Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Back in the prem days, the players used to go to a club in Bournemouth. They would hire the whole VIP suite and get ****ed up with their friends without the hassle. Beattie, Bridge and some younger members of the squad used to hire a coach for after Saturdays home match and go on the lash. There was always a better class of crumpet in Bournemouth, I remember it distinctly.
SimonRichards Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 There was always a better class of crumpet in Bournemouth, I remember it distinctly. It was for the players. I recall being told about a few occasions with some players and stunning lapdancers..
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 It was for the players. I recall being told about a few occasions with some players and stunning lapdancers.. Even the "non-professionals" were of a better class in Bournemouth. Didn't chew gum, didn't drink pints, had some basic cultural knowledge.
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 It was for the players. I recall being told about a few occasions with some players and stunning lapdancers.. Michael Wilde was a regular customer too!
Ponty Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Good post. I have become somewhat weary of Ponty's recent antagonistic approach too. Seeing as he is a mod, it strikes me as being abuse-of-position. But I suppose he would just point out he has a right of free speech too. Bloody hell Alps. I've lost count of the times I've defended your right to be the most negative bloke on the forum. Nice bit of backstabbing there. I might have a bit of a think about things here then.
Weston Super Saint Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Shouting abuse from the terraces is one thing. Abusing the players face to face is disgusting. No one should abuse anyone, verbally or otherwise, like these animals. I wish they'd given him something worth getting arrested over tbh. They might be SFC players but first and foremost they're people, and like anyone they are entitled not to get abuse hurled at them to the point they need to retaliate or are reduced to tears. Anyone who thinks it's ok to get in someone else's face and act like that should be f***ing ashamed of themselves. Good job nobody is aware of the facts and therefore make wild assumptions about either side of the story....oh..... I think the only person who has actually shown any restraint regarding making an opinion either way was the original poster
Thedelldays Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 to be fair...if I saw them out and gave them sheet, i would not get all "uppity" and moan about the scuffle
Runaway Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 This sounds like unsubstantiated ******** to me.
bridge too far Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Good job nobody is aware of the facts and therefore make wild assumptions about either side of the story....oh..... I think the only person who has actually shown any restraint regarding making an opinion either way was the original poster
NickG Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 disgusting if true, but remember this forum is running at about 0% accuaracy over last few months for ITK, players that signed, lack of info about players signing, administration etc.
St Will Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Every cloud has a silver lining......... IF true, McGoaldrought may get dropped for a game or two! Whoop!
hamster Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 does sound more faeces than fact, but it's sad that people either verbally attack others in the street or make up stories to that effect IMO. Why can't people just be nice to each other?
georgeg Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Every cloud has a silver lining......... IF true, McGoaldrought may get dropped for a game or two! Whoop! no chance mate - we would be lost without his "silky skills"!!!! note to Dave - when Drew scored in the 89th minute it was the equaliser - we hadnt actually won the game so kicking the ball into row z was'nt a bright idea was it - tw*t
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Every cloud has a silver lining......... IF true, McGoaldrought may get dropped for a game or two! Whoop! To be replaced by ??
St Will Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 To be replaced by ?? Well that's the big question, but I'd settle for anyone who'd just run around, someone who isn't up their own arse and someone who won't sulk the whole game. I don't like slagging off players, McG, however, has an attitude problem, and with that deserves to be dropped. Losers let it happen, winners make it happen. He doesn't make it happen. He just sulks. Not good enough. Like I said, if all this is true, it might turn out to be a benefit to the cause.
Give it to Ron Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 To be replaced by ?? Euell/BWP/Paterson/My old Nan who has been dead for 10 years. It just may act as the kick up the arse he needs as there is nothing like competition for places to make you play better - unfortunately McG doesn't have any competition for his place it seems so continues to be ineffective. As a reserve watcher I had this feeling years ago that McG would be deemed lazy as he has one of those lazy gaits and at times loks as though he doesn't care. At times this year that lazy gait has at times seemed to be an excuse.
Wiltshire Saint Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 The fact you were obviously never taught the sticks and stones lesson whilst you were a child is very apparent. Also condoning physical violence on an internet forum is just about the only thing on this thread anyone should be ashamed of. However you are right when you say no one should verbally abuse anyone but whilst not being right it does happens, but resorting to physical violence is not acceptable? If it happened then they deserve what is coming to them. Call yourself a moderator? You are one of the biggest antagonist wind ups on this forum. How you got that position is beyond me. Oh do shut up, you c*ck. Ponty is the only moderator on this site that says what he thinks and most of the time what he says is pretty spot on.
