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Do you think we will stay up this year or be relegated to League 1  

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  1. 1. Do you think we will stay up this year or be relegated to League 1

    • Yes Im afraid to say we are down :(
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    • No we will survive :)
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Last season nearly all the people said that we were definitely down before the Bristol home game. And then nearly all the people said that we were definitely down after the defeat at home to Burnley. But Stern John 's brace kept us in this division in the final game of the season. No one knows what happen in the future. If somebody told you Stern John's two goals would kept your team up before the Bristol home game last season, would be believe it? If I tell you that Saganowski/Surman/Skacel 's hat trick will keep us up in the last game, will you believe it? Most of the Saints fans know the team can bloody do anything. Did you ever think we can win 6-0 away at Wolves, did you ever think we can beat Reading away? Keep on watching all the games until the end of the season, you may notice something that you won't believe before it happens.

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Last season nearly all the people said that we were definitely down before the Bristol home game. And then nearly all the people said that we were definitely down after the defeat at home to Burnley. But Stern John 's brace kept us in this division in the final game of the season. No one knows what happen in the future. If somebody told you Stern John's two goals would kept your team up before the Bristol home game last season, would be believe it? If I tell you that Saganowski/Surman/Skacel 's hat trick will keep us up in the last game, will you believe it? Most of the Saints fans know the team can bloody do anything. Did you ever think we can win 6-0 away at Wolves, did you ever think we can beat Reading away? Keep on watching all the games until the end of the season, you may notice something that you won't believe before it happens.

 

You reckon we are going to score 9....;)

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Last season nearly all the people said that we were definitely down before the Bristol home game. And then nearly all the people said that we were definitely down after the defeat at home to Burnley. But Stern John 's brace kept us in this division in the final game of the season. No one knows what happen in the future. If somebody told you Stern John's two goals would kept your team up before the Bristol home game last season, would be believe it? If I tell you that Saganowski/Surman/Skacel 's hat trick will keep us up in the last game, will you believe it? Most of the Saints fans know the team can bloody do anything. Did you ever think we can win 6-0 away at Wolves, did you ever think we can beat Reading away? Keep on watching all the games until the end of the season, you may notice something that you won't believe before it happens.

 

different team different club.. demonstrates just how rapid the decline has got even since last year...no chance of a repeat of that...

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Last season nearly all the people said that we were definitely down before the Bristol home game. And then nearly all the people said that we were definitely down after the defeat at home to Burnley. But Stern John 's brace kept us in this division in the final game of the season. No one knows what happen in the future. If somebody told you Stern John's two goals would kept your team up before the Bristol home game last season, would be believe it? If I tell you that Saganowski/Surman/Skacel 's hat trick will keep us up in the last game, will you believe it? Most of the Saints fans know the team can bloody do anything. Did you ever think we can win 6-0 away at Wolves, did you ever think we can beat Reading away? Keep on watching all the games until the end of the season, you may notice something that you won't believe before it happens.

 

Last season I never lost hope as I have this season. Even with certain disastrous results, I always felt there was enough in the team to pull through. Pearson gave me a feeling that the team would never give up. Wotte doesn't and I don't think I'm alone in that looking at the poll results. I couldn't believe the passion in the players on the last day of the season against Sheff Utd - they fought for everything and if only we'd done that more times over the season, we'd never have been in that position.

The young lads may have come through the ranks at Saints, but I don't believe they have the strength or the fight in them to take on the teams in this league. I also don't think the coach has it in him to give them that winning mentality.

NP may not be the greatest coach in the world, but he had the fans behind him and the players looked like they gave a sh1t. That must be worth a few points over the season. Far more than pretty football under people who don't understand this league and what it takes to win games.

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Last season I never lost hope as I have this season. Even with certain disastrous results, I always felt there was enough in the team to pull through. Pearson gave me a feeling that the team would never give up. Wotte doesn't and I don't think I'm alone in that looking at the poll results. I couldn't believe the passion in the players on the last day of the season against Sheff Utd - they fought for everything and if only we'd done that more times over the season, we'd never have been in that position.

The young lads may have come through the ranks at Saints, but I don't believe they have the strength or the fight in them to take on the teams in this league. I also don't think the coach has it in him to give them that winning mentality.

