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But they don't have to, do they? This is a forum for opinions, so perfectly reasonable for there to be a diverse spectrum. But it would be a mistake to lump together all those with one viewpoint and dismiss their opinions as being without balance just because they advocate one position and not another. That cuts both ways of course.

 

One must accept that most have arrived at their judgement having already considered the arguments from both sides and made up their own minds where they stand. Even though there is a vast majority who favour one position over another, does not make that position the correct one, although it is at least indicative.

 

However, when the vast majority of dissenters are the paying customers of a business, it matters not whether they are right or wrong. If they cease to support that business by buying its products, the business will cease to exist. The business ignores its paying customers at its peril. That is the crux of the current state of affairs at the club.

 

Could not agree more. Well stated.

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The big disappointment for me was her and Crouch walking out of the AGM without using there democratic vote as shareholders to send a message. We can all rant from the sidelines but when you have the power of the vote, why not use it? Please do not take this is an anti Crouch or Corbett comment. It is purely an observation. I still have a lot of time for both of them.

 

I agree with this. I listened to the Corbett interview, the first time I'd heard her speak at length and was impressed by her obvious commitment to the club and passion over so many years. She also seems like a 'nice' person. Both she and Crouch are clearly fans with probably much more unconditional love for the club than others on the board, but very passionate fans dont often make good stewards. Seemed to me as if the red mist has come down and the blinkers are on.

 

Apart from the Crouch /Corbett / McMenemy and Lowe /Wilde camps most people seem to agree a totally fresh start with someone untainted by the past is the way to go - and that is the one thing that isnt on offer. IMO you cant underestimate just how destructive unsettled politics are to team performance, ability to attract good staff and players and the general 'feelgood factor. Its no coincidence the club has been underperforming for a number of years now while the sniping from the sidelines has been going on.

 

I'd like to see silence from now until the end of the season. In the close season by all means have an almighty power struggle. I dont care who wins, as long as the losers slips away gracefully ends involvement with the politics / ownership battle.

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I agree with this. I listened to the Corbett interview, the first time I'd heard her speak at length and was impressed by her obvious commitment to the club and passion over so many years. She also seems like a 'nice' person. Both she and Crouch are clearly fans with probably much more unconditional love for the club than others on the board, but very passionate fans dont often make good stewards. Seemed to me as if the red mist has come down and the blinkers are on.

 

Apart from the Crouch /Corbett / McMenemy and Lowe /Wilde camps most people seem to agree a totally fresh start with someone untainted by the past is the way to go - and that is the one thing that isnt on offer. IMO you cant underestimate just how destructive unsettled politics are to team performance, ability to attract good staff and players and the general 'feelgood factor. Its no coincidence the club has been underperforming for a number of years now while the sniping from the sidelines has been going on.

 

I'd like to see silence from now until the end of the season. In the close season by all means have an almighty power struggle. I dont care who wins, as long as the losers slips away gracefully ends involvement with the politics / ownership battle.

 

You might want those things, but there is no way that you are going to get them.

 

Firstly, it is not a reasonable expectation that the vast majority of true fans will stand idly by and let the club go down the pan without at least attempting to do something about it. The close season will be too late. We will either be relegated or in receivership or both. There will be no watertight guarantee even that Lowe and Wilde would be gone either.

 

Secondly, it is entirely debateable as to whether boardroom politics affect team performance and ability to attract staff, although naturally it can affect the general feelgood factor, as it has already. The one thing that we need desperately is external investment and it has been rumoured that potential investors have been put off from investing whilst Lowe and Wilde are in charge. In over a decade, Lowe has never attracted anything significant in this direction anyway, so that is no surprise that we are not getting any now.