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Euell/BWP/Paterson/My old Nan who has been dead for 10 years. It just may act as the kick up the arse he needs as there is nothing like competition for places to make you play better - unfortunately McG doesn't have any competition for his place it seems so continues to be ineffective. As a reserve watcher I had this feeling years ago that McG would be deemed lazy as he has one of those lazy gaits and at times loks as though he doesn't care. At times this year that lazy gait has at times seemed to be an excuse. Well perhaps not BWP, especially if he was involved in the same hypothetical incident.Euell would be OK though
hypochondriac Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Someone posted the same about Michael Svenson a few weeks back. The thread then got deleted. That was me and it definitely happened.
hypochondriac Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Michael Wilde was a regular customer too! So I have heard...
saints_is_the_south Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Apparently McGoldrick was a big headed tw*t when he was at Bournemouth so those comments wouldn't surprise me atall. The fact that he's bigging himself up when he's actually sh!te is funneh.
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Apparently McGoldrick was a big headed tw*t when he was at Bournemouth so those comments wouldn't surprise me atall. The fact that he's bigging himself up when he's actually sh!te is funneh. Yes but it's not helped by the fact that he was named as one of "50 for the future" in some rag or other recently. In a good side he'd probably score a lot of goals actually, like Rasiak and John--oh wait they can't score for nuts either. We've had so many cases of strikers being mute and fans getting onto their case after a couple of goalless games that have gone on to score prolifically elsewhere that I'd have thought we'd learnt our lesson by now.
Deano6 Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Good post. I have become somewhat weary of Ponty's recent antagonistic approach too. Seeing as he is a mod, it strikes me as being abuse-of-position. But I suppose he would just point out he has a right of free speech too. Ponty is my Dad and I'll thank you not to insult him in front of me on here. Thankyou.
INFLUENCED.COM Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Stick goes with the territory imo, that said, whoever gives the stick must consider would they give stick to another man in similar circumstance, are they capable of defending themselves if attacked and should not whine if they get a wallop due to their mouth.
hypochondriac Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Yes but it's not helped by the fact that he was named as one of "50 for the future" in some rag or other recently. In a good side he'd probably score a lot of goals actually, like Rasiak and John--oh wait they can't score for nuts either. We've had so many cases of strikers being mute and fans getting onto their case after a couple of goalless games that have gone on to score prolifically elsewhere that I'd have thought we'd learnt our lesson by now. Ah yes, blame the fans because McGoldrick is not a very good footballer.
OldNick Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Apparently McGoldrick was a big headed tw*t when he was at Bournemouth so those comments wouldn't surprise me atall. The fact that he's bigging himself up when he's actually sh!te is funneh. Well all I can say is my friend was one of the owners of Bournemouth when he was there and the staff commented when i was there to watch a game, that he was the politest nicest lad there and they adored him.They would have taken him back in less than a heartbeat. As for the so called assault, well i think it is laughable and just a set up.I dont think we have bneen told where it happened,.If I was a skate it would be so easy to ruin players when you have sites like this.Immediately it is true because it is a fans favourite scapegoat who is said to be involved.
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Ah yes, blame the fans because McGoldrick is not a very good footballer. Not blaming anyone Hypo, just that it seems to be a recurring event at SMS. I remember how everyone turned on Beattie when he stopped scoring and Davies and Fuller,Blackstock got some stick. It's just human nature I suppose.
Thedelldays Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Not blaming anyone Hypo, just that it seems to be a recurring event at SMS. I remember how everyone turned on Beattie when he stopped scoring and Davies and Fuller,Blackstock got some stick. It's just human nature I suppose. and peter crouch of course...it is part of the game...lol
hypochondriac Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Not blaming anyone Hypo, just that it seems to be a recurring event at SMS. I remember how everyone turned on Beattie when he stopped scoring and Davies and Fuller,Blackstock got some stick. It's just human nature I suppose. Odd that you think that way. That isn't how I remembered it at all. Of course with some I agree with you. Fuller and Crouch were certainly given too much stick.
EastleighSoulBoy Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 If this is true then thay are a disgrace and should read about previous players. Those who were not only deserving of our support but were men! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=9631
Window Cleaner Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Odd that you think that way. That isn't how I remembered it at all. Of course with some I agree with you. Fuller and Crouch were certainly given too much stick. That was of course a poetic "everyone". Obviously there are always a few voices of reason who've seen it all before and understand the situation to some extent. Seem to be a dying breed though. I blame TV of course,and video games and Donner Kebabs and the price of Melons.