NP may not be the greatest coach in the world, but he had the fans behind him and the players looked like they gave a sh1t. That must be worth a few points over the season. Far more than pretty football under people who don't understand this league and what it takes to win games.

 

 

Nobody thought Pearson is any good before he kept us up. The away form for us is excellent given that you don't count the games were on Sky. That means the team has the ability to do well but just not in any home games at this moment. Once our team wake up at home and keep the away form going, we should be able to avoid relagation.

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Apart from Saganowski the rest do not know where the goal is. I said on other topics that with the squad we have we would be bottom by October 2008 and would not be able to get oit of the bottom three. I have been wrong due to some good away perfermances some of which I have witnessed and Charlton but it has been obvious for months.

 

There is always a mathematical chance and some other teams are not much better but the difference is they have changed and improved their managers whereas we have not. I cannot see us getting to the 50 points mark by some way - prediction around 40 and second to bottom by a fair margin. This is without Administration.

 

Picking up on another point I cannot see Lowe and Co trying to buy the business from the Administrator. We are already in the cack for next season as I cannot see the season ticket holders like myself all renewing in the same numbers as last year.

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Going down I'm afraid.

 

I think even if we got smoeone like Keane or Ince in now it would still be too late to make the changes in staff and attitude required to save us.

 

I hate to say it but I'm already planning my away trips for next season in L1 - though cheesed off that some of my nearest teams could well be swapping places with us anyway (MK Dons, Peterborough, Millwall, Leicester etc).

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No chance I'm afraid. By my reckoning we'd need 7 wins & a draw to get to 50 points & safety. We've only won 6 games all season!!

 

I completely agree, 50 point will be enough. I've looked at league tables the last three years and based on current point levels, 50 points looks to be a decent target. Thats 6 wins and a 4 draws or 5 wins and 7 draws from 15.

 

I see us getting wins:

 

at home to Preston

away at Ipswich

home to Derby

away at Blackpool

home to Charlton

home to Burnley

 

And draws:

 

home to Cardiff

home to QPR

home to Palace

away at Forest

away at Watford

 

Defeats:

 

Away at Bristol

Away at B'ham

Away at Wolves

Away at Sheff Wed

 

4 home wins and three draws at home from 7(we have to undefeated at home)

2 away wins and 2 draws from 8 away games.

 

EASY! And I see us maybe springing a surprise at either Wolves or B'ham.

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Weren't Bournemouth virtually mathematically down last season, or the year before, and then won about 6, 7 or 8 games in a row, only to lose (or draw) last game of the season and still end up relegated? If they were that poor to be bottom of the league, and then suddenly turn things around under pressure, perhaps we can too (but stay up)

 

I still voted 'yes we'll be relegated' however. Head over heart and all that. :(

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I completely agree, 50 point will be enough. I've looked at league tables the last three years and based on current point levels, 50 points looks to be a decent target. Thats 6 wins and a 4 draws or 5 wins and 7 draws from 15.

 

I see us getting wins:

 

at home to Preston

away at Ipswich

home to Derby

away at Blackpool

home to Charlton

home to Burnley

 

And draws:

 

home to Cardiff

home to QPR

home to Palace

away at Forest

away at Watford

 

Defeats:

 

Away at Bristol

Away at B'ham

Away at Wolves

Away at Sheff Wed

 

4 home wins and three draws at home from 7(we have to undefeated at home)

2 away wins and 2 draws from 8 away games.

 

EASY! And I see us maybe springing a surprise at either Wolves or B'ham.

 

 

I hope you're right.

 

I just can't see we'd turn round the home form like that. Mind due, in football it often happens that after a really poor sequence like we've had at home you win one and a little run follows. Hopefully.

 

It did feel like we were down last season in early April and we survived.

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Last season I never lost hope this season I feel us and Charlton are doomed we are just to far away from the teams above our goal difference is like another point away from safety our home record is so poor I dont think the team Believe they can win at home.

 

It would take some run to get out of this and I am note sure the team have got the fight for it I hope I am wrong but I think its league 1 here we come.

