Fitzhugh Fella Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I am getting the impression that Lowe is still picking the team ie not letting the likes of Euell start because it does not fit in with the pre-season boast of going with the youngsters. Has Wotte got a free hand? Is Lowe's pledge to McGoldrick that "he is our centre-forward this season" coming back to haunt him? So many questions but here is a fact - one win in 16 home games - and even against 10 men we still can't muster a point. I could live (just about) with Lowe running this club as long as he kept his nose out of football matters but I cannot stand him dictating who should be eligible for selection and who shouldn't be. As usual with Lowe it is all down to ego, politics and self-justification. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 He shows such a tendancy to experiment I wouldn't be surprised. The man is eccentric and arrogant, it would make sense and be true to form if he is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I am getting the impression that Lowe is still picking the team ie not letting the likes of Euell start because it does not fit in with the pre-season boast of going with the youngsters. Has Wotte got a free hand? Is Lowe's pledge to McGoldrick that "he is our centre-forward this season" coming back to haunt him? So many questions but here is a fact - one win in 16 home games - and even against 10 men we still can't muster a point. I could live (just about) with Lowe running this club as long as he kept his nose out of football matters but I cannot stand him dictating who should be eligible for selection and who shouldn't be. As usual with Lowe it is all down to ego, politics and self-justification. And hes not even turning up anymore to see the fruits of his labour...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I am getting the impression that Lowe is still picking the team ie not letting the likes of Euell start because it does not fit in with the pre-season boast of going with the youngsters. Has Wotte got a free hand? Is Lowe's pledge to McGoldrick that "he is our centre-forward this season" coming back to haunt him? So many questions but here is a fact - one win in 16 home games - and even against 10 men we still can't muster a point. I could live (just about) with Lowe running this club as long as he kept his nose out of football matters but I cannot stand him dictating who should be eligible for selection and who shouldn't be. As usual with Lowe it is all down to ego, politics and self-justification. I think Wotte is just crap Duncan to be honest. But I am confused over Skacel. Surman at Left Back???? Did I hear right on the radio? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I am getting the impression that Lowe is still picking the team ie not letting the likes of Euell start because it does not fit in with the pre-season boast of going with the youngsters. Has Wotte got a free hand? Is Lowe's pledge to McGoldrick that "he is our centre-forward this season" coming back to haunt him? So many questions but here is a fact - one win in 16 home games - and even against 10 men we still can't muster a point. I could live (just about) with Lowe running this club as long as he kept his nose out of football matters but I cannot stand him dictating who should be eligible for selection and who shouldn't be. As usual with Lowe it is all down to ego, politics and self-justification. This sounds more than just a good hunch Duncan....? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 3 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2009 And hes not even turning up anymore to see the fruits of his labour...... FFS he must have been there tonight? No? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Channon's Sideburns Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I am getting the impression that Lowe is still picking the team ie not letting the likes of Euell start because it does not fit in with the pre-season boast of going with the youngsters. Has Wotte got a free hand? Is Lowe's pledge to McGoldrick that "he is our centre-forward this season" coming back to haunt him? So many questions but here is a fact - one win in 16 home games - and even against 10 men we still can't muster a point. I could live (just about) with Lowe running this club as long as he kept his nose out of football matters but I cannot stand him dictating who should be eligible for selection and who shouldn't be. As usual with Lowe it is all down to ego, politics and self-justification. I'm with you on that Dunc, if he had the courage of his convictions then the old tracksuit would be out already...unfortunately this latest 'project' has Lowe stamped all over it...inability to admit errors in judgement, and heading towards three managers in a season again....now when did we last see that happen? Hmmm.... The last Relegation Season...surprise surprise... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 FFS he must have been there tonight? No? Apparently not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I think Wotte is just crap Duncan to be honest. But I am confused over Skacel. Surman at Left Back???? Did I hear right on the radio? He has been hankering for a move all window, probably hasn't given his all in training in that time. Give him a week to prove his commitment at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 He has been hankering for a move all window, probably hasn't given his all in training in that time. Give him a week to prove his commitment at least. How exaclty could he have played worse than those that did ? Moulinex is available again now........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eesti matty Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I think Lowe has always wanted to leave a legacy and be seen as a revolutionary thinker. He is just useless, out of his depth and someone who is incompetent at running a football club and understanding the fans. He never seems to learn from his mistake and I am fearful for our club's future with him at the helm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 How exaclty could he have played worse than those that did ? Moulinex is available again now........ Don't get me wrong, he is better then we have, but what example would it show to immediately pick an undetermined player? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hopkins Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Euell is turd. That is probably the main reason he is not starting. Whoever (Lowe, Wotte) has decided not to start him gets my admiration. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 FFS he must have been there tonight? No? couldn't be sure but didn't see Lowe, Wilde or Cowen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saint_stevo Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 he is a smaller turd than some of our other midfielders! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Don't get me wrong, he is better then we have, but what example would it show to immediately pick an undetermined player? Wotte has picked 3 or 4 in each of his first 3 games. I dont give a shiit anymore about all this "who turns it on in training" crap. We need to play our 11 best players each game and the f**king manager should earn his crust motivating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trousers Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 couldn't be sure but didn't see Lowe, Wilde or Cowen SFC in a nutshell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Wotte has picked 3 or 4 in each of his first 3 games. I dont give a shiit anymore about all this "who turns it on in training" crap. We need to play our 11 best players each game and the f**king manager should earn his crust motivating them. Who else do you feel is equal to stating his transfer wishes in the press in the current squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smithy Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Euell is turd. That is probably the main reason he is not starting. Whoever (Lowe, Wotte) has decided not to start him gets my admiration. Holloway was praising Euell every time they went to the Saints game this evening and said he can't understand why he didn't start the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
charliemiller Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 couldn't be sure but didn't see Lowe, Wilde or Cowen ermmm they were in the same room somehwere and had been all afternoon . Doesnt bode well IMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Who else do you feel is equal to stating his transfer wishes in the press in the current squad? Euell and BWP must be pretty fecked off too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delmary Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 ermmm they were in the same room somehwere and had been all afternoon . Doesnt bode well IMHO????? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 ????? Dont ask. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I wouldn't be at all surprised if Lowe realises the club is going into admin and he's doing his best to **** things up for the fans he despises. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I am getting the impression that Lowe is still picking the team ie not letting the likes of Euell start because it does not fit in with the pre-season boast of going with the youngsters. Has Wotte got a free hand? Is Lowe's pledge to McGoldrick that "he is our centre-forward this season" coming back to haunt him? So many questions but here is a fact - one win in 16 home games - and even against 10 men we still can't muster a point. I could live (just about) with Lowe running this club as long as he kept his nose out of football matters but I cannot stand him dictating who should be eligible for selection and who shouldn't be. As usual with Lowe it is all down to ego, politics and self-justification. after watching that it feels hopeless. Think your theory is probably bit off mate -the damage caused by him is the set up, players available not him picking the team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Euell and BWP must be pretty fecked off too. I don't recall either of them actively saying they wanted out during the transfer window though. Imagining they are f*cked off is one thing, having printed proof quite another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bridge too far Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 ermmm they were in the same room somehwere and had been all afternoon . Doesnt bode well IMHO Dubai Phil dropped a similar hint earlier. Is this a fact? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stthrobber Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I am getting the impression that Lowe is still picking the team ie not letting the likes of Euell start because it does not fit in with the pre-season boast of going with the youngsters. Has Wotte got a free hand? Is Lowe's pledge to McGoldrick that "he is our centre-forward this season" coming back to haunt him? So many questions but here is a fact - one win in 16 home games - and even against 10 men we still can't muster a point. I could live (just about) with Lowe running this club as long as he kept his nose out of football matters but I cannot stand him dictating who should be eligible for selection and who shouldn't be. As usual with Lowe it is all down to ego, politics and self-justification. It's a huge jump from "getting the impression" to accepting you are right then condemning him for sticking his nose in. However, if by "get the impression" you mean that people inside the club are telling you that's what is happening, then it's a different thing. I agree with you that the footballing side of things should be down to those who know about football. I certainly wouldn't want to condemn Wotte for telling Lowe how to run the club financially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I don't recall either of them actively saying they wanted out during the transfer window though. Imagining they are f*cked off is one thing, having printed proof quite another. Who cares mate ? Its a pointless argument. The bottom line for me is that we have not put our strongest team out all season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Who cares mate ? Its a pointless argument. The bottom line for me is that we have not put our strongest team out all season. Fair play (I do care about that point though, I coach myself, even if it is at u15 level, and no way in hell would I immediately reinstate a player who just 48 hours ago wanted shot of us.) With the inconsistency of the squad we have though who is to say who our strongest team is? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