 

As far as I can see, nobody disagrees that all of the people who have been associated with the club at board level need to have no part in the running of the club, although they are quite entitled to keep their shareholdings if they wish and cannot be forced to relinquish them, except through administration. There are however many who see potential in a halfway house through ridding the club of the really divisive elments of Lowe and Wilde, perhaps having Crouch as chairman for an interim period and appointing a British manager with experience of how to get results in this situation in this division. His chairmanship could be sanctioned on the basis that we advertise for a chairman and chief executive to take over from him, but in the meantime we have a period of unity which is vital in the closing stages of this season if we are to have any hope of staying solvent and staying up.

 

I don't blame any who are campaigning through a boycott for Lowe and Wilde to go. It is their prerogative as paying customers to withdraw their support and keep their own money in their pockets if they so wish. Wouldn't it be ludicrous to blame the customers for not buying the product when of course it is the fault of the people running the company who have produced a sub-standard product not worth the price? It is obvious where the blame lies and as a consequence those responsible should go before they can do any more damage than they already have.

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But they don't have to, do they? This is a forum for opinions, so perfectly reasonable for there to be a diverse spectrum. But it would be a mistake to lump together all those with one viewpoint and dismiss their opinions as being without balance just because they advocate one position and not another. That cuts both ways of course.

 

One must accept that most have arrived at their judgement having already considered the arguments from both sides and made up their own minds where they stand. Even though there is a vast majority who favour one position over another, does not make that position the correct one, although it is at least indicative.

 

However, when the vast majority of dissenters are the paying customers of a business, it matters not whether they are right or wrong. If they cease to support that business by not buying its products, the business will cease to exist. The business ignores its paying customers at its peril. That is the crux of the current state of affairs at the club.

 

I dont think that can be argued with Wes..... but.... (sorry) there is a difference IMHO between standard businesses and football clubs... True if the club through its actions destroys is customer base then it will certainly not survive financially, but a couple of things:

 

Football fans by their very nature have an emotional relationship with the club that gives them a perception of moral ownership, we believe its 'our club' and believe we have the right to demand how 'our' club is run for 'US' - because unlike other businesses who alientate customers , we simply cant go and 'shop' elsewhere - we simply stop shopping altogether.

 

Secondly, there are also many whose emotional involvement is dictated to by success or the glamour of the game itself - eg the customers who only shop when the shop is stocked with the very best product, that unfortunately we cant always stock, due to lines of credit with those suppliers.

 

I dont believe out business sets out to dissapoint these casual shoppers, they are also fans, but perhaps more into the stock than the shop? In football there are many whose loyalty is to teh shop itself, not the stock, not its directors or shop assistants and for these whilst its sad to see the shelfs empty in need sof new and exciting goods, and the the building in need of a refurb, ideally at the instruction of new owners/directors, their loyalty is still there and will alwyas be so - because of the emotional links and its the ONLY shop in town!

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I am not surprised that both Crouch and Corbett walked out, they were obviously not going to get a chance to put their point of view forward...hence the rant by Crouch. It must have been galling for a chairman with less investment in the club than Crouch to shout him down .

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If I could really trust that Crouch would be a short term then fine but http://www.saintsfc.co.uk/news/?page_id=9466

He did not find a plc Chairman as he and Hoos intended. What would be different this time.

 

Ron - there was a stage last season (approx 12 months ago) when it was thought Salz was 99% certain to accept an invitation to become Chairman of the PLC. Why he didn't? He saw the writing on the wall ie the probability Lowe was coming back. It is said by those close to him that he cannot abide the man and would never work with him.

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Ron - there was a stage last season (approx 12 months ago) when it was thought Salz was 99% certain to accept an invitation to become Chairman of the PLC. Why he didn't? He saw the writing on the wall ie the probability Lowe was coming back. It is said by those close to him that he cannot abide the man and would never work with him.
I appreciate he tried Duncan and you know I was fully supportive of those he hoped would step in at the time. It could be said he was let down by others just as Wilde was on the promised (if you believe him which I don't) investment. That was not my point. He failed. What is there to suggest he would succeed this time. Of course IF Lowe sold his interest that might make a difference but I thought all the demands recently was for Lowe to step down, not sell up.