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I completely agree, 50 point will be enough. I've looked at league tables the last three years and based on current point levels, 50 points looks to be a decent target. Thats 6 wins and a 4 draws or 5 wins and 7 draws from 15.

 

I see us getting wins:

 

at home to Preston

away at Ipswich

home to Derby

away at Blackpool

home to Charlton

home to Burnley

 

And draws:

 

home to Cardiff

home to QPR

home to Palace

away at Forest

away at Watford

 

Defeats:

 

Away at Bristol

Away at B'ham

Away at Wolves

Away at Sheff Wed

 

4 home wins and three draws at home from 7(we have to undefeated at home)

2 away wins and 2 draws from 8 away games.

 

EASY! And I see us maybe springing a surprise at either Wolves or B'ham.

 

There's no way we are only going to lose four more games this season.

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It aggrieves me to say this but IMO the rot is so deep set at the club we have absolutely no chance of turning this around in the remaining games this season despite whatever noble efforts Wotte, his coaches and the players can muster. The salvage and fall-back position must be to take admin on 25th March so we don't start with minus 10 points.

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I have to agree with the majority, I `m afraid we are down, or as good as. We jsut have no home form at all, which from previous relegation threatened seasons we all know you need to stay up. The team seem to have no fight in them, no passion, again qualities you need to stay up, we just have not got what it takes to survive.

 

What`s worse, unless things change before the start of next season, we could be talking about a further decline in S.F.C. this time next year. Things have to get to rock bottom before we start to move up, the question is how far down is rock bottom?

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I think we are down. We needed other teams beside us to falter and I dont think that is the case.

 

I believe managers make a difference in 4-5 games or not at all so Mr Wotte has at most two games left.

 

We will go into adminsitration for certain if we go down.

 

Only when the whole board is gone and the club is no longer a PLC will we move forward

 

I do believe Southampton can support a decent Championship side.

 

Nothing last forever good times or bad.

 

Goodtimes will come again when we have a bright young team and a good young manager and we are pushing for promotion in some league.

 

Question is which league

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I have resigned myself to relegation for a long time now. As the season has progressed, the team has become weaker, but for me, the deciding factor was the home loss to Notts Forest before Christmas. One home win all season is relegation form, and only a miracle would save us now.

 

I'm not too concerned with being in League One. Even with the youngsters, those we keep, I think we'll have a good enough team to ride it out, but what worries me is whether we'll be doing it with a points deduction.

 

I must be mad, but I actually want us to hit rock bottom, so that the only way we can go is up. I just hope that rock bottom occurs in League One and not League Two or worse.

 

If we do get relegated, and it doesn't look too rosy, one small consolation would be seeing Pompey go down too - not for rivallry reasons but because it'll give us something to play for next year in League One, playing against them in the CCC the following year!

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I have resigned myself to relegation for a long time now. As the season has progressed, the team has become weaker, but for me, the deciding factor was the home loss to Notts Forest before Christmas. One home win all season is relegation form, and only a miracle would save us now.

 

I'm not too concerned with being in League One. Even with the youngsters, those we keep, I think we'll have a good enough team to ride it out, but what worries me is whether we'll be doing it with a points deduction.

 

I must be mad, but I actually want us to hit rock bottom, so that the only way we can go is up. I just hope that rock bottom occurs in League One and not League Two or worse.

 

If we do get relegated, and it doesn't look too rosy, one small consolation would be seeing Pompey go down too - not for rivallry reasons but because it'll give us something to play for next year in League One, playing against them in the CCC the following year!

I just want some positives. After five years we have nothing but negatives. It's really depressing.

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We haven`t got a cat`s chance in hell.........we are truly atrocious and its not like we couldn`t see it coming...From the top downwards to a point, we are riddled with rot and until there is a massive clearence , we are unfortunately bombing out of extinsion.........still it`s good to be alive ???????????????????

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i haven't looked at the table for a good 2-3months,tbh......ignorance is bliss n all that.

well, after last tuesday's game i happened to catch a glimpse of it on SSN and was horrified.... we are well n truely screwed, and nothing short of a miracle will help us now........league one, here we come....:(

( and if i hear/read "it'll be good for us to go down, we can rebuild "etc one more time, i'm gonna scream!!.....):mad:

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Nobody thought Pearson is any good before he kept us up. The away form for us is excellent given that you don't count the games were on Sky. That means the team has the ability to do well but just not in any home games at this moment. Once our team wake up at home and keep the away form going, we should be able to avoid relagation.