saintstr1 Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I watched the Sky sports commentary on the game tonight given by Ian Holloway,now before you all jump on me and tell me what a c~~k Holloway is it was interesting listening to the views of a experienced championship manager. Firstly he thought we were starting with to many youngster when we had the likes of Euell & BWP on the bench. Secondly he could not believe how when Sheff U went down to 10 men we still carried on playing the same way, his take was that nobody on the saints side was making the team slow down and think about building our attacks , everything was just to gung ho and that didn't appear to be a alternative directions from the bench. He also thought we were a bit unlucky although our finishing could have been better. As I said he was never my favourite manager but oh how we need someone like him instead of this Dutch Cr@p. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alpine_saint Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I watched the Sky sports commentary on the game tonight given by Ian Holloway,now before you all jump on me and tell me what a c~~k Holloway is it was interesting listening to the views of a experienced championship manager. Firstly he thought we were starting with to many youngster when we had the likes of Euell & BWP on the bench. Secondly he could not believe how when Sheff U went down to 10 men we still carried on playing the same way, his take was that nobody on the saints side was making the team slow down and think about building our attacks , everything was just to gung ho and that didn't appear to be a alternative directions from the bench. He also thought we were a bit unlucky although our finishing could have been better. As I said he was never my favourite manager but oh how we need someone like him instead of this Dutch Cr@p. This Dutch craap is a one-trick pony, it seems. It assumes having dominant players that can implement a single system for the course of the game and making the dominant skills pay off. A totally ridiculous concept to transplant to a broke team at the bottom of the CCC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Who cares mate ? Its a pointless argument. The bottom line for me is that we have not put our strongest team out all season. who would it be for you (not including Rasiak/John/Dyer) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 lord duckhunter was there tonight Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 lord duckhunter was there tonight So he had chance to see another failure of his methods. Let the c*nt see the positives in that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NickG Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 you see him? I normally do from my seat but didn't see him tonight -can't say looked much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I am getting the impression that Lowe is still picking the team ie not letting the likes of Euell start because it does not fit in with the pre-season boast of going with the youngsters. Has Wotte got a free hand? Is Lowe's pledge to McGoldrick that "he is our centre-forward this season" coming back to haunt him? So many questions but here is a fact - one win in 16 home games - and even against 10 men we still can't muster a point. I could live (just about) with Lowe running this club as long as he kept his nose out of football matters but I cannot stand him dictating who should be eligible for selection and who shouldn't be. As usual with Lowe it is all down to ego, politics and self-justification. And extra Start money. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I bet Lowe plays the Stevenage reject at Watford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 lord duckhunter was there tonight Anyone know his home address in the Cotswolds so I can send his wife a letter congratulating her on her commonsense suggestion that he didnt take the job on again last summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I could live (just about) with Lowe running this club as long as he kept his nose out of football matters but I cannot stand him dictating who should be eligible for selection and who shouldn't be. As usual with Lowe it is all down to ego, politics and self-justification. It's gone way too far for me Duncan. I hate the thought of that man having any role whatsoever in the club. We have no chance of things getting any better whilst he is still at the helm. It's up to the circling vultures (if there are any, wishful thinking), to make their move now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 3 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2009 And extra Start money. Sorry Andy? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colinjb Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Anyone know his home address in the Cotswolds so I can send his wife a letter congratulating her on her commonsense suggestion that he didnt take the job on again last summer? They say behind every great man is a great woman. The great ones listen to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fitzhugh Fella Posted 3 February, 2009 Author Share Posted 3 February, 2009 It's gone way too far for me Duncan. I hate the thought of that man having any role whatsoever in the club. We have no chance of things getting any better whilst he is still at the helm. It's up to the circling vultures (if there are any, wishful thinking), to make their move now. I think the last vulture got shot a long time ago, mind you Fulthorpe's dog is still on the hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wade Garrett Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I think the last vulture got shot a long time ago, mind you Fulthorpe's dog is still on the hunt. I think Fulthorpe's dog has the hunting instincts of a gerbil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I think we need to get off our arses and find a buyer. If they're not coming to us... lets go to them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raging Bull Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 you see him? I normally do from my seat but didn't see him tonight -can't say looked much yeah i sit directly below his royal backside, his face was a picture when SU scored their second (mind you so did everybodies). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
St Landrew Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 Sorry Andy? I suspect there's start money in the contract of the more expensive players. If you don't play them for 90 minutes you save money, and all they get is an absolute basic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kadeem Hardison Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I'm confused. Either he is controlling everything right down to team selection or he's never at the club and doesn't do his job. Which is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mole Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 I'm confused. Either he is controlling everything right down to team selection or he's never at the club and doesn't do his job. Which is it? Hitler mobilised the Hitler Youth to defend Berlin from his bunker. I would imagine Lowe has a mobile phone and a fax machine at his alpine hideaway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintRobbie Posted 3 February, 2009 Share Posted 3 February, 2009 He has been hankering for a move all window, probably hasn't given his all in training in that time. Give him a week to prove his commitment at least. Colin - I am sure he's professional enough to play... especially when we're in the ****. I hope we see him again soon. In fact I hope we see ALL of our men again soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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