OldNick Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 If this is true then thay are a disgrace and should read about previous players. Those who were not only deserving of our support but were men! http://www.saintsweb.co.uk/forum/showthread.php?t=9631 IF I find it far fetched.It has come from one anonymous person.We certainly have a death wish trying to stir up anti player feeling.David moyes showed how to deal with these things.treat them with the contempt they deserve
hypochondriac Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 That was of course a poetic "everyone". Obviously there are always a few voices of reason who've seen it all before and understand the situation to some extent. Seem to be a dying breed though. I blame TV of course,and video games and Donner Kebabs and the price of Melons. I disagree. Players get a lot of stick on here but outside of that, the vast majority of players get a lot of support. We have been brilliantly supportive of players this season IMO.
Kadeem Hardison Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 The fact you were obviously never taught the sticks and stones lesson whilst you were a child is very apparent. Also condoning physical violence on an internet forum is just about the only thing on this thread anyone should be ashamed of. However you are right when you say no one should verbally abuse anyone but whilst not being right it does happens, but resorting to physical violence is not acceptable? If it happened then they deserve what is coming to them. Call yourself a moderator? You are one of the biggest antagonist wind ups on this forum. How you got that position is beyond me. Good post. I have become somewhat weary of Ponty's recent antagonistic approach too. Seeing as he is a mod, it strikes me as being abuse-of-position. But I suppose he would just point out he has a right of free speech too. To begin with, Ponty's case should never come to trial. The Board has not produced one iota of evidence that the crime Ponty is charged with ever took place... It has relied instead upon the testimony of two witnesses, whose evidence has not only been called into serious question on cross-examination, but has been flatly contradicted by the defendant. Now, there is circumstantial evidence to indicate that alpine saint was beaten as a child - savagely. And Ponty now sits before you having taken the oath with the only good hand he possesses... his RIGHT. I have nothing but pity in my heart for the alpine. He is the victim of emotional poverty and ignorance. But my pity does not extend so far as to him putting a man's moderator status at stake, which he has done in an effort to get rid of his own guilt. Now I say "guilt," gentlemen, because it was guilt that motivated alpine. He's committed no crime - he has merely broken a rigid and time-honored code of our society, a code so severe that whoever breaks it is hounded from our midst as unfit to live with. He must destroy the evidence of his offense. But what was the evidence of his offense? Ponty, a human being. He must put Ponty away from him. Ponty was to him a daily reminder of what he did. Now, what did he do? He tempted a moderator. He was a full troll, and he tempted a moderator. He did something that, in our society, is unspeakable. He teased a moderator. Not an old admin, but a strong, young moderator. No code mattered to him before he broke it, but it came crashing down on him afterwards. The witnesses for the Board, with the exception of the wiltshire saint and Deano6 have presented themselves to you gentlemen, to this court in the cynical confidence that their testimony would not be doubted, confident that you gentlemen would go along with them on the assumption... the evil assumption that all moderators lie, all moderators are basically immoral beings, all moderators are not to be trusted around our forum. An assumption that one associates with minds of their caliber, and which is, in itself, gentlemen, a lie, which I do not need to point out to you. And so, a quiet, humble, respectable moderator, who has had the unmitigated TEMERITY to feel sorry for the forum members, has had to put his word against TWO troll's! The defendant is not guilty - but somebody in this forum is. Now, gentlemen, in this country, our messageboards are the great levelers. In our messageboards, all men are created equal. I'm no idealist to believe firmly in the integrity of our messageboards and of our forums - that's no ideal to me. That is a living, working reality! Now I am confident that you gentlemen will review, without passion, the evidence that you have heard, come to a decision and restore this man to his family. In the name of GOD, do your duty. In the name of God, believe... Ponty.