 

Speak for yourself.

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Last season nearly all the people said that we were definitely down before the Bristol home game. And then nearly all the people said that we were definitely down after the defeat at home to Burnley. But Stern John 's brace kept us in this division in the final game of the season. No one knows what happen in the future. If somebody told you Stern John's two goals would kept your team up before the Bristol home game last season, would be believe it? If I tell you that Saganowski/Surman/Skacel 's hat trick will keep us up in the last game, will you believe it? Most of the Saints fans know the team can bloody do anything. Did you ever think we can win 6-0 away at Wolves, did you ever think we can beat Reading away? Keep on watching all the games until the end of the season, you may notice something that you won't believe before it happens.

I think I can pretty safely say a Stern John brace won't save us this year...

 

You're comparing apples with bananas... different board, different manager, different team (all inferior to last season), different, sorry, NO, spirit. We haven't got a cat in hell's chance under Lowe/Wilde/Wotte. We're ****ed.

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Oddly enough I think escape is possible and I'm not yet convinced the other teams just above us are necessarily going to maintain their lead over us. For example Donny have had an extraordinary run by their standards, but we need more than them to falter.

 

With a bit of luck we could JUST escape but will be last game of the season by a point. On our own form we are down, but there does seem to be a few crappy sides above us who's wheels could fall off.

 

So I might just stick my neck out and vote yes, though that is probably more wishful thinking than anything... I just can't take my eyes off that faint glimmer of light at the end of the tunnel.

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At the start of the season I said we would be relegated. Nothing has changed that opinion. With the squad we assembled we are exactly where I thought we'd be.

 

I have to say some extremely decent football in the earlier part of the season raised my heart but the horrible defats at Coventry and at home to Watford and the recent late surrenders are all typical of relegated sides.

 

With this crop of players no manager would keep us up. They are the worst I have ever seen in 25 years of going to games.

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I completely agree, 50 point will be enough. I've looked at league tables the last three years and based on current point levels, 50 points looks to be a decent target. Thats 6 wins and a 4 draws or 5 wins and 7 draws from 15.

 

I see us getting wins:

 

at home to Preston

away at Ipswich

home to Derby

away at Blackpool

home to Charlton

home to Burnley

 

And draws:

 

home to Cardiff

home to QPR

home to Palace

away at Forest

away at Watford

 

Defeats:

 

Away at Bristol

Away at B'ham

Away at Wolves

Away at Sheff Wed

 

4 home wins and three draws at home from 7(we have to undefeated at home)

2 away wins and 2 draws from 8 away games.

 

EASY! And I see us maybe springing a surprise at either Wolves or B'ham.

 

When are we playing Brum, if its any time soon we will win there, they are woeful, as bad as us. However, other than perhaps Watford and Charlton games I'm not sure I can see a victory elsewhere. Things can change quickly in football though so perhaps we'll not win away as well as not win at home...

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Being negitive and saying we are going down isn't going to help us....lets get behind them!

 

Stop the moaning and self pitty, we are still in it!

 

 

 

I guess if being realistic is negative , then so be it............I have supported saints for over 40 years and even when we were relegated previous ....things were never as sh*te as this.....When you have serious crap going on at the top of a tree ,,,,,where do you think it falls............I guess the numerous demigods we have had trying to steer this ship can be fully endorsed as being complete w*****s........It makes me laugh when you read the 3 top heads that have been ....bull****ting about how the could have made things better........reality says different...... we have no money........we are ****ed......and this has been coming for a few years.......when we failed to replace a number of important players within the squad in our prem days......There are plenty of examples of board disharmony , with usually an end product close to what we are witnessing at the moment......It would be awesome to get out of this mess....are we going to get investment in the present climate..........``pigs still flying``

 

still while theres life there relegation........as night follows day i guess

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Last season nearly all the people said that we were definitely down before the Bristol home game. And then nearly all the people said that we were definitely down after the defeat at home to Burnley. But Stern John 's brace kept us in this division in the final game of the season. No one knows what happen in the future. If somebody told you Stern John's two goals would kept your team up before the Bristol home game last season, would be believe it? If I tell you that Saganowski/Surman/Skacel 's hat trick will keep us up in the last game, will you believe it? Most of the Saints fans know the team can bloody do anything. Did you ever think we can win 6-0 away at Wolves, did you ever think we can beat Reading away? Keep on watching all the games until the end of the season, you may notice something that you won't believe before it happens.

