alpine_saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I called him the hottest young managerial prospect in England, and I stand by that, but calling him a legend is daft. But then again, I dont recall anyone having done so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldNick Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Looking at the tail end of the season tells a story of improvement and a base on which to have built on this season had Lowe and the Quisling not decided that as Crouch's man he had no future here. And anyway, Lowe was itching to have a bash at playing games with his fantasy Dutch total football mad experiment. But as you infer, there are those who can't accept that Pearson's job under the circumstances he inheritted was creditable and of course he has done a good Job at Leicester and will enjoy managing in this division next season while we swap places. Amongst those who decry his record, we even have some who hold up the example of our loss against Hull and blame defenders loaned by Pearson for the result, even though they had not even arrived at the club at that time. I would prefer that RL had kept NP as manager and believe he made a mistake not getting rid of Jan. Saying that I read about the business end and all that and what nonsense that is. Last 6 games Cardiff away ,playing not to get injured(if our lot had got stuck in they would have hid) lost 1-0 Bristol City home a good 2-0 victory. Charlton away 1-1 Burnley home, a team mid table playing for their holidays lost 1-0 WBA away a great result somewhat fortunate but still a great result 1-1 Sheff utd home, a rollercoaster luckily SU realised at h/t they couldnt make playoffs won in a day of overwhelming high emotion. won 3-2 Business end of the season won 2 drew 2 lost 2 .I think that telss its story he did ok but nothing exceptional. He had the service of SJ and some highly paid loans came in.Some did exceptionally well others poor, but that can be said for all managers. NP IMO is an ok manager, lets see next season how good he is. As for RL letting him go , it was a major mistake and will be one of the main reasons he lost his opportunity EVER to win over the fanbase again.NP unified the fans and although I dont rate him highly but I was more than happy to have him here this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Doesn't suit your Lowe Luvvie agenda does it TDD ? To be fair, anyone who thinks TDD is a "Lowe Luvvie" is clearly an idiot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 At what point does thinking Nigel Pearson (Football Genius) is not god's gift to football management come to be equated to luvving Rupert Lowe? Utter toss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Torres Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I called him the hottest young managerial prospect in England, and I stand by that, but calling him a legend is daft. But then again, I dont recall anyone having done so. I think Ferguson and Martinez might shade it, tbf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I called him the hottest young managerial prospect in England, and I stand by that, but calling him a legend is daft. But then again, I dont recall anyone having done so. can assure you he was, on this forum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alain Perrin Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 And here lies the fundamental problem with Saint's fans. Arguing about an impossible to prove point, again and again (and again, oh and again). There is no Pearson - the truth, only Pearson - opinion & conjecture. Fact is that Lowe (the one who had to make a decision without hindsight) didn't think Pearson was the person to deliver on our meagre budget with a bunch of reserves/youth. Pearson may have been a good manager for us, he may have done better than JP/Wotte - but no one knows. All the parameters (players, opposition, morale, luck) are different. Arguing about it isn't going to change anyones mind, or change the results we have on the board. If we focused on the future, not the past then perhaps we'd stand a better chance of getting out of the mess we are undoubtedly in. ... right I'm off to post something about the Reverse Takeover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Fine, if you have seen posters call him a legend then a will accept your word for it. I have read a lot of the Pearson debates and have not seen that comment, so my apologise. I would guess that most pro Pearson supporters would agree that we would have still had a fight on our hands this season, but at least there would have still been some fight. (and hope.) thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 i completely agree with everything you say. I think pearson will go very far and we were very wrong to let him go... but we did, he is now Leicester manager and theres nothing we can do about it. Theres no point dwelling and i really dont understand why people keep bringing him up? Point of order ......... "WE" didn't let him go ..... LOWE did, because A) he didn't hire him in the first place, and B) Pearson, not being a "Yes Man", would have stood up to Lowe Mandaric is a tough cookie, but he appointed someone he thought would do a good job for him ....... AND LET HIM DO IT HIS WAY End of story Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Franny's Tash Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Debating whether NP is the next Martin O'Neill or not really is a bit of a red herring. What is clear is that he is quite clearly better than what the muppets in charge of the club chose to replace him with, hence our current predicament. