their league. Just waiting for them to pass us going up as we go down. Shame, but poetic justice! What an awfult thing to say.if you are a Saints fan how can you ever think us going down is poetic justice.You need a word with yourself if you think that is OK just so RL looks bad. i may also say that some think that NP will gloat, i think he would rather 20 other clubs in or league go down before we did.He strikes me as a decent man who liked the support he got from our fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 (edited) DP,i think SOME people may be over-estimating Pearson on the limited evidence so far. However,most are just stating that he should have been given a chance this season,and not just cast aside to asuage? Lowes ego. The problem is that this season will be viewed intrinsically in terms of getting rid of Pearson and replacing him with foreign coaches of no note and no experience of British lower league football. People must remember that this is the 6th most important league in Europe.No other chairman would have made the decision that Lowe made. Which amply demonstrates that this season is more about Lowes ego than anything else. Edited 11 February, 2009 by 1965onwards Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 DP,i think SOME people may be over-estimating Pearson on the limited evidence so far. In your opening post you put 'He is a class act who commands respect' Seems you may be part of the SOME Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VectisSaint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I think Ferguson and Martinez might shade it, tbf. Think Ferguson is a bit old to be called the hottest young managerial prospect in England. As Wales is not in England Martinez is also not a candidate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eelpie Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 In your opening post you put 'He is a class act who commands respect' Seems you may be part of the SOME It really doesn't matter if we mortals recall Pearson as the messiah who was spurned. The fact is, he was doing a decent job. Was a good motivator. Wanted to be here. And he could have done a much better job than those brought in to replace him. Circumstantial evidence is that we would have performed better with Pearson. That's good enough for me. That's enough for me to be very angry with Lowe's cazy decisions. I envy Leicester's good fortune. Good luck to them. But I will never forgive Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB Fry Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Think Ferguson is a bit old to be called the hottest young managerial prospect in England. As Wales is not in England Martinez is also not a candidate. Martinez is 35, Ferguson is 37. Not sure how being two years older qualifies as "a bit old". Age-wise, both of them could still play professionally. 37 is young for a manager by any standards. And, err, Nigel Pearson is 45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Not at all Nickh. He IS s a class act as far as persona and demeanor is concerned,and is why the Saints fans instinctively took to him.Manager-wise is too early for a proper assessment,but i would be surprised if a prem club did not take him at some stage,if he does not get there with Leicester. I am a people expert Nickh,which is why i knew Burley and JP would fail.They are typical of managers who cannot command the respect of players,despite what players may say to the press,as we are seeing this week at Chelsea.You cannot succeed as a manager these days unless the players are 100% with you.This is why Benitez will ultimately fail. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Not at all Nickh. He IS s a class act as far as persona and demeanor is concerned,and is why the Saints fans instinctively took to him.Manager-wise is too early for a proper assessment,but i would be surprised if a prem club did not take him at some stage,if he does not get there with Leicester. I am a people expert Nickh,which is why i knew Burley and JP would fail.They are typical of managers who cannot command the respect of players,despite what players may say to the press,as we are seeing this week at Chelsea.You cannot succeed as a manager these days unless the players are 100% with you.This is why Benitez will ultimately fail. I'm sure the Champion's League winners medal will take away the sting of your damning assessment of Benitez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 The fact is, he was doing a decent job. But I will never forgive Lowe. If Burley was cr@p and was getting more points per game than Pearson, then how was Pearson "doing a decent job"? The last point is more telling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Not at all Nickh. He IS s a class act as far as persona and demeanor is concerned,and is why the Saints fans instinctively took to him.Manager-wise is too early for a proper assessment,but i would be surprised if a prem club did not take him at some stage,if he does not get there with Leicester. I am a people expert Nickh,which is why i knew Burley and JP would fail.They are typical of managers who cannot command the respect of players,despite what players may say to the press,as we are seeing this week at Chelsea.You cannot succeed as a manager these days unless the players are 100% with you.This is why Benitez will ultimately fail. I dont know what a people expert is 1965. I try and assess each and everyone for their merits. NP IMO should have stayed as I enjoyed seeing the fans united.Although after the Burnley/Coventry home games there were not many who came on spouting how great a manager he was. I am well with the people who say RL made a mistake letting him go and also for not of getting rid of Jan.I myself think it is unfair to judge Wotte after 3 games. I again will tell you that the squad is united and they are feeling more confident in what is going on since he took over. I resad on here that the players hate him, I think that is wrong and are starting to if not already respect him and know they will move forward under him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Liverpool fans and owners look on it differently to you Scudamore,which is slightly more relevant than your views. Your posts are a clear indication that you know nothing about football,like your bum-pal Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Liverpool fans and owners look on it differently to you Scudamore,which is slightly more relevant than your views. Your posts are a clear indication that you know nothing about football,like your bum-pal Lowe.The Liverpool fans still sing his name and so there is a way to go yet, although Im with you as i dislike him intensely. Giving out an abusive reply to Scud does you no favours as you have been well behaved so far on this thread.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 why do I have to have an agenda to think pearson is average..? at what point did I even mention lowe..?thats what happens ,the lowe luvvies are those ****s who keep on about him all the time ,starting threads all the time ,has their lives have no meaning without the guy:D they love to twist your words if you do not agree with their mindset. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I am with you on Wotte Nickh. I don't take too much notice of his record in Holland,you only have to look at the shenanigans that has gone on in the national squad the last 15 years to see that the Dutch ego makes managing almost impossible. Glad to see your info about the players view of Wotte ties in with my assessment.We may get out of this yet. LOWE OUT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I am a people expert Nickh Was it just me that found this funny as fu(k and a little self righteous? Did you go to People Expert College and do a degree on "Understanding Humans Better than what others do" or is it just a title you gave yourself to fill a void left by an empty education? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PhilB Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Should've kept hold of NP, simple as that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Just playing games Nickh,although i view those who give even tacit support to the nazzarine? as on a level with him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Liverpool fans and owners look on it differently to you Scudamore,which is slightly more relevant than your views. Your posts are a clear indication that you know nothing about football,like your bum-pal Lowe. I have lived in Liverpool for the last nine years. Are you telling me that Liverpool fans are not happy with Benitez? Mate, people expert or not, you talk some bum-wash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Hello JohnnyFartpants,is it your turn to have Roops bum tonight.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wes Tender Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Think Ferguson is a bit old to be called the hottest young managerial prospect in England. As Wales is not in England Martinez is also not a candidate. I think that you're thinking of the father, not the son at Posh. But even the son doesn't quite measure up at Peterborough with Pearson at Leicester IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Hello JohnnyFartpants,is it your turn to have Roops bum tonight.? You are the people expert, you tell me. "People Expert." FFS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ponty Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Hello JohnnyFartpants,is it your turn to have Roops bum tonight.? Can we please drop the abuse and just keep it civil? That goes for everyone involved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Hello JohnnyFartpants,is it your turn to have Roops bum tonight.? Now a more considered reply. Why is it that as soon as you have your credentials ripped apart you seem to think going for the jugular means insulting me about Lowe? You tell us you are a people Expert (still laughing at that BTW) and then inform me that Liverpool fans hate their manager. I correct the error of your ways so you mention Lowe. You are obsessed with the man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Liverpool fans are ready to get nasty with Benitez any moment.As they fall away in the League. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I dont know what a people expert is 1965. I try and assess each and everyone for their merits. NP IMO should have stayed as I enjoyed seeing the fans united.Although after the Burnley/Coventry home games there were not many who came on spouting how great a manager he was. I am well with the people who say RL made a mistake letting him go and also for not of getting rid of Jan.I myself think it is unfair to judge Wotte after 3 games. I again will tell you that the squad is united and they are feeling more confident in what is going on since he took over. I resad on here that the players hate him, I think that is wrong and are starting to if not already respect him and know they will move forward under him. Nick, its reasurring to hear you say the squad is united and confident under Wotte. I hope he gets the same kind of spirit and commitment from the players that I believe Pearson did. Myself, and I would guess many others, will give Wotte all the backing they can to get us out of trouble because at the end of the day we don't have much choice. The two reasons I have my doubts about Wotte is: Firstly, recent history of appointing within has always failed, Dodd, Wigley, Gray. Secondly, he seems to have had little impact on the team when he was with JP. Some posters have suggested that Wotte is hated/not liked by the players yet your information would suggest differently ? can you elaborate on how you know ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Liverpool fans are ready to get nasty with Benitez any moment.As they fall away in the League. I wonder if Chelsea fans will with Abromovich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 So Liverpool fans don't think that Benitez should have done a lot better considering the amount of money he has wasted.They don't think that all his tinkering made things worse. You are wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Now a more considered reply. Why is it that as soon as you have your credentials ripped apart you seem to think going for the jugular means insulting me about Lowe? You tell us you are a people Expert (still laughing at that BTW) and then inform me that Liverpool fans hate their manager. I correct the error of your ways so you mention Lowe. You are obsessed with the man. i think you summed some of these posters up,very small minds . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Liverpool fans are ready to get nasty with Benitez any moment.As they fall away in the League. Do you know this from your Expert People skills or have the cheeky Scousers sent you an email telling you. (All 40,000 of them, obviously) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 The Luvvies on this thread demonstrate what **** fans we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonsaint1604 Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I think you need to just accept that Pearson is no longer our manager and move on. He did a good job last season and it's a shame we didn't keep him but that's just how it is. I luv Rupert Lowe but even I would admit that he made a mistake by getting rid of pearson. It's no use going on about it now though, remember: 'our future is greater than our past' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Don't worry Stanley,we know about these sad Luvvies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 So Liverpool fans don't think that Benitez should have done a lot better considering the amount of money he has wasted.They don't think that all his tinkering made things worse. You are wrong. Mate, I am not wrong. I base my opinion on mixing daily with scousers and in fairness, with Blues fans alike. I base it on hearing them praise him and think how good it is to still be in with a shout this late in the season for the first time in donkeys. What do you base it on? A couple of glory hunter locals that don't go to matches and felt they had walked the league before Christmas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 So Liverpool fans don't think that Benitez should have done a lot better considering the amount of money he has wasted.They don't think that all his tinkering made things worse. You are wrong. Thing is the tinkering that he has made has raised a fair few eye brows and fans have feared the worst but its surprising how many smiles there are after 3 points are tucked in the bag with pundits and fans alike saying they didnt get why he changed things but he obviously knows what he is doing because it was a success. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 The Luvvies on this thread demonstrate what **** fans we have. Absolutely and this from someone boycotting SMS, brilliant fan that is Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 We will see JFP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 The Luvvies on this thread demonstrate what **** fans we have. Right, so a Lowe Luvvie is someone that doesn't believe benitez is hated by the scousers? Get a grip Stanley. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Don't worry Stanley,we know about these sad Luvvies. Justify that comment? Read it back to yourself in the context in which you posted it and then decide again who is sad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Don't worry Stanley,we know about these sad Luvvies. Is this whole thread just made to try and have a go at anyone who doesnt agree with you? It seems that you dont really want a debate, you want an argument. Your doing your little mob the world of justice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Right, so a Lowe Luvvie is someone that doesn't believe benitez is hated by the scousers? Get a grip Stanley. Nah, a Luvvie is a deluded fool like you that supports Lowe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Right, so a Lowe Luvvie is someone that doesn't believe benitez is hated by the scousers? Get a grip Stanley. your wasteing your time,they are the real lowe luvvies because they are always on about him :Dmaybe they fancy him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
solentstars Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Is this whole thread just made to try and have a go at anyone who doesnt agree with you? It seems that you dont really want a debate, you want an argument. Your doing your little mob the world of justice. thats how childish they are,never mind they will start another mindless thread soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Nah, a Luvvie is a deluded fool like you that supports Lowe. I keep telling you, I am not a Lowe supporter ( I prefer that term to Luviie, as I cringe for you when you use it.) I am a realist and just do not see that any amount of publically stating you are not happy with him will change facts. Get it, a realist. If I don't like you will you consider moving house or changing jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Nick, its reasurring to hear you say the squad is united and confident under Wotte. I hope he gets the same kind of spirit and commitment from the players that I believe Pearson did. Myself, and I would guess many others, will give Wotte all the backing they can to get us out of trouble because at the end of the day we don't have much choice. The two reasons I have my doubts about Wotte is: Firstly, recent history of appointing within has always failed, Dodd, Wigley, Gray. Secondly, he seems to have had little impact on the team when he was with JP. Some posters have suggested that Wotte is hated/not liked by the players yet your information would suggest differently ? can you elaborate on how you know ? I of course can not tell you any more than I have. I pass on as much as I can without causing my friends any difficulties.I do understand if you dont believe but i can only give out so much. At first (when Jan was still manager) Wotte was seen as arrogant and woud eat himself if made of chocolate.When he took over they had a meeting , the whole playing squad and staff.Wotte addressed them and then others had their say.It seemed to bring a lot of things into the open but also I believe that the players became more warm to him. Since then the squad have been more united (not that they were very divided before)and I have been told they were really cheesed off as they really were up for the Watford game.Perhaps it is because they can see a strcture and plan that was not laid out for them before, but a belief is there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 your wasteing your time,they are the real lowe luvvies because they are always on about him :Dmaybe they fancy him. I have a different anti Lowe post for every day of the year and then some. Get used to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Don't worry Stanley,we know about these sad Luvvies. Just out of interest, are Luvvies people that don't agree completely with yourselves? For instance, would I be called a Lowe Luvvie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 your wasteing your time,they are the real lowe luvvies because they are always on about him :Dmaybe they fancy him. The naked pics of Lowe and Wilde in bed did make me wonder just what their motives were. Oh, and the constant avatar changing pics of him. Now that is the workings of delusion if ever I saw it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Just out of interest, are Luvvies people that don't agree completely with yourselves. For instance, would I be called a Lowe Luvvie? He should know the answer to that, but only if you are a person, you see, he is a people expert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Nah, a Luvvie is a deluded fool like you that supports Lowe.Stanley, i dont think anyone has scarves or rosettes in support of RL but some see that he is not ALL bad.That doesnt mean we have little shrines to him with burning candles on them in reverence. I suspect you and many others were in love with the Wilde bunch and some even bought T-shirts that is something you never can aim at the RL crowd.MW 's bunch were a failure the ones who understand a lttle of RL's position again dont wish to jump out of the frying pan again.Get a board who are likely to come up with the goodas nad I suspect you will get 100% support and Rl will be one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintwarwick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 So Liverpool fans don't think that Benitez should have done a lot better considering the amount of money he has wasted.They don't think that all his tinkering made things worse. You are wrong. Benitez seems to have got the team into 2nd place and actually challenging for the title, you think this is bad? I know a few scouse fans and they are quite happy that they are now actually challenging the likes of United for the title and not trying to fend of Everton for the champions league 4th spot. Guess the only wrong un on here is yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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