 

I would be 100% behind Salz as Chairman and the others we know were with him at the time in supporting roles. What a board that would have made :)

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Who knows but Mary is. All hindsight is 20/20 and Corbett, Crouch and Trant have it in abundance and a pity they didn't take their roles at the club with a little less myopic foresight. The 3 wise monkeys who are simply out to curry favour but have a plan as fanciful as those of the protesters on Saturday. Is Mary going to lead the whip round? If so expect her to be knocking at your neighbours door asking them to persuade you to make a contribution.

 

It's bad enough listening to Crouch's wounded 'I could have' soldier act so I can't listen to the feed St Andrew has provided but I'm guessing she wasn't exactly subjected to a challenging line of questioning by Dumb and Dumber. Question's like, why speak out now Mary? What did you do with your status whilst at the club Mary? What do you understand by the term due diligence Mary?

 

Mary Corbett is a fan, Leon Crouch is a fan but they have as much right or expertise to run this club than many of the fans on this forum. Crouch's offer of £2m in football terms amounts to no more than the average fan ofering £200 and about as useful and frankly is just an empty and puerile gesture as this club want fail on the lack of £2m or £6m at its disposal but more with its long term outlook and supporter loyalty that is based in the real world. In fact apart from her name being synonymous with the club's history courtesy of her father that does not necessarily bestow the qualities needed to get us out of the mire. IMO her apparent failure in her previous duties makes her an irrelevance to comment on anything related to the club unless we can probe about her part in this sorry mess.

 

All this backbiting and protest it is all so counterproductive because ultimately the unwitting are either providing a platform for individuals petty and personal agendas, Duncan, or actually aideing and abetting the downfall of their own club.

 

Thankfully there is still a lot of middle ground supporters out there, other than 401 full members on this site, who simply want to support the team and willing to back Lowe until an obviously better alternative comes forward. Even on a thread in the lounge today one supporter actually said he still believes the board and the team will meet our survival goal this season but didn't post on the main sight for fear of the abuse. How sad is that? Bullying your own fans for having a different view than your own.

 

The good news is I believe fans like that still far outweigh those intent on protest without any plan beyond get Lowe out. Keep it up because the lack of acknowledgement you are getting from the club shows IMO how resolved they are to focus on turning this around even if it means dropping into League 1 for a season. Not a very savoury prospect but alot more wholesome than the known alternatives.

 

Don't underestimate the resolve this board has and I fully expect it to get worse before it gets better but with the likes of Crouch and Corbett it will simply be a case of ignoring the iceberg and lots of fan friendly rhetoroic.

 

I'm still just a very busy fan and for the record again I am not Lowe, Marland or work in the PR industry. I'm just a realist willing to put up with the abuse in the interest of balance and democracy. Interesting that the person nearest in nailing me so to speak is a fellow realist and certainly not one of the rabid serial abusers in the Lowe out camp who are in danger of proving the existence of the Lunatic Fringe with their idiotic theories on me. Most of you seriously need to focus on the points I raise as oppose to theorising about my identity but perhaps you do that to avoid looking at the reality. I'm just a fan and a ST holder and just as likely to sit next to you as anyone else. In fact I know I do and I listen to his clueless woes with a keen interest letting him set in concrete my own opinions. Yet still we get on and enjoy the games together but if I told him that Lowe is the best man at the moment I would ruin that comaradie and its largely down to pure prejudice in many cases.

 

Before I go, there was some confusion over my post last night when I said I don't give a sh1t. As usual this was taken out of context and I was not for one minute refering to the club but to those who are stupid enough to support the so called marching out protest. Do your thing the team and the truly faithful of us will cope without you the best we can.

 

I would love to join this forum as a full member but refuse to use Paypal so despite my offers of sending Baj a fiver in the post its fallen on deaf ears and they have failed to acknowledged two email requests. Draw your own conclusions.