the wedge Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Shouting abuse from the terraces is one thing. Abusing the players face to face is disgusting. No one should abuse anyone, verbally or otherwise, like these animals. I wish they'd given him something worth getting arrested over tbh. They might be SFC players but first and foremost they're people, and like anyone they are entitled not to get abuse hurled at them to the point they need to retaliate or are reduced to tears. Anyone who thinks it's ok to get in someone else's face and act like that should be f***ing ashamed of themselves. Too bloody right. Anyone who thinks it's such a good idea to reduce our players to tears or violence must really be proud of themselves today, there is never ever an excuse for that kind of behaviour. I have no doubt in my mind that the majority of our players give their ****ing all for this club under the most difficult circumstances imaginable at their young age. The people who 'allegedly' reduced themselves to this are not true fans and I think it is absolutely despicable that this behaviour is resorted to. These players need encouragement and SUPPORT, to get the club back up the table, which is more than possible. Divert your criticism to the board and management up top, NOT the players.
sadoldgit Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 What amazes me is that how something that is printed on an inernet chat forum instatly becomes fact. Perhaps we should debate these things as and when it is proven that the attack happened or that Lallana did actually burst into tears?
Viking Warrior Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 I see Lloyd james was in XXXX yesterday buying some top of the range clothing. I think its an absolute disgrace, he shouldnt spend his money in this shigh class shop. he should have spent his money in charity clothing shops and help support poverty and various medical research charities. Its a bloody disgrace:cool:
Mole Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 It was posted on the casuals forum. There is nothing else interesting there, if you are that bothered, google terrace links... I think we should take what is posted on Chav sites with a pinch of salt. For that reason i shall reserve judgement.
hypochondriac Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 What amazes me is that how something that is printed on an inernet chat forum instatly becomes fact. Perhaps we should debate these things as and when it is proven that the attack happened or that Lallana did actually burst into tears? What on Earth are you talking about? Don't be silly no one believes that.
Kaiser Soze Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 The whole team were in town on Saturday drinking in Buddah Bar. They had their own VIP section however most were mingling with the regular punters outside of that. They were lauding up, necking champayne, clearly trying to show off their status and wealth to anyone that actually cared. A few lads had some very strong words, Lallana in particular was singled out as he was propping up the bar, someone in his fortunate position should take it on the chin however he didn't and started to sob. McGoldrick tried to come to his rescue but he also was soon put in his place. Things did eventually calm down and McG got a round of drinks in. The players need to realise that alot people care passionately about this football club and they have a responsibility to a) give everything they've got when on the pitch, and b) behave when off it. Neither have been happening of late and I applaud the lads in question for having a go and not holding back. I don't know anything about the alleged later incident involving BWP and McG however can vouch for the fact they were both in the area on Fri night.
Kaiser Soze Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Edit: should read 'the whole team were in town on FRIDAY'
aintforever Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 The thing is if I were a pro footballer and some chavs came up to me giving me grief I would tell them to **** off. I expect BWP and McG just gave as good as they got - rightly so IMO.
alpine_saint Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Bloody hell Alps. I've lost count of the times I've defended your right to be the most negative bloke on the forum. Nice bit of backstabbing there. I might have a bit of a think about things here then. Wait a minute before you get all huffy. I qualified my statement. I wrote "recently". I also noted your right to free speech. I am being straight with you here - you've posted quite a few sarcastic one-liners the past couple of weeks, and not directed necessarily at me. I dont know what you're problem is at the moment. I hope it is a transient period.
alpine_saint Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Ponty is my Dad and I'll thank you not to insult him in front of me on here. Thankyou. Insult ? Whatever.
Evil Monkey Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Wait a minute before you get all huffy. I qualified my statement. I wrote "recently". I also noted your right to free speech. I am being straight with you here - you've posted quite a few sarcastic one-liners the past couple of weeks, and not directed necessarily at me. I dont know what you're problem is at the moment. I hope it is a transient period. I think its once a month actually.
LGTL Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 Was Lallana steaming when he started crying? If so, i'd take it with a pinch of salt. People are different drunks and he is obviously an emotional one..
Psycrow Posted 8 February, 2009 Posted 8 February, 2009 I disagree. Players get a lot of stick on here but outside of that, the vast majority of players get a lot of support. We have been brilliantly supportive of players this season IMO. All you need to look at is the reaction to Lallana allegedly crying when abuse was hurled at him (which I think is bull****, but that's neither here nor there). He's a kid for **** sake, and what's the majority of the reaction? To get him out of the club because we want "real men pulling on the jersey" as i read one person say. Yeah... That's getting behind the players. FFS, this kid was the dog's ******** at the end of last season, overhyped at the start of this to the point that everyone was worried about him being sold in January and now one unsubstantiated claim of him shedding a few tears in public and this is the reaction? No Hypo, the vast majority of people on here show more vitriol than support towards our players
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