 

Last season we didn't drop into the bottom 3 until April, and in fact we were about 14th at the beginning of February.

 

This season, the picture is so much bleaker. Not only are we already in the bottom 3 in February, we're more than one win adrift of safety.

 

Last season we were always in with a chance due to the points built up in the 1st half of the season. This time we haven't got that luxury, nor do we have a competent manager with relevant experience.

 

Doomed, in other words. :(

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Last season we didn't drop into the bottom 3 until April, and in fact we were about 14th at the beginning of February.

 

This season, the picture is so much bleaker. Not only are we already in the bottom 3 in February, we're more than one win adrift of safety.

 

But couldn't that mean that someone who was in the bottom 3 in February got out of it by April????

 

I think Charlton and Watford in 4 days will be the cruch time.

 

My gut feel is we will always be in with a chance of staying up and everything will de decided on that last day.

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Gotta say I think we're down. Results this season just seem to be going against us. Last minute against Sheffield Utd, Reading and Sheff Wed getting late equalisers at St Mary's, it just reminds me of the relegation season and games against Middlesbrough, Everton, Villa.

 

We're not scoring enough goals to win games and that's what pulls you away from the bottom, not hard-fought draws. Think after Bristol we have 2 home games? If we don't win both of those, I would say that's it.

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Of course we are going down, it is not guesswork just look at the statistics;

 

http://www.football-league.co.uk/page/DivisionalLeagueTable/0,,10794~20087,00.html

 

Taking the games in hand that teams above us have and starkly recognising that we cannot now catch anybody 6 points ahead of us we can only realistically catch Watford, Notts Forest & Norwich.

 

BUT we have to pass two of them!!!!!

 

This just isn't feasible on current relative forms, probably we can only catch Norwich and it's a VERY BIG 'IF', which if it makes anybody happier means we'd be 22nd rather than 23rd at season's end. Whatever we still go down. The odds of staying up must be less than 10% right now and falling.

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Apart from four teams in this league the rest are pretty well below average and Div 1. Saints at the moment are in the latter. However, all we have to do is win three games and we are out of the relegation mire.Can I ask as a humble supporter of some FIFTYTWO years now, that you to be a little bit more positive? Just forget Lowe and his bunch of lackeys and think thus: WE WILL NOT GET RELEGATED.(There you are. Didn't hurt a bit did it?)

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Apart from four teams in this league the rest are pretty well below average and Div 1. Saints at the moment are in the latter. However, all we have to do is win three games and we are out of the relegation mire.Can I ask as a humble supporter of some FIFTYTWO years now, that you to be a little bit more positive? Just forget Lowe and his bunch of lackeys and think thus: WE WILL NOT GET RELEGATED.(There you are. Didn't hurt a bit did it?)

 

We will be relegated, we might not if Lowe stands down and Crouch is able to bring in an English manager..........IMHO.

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We will be relegated, we might not if Lowe stands down and Crouch is able to bring in an English manager..........IMHO.

 

 

 

What is this obsession with an "English Manager" Robbie ?

 

Are you a Little Englander?

 

As I may have pointed out before, the vast majority of the managers doing well in the CCC and premiership aren't English. Ince is English,so was Adams,

they got the sack for being useless f*ckers.

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What is this obsession with an "English Manager" Robbie ?

 

Are you a Little Englander?

 

As I may have pointed out before, the vast majority of the managers doing well in the CCC and premiership aren't English. Ince is English,so was Adams,

they got the sack for being useless f*ckers.

 

Doesnt have to be an English manager to be honest. Its just that the half decent ones who are available are British managers. eg Holloway.

 

ABW

 

Anyone But Wotte.

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