 

Good night

 

Did anyone actually read that? You've got to laugh at his arrogant persistance!! Not sure why, but he loves the Lowe camp. I have honsetly not read past the opening sentence but I'm guessing and judging Sundance's epiliogue is of this structure:

 

- Deriding any of the caring share holders (Crouch, Corbett, esq.)

 

- Talking about the business and how passionate people don't know how to run a business whereas Rupert DOES (despite historical failures)

 

- A few below the belt jibes at the fans/the good contingent of share holders/the socio-economic groups of Southampton

 

- A healthy dose of emblishment, hyperbole and b*llocks mixed in with some wildly provacative right wind agenda!

 

Any home truths? Oh. I lied, I did read the last line about paying Baj a fiver - protecting your identity eh?! It's not hard to get a friend's account to pay TSF, if you're that scared of being identified. You remind of Mike Wilde! Also, the mods would not share or disclose your information - that's against the data protection act...Although, isn't disclosing personal financial information about players to local press also a breach of this?!

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I would love to join this forum as a full member but refuse to use Paypal so despite my offers of sending Baj a fiver in the post its fallen on deaf ears and they have failed to acknowledged two email requests. Draw your own conclusions.

 

Good night

 

If you want me to organise it for you and for you to retain your identity email me on one of my disposables rontic04-saints@yahoo.co.uk and I will arrange for Steve Grant to upgrade you and I will send you my address where you can post the Fiver.

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If you want me to organise it for you and for you to retain your identity email me on one of my disposables rontic04-saints@yahoo.co.uk and I will arrange for Steve Grant to upgrade you and I will send you my address where you can post the Fiver.

 

What's the bet you don't get the fiver?! Wait for the envelope to arrive before instigating the membership. There's a few spare brown uns laying about.

 

Awaiting the response to your helpful request Ron...

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Who knows but Mary is. All hindsight is 20/20 and Corbett, Crouch and Trant have it in abundance and a pity they didn't take their roles at the club with a little less myopic foresight. The 3 wise monkeys who are simply out to curry favour but have a plan as fanciful as those of the protesters on Saturday. Is Mary going to lead the whip round? If so expect her to be knocking at your neighbours door asking them to persuade you to make a contribution.

 

It's bad enough listening to Crouch's wounded 'I could have' soldier act so I can't listen to the feed St Andrew has provided but I'm guessing she wasn't exactly subjected to a challenging line of questioning by Dumb and Dumber. Question's like, why speak out now Mary? What did you do with your status whilst at the club Mary? What do you understand by the term due diligence Mary?

 

Mary Corbett is a fan, Leon Crouch is a fan but they have as much right or expertise to run this club than many of the fans on this forum. Crouch's offer of £2m in football terms amounts to no more than the average fan ofering £200 and about as useful and frankly is just an empty and puerile gesture as this club want fail on the lack of £2m or £6m at its disposal but more with its long term outlook and supporter loyalty that is based in the real world. In fact apart from her name being synonymous with the club's history courtesy of her father that does not necessarily bestow the qualities needed to get us out of the mire. IMO her apparent failure in her previous duties makes her an irrelevance to comment on anything related to the club unless we can probe about her part in this sorry mess.

 

All this backbiting and protest it is all so counterproductive because ultimately the unwitting are either providing a platform for individuals petty and personal agendas, Duncan, or actually aideing and abetting the downfall of their own club.

 

Thankfully there is still a lot of middle ground supporters out there, other than 401 full members on this site, who simply want to support the team and willing to back Lowe until an obviously better alternative comes forward. Even on a thread in the lounge today one supporter actually said he still believes the board and the team will meet our survival goal this season but didn't post on the main sight for fear of the abuse. How sad is that? Bullying your own fans for having a different view than your own.