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank's cousin Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 So you moronic LOWE/BURLEY LUVVIES lets see you argue that getting rid of PEARSON was anything other than LOWE clearly demonstrating that he is more interested in revenge, and massaging his ego than the welfare of the club. Its clear that Lowe using the break clause in the contract was NOT simply because of Pearsons record... fair enough, most so called 'moronic luvvies' (delicately and intelligently put) would not even suggest that much... Pearson did enough to deserve to be given a chance form mine and many others perspective. Secondly you claim ' that getting rid of PEARSON was anything other than LOWE clearly demonstrating that he is more interested in revenge, and massaging his ego than the welfare of the club' Well if anything on this site is moronic that statement is clearly up there - on what do you base this and if you seriously believe that Lowe would deliberately harm the club then you are seriously paranoid. Lowe undoudtedly has his own vision and sure thats driven in poart by ego - he saw the timing as right instigate this vision based on teh premise of youth development on teh dutch system - a mini Ajax. As a premise its fine. Where he fecked up was in in a) the coaches appointed dont seem up to it, b) losing teh blend of experience AND youth, and c) failing to understand how quickly such a youthful side would become victims of underachievement when in a division that is still largly about graft and guile rather than pretty football. The two are not really linked - apart from had Pearson's record been exceptional, eg won 10 of 13 say, I think even LOwe woudl ahve thought twice about it, but as the record was good, but not great he felt the time was right. It has not worked, and thus it was obviously a mistake, but to assume it was deliberate is symptomatic of the 'moronic' nature of some of the antis claims and statements they present as fact... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Point of order ......... "WE" didn't let him go ..... LOWE did, because A) he didn't hire him in the first place, and B) Pearson, not being a "Yes Man", would have stood up to Lowe Mandaric is a tough cookie, but he appointed someone he thought would do a good job for him ....... AND LET HIM DO IT HIS WAY End of story Why do you feel qualified to make everyone of your opinions read as a cast iron fact when it is clear you just have a childish crusade driven agenda? You come across as a bit of a numpty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Why do you feel qualified to make everyone of your opinions read as a cast iron fact when it is clear you just have a childish crusade driven agenda? You come across as a bit of a numpty. Talk about the pot calling the kettle.:-$ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
docker-p Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Only a fool would have sacked Pearson (or not re-newed his contract) in favour of bringing in a foreign manager from a semi-pro club who had no experience of English football at any level, and no sucess in any of his managerial posts. Lowe. And only fools would have backed him in doing so. Askham, Wilde, Withers, Richards etc. How the fvck did he find JP???? Stick a fvcking pin in the Dutch electoral register!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Why do you feel qualified to make everyone of your opinions read as a cast iron fact when it is clear you just have a childish crusade driven agenda? You come across as a bit of a numpty. And your counter arguments to my points are ....... ???????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Wayman Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 They can't handle the truth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 And your counter arguments to my points are ....... ???????? I thought that was quite obvious. Let's try again with you, you are getting an education today, aren't you? My counter argument is that you are merely giving opinion and stating it as fact. For instance, if you said that blue was the best colour in the world, it wouldn't be a fact because you believed it. Also, it makes you quite blinkered to think that anyone that has a different opinion to you is always wrong or always a "Lowe luvvie" as your ilk like to say. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I thought that was quite obvious. Let's try again with you, you are getting an education today, aren't you? My counter argument is that you are merely giving opinion and stating it as fact. For instance, if you said that blue was the best colour in the world, it wouldn't be a fact because you believed it. Also, it makes you quite blinkered to think that anyone that has a different opinion to you is always wrong or always a "Lowe luvvie" as your ilk like to say. Read this SLOWLY ............. all you are doing is slagging me off ....... You are NOT answering my points Your "counter argument" that it is just my opinion is NOT a Counter Argument I suggest you find out what Big words like "counter" and "argument" before Mummy brings in your Rusks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dan Johnson Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 yes..look at them... scolari - 4th in the prem, still in the FA cup, CL and top 4 prem...disaster (I remeber when Man U had a similar season about 4 years ago...) Benitez - 2nd in the league, still in CL and have the 3rd best player on the planet Spurs - have won the League cup last season, in this years final..will probably stay up.. the top two are by no mean failures..jesus as for pearson..yes he is doing well to be where he is...BUT if i was a leicester fan (and I do know a few) they expected to go up automatically as they have the best squad, the best stadium the best resources the best training ground the best facilities.... I will admit pearson is doing well with them and I wish him luck...lets see If he ever gets to the prem or indeed promotion out of this league with a team yet before we call him "great" Mandric has also kept the wage structure at a "Championship Level" and as a result Mandric has personally had to pump over 14m in the club to keep it afloat, he wouldnt have had that kind of commitment from our board so I have to agree with you. He could be classed as "great" if he was operating at league 1 level, but he's not... he's got a championship squad in league 1. No one can compare the kind of job he would of done here on the basis of the job he is now doing at leicester Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Point of order ......... "WE" didn't let him go ..... LOWE did, because A) he didn't hire him in the first place, and B) Pearson, not being a "Yes Man", would have stood up to Lowe Mandaric is a tough cookie, but he appointed someone he thought would do a good job for him ....... AND LET HIM DO IT HIS WAY End of story Mandaric keeps having the last laugh over our bafoon of a chairman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFartPants Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Read this SLOWLY ............. all you are doing is slagging me off ....... You are NOT answering my points Your "counter argument" that it is just my opinion is NOT a Counter Argument I suggest you find out what Big words like "counter" and "argument" before Mummy brings in your Rusks I think if you look back you will find it was you that started with the personal comments when I did in fact have a different opinion to you. Now you have received some back, (all be they tame by comparison) you wish to create Admin and Mod attention seeking "poor me" posts. I stand by my point, which has still not been answered. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Mandaric keeps having the last laugh over our bafoon of a chairman. Oh i'm sure he was p:ssing himself on the last day of the season last year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I really don't understand why people like Pearson so much. Personally, I just don't rate him, there are far better managers out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Oh i'm sure he was p:ssing himself on the last day of the season last year If you read the post again slowly you will notice I stated "the last laugh". You know when we get relegated and they pass us on the way back up with Nigel Pearson as their manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I really don't understand why people like Pearson so much. Personally, I just don't rate him, there are far better managers out there. Lots of people choose to rate him more highly than they otherwise would because it serves as a reason to knock the club they claim to support. Not everyone i hasten to add. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I really don't understand why people like Pearson so much. Personally, I just don't rate him, there are far better managers out there. I dare say there are, but i think you'd struggle to find one who'd work under Lowe given how tarnished his reputation is in football. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I dare say there are, but i think you'd struggle to find one who'd work under Lowe given how tarnished his reputation is in football. Agreed, but I doubt Pearson would have. So why does that make Pearson good. As far as I can see Pearson is a very average manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Agreed, but I doubt Pearson would have. So why does that make Pearson good. As far as I can see Pearson is a very average manager. If you class Pearson as average how do you class Wotte and Portvliet in comparison? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRichmond Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I think if you look back you will find it was you that started with the personal comments when I did in fact have a different opinion to you. Now you have received some back, (all be they tame by comparison) you wish to create Admin and Mod attention seeking "poor me" posts. I stand by my point, which has still not been answered. What the hell are you on about ???????? "you wish to create Admin and Mod attention seeking "poor me" posts" ... what are you talking about ??? FFS If you don't like "personnal" comments, don't throw them at me then You "stand by your point" .. ???? Good, because I have not got a clue as to what that is or was And you STILL havn't come back with one constructive criticism/ counter argument re what I said of Lowe's "climb down" OK, my turn .... I will make it simple for you ........ I don't mind being criticised, or people not agreeing with me, but, most times people come back with alternative points of view ....... that is called Democracy/ Freedom of speech All you have done is slag me off, which does NOT add to any debate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 If you class Pearson as average how do you class Wotte and Portvliet in comparison? Portvliet was Poor, but that's by the by. I'm willing to give Wotte a chance, cos we have no other choice, and at least he has us playing 4-4-2. The debate is how good a manager Pearson is, not Pearson compared to who we've got in charge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scudamore Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 If you read the post again slowly you will notice I stated "the last laugh". You know when we get relegated and they pass us on the way back up with Nigel Pearson as their manager. I never have to read your posts slowly Stan. The transparency in every single one shines through loud and clear. Also is that the last laugh then Stanley? What if they get relegated the following season and we go up? Is that then the last laugh? Where does this laughing last end? Or have you predicted an apocalyptic end to the world as we know it following the parading of the League 1 trophy by Nigel Pearson (Football Genius) through the streets of Leicester? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
once_bitterne Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 This is a rebuttal to the moronic Lowe Luvvies who have decried Pearsons' performance at the end of last season,and would like to suggest that he was responsible for nearly taking us down rather than saving our necks. BURLEY--------- 38 pts from 28 games ( 1.36 points per game ) PEARSON------- 16 pts from 13 games ( 1.23 points per game ) So statistically Pearson was a worse manager than Burley? I didn't realise he was quite that bad..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Handyman Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 This is a rebuttal to the moronic Lowe Luvvies who have decried Pearsons' performance at the end of last season,and would like to suggest that he was responsible for nearly taking us down rather than saving our necks. BURLEY--------- 38 pts from 28 games ( 1.36 points per game ) ,his team,his squad,his players on ridiculous wages that has taken us to the point of administration. DODD & GORMAN-------- 1 pt from 5 games,nuff said. PEARSON------- 16 pts from 13 games ( 1.23 points per game ) 4 draws and a win from first 5 games,that after taking over a de-motivated,demoralised team that had lost 5 of its last 6 games. Beaten by Hull and Cardiff,drew with Coventry,but no great surprise there. With all three of Wright,Pery and Lucketti in place for last 5 games we get another 8 points ( 1.60 points per game ) PLAY-OFF FORM !!!!!!!! So with a squad overwhelmingly not of his choosing he only slightly underperforms Burley. How do the LOWE/BURLEY LUVVIES explain that? After an initial appraisal of our playing strenghts Pearson brought in the defensive players we needed to take us to a level of performance that Burley couldn't. The most impressive thing about Pearson though is that he is everything that JP isn't. He is a class act who commands respect.He has the demeanor of a man who knows exactly what he wants and how he needs to go about achieving it.And he does not bull****. He is the type of manager that players want to play for,and the vast majority of Saints fans could see that from day one. So you moronic LOWE/BURLEY LUVVIES lets see you argue that getting rid of PEARSON was anything other than LOWE clearly demonstrating that he is more interested in revenge, and massaging his ego than the welfare of the club. Couldn't agree more, and where are Leicester City? Only sitting at the top of their league. Just waiting for them to pass us going up as we go down. Shame, but poetic justice! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 The debate is how good a manager Pearson is, not Pearson compared to who we've got in charge. Who've we've got now compared to us keeping Nigel Pearson is pivotal to the debate. We wouldn't be discussing thif if JP and Wotte weren't so rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Who've we've got now compared to us keeping Nigel Pearson is pivotal to the debate. We wouldn't be discussing thif if JP and Wotte weren't so rubbish. Exactly, so peoples opinions of him are warped because the people we have in charge now are so poor. So instead of having a poor manager (Pearson), we have a very poor manager. I think you'd find it hard to find people who think that Portvliet et al are better than Pearson, but also I think you'll find it hard to find people who think that Pearson is an above average manager. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I like the stupidity of your selecting a piece of my OP,OB. To say that Burleys perfromance was better than a manager who took over a group of players,the overwhelming number of whom he would have known nothing about,and that manager only gets 0.13 points per game less,is as about as stupid as it can get.Also when taking on board that Pearson managed to identify in a few weeks and solve our need for decent CBs,something Burley failed to do in over 2 years. I am not saying that Pearson is a great manager,or that he will become one.He did a good job for us in the circumstances,and is doing so at Leicester in advantageous circumstances.Yes he has money at Leicester that other L1 clubs can only dream of,but many managers have failed to take advantage in such circumstances Benitez has failed when considering the money he has spent. Scolari has failed when considering the money that has been spent to give him the players at his disposal. Many managers have failed at Spurs and Newcastle considering the money they have spent. Spending money does not guarantee success.Pearson is doing it successfully at the moment at a low level,nobody knows where it will go from here. The main point of my OP was to demonstrate how some on here like to lie or mis-represent in order to try to back-up their support of the Lord God Lowe.Amen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Scolari has failed when considering the money that has been spent to give him the players at his disposal. Many managers have failed at Spurs and Newcastle considering the money they have spent. Scolari hardly spent any money anyway. Ane Pearson is one of those who failed at Newcastle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Doesn't suit your Lowe Luvvie agenda does it TDD ? LOL I never thought of TDD's as a luvvie TBH. But to answer the original point, your comparing Pearson to what GB did in his final season right? the season many thought GB should get the boot because he was rubbish? And this makes Pearson great? As others have already said Pearson would have been more than welcome to stay if it was the fans choice and I dont think there are many that think he wouldnt have done better than JP. That doesnt mean we all think he would have stormed to the top of the league with us though and many of us are just asking for a little bit of realism when trying to compare what he did for us to what he might have done for us this year had he been given the chance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 DP,until given the time or position to demonstrate how good he is,any assessment of Pearson is premature. At the moment he is just promising,and should be here. Which brings me to an important point,namely that Lowe is such a vengeful and egotistical **** that he is prepared to risk the survival of this club to carry out his vengeful egotistical deeds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 LOL I never thought of TDD's as a luvvie TBH. But to answer the original point, your comparing Pearson to what GB did in his final season right? the season many thought GB should get the boot because he was rubbish? And this makes Pearson great? As others have already said Pearson would have been more than welcome to stay if it was the fans choice and I dont think there are many that think he wouldnt have done better than JP. That doesnt mean we all think he would have stormed to the top of the league with us though and many of us are just asking for a little bit of realism when trying to compare what he did for us to what he might have done for us this year had he been given the chance. Could not agree more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 You are pathetic DP. Pearson was caretaker in charge for at least 3 games at Newcastle wasn't he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 DP,until given the time or position to demonstrate how good he is,any assessment of Pearson is premature. At the moment he is just promising,and should be here. Which brings me to an important point,namely that Lowe is such a vengeful and egotistical **** that he is prepared to risk the survival of this club to carry out his vengeful egotistical deeds. Yep, I see that. I just don't see any guarantee that this season would be much different with Pearson. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 You are pathetic DP. Pearson was caretaker in charge for at least 3 games at Newcastle wasn't he? That was a facetious comment, meant to show how fickle people are. How many games has Wotte been in charge? I don't know why when we're having a debate you've decided to resort to name calling though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 An important point about Pearson DP is that the fans were solidly behind him,and never last season attributed the last day scenario to him in any measure .When considering the feelings of a lot of fans towards Burley,this was a major reason why he should have been kept on,despite everything else. He has a very impressive persona for a football manager,and i am not easily impressed. I am an excellent reader of people.That is how i knew Burley was a jackass so early on. That is also how i know that Pearson has the kind of character that players respond to. The only reason Pearson may fail as a manager is if he suffers the kind of stupidity that Lowe is inflicting on us,or that his tactical nous is deficient. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1965onwards Posted 11 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Sorry DP,did not read that as facetious. I actually think that Wottes persona looks promising,but i wish he would stop commenting on fans. If he is hated by the players as is said,that could be a positive at the moment,a bit of kicking-ass would not go amiss. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 An important point about Pearson DP is that the fans were solidly behind him,and never last season attributed the last day scenario to him in any measure .When considering the feelings of a lot of fans towards Burley,this was a major reason why he should have been kept on,despite everything else. He has a very impressive persona for a football manager,and i am not easily impressed. I am an excellent reader of people.That is how i knew Burley was a jackass so early on. That is also how i know that Pearson has the kind of character that players respond to. The only reason Pearson may fail as a manager is if he suffers the kind of stupidity that Lowe is inflicting on us,or that his tactical nous is deficient. Maybe the powers that be should turn to you when they next have to decide on who shyould be at our club/ Or maybe turn to 1 of the other 200 or so people that think they know better on TSW? your opinion is your opinion. Nothing more and nothing less. I dont think that gives you the right to jump in with name calling from the start and billy big balls approach as if you are the one we should all bow down and listen too. Some of your later points show that your not against reason and objectivity, so why try the big I am approach. Have you seen anyone else act that way that wins any support? It doesnt work for Lowe so why should it work for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 An important point about Pearson DP is that the fans were solidly behind him,and never last season attributed the last day scenario to him in any measure .When considering the feelings of a lot of fans towards Burley,this was a major reason why he should have been kept on,despite everything else. He has a very impressive persona for a football manager,and i am not easily impressed. I am an excellent reader of people.That is how i knew Burley was a jackass so early on. That is also how i know that Pearson has the kind of character that players respond to. The only reason Pearson may fail as a manager is if he suffers the kind of stupidity that Lowe is inflicting on us,or that his tactical nous is deficient. Just because the fans are behind a manager does not make him successful though. Or because he has an impressive persona, which is something I will not deny for him, cos he seemed like a proper good guy. However, I still can't throw off the feeling that people are severely over-estimating his talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krissyboy31 Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 An important point about Pearson DP is that the fans were solidly behind him,and never last season attributed the last day scenario to him in any measure .When considering the feelings of a lot of fans towards Burley,this was a major reason why he should have been kept on,despite everything else. He has a very impressive persona for a football manager,and i am not easily impressed. I am an excellent reader of people.That is how i knew Burley was a jackass so early on. That is also how i know that Pearson has the kind of character that players respond to. The only reason Pearson may fail as a manager is if he suffers the kind of stupidity that Lowe is inflicting on us,or that his tactical nous is deficient. I think this is the point! The club should have built on the feel-good factor of last seasons survival. Many of us saw that as the bottoming out point, even though everyone was aware of the financial restraints the club were still under and that certain cutbacks would have to be made. However Lowe and Wilde came back with a bloody big pin, to burst that bubble. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dibden Purlieu Saint Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 Sorry DP,did not read that as facetious. I actually think that Wottes persona looks promising,but i wish he would stop commenting on fans. If he is hated by the players as is said,that could be a positive at the moment,a bit of kicking-ass would not go amiss. I agree about Wotte's persona, he seems 'professional' as it were, so hopefully he can bang a few heads, and try to improve the discipline within the squad. Commenting about fans is not sensible though, although I've got to say I'd probably feel the same way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintjay77 Posted 11 February, 2009 Share Posted 11 February, 2009 I think this is the point! The club should have built on the feel-good factor of last seasons survival. Many of us saw that as the bottoming out point, even though everyone was aware of the financial restraints the club were still under and that certain cutbacks would have to be made. However Lowe and Wilde came back with a bloody big pin, to burst that bubble. I think the 2 ronnies came back thinking there plan would save more costs (which it appears to have done) and done enough to see us safe with a view of looking up the table rather than down. They were wrong which makes letting go of Pearson look like a really really bad mistake. Someone else said on another thread that had they kept him on they could have binned him at xmas should he be failing. They were in a win win situation and gambled and failed. Not much point in banging the pearson drum now though when Wotte is in a similar position to what Pearson was. I dont get why we argue about the past when Lowe is at our club yet we argue about the future when Crouch is here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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