 

The good news is I believe fans like that still far outweigh those intent on protest without any plan beyond get Lowe out. Keep it up because the lack of acknowledgement you are getting from the club shows IMO how resolved they are to focus on turning this around even if it means dropping into League 1 for a season. Not a very savoury prospect but alot more wholesome than the known alternatives.

 

Don't underestimate the resolve this board has and I fully expect it to get worse before it gets better but with the likes of Crouch and Corbett it will simply be a case of ignoring the iceberg and lots of fan friendly rhetoroic.

 

I'm still just a very busy fan and for the record again I am not Lowe, Marland or work in the PR industry. I'm just a realist willing to put up with the abuse in the interest of balance and democracy. Interesting that the person nearest in nailing me so to speak is a fellow realist and certainly not one of the rabid serial abusers in the Lowe out camp who are in danger of proving the existence of the Lunatic Fringe with their idiotic theories on me. Most of you seriously need to focus on the points I raise as oppose to theorising about my identity but perhaps you do that to avoid looking at the reality. I'm just a fan and a ST holder and just as likely to sit next to you as anyone else. In fact I know I do and I listen to his clueless woes with a keen interest letting him set in concrete my own opinions. Yet still we get on and enjoy the games together but if I told him that Lowe is the best man at the moment I would ruin that comaradie and its largely down to pure prejudice in many cases.

 

Before I go, there was some confusion over my post last night when I said I don't give a sh1t. As usual this was taken out of context and I was not for one minute refering to the club but to those who are stupid enough to support the so called marching out protest. Do your thing the team and the truly faithful of us will cope without you the best we can.

 

I would love to join this forum as a full member but refuse to use Paypal so despite my offers of sending Baj a fiver in the post its fallen on deaf ears and they have failed to acknowledged two email requests. Draw your own conclusions.

 

Good night

 

 

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Does it really matter who NIneteen is? When everyone else starts posting tehir REAL names on here, then you can demand Nineteen reveal his, until then its totally irrelevent - What the feck is this board turning into anyway - witch hunting those that have the opposite opinion - I thought we had freedom of speech here and that the board rules allowed for anomynity?

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Who knows but Mary is. All hindsight is 20/20 and Corbett, Crouch and Trant have it in abundance and a pity they didn't take their roles at the club with a little less myopic foresight. The 3 wise monkeys who are simply out to curry favour but have a plan as fanciful as those of the protesters on Saturday. Is Mary going to lead the whip round? If so expect her to be knocking at your neighbours door asking them to persuade you to make a contribution.

 

It's bad enough listening to Crouch's wounded 'I could have' soldier act so I can't listen to the feed St Andrew has provided but I'm guessing she wasn't exactly subjected to a challenging line of questioning by Dumb and Dumber. Question's like, why speak out now Mary? What did you do with your status whilst at the club Mary? What do you understand by the term due diligence Mary?

 

Mary Corbett is a fan, Leon Crouch is a fan but they have as much right or expertise to run this club than many of the fans on this forum. Crouch's offer of £2m in football terms amounts to no more than the average fan ofering £200 and about as useful and frankly is just an empty and puerile gesture as this club want fail on the lack of £2m or £6m at its disposal but more with its long term outlook and supporter loyalty that is based in the real world. In fact apart from her name being synonymous with the club's history courtesy of her father that does not necessarily bestow the qualities needed to get us out of the mire. IMO her apparent failure in her previous duties makes her an irrelevance to comment on anything related to the club unless we can probe about her part in this sorry mess.

 

All this backbiting and protest it is all so counterproductive because ultimately the unwitting are either providing a platform for individuals petty and personal agendas, Duncan, or actually aideing and abetting the downfall of their own club.

 

Thankfully there is still a lot of middle ground supporters out there, other than 401 full members on this site, who simply want to support the team and willing to back Lowe until an obviously better alternative comes forward. Even on a thread in the lounge today one supporter actually said he still believes the board and the team will meet our survival goal this season but didn't post on the main sight for fear of the abuse. How sad is that? Bullying your own fans for having a different view than your own.

 

The good news is I believe fans like that still far outweigh those intent on protest without any plan beyond get Lowe out. Keep it up because the lack of acknowledgement you are getting from the club shows IMO how resolved they are to focus on turning this around even if it means dropping into League 1 for a season. Not a very savoury prospect but alot more wholesome than the known alternatives.

 

Don't underestimate the resolve this board has and I fully expect it to get worse before it gets better but with the likes of Crouch and Corbett it will simply be a case of ignoring the iceberg and lots of fan friendly rhetoroic.

 

I'm still just a very busy fan and for the record again I am not Lowe, Marland or work in the PR industry. I'm just a realist willing to put up with the abuse in the interest of balance and democracy. Interesting that the person nearest in nailing me so to speak is a fellow realist and certainly not one of the rabid serial abusers in the Lowe out camp who are in danger of proving the existence of the Lunatic Fringe with their idiotic theories on me. Most of you seriously need to focus on the points I raise as oppose to theorising about my identity but perhaps you do that to avoid looking at the reality. I'm just a fan and a ST holder and just as likely to sit next to you as anyone else. In fact I know I do and I listen to his clueless woes with a keen interest letting him set in concrete my own opinions. Yet still we get on and enjoy the games together but if I told him that Lowe is the best man at the moment I would ruin that comaradie and its largely down to pure prejudice in many cases.

 

Before I go, there was some confusion over my post last night when I said I don't give a sh1t. As usual this was taken out of context and I was not for one minute refering to the club but to those who are stupid enough to support the so called marching out protest. Do your thing the team and the truly faithful of us will cope without you the best we can.

 

I would love to join this forum as a full member but refuse to use Paypal so despite my offers of sending Baj a fiver in the post its fallen on deaf ears and they have failed to acknowledged two email requests. Draw your own conclusions.

 

Good night

 

Rupert, your a joke.

 

Try reading this http://thinkexist.com/quotes/rupert_lowe/ its pathetic just like your ramblings!

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eh? is she on tonight or yesterday? Just listening in to Radio Hampshire and they said she was on yesterday? What gives?

 

 

I just heard that too ! Hope I have not missed it.

 

She did say on the introduction she thought that a buyer will come forward, she mentioned the latest tyre kicker Fulthorpe.

If he does come in eventually, many will give him a hard time for hanging about and not going for the club when he started shouting his mouth off.

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Oh well, here it is:

 

http://uploading.com/files/NW3HG60M/Mary Corbett on Radio Hampshire.mp3.html

 

Underneath all the Pay This, Pay That garbage, is a free download. You'll need patience for about 90 seconds, before you can download 3.52mb. Should only take a few seconds. Dial-up people [i thought of you few] shouldn't take the whole night/day either.

 

Yesterday. Recording here.

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Well she certainly hits every target :smt071:gib:

 

I loved the bit about Rupert reading out the letter "he'd obviously written to himself". :D

 

What was the bit about the Board bringing in 5 players without consulting the bank ? ( Got a bit distracted at that point and there is a lot in there to digest )

 

What chance on old rosey cheeks accepting an opportunity to respond ?

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The one interesting fact that came out was that her father did not donate Jacksons farm, he bought it for them on the basis that the cost was paid back in time, and it was.

 

Ouch, that's one less stick to beat the club with then.

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Bugger - so that means there's unlikely to be a covenant on it, do we think? Or that it's ringfenced in any way?

 

No ring fence. She did say that when eventually it gets planning permission it would be worth £12 millin plus, she thought that once this financial downturn ended it would get planning permission

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Bugger - so that means there's unlikely to be a covenant on it, do we think? Or that it's ringfenced in any way?

 

The Corbett's have no say with regard this piece of land, it is solely an asset of the PLC (although I reckon one of our creditors would have a charge on it!!!!).

 

As far as I was aware John Corbett paid up front for the land, and then effectively sold it to the Club accepting his money (interest free) over a number of years as we could not have afforded to but it up front.

 

I always thought it was originally bought to be either a training ground at some point in the future or even as a potential venue for a new ground.

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The Corbett's have no say with regard this piece of land, it is solely an asset of the PL (although I reckon one of our creditors would have a charge on it!!!!).

 

As far as I was aware John Corbett paid up front for the land, and then effectively sold it to the Club accepting his money (interest free) over a number of years as we could not have afforded to but it up front.

 

I always thought it was originally bought to be either a training ground at some point in the future or even as a potential venue for a new ground.

 

 

You are 100% correct

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The Corbett's have no say with regard this piece of land, it is solely an asset of the PLC (although I reckon one of our creditors would have a charge on it!!!!).

 

As far as I was aware John Corbett paid up front for the land, and then effectively sold it to the Club accepting his money (interest free) over a number of years as we could not have afforded to but it up front.

 

I always thought it was originally bought to be either a training ground at some point in the future or even as a potential venue for a new ground.

 

And, by the same token, any administrator would see that it is sold with the proceeds going into to the creditors' pot?

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I would love to join this forum as a full member but refuse to use Paypal so despite my offers of sending Baj a fiver in the post its fallen on deaf ears and they have failed to acknowledged two email requests. Draw your own conclusions.

 

Good night

 

How did you pay your fiver when you posted as Sundance Beast? I think maybe the mods should just re-activate his old username and be done with it. It's only a poxy message board afterall.

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How did you pay your fiver when you posted as Sundance Beast? I think maybe the mods should just re-activate his old username and be done with it. It's only a poxy message board afterall.

Just to nip this one in the bud ;) SB was never a full member.

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I didnt hear the interview but did catch a snippet, her faith is still in Fulthorpe and Cousins.People snipe at me because i questioned her judgement, lol. They have been sitting on the sidelines and done nothing when they could have acted in december or before so they could have effected things for us earlier.Morph came on and alluded to they were waiting for the experiment to be a total failure before making their move. Well if their motives are so cynical they will be no better either.

Was she asked about her role in the PA saga and whether she flew to a friend who knew him to try and resurrect the deal (as per her nephew) or that she saw him at a wedding (as per her conversation with Duncan)

MC is obviously a lovely person and very well meaning being a fan but she seems too naive to me dealing with that lot of snakes at the top.Is she friends with Askham or Wiseman who also have their part to play in our demise.Read the Richards article that was put up on here the other day and that was a reeal eyeopener to the goings on by many different parties who are honoured to be directors etc

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Does it really matter who NIneteen is? When everyone else starts posting tehir REAL names on here' date=' then you can demand Nineteen reveal his, until then its totally irrelevent - What the feck is this board turning into anyway - witch hunting those that have the opposite opinion - I thought we had freedom of speech here and that the board rules allowed for anomynity?[/quote']

 

I'm not that fussed who he is, I've got more of an issue with people being banned from the site and then simply re-appearing under another name. Kind of defeats the object doesn't it.

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I'm not that fussed who he is, I've got more of an issue with people being banned from the site and then simply re-appearing under another name. Kind of defeats the object doesn't it.
but you have jumped to a conclusion, we have no proof it is the same poster.I dont believe it is him/her. I know its not Flashman as i was on the end of a lot of his posts and Nineteen Canteen is not him.

SB could not hold back from being abusive.

Nineteen to me seems a fan who is pro RL in respect of the way he is trying to keep us out of administration and by being supportive he is immediately castigated.I myself think hisd posts are informing and very intelligent and put many of our posts to shame.

If he was pro LC he would be welcomed as a long lost brother, but as he is saying thngs that many dont like he is cast as a villain.I want him to become a member on here and submit more as he3 engages some good debate.That makes the site healthier in the long term.if we awere all anti Lowes and pro LC's it would be boring as